S-FM 220: Empire

[deathworlds]

I'm not convinced. You decided to analyse THAT post of all the things?

Why? Nothing you said warrants that level of analysis.

Anyone can analyze read walls, no one analyzes the little things enough.

[Sino]

Fucking hell, mate.

1. You only have TWO players who you're not willing to lynch...and neither of them are being discussed for the lynch anyway. Keeping your options open, I see.

2. You call that a scum-read? Your reasons are "I didn't like her setup spec" and "she doesn't thread-police Mesk and doesn't share my creepy obsession with her" and "she generates discussion which apparently doesn't help with scum-hunting"

Bitch what. You have got to be fucking kidding me. I'm getting a series of terminal illnesses from this post already and I'm only on the second line.

3. You are so ridiculously biased towards Mesk. It's not even AI. I'm just calling you out on this. Get the fuck over yourself. She's just some random teenager drifting through life, having no impact on anything. Who cares?

4. I don't know what your earlier SJ read was.

5. Why wouldn't scum!yzb do that?

6. Do you actually have any fucking scum-reads? lol. Your reasons for me suck, RLVG can be summed up as anti-town and you have a vendetta against Mesk.

And 2/3 of those are inactive fuckers. The third one only cropped up again after I voted for you.

Try again.

1. So what ?

2. Why would i care about your opinion on my scumreads when you're in there ? Of course it's gonna be bad to you.

3. Yes, i am, but maybe we should move on and keep this discussion for the post game.

4. I had a scumlean on SJ.

5. That just seems careless to me, going in and giving such an easily answered post

6. See 2.

[SilverWolf]

These two players are currently active, and I will not consider lynching them until after the discussion have held.
SilverWolf -
yzb25 -

What does this even mean?

Also, yzb-you never gave your readlist and I expect this to be the first thing you do tomorrow or I'll vote you.
@SuperJack
@yzb25

[ika]

ika-I need to know your read on me because you voted me earlier and said you were paranoid of me but you are also defending me so I need this clarified.

you relaize your the single person that bugs me the most. i got this naggling feeling that your not town but at the same time you post come off as town so im torn on it.

my guts tell me one thing but my brain tells me another basicly

so yes ill defend you over some stuff (like yzb stupis bullshit) but if your run up for a lynch i might not stop it

[ika]

What does this even mean?

Also, yzb-you never gave your readlist and I expect this to be the first thing you do tomorrow or I'll vote you.
@SuperJack
@yzb25

join me now and vote him

[Calix]

i think it was the one game where it was multiball who has porfesser zoom. it had sen and the two scum teams ro seomthing. i know me and silverwolf had a dicssuion about your scum meta after the game and how you appreared more agreeable.

yes i know the game is super outdated and it could be old meta but if you have a more recent scum game that would tell me otherwise feel free to point it out. i know you do play elsewhere, but i dont have time right now to go find another scum game of yorus to see if its relevant.

the big thing i see overall with you as well is this:

if your scum you will be lynched for living too long/killed by neutral
if your town you could easily be shot by the neutral or scum if the neutral gets their wincon
if your neutral you would either get wincon or be lynched for never dying

in a nutshell, if your scum, your going to be outed by surviving too long, as neutral same thing but you could also get wincon. as town you would prob eat a nk at one point or anohter.

Ohhhh.

Well the Neutral currently has the kill so I anticipate that I'll actually live past Night 1 for once. That's unless the Neutral thinks I am Pleb Leader or some shit.

So I disagree with the not-dying thing incriminating me since the way kills work are different. I'm also not going to confirm or deny what my scum meta is. You're going to actually have to read my posts, sorry ;)

Anyone can analyze read walls, no one analyzes the little things enough.

Claims are not one of those things.

1. So what ?

2. Why would i care about your opinion on my scumreads when you're in there ? Of course it's gonna be bad to you.

3. Yes, i am, but maybe we should move on and keep this discussion for the post game.

4. I had a scumlean on SJ.

5. That just seems careless to me, going in and giving such an easily answered post

6. See 2.

1. "So what if I'm willing to lynch almost everyone?"

2. LOL NICE CHANGE IN ATTITUDE FROM EARLIER ONCE I CALLED YOU OUT.

3. You're the one who never shuts the fuck up about her. Maybe YOU should stop bringing it up, especially as an excuse to scum-read me.

6. I make a valid point against you and you use that shit excuse to avoid answering for it. lol nice try, scum.

[SuperJack]

What does this even mean?

Also, yzb-you never gave your readlist and I expect this to be the first thing you do tomorrow or I'll vote you.
@SuperJack
@yzb25

That YZB hadn't posted before, and you and him where in the middle of the Discussion.
So how could I lynch either of you when I barley know you?

[Sino]

1. "So what if I'm willing to lynch almost everyone?"

2. LOL NICE CHANGE IN ATTITUDE FROM EARLIER ONCE I CALLED YOU OUT.

3. You're the one who never shuts the fuck up about her. Maybe YOU should stop bringing it up, especially as an excuse to scum-read me.

6. I make a valid point against you and you use that shit excuse to avoid answering for it. lol nice try, scum.

Yep, isn't it amazing how hypocrisy can work both ways ? ;)

[Unknown1234]

I don't like RLVG and Deathworlds voting together.

[deathworlds]

Claims are not one of those things.

Did you read the same post I did?

Is there any reason you're defending Mesk?

[Calix]

Yep, isn't it amazing how hypocrisy can work both ways ? ;)

I'm glad to see you're waving that white flag around like you're at a football match, my dude.

[Unknown1234]

Town Deathworlds usually shows some sort of affection to me. It's a funny conclusion but could be worth noting. Hmmm...

[Mesk514]

3. You are so ridiculously biased towards Mesk. It's not even AI. I'm just calling you out on this. Get the fuck over yourself. She's just some random teenager drifting through life, having no impact on anything. Who cares?


6. Do you actually have any fucking scum-reads? lol. Your reasons for me suck, RLVG can be summed up as anti-town and you have a vendetta against Mesk.

REKT SINO, YOU JUST GOT REKT
R
E
K
T

REKT BY THE BITCH YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO STICK IT IN

...

you also got rejected

[SilverWolf]

join me now and vote him

Why is he scum outside of his stupid petty crap on me?

I really do want to see his readslist. I can actually read plenty off of that. If he doesn't give it, I'll happily vote him.

Your read on me leaves your options open. I'm not a fan of it. I particularly don't like how you are defending me from those scumreading me but won't stop a lynch on me. That implies you think I'm both town and scum. I can't be both. Pick one.

[Unknown1234]

REKT SINO, YOU JUST GOT REKT
R
E
K
T

REKT BY THE BITCH YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO STICK IT IN

...

you also got rejected

[Calix]

Did you read the same post I did?

Is there any reason you're defending Mesk?

Because I think the claim is townie.

Also all the scummers are voting for Mesk for shit-tier reasons.

[ika]

Ohhhh.

Well the Neutral currently has the kill so I anticipate that I'll actually live past Night 1 for once. That's unless the Neutral thinks I am Pleb Leader or some shit.

So I disagree with the not-dying thing incriminating me since the way kills work are different. I'm also not going to confirm or deny what my scum meta is. You're going to actually have to read my posts, sorry ;)

i dont expect you to confirm it. that would take out the fun of trying to scum hunt you if you live too long

while i doubt you are pleb leader, you could easily be emp who needs to be dead hence why im leaving it to the neutral to kinda sort you for now. if your still around on day 3 or so then i would be concerned

[deathworlds]

I always show affection towards you bb <3

[Unknown1234]

I feel like Matt has completely left today after attacking Jack a ton and becoming a suspect. I don't like it.

[Mesk514]

im howling

Sino got rekt

-vote Sino

[Mesk514]

i'll be on the sino train cause after that roast, calix must be on to something

but never forget, i do think DW is scummy as fuuuuck

[ika]

Why is he scum outside of his stupid petty crap on me?

I really do want to see his readslist. I can actually read plenty off of that. If he doesn't give it, I'll happily vote him.

Your read on me leaves your options open. I'm not a fan of it. I particularly don't like how you are defending me from those scumreading me but won't stop a lynch on me. That implies you think I'm both town and scum. I can't be both. Pick one.

i would think the first reaosn would be enough of itself. or do you forget how many games scums have tried to push a myslynch on you?

i dont really think im leaving my options open with that. i cant fully decide on you becasue i have been working mostly. there are many post that says "oh its town!silver" but then thers post where i go "hmm" so im torn. if i had to put a gun to head read i would call you town.

now what about me?

[SuperJack]

I feel like Matt has completely left today after attacking Jack a ton and becoming a suspect. I don't like it.

Is this a reference to MZ calling me scum for me not being around? Or a real feeling you got?

[Calix]

i dont expect you to confirm it. that would take out the fun of trying to scum hunt you if you live too long

while i doubt you are pleb leader, you could easily be emp who needs to be dead hence why im leaving it to the neutral to kinda sort you for now. if your still around on day 3 or so then i would be concerned

Glad you agree.

I don't mind if you start suspecting me if I'm alive by D3.

It's perfectly understandable as long as you actually have reasons that aren't "you're not dead yet" since I'm not the one with the gun and thus can't answer, lol.

It would suck if I was fear-shot by the Neutral but that wouldn't surprise me either.

It's easier than learning how to read me for everyone here.

[SuperJack]

Thats it DW, ignore that I related todays earlier play to your d2 scum play.

And instead start playing like your earlier d1 town play.

[Unknown1234]

Is this a reference to MZ calling me scum for me not being around? Or a real feeling you got?

I don't like how he said you ran away from pressure and because your train was building, especially when you've actually never had pressure on you.

[Calix]

Hi Kovath!

[deathworlds]

Thats it DW, ignore that I related todays earlier play to your d2 scum play.

And instead start playing like your earlier d1 town play.

Lol what?

Either way I gotta go, I'll be back in a few hours.

[SilverWolf]

i would think the first reaosn would be enough of itself. or do you forget how many games scums have tried to push a myslynch on you?

i dont really think im leaving my options open with that. i cant fully decide on you becasue i have been working mostly. there are many post that says "oh its town!silver" but then thers post where i go "hmm" so im torn. if i had to put a gun to head read i would call you town.

now what about me?

I'm leaning town but I need the rest of your reads besides myself, Calix, and yzb. Any thoughts you can give to the overall gamestate would help. You've been gone a lot and I haven't felt you really dig into the game like I know you can as town.

[Mesk514]

Hi Kovath!

please don't call out for attention from your long lost boyfriend...

[Calix]

yzb is a bad D1 lynch. He hasn't done enough imo. We should give him D2 to spew his alignment and if he continues being shitty then give him the rope.

Sino vs DW all day every day

[Unknown1234]

-vote RLVG

That slot has been forgotten for long enough. Everyone seems to be ignoring him as a possibility.

[ika]

I always show affection towards you bb <3

its cus your both purples right?

[ika]

I'm leaning town but I need the rest of your reads besides myself, Calix, and yzb. Any thoughts you can give to the overall gamestate would help. You've been gone a lot and I haven't felt you really dig into the game like I know you can as town.

well unknwo is still town for reasons said earlier.

death i need to reread

superjack im not convinced is town his posting reads really flat right now

mesk i read as town for her claim and that if what she said is true is trust telling

RLVG i need to reread but msot times i can read him accurately

anyone i miss offhand?

[Sino]

yzb is a bad D1 lynch. He hasn't done enough imo. We should give him D2 to spew his alignment and if he continues being shitty then give him the rope.

Sino vs DW all day every day

Glad i went from Empty vessel to Scummy bastard.

You mentionned earlier my play in Lazy, could you tell me how you felt about it ?

[Unknown1234]

I don't have an issue with the current trains, but the only thing that I am noticing which is annoying me is that he seemed to be an extremely ignored slot for someone who has said some really bizarre comments. Not to mention the suspicious our-of-nowhere town-reads people have given him.

[SilverWolf]

Yeah, the people voting Mesk are sus. I really think she is don't give a shit town.
@Sino -still scumreading ika?

You seem to have a harder scumread on Calix and are pushing here but are not voting her?

[Mesk514]

Let's talk about something serious for a moment

Half of the male population in this community would 10/10 fuck Calix because everyone seems to have a hard on for her intellect. Game after game I've seen dudes dick ride her like she has a 10 inch dick. NOOOOW THAT SHE IS BACK, this would be your prime opportunity to show off to her that you are worthy of her attention. Instead you're all second questioning her and making it seem like she has no common sense whatsoever. I must say, I'm very disappointed with this turn out. WEEKS OF HAVING TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE COMPLAIN ABOUT WHERES QUEEN CALIX and all the sudden she's here and you're treating her like shit. I'd much rather you all go back to riding that dick because it's rather terribly annoying to watch the only moderately smart person here get shat on by a bunch of fkn morons... Step your game up or shut it plzzz

[SilverWolf]

well unknwo is still town for reasons said earlier.

death i need to reread

superjack im not convinced is town his posting reads really flat right now

mesk i read as town for her claim and that if what she said is true is trust telling

RLVG i need to reread but msot times i can read him accurately

anyone i miss offhand?

Mattzed,Sino,secondpassing

[Calix]

Glad i went from Empty vessel to Scummy bastard.

You mentionned earlier my play in Lazy, could you tell me how you felt about it ?

Calmer, more even-handed, more focused on moderating discussion and proposing theories than being blindly aggressive. Didn't lash out at the voters as you're doing here. More open with thoughts.

This is off the top of my head but there's a world of difference.

I don't have an issue with the current trains, but the only thing that I am noticing which is annoying me is that he seemed to be an extremely ignored slot for someone who has said some really bizarre comments. Not to mention the suspicious our-of-nowhere town-reads people have given him.

Good focus for D2 in my opinion unless he turns up against before EOD.

I really do think that one of Sino/ DW should die today though. RLVG's train would be less prepared in comparison to those two (that meaning that there's been less RLVG discussion compared to the former two so he's a worse D1 lynch).

I agree that the town-reads on him are bizarre as fuck though.

[Sino]

Yeah, the people voting Mesk are sus. I really think she is don't give a shit town.
@Sino -still scumreading ika?

You seem to have a harder scumread on Calix and are pushing here but are not voting her?

Unsure about him, he said it himself, he's been mostly interacting with you, but doesn't seem to be willing to change that.

I do scumread Calix, but i'm also realistic, i don't think i'll be getting anywhere if i voted her, i'll wait for ika to post a bit more, he still didn't say anything about me for example, before moving my vote.

[Mesk514]

Yeah, the people voting Mesk are sus. I really think she is don't give a shit town.
@Sino -still scumreading ika?

you're a good host, you've commented on this and seen this before in your own games.

Now lets take a moment to look at my track record shall we?

EVERY GAME THAT I WAS SCUM AND CLAIMED CITIZEN (1 GAME) I WAS LITERALLY FORCED TO CLAIM CITIZEN
EVERY OTHER GAME THAT I'VE CLAIMED FOR NO GOD DAMN REASON IVE EITHER BEEN A TPR OR ACTUALLY LOW AND BEHOLD A FKN CITIZEN

NOW IF YOU CAN ARGUE THAT IM WIFOM THE SHIT OUT OF YOU BUT LETS TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK: WOULD MESK REALLY DRAW ALL THIS ATTENTION TO HER AS SCUM? SERIOUSLY? WOULD SHE? DOES SHE HAVE THE LEGIT SKILLS TO PULL THIS OFF?

FOR SOMEONE WHO IS CONSTANTLY BEING SHAT ON, YOU ALL MUST CLEARLY THINK IM SMART AS FUCK AND CLEARLY CAPABLE OF PULLING THIS SHIT OFF

[Unknown1234]

Mesk is obv scum come on guys.

[Calix]

Let's talk about something serious for a moment

Half of the male population in this community would 10/10 fuck Calix because everyone seems to have a hard on for her intellect. Game after game I've seen dudes dick ride her like she has a 10 inch dick. NOOOOW THAT SHE IS BACK, this would be your prime opportunity to show off to her that you are worthy of her attention. Instead you're all second questioning her and making it seem like she has no common sense whatsoever. I must say, I'm very disappointed with this turn out. WEEKS OF HAVING TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE COMPLAIN ABOUT WHERES QUEEN CALIX and all the sudden she's here and you're treating her like shit. I'd much rather you all go back to riding that dick because it's rather terribly annoying to watch the only moderately smart person here get shat on by a bunch of fkn morons... Step your game up or shut it plzzz

[Calix]

Unsure about him, he said it himself, he's been mostly interacting with you, but doesn't seem to be willing to change that.

I do scumread Calix, but i'm also realistic, i don't think i'll be getting anywhere if i voted her, i'll wait for ika to post a bit more, he still didn't say anything about me for example, before moving my vote.

Translation: I have no legitimate arguments against Calix and I'm fully aware that trying to make it sound like I have one will result in my arse being torn in two with a strap-on.

[Mesk514]

Mesk is obv scum come on guys.

OH NO, THE MORONS HAVE CAUGHT ME

[ika]

Mattzed,Sino,secondpassing

matt i would lynch mostly due to the fact his early plan was full of holes and he still went though with it (or tried to say tio was good when i showed him the obvious falw and he ignores site meta when it comes ot claimed neutrals)

sino is a town read mostly due to the fact hes jsut oblvious and doesnt actualy read anything and seems to jsut OMGUS everything

seocndpassing i would lynch also, while his little iso stuff was nice it doesnt change all the stupid fucking scum shit hes said

[Sino]

Translation: I have no legitimate arguments against Calix and I'm fully aware that trying to make it sound like I have one will result in my arse being torn in two with a strap-on.

Just giving you credit here dear.

Glad you're having fun this game.

[Unknown1234]

Why is Sino more Oblivious than SP?

[Unknown1234]

Calix, Unknown, Mesk scum team FTW.