S-FM 225: WIFOM Mafia Q

[SuperJack]

Mechanics :

• Days last 48 hours and Nights last 24 hours, no exception, an early lynch pauses the game until scheduled time.
• Game starts during Night 1 with actions enabled.
• Every day is a forced lynch day and if no lynch, highest voted will be lynched or randomed by ties.
• In order to lynch someone, a player need to be voted by Majority of the players that's alive. (51%)
• Last Wills are not allowed.
• No Action are allowed, and it will be seen as self visiting.
• Suicide is not allowed, you sinner.
• Night Actions are locked when a hour remains.
• Kills made by Joker and Jester is revealed at the start of the day, Lynches are revealed at the end of the day.
• Kills made during night all look identical.
• Kills are made before night actions, with exception of Bomb that is at the end of night.
• The Mafia gains a Factional Night Kill upon the death of the Joker.

Since people don't read the mechanics, lulz

I didnt ask if it was allowed. I asked if it was an option. Durrr >->
I wanted the ability to choose to suicide, but get it denied.

[Gyrlander]

Mechanics :

• Days last 48 hours and Nights last 24 hours, no exception, an early lynch pauses the game until scheduled time.
• Game starts during Night 1 with actions enabled.
• Every day is a forced lynch day and if no lynch, highest voted will be lynched or randomed by ties.
• In order to lynch someone, a player need to be voted by Majority of the players that's alive. (51%)
• Last Wills are not allowed.
• No Action are allowed, and it will be seen as self visiting.
• Suicide is not allowed, you sinner.
• Night Actions are locked when a hour remains.
• Kills made by Joker and Jester is revealed at the start of the day, Lynches are revealed at the end of the day.
• Kills made during night all look identical.
• Kills are made before night actions, with exception of Bomb that is at the end of night.
• The Mafia gains a Factional Night Kill upon the death of the Joker.

Since people don't read the mechanics, lulz

But if I'm not Christian, I can't sin.

[RLVG]

But if I'm not Christian, I can't sin.

Suicide is not allowed, comma, you sinner, which means, comma, that you're a heretic, punctuation.

I didnt ask if it was allowed. I asked if it was an option. Durrr >->
I wanted the ability to choose to suicide, but get it denied.

In real life I suppose, but have a chat with suicidewatch first tho.

[Mesk514]

i think reading someone as town for commenting on feedback or lack of is kind of a bull reason SJ. The host literally said in day op what feedback would be given -.-

[Unknown1234]

I think Gyrlander is Town because I think he caught onto something. TBH I didn't think he was scum anyways.

[SuperJack]

I think mesk is Town because I think she caught onto something. TBH I didn't think she was scum anyways.

[Unknown1234]

You do less than Gyrlander (OOOOOOOOH)

[SuperJack]

You do less than voss (OOOOOOOOH)

[Fury]

I still don't scum read SJ. Haven't been paying much attention to be honest, but that's where I stand. I also disagree on town-reading Gyrlander because of a host question or meta shit like that.

[Unknown1234]

You do less than voss (OOOOOOOOH)

That's not even an insult.

[thedougler]

SuperJack, why did you vote Gyrlander again?

Thedougler, who do you scum-read? Why are you doing the bare minimum and rarely interacting?

TBH I am despondent in the wake of Voss's death. I have no leads. You saw I wanted to kill TBP yesterday because I thought he was agent. Well he's our only confirmed town now. None of my reads mean jack shit anymore because everyone else is gonna play as cit. I think SJ gave great leads d1 that really helped the town at the expense particularly of maf. I have no reason to scum-read him, but if he is scum he's Joker.

Mesk and Gyrlander supposedly visited themselves. Fury visited Gyrlander which is fishy but doesn't mean much by itself. I think it's Gyrlander or Unknown right now. Leaning toward Unknown because he has had a hate boner for me all game, even when I had only one post and said I was gonna read through the thread after my shower, he had already voted me within 20 mins of me replacing Ares.

I am probably wrong and this is a shot in the dark. Sorry if you're town bro. It's not necessarily that I don't town read you. I just town read you less than anyone else.

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-vote Unknown1234

[Unknown1234]

Scum player couldn't be more obvious ^^

[Unknown1234]

Btw SuperJack you voted me wrong.

[Fury]

TBH I am despondent in the wake of Voss's death. I have no leads. You saw I wanted to kill TBP yesterday because I thought he was agent. Well he's our only confirmed town now. None of my reads mean jack shit anymore because everyone else is gonna play as cit. I think SJ gave great leads d1 that really helped the town at the expense particularly of maf. I have no reason to scum-read him, but if he is scum he's Joker.

Mesk and Gyrlander supposedly visited themselves. Fury visited Gyrlander which is fishy but doesn't mean much by itself. I think it's Gyrlander or Unknown right now. Leaning toward Unknown because he has had a hate boner for me all game, even when I had only one post and said I was gonna read through the thread after my shower, he had already voted me within 20 mins of me replacing Ares.

I am probably wrong and this is a shot in the dark. Sorry if you're town bro. It's not necessarily that I don't town read you. I just town read you less than anyone else.

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-vote Unknown1234

How was it fishy to visit? Did you read my post explaining how it would prove me to not be joker? I thought I'd be followed by detective, and I did an action which made detective following me best for town. You thinking it was fishy to act in the best interests of town makes me think you're either not paying much attention or scummy yourself. Considering I don't scum read you, I want to understand you. Please explain how it's fishy? Is it because you don't understand my play?

[Fury]

If you are paying a lot of attention and still act this way, then it confuses me/changes my read.

[SuperJack]

Btw SuperJack you voted me wrong.

-vote Unknown1234

[Unknown1234]

Fury, if you think Jack is Town, read his posts from today and tell me if you understand his perspective on me.

I don't see when I fake my almost confirmation as a joker, because I'm not smart enough to consider things that I wouldn't notice as a joker.

That being said, I wouldn't see myself as mafia either. There's no scum interaction with Alijach/Stealth and I wanted both of them dead for most of the day.

Someone explain to me why I'm scum, because I'm tired of defending myself against no arguments.

[Fury]

Frankly, the majority of arguments and logic used today made me want to kill myself. If you're asking me to re-read that shit pile of posts, then you have to summarize the first 4 chapters of fifty shades of grey for me. I'm not asking for me, I'm asking for a friend.

[Gyrlander]

@SuperJack

Be rational AND DON'T VOTE SJ. SAME FOR YOU, UNKNOWN. PLEASE FOCUS ON OTHER PEOPLE, JESUS.

Like, for example, this slot I don't know nothing about.

-vote Ares

[SuperJack]

@SuperJack

Be rational AND DON'T VOTE SJ. SAME FOR YOU, UNKNOWN. PLEASE FOCUS ON OTHER PEOPLE, JESUS.

Like, for example, this slot I don't know nothing about.

-vote Ares

He isnt in the game. Lol...

[thedougler]

How was it fishy to visit? Did you read my post explaining how it would prove me to not be joker? I thought I'd be followed by detective, and I did an action which made detective following me best for town. You thinking it was fishy to act in the best interests of town makes me think you're either not paying much attention or scummy yourself. Considering I don't scum read you, I want to understand you. Please explain how it's fishy? Is it because you don't understand my play?

You're coming at this from the assumption I thought you were joker, when you could very well be Agent.

[Gyrlander]

He isnt in the game. Lol...

Oops.

-vote The Burning Phoenix

[Unknown1234]

You just voted the Detective moron.

Fury do you know what an ISO is?

[Fury]

You're coming at this from the assumption I thought you were joker, when you could very well be Agent.

Ah, makes sense. But, while I know you missed day 1, if you read my posts I scum read Stealth and was pretty much the only one pressuring him at one point. Also Stealth visited me night 0, so it makes no sense why I'd be mafia. It is true that it is possible that I'm mafia, but it makes no sense.

[Fury]

Yes I know what an ISO is, but I think I've lost brain cells reading some of this. I'll ISO day 1 gladly, but day 2 was a shit fest and day 3 has been literally a steaming pile of shit topped with more shit.

[Fury]

Once again, give me an original synopsis of 50 shades of grey first 4 chapters and I'll ISO day 2/3. I honestly stopped giving a fuck. Blow me.

[Gyrlander]

IS EVERYONE TOWN HERE OR WHAT?

-vote Fury

[Fury]

IS EVERYONE TOWN HERE OR WHAT?

-vote Fury

You really haven't been paying attention, have you? Makes me think we should have lynched Gyrlander instead of 22. Maybe Unknown was right about policy lynching this guy.

[Unknown1234]

No you don't know what an ISO is. You can specifically look at only one persons votes.

[Unknown1234]

Posts*

[Fury]

Well then. I asked earlier how to do that and no one answered. Clearly you didn't care then, but you care now that I'd be focusing someone else?

[Unknown1234]

i told someone before. Don't remember who.

[Fury]

Ok, well how do I do it?

[Unknown1234]

Go to ongoing games, click the number of replies for the WIFOM Mafia Q, then individually click the number of posts that the person has.

[Fury]

Go to ongoing games, click the number of replies for the WIFOM Mafia Q, then individually click the number of posts that the person has.

Ah, I saw this link before in my beginner game. I have class tomorrow morning, so it's too late to do an ISO (fuck this EU time). I'm also playing the mod atm anyway (but you know that ;)

[thedougler]

Putting aside the ISO talk for a moment, why is your vote still on SuperJack, Unknown? Are you prioritizing a lynch on Joker over Mafia?

[Fury]

Yea dougler, I don't like it much either. My reads seem to conflict with the people who speak the most, but they care more so they are heard louder.

[Unknown1234]

Putting aside the ISO talk for a moment, why is your vote still on SuperJack, Unknown? Are you prioritizing a lynch on Joker over Mafia?

I will assume you haven't followed the game closely then. I have stated multiple times that I would lynch you as well, but the reasoning for my vote was following my plan. Recently, I have been wanting to lynch SuperJack because while he is most likely not Mafia, he is probably joker (I guess could be both but w/e). I don't care who we lynch, but imo I would be fine voting either although with one less Detective it gives the joker more wiggle room.

If we lynch the joker, its 5v1 at night following a kill. The mafia then kills leaving us at 4v1 with two miss lynches available. Given we can use associations for mafia and having a more limited pool, I think it would be easier to narrow down mafia after the jokers lynch.

I would lynch mafia as well because the joker would be forced to pull himself together and to target two people. Or, he could try to play it strategically and use WIFOM in order to survive. It could be easier with the Detective being alive and forcing the Joker to wait a night, it is also harder because we have more joker suspects then not. If I'm right on both my lynches, I don't think it matters.

[Unknown1234]

Yea dougler, I don't like it much either. My reads seem to conflict with the people who speak the most, but they care more so they are heard louder.

Tell me your reads now then. I want to hear and will give full attention to it.

[Fury]

Well I still think SJ is town even though his reasoning was questionable at times today. I had a good gut read that he was town day 1 though, so maybe I am being biased by my own gut. Regardless, Gyrlander is tilting me off the face of earth and maybe I'm mentally too focused on him, but he's annoying me. Can anyone show me evidence that he isn't mafia/joker? Every time he's been posting, I just skip it because it's all been worthless. I see people saying he can't be scum? Can someone explain?

[Mesk514]

im pretty confident that if we just follow tbp we should be good. hes confirmed and im mesk so as long as us two are alive town should be fine. so on that note.... tbp, who do you wanna me to vote? screw my town block, fuck the homies. i would like to invite you to chateau mesk and offer you my vote as a symbol of my appreciation for the work you have done for this town. <3

[Gyrlander]

im pretty confident that if we just follow tbp we should be good. hes confirmed and im mesk so as long as us two are alive town should be fine. so on that note.... tbp, who do you wanna me to vote? screw my town block, fuck the homies. i would like to invite you to chateau mesk and offer you my vote as a symbol of my appreciation for the work you have done for this town. <3

What kind of rubbish is this post? You are not in any way confirmed, but there are some people to lynch first. You aren't going to sneak as a confirmed towny, bish. Now, Unknown & SJ, stop voting each other cause none of you are dying and please choose one of the other people.

[Unknown1234]

Why am I lynching Fury over SuperJack? And given you've been practically useless all game what makes you the one who decides the lynch?

[thedougler]

What kind of rubbish is this post? You are not in any way confirmed, but there are some people to lynch first. You aren't going to sneak as a confirmed towny, bish. Now, Unknown & SJ, stop voting each other cause none of you are dying and please choose one of the other people.

Trust me Gyrlander, you don't want to pull attention away from Unknown right now. You will be next up on the chopping block after him.

[Fury]

Gyrlander, why you pushing me so hard?

[Fury]

I feel like I should go with my gut on this one. Unknown scum reads SJ and dougler, but I have a town read on both of them. Regardless, we have 3 hours to decide. I won't be here for EOD, so I'm going to vote very soon.

[Unknown1234]

Trust me Gyrlander, you don't want to pull attention away from Unknown right now. You will be next up on the chopping block after him.

This post is so bad.... like, really bad.

As if Gyrlander not wanting to lynch me makes him somehow, and how he is already lining up two lynches, I wouldn't be surprised if Gyrlander was a miss lynch as well as mine.

Regardless, I don't see why he seems to act as if he has power when he is the most likely candidate to be mafia.

Fury, why do you Town-read either of these people? I think you are way too stubborn to change your reads and won't re-evaluate.

@Mesk514 @The Burning Phoenix where are you guys planning to vote? We don't have all day.

[Unknown1234]

Honestly, just saying this right now but if I'm lynched I will be completely annoyed with Town this game. Not because I'm being lynched, but because nobody has actually explained to me why I'm scum. Or actually listened to my defense or my reads. There is nothing more frustrating when people don't have arguments on me especially when I'm Town. I just sit here and talk to myself essentially.

[Unknown1234]

This is probably the most frustrating game I've played in a long time.

[Gyrlander]

Why am I lynching Fury over SuperJack? And given you've been practically useless all game what makes you the one who decides the lynch?

I propose lynches as I see them the smartest option right now and I don't think I'm the one deciding it so please relax your tits.