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    S-FM 222: Black Flag Nightless (2.0)

    Arrrgh, just when ye think these scallywags are gone, they be coming back once again to steal your booty!

    THEY BEST BE WALKIN' THE PLANK, AN' NO ONE RESTS UNTIL WE FIND THEM.

    Pirates Aboard The Crew (living players):
    1. @Mesk514
    2. @Orpz
    3. @Iced_Monopoly
    4. @Gyrlander
    5. @Titus
    6. @Whad
    7. @MattZed
    8. @yzb25
    9. @SuperJack
    10. @Cryptonic


    Washed up Pirates (dead players):

    There are two types of pirates you scallywags (role list):
    Goon
    Goon
    Goon

    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen


    One of ye land loverrrs will be walking the plank at the end of this timer, now get to it!!

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    DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS



    6 votes to hammer.

    Setup
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: S-FM 222: Black Flag Nightless (2.0)

    Why hello there everyone! Glad to be back at it and back in it with all of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    I shall be back in half an hour. This seems like a good place to start until then.
    -vote Whad
    Hey dude, really hope there are no hard feelings from last game. I remember you were a bit upset. We cool? If this is just RVS and we cool then I LIKE IT.
    I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whad View Post
    Why hello there everyone! Glad to be back at it and back in it with all of you.



    Hey dude, really hope there are no hard feelings from last game. I remember you were a bit upset. We cool? If this is just RVS and we cool then I LIKE IT.
    What do you think about the possibility Ice is trying to push you as scum because he thinks you may prove easy to frame? You've been misunderstood in the past as town I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    What do you think about the possibility Ice is trying to push you as scum because he thinks you may prove easy to frame? You've been misunderstood in the past as town I believe.
    I think that it's too early to tell what Iced's intentions are, but I'll wait to see how he responds to my response to his post.
    I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whad View Post
    I think that it's too early to tell what Iced's intentions are, but I'll wait to see how he responds to my response to his post.
    Do you think they are viewing you from a biased un-cosigning angle?
    Or perhaps upraising needless issues as a form of tradesmen?
    Cryptonic made this sig

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    gotchu fam

    Attachment 28016

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    I have a feeling Whad rolled scum this game. I guess it ultimately comes down to some kind of host read, but I just get the feeling Unknown chose Ice. Soooo

    -vote Iced_Monopoly
    "I think whad rolled scum, so I'm going to vote someone else"
    GENIUS

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    I have a feeling Whad rolled scum this game. I guess it ultimately comes down to some kind of host read, but I just get the feeling Unknown chose Ice. Soooo

    -vote Iced_Monopoly
    Whoops, mistell!

    If anything, host meta would leave me as cit. Unknown doesnt want me to have any fun, and would enjoy seeing my d1 mislynch

    Anyways, I still think Whad is the most appropriate player to be lynching D1. Id vote Gyr, but I hear he's improved, guess we'll see how that pans out.


    Monopoly of the Iced variety

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    If anything, Host Meta would have Unknown make Mesk finally non-Citizen in a game that only has Citizens for Town.
    Which is ironic that Mesk would try to use Host Meta but entirely ignore this fact.

    INTERESTING

    -vote Mesk514

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    If anything, Host Meta would have Unknown make Mesk finally non-Citizen in a game that only has Citizens for Town.
    Which is ironic that Mesk would try to use Host Meta but entirely ignore this fact.

    INTERESTING

    -vote Mesk514
    Seems like a fun concept. Not sure I want to move to it though, I dont think mesk is the type to reveal/slip on D1 if she is scum.


    Monopoly of the Iced variety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Seems like a fun concept. Not sure I want to move to it though, I dont think mesk is the type to reveal/slip on D1 if she is scum.
    Interesting decision to defend Mesk so early into Day 1.
    It is noted

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Whoops, mistell!

    If anything, host meta would leave me as cit. Unknown doesnt want me to have any fun, and would enjoy seeing my d1 mislynch

    Anyways, I still think Whad is the most appropriate player to be lynching D1. Id vote Gyr, but I hear he's improved, guess we'll see how that pans out.
    Dunno. I just felt like, after you got fooled so hard in that first S-FM game, Unknown would give you a chance at redemption. Just a gut feeling though.

    Your reasoning behind the Whad vote seems deliberately short, so I'll let that slide for now. Anyway, you're not voting Gyr because you "hear he's improved"? How does that follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Dunno. I just felt like, after you got fooled so hard in that first S-FM game, Unknown would give you a chance at redemption. Just a gut feeling though.

    Your reasoning behind the Whad vote seems deliberately short, so I'll let that slide for now. Anyway, you're not voting Gyr because you "hear he's improved"? How does that follow?
    Yeah nah, Unknown doesnt like me enough to give me a 'chance'. Also Im not sure I follow your logic, I have played many games between my first S-Fm and this one, what is the correlation?

    Whad easily cracks and reveals himself, so does my current knowledge of gyr, however I hear that hes improved, so its probably less likely he'll do something stupid, like I believe Whad will. Therefore he is the better candidate for a lynch. Pretty simple stuff


    Monopoly of the Iced variety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Yeah nah, Unknown doesnt like me enough to give me a 'chance'. Also Im not sure I follow your logic, I have played many games between my first S-Fm and this one, what is the correlation?

    Whad easily cracks and reveals himself, so does my current knowledge of gyr, however I hear that hes improved, so its probably less likely he'll do something stupid, like I believe Whad will. Therefore he is the better candidate for a lynch. Pretty simple stuff
    Wait wait, I thought that you said that you would vote me for a policy lynch but you heard I was improved. But you actually are not going to vote me because now I may or may not be better at camouflaging my secret mafiareino / piraterino agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Yeah nah, Unknown doesnt like me enough to give me a 'chance'. Also Im not sure I follow your logic, I have played many games between my first S-Fm and this one, what is the correlation?

    Whad easily cracks and reveals himself, so does my current knowledge of gyr, however I hear that hes improved, so its probably less likely he'll do something stupid, like I believe Whad will. Therefore he is the better candidate for a lynch. Pretty simple stuff
    I mean the first Nightless game, not your first game ever lol. I mean, if I made a setup sequel and handpicked rather than RNG'd, I'd take people's last roles into consideration ^^.

    Hmm. How about me? I've only played one more scumgame since Instant Mafia, and I didn't do much better. Why wouldn't you consider prodding me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Whoops, mistell!

    If anything, host meta would leave me as cit. Unknown doesnt want me to have any fun, and would enjoy seeing my d1 mislynch

    Anyways, I still think Whad is the most appropriate player to be lynching D1. Id vote Gyr, but I hear he's improved, guess we'll see how that pans out.
    Town only gets 3 mislynches. It's hugely irresponsible to push policy lynches in a setup like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    If anything, Host Meta would have Unknown make Mesk finally non-Citizen in a game that only has Citizens for Town.
    Which is ironic that Mesk would try to use Host Meta but entirely ignore this fact.

    INTERESTING

    -vote Mesk514
    So far, Mesk seems like town Mesk to me. Just based on the general attitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Yeah nah, Unknown doesnt like me enough to give me a 'chance'. Also Im not sure I follow your logic, I have played many games between my first S-Fm and this one, what is the correlation?

    Whad easily cracks and reveals himself, so does my current knowledge of gyr, however I hear that hes improved, so its probably less likely he'll do something stupid, like I believe Whad will. Therefore he is the better candidate for a lynch. Pretty simple stuff
    Oh if you're actually voting me to try to get a read and not b/c of policy from the last game... then I LIKE IT
    I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.

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    I'm a citizen, confirmed town here!
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    If we're gonna start using host meta, don't you think crypt would be scum?
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    If we're gonna start using host meta, don't you think crypt would be scum?
    If I were to use host meta, I'd assume the host would truly random the roles for their first game.

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    I'm an important Town Power role, Doc on me pls
    I'll be all over you, don't you worry ;)
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Orpz, Crypt, MattZed. GG folks
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    I love it when people vote with Host WIFOM as reasoning.
    You're throwing shade on post #2 of this game for having weak reasoning. You're not even trying to offer another approach. Do you plan to make a few ez points / low-blows, shitpost for a while, collect a few weak town points, then leave like usual?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I'm a citizen, confirmed town here!
    Well, I guess Mesk is cleared then! That should make things easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    If we're gonna start using host meta, don't you think crypt would be scum?
    Not necessarily. Even if Unknown made a point of putting a "pro" on the team, he could have chosen another "pro".

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    You're throwing shade on post #2 of this game for having weak reasoning. You're not even trying to offer another approach. Do you plan to make a few ez points / low-blows, shitpost for a while, collect a few weak town points, then leave like usual?
    If I was mafia, you would die tonight.

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    Re: S-FM 222: Black Flag Nightless (2.0)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    If I was mafia, you would die tonight.
    -vote Gyrlander


    Too unsubtle of a Town claim, tbqh.
    Spoiler : Orpz FM History :

    FM17 - Won, FM18 - Won, FM19 - Won ,FM20 - Loss, FM21 - Won, MVP, FM22 - Host Canceled, FM23 - Won, FM24 - Hosted, FM25 - Won, FM26 - Loss

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    @Cryptonic I'm curious what you think about Gyr's posts at the start.

    Spoiler : Posts in question :
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    I love it when people vote with Host WIFOM as reasoning.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    You're throwing shade on post #2 of this game for having weak reasoning. You're not even trying to offer another approach. Do you plan to make a few ez points / low-blows, shitpost for a while, collect a few weak town points, then leave like usual?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    If I was mafia, you would die tonight.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Are you implying you aren't aware this setup is nightless, even though the setup is called nightless?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    I'm implying that if I was mafia you would die tonight. As that's impossible, I'm passively claiming not being Mafia.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    It looked like you were trying to pretend you don't know mafia don't have a nightkill to look more townie.

    That still seems more plausible than this explanation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    To be honest, I said that but I actually didn't remember this setup was nightless lol. It just sounded great and decided to post it.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    K.


    At first, he said the contradiction regarding nightkills was an attempt to softclaim town. However, he then changed his alibi to simply "I forgot the setup was nightless". Even though:

    1) The setup is called nightless.

    2) He has clearly read the setup, because he's familiar with the lore:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, such a coincidence, I'm one too! It's a little strange because there shoudn't be citizens on a ship but... okey!
    - if he remembers the setup's lore, it makes it EXTREMELY unlikely he'd forget the setup's most important feature - that there's no nightkills.

    Orpz read this as Gyrlander trying too hard to look town, by feigning being unaware of the scum mechanics:

    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    -vote Gyrlander


    Too unsubtle of a Town claim, tbqh.
    What do you think of Gyr's "If I was mafia, you would die tonight", in light of the above context?

    What do you think of Orpz voting Gyr because of it?

    What do you think of Gyr's posts since then, if you have any recollection of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    While I have the chance, I must ask -

    Why the fuck did you call yourself Tit-us? I've probably asked this before, but it really bugs me. If I called myself Pussyces I wouldn't get away with it >.<
    It's my maiden name. I've used it since I was kid around online. It harkens back to Rome I think although I haven't traced it back that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    It's my maiden name. I've used it since I was kid around online. It harkens back to Rome I think although I haven't traced it back that far.
    You're married? Oooh, how long you been married for?

    Yeah I remember looking your name up the first time I saw it and it came up with some Roman Emperor. I thought you might be some kind of history junkie lol.

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