S-FM 219 : Lazy

[Sino]

So how am I an idiot when I fucking solved this game page 5?

And here I am feeling bad about lynching, and shit. I'm thinking mesk is really fucking scum all because my phone wouldnt let me click the black line.

Had to get out of bed.

I'm a fucking homer, solved game by page 5. And I'm not fucking MVP?

Sino is mvp for tunneling a town member. Go away peasants.

Yeah, so you still don't understand what this game is about.

[PowersThatBe]

Yes you pulled a Homer. You succeeded despite playing like a village idiot all game and making extremely anti town moves.

Wait go look at page 5. Getting rid of you was the best decision I ever did make.

Go back to page 5. Who found both scum? Who? Not you. Who wanted to end the game 10 hours ago, because they knew empathy was scum? Not you.

So...um. Yeah, because it wasn't your way, means I'm stupid? Nahhhhhhhh bruv. Solved game at page 5.

Go back to your salt mine.

[PowersThatBe]

Yeah, so you still don't understand what this game is about.

I know what the game is about. But I fucking had all of the info I needed, apparently at page 5.

I don't care about your site meta. Clearly it's trash. I solved game at page 5. You have nothing. You dragged game along for the scum to be like

"oh we um oh yeah uh."

Nah sorry.

[PowersThatBe]

@Calix I did it again, didn't lynch my scum read, (even though they were at L-1).

[Sino]

Wait go look at page 5. Getting rid of you was the best decision I ever did make.

Go back to page 5. Who found both scum? Who? Not you. Who wanted to end the game 10 hours ago, because they knew empathy was scum? Not you.

So...um. Yeah, because it wasn't your way, means I'm stupid? Nahhhhhhhh bruv. Solved game at page 5.

Go back to your salt mine.

Yeah, ok, you're just proving my point here.

[PowersThatBe]

@Sino

YOU INACCURATELY TUNNELED A TOWN MEMBER SINCE PAGE 1 AND I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT?!!! lol dude, you didn't even objectively look at the game. 10000000% confirmation bias.

We sorted the slots, I formed a town block with people I fucking read as town, and guess what? i WAS RIGHT because I have good instincts and I used them. When I ignored them, I mislynched banana

but I'll still count it as a win b/c I got rid of him. Everyone but him is stupid b/c I don't play how he want's me to.

And Arrow was town HAHAHAHAA bye banana

page 5 is all I'm gonna say from now on. Don't come for me k? thanks.

[PowersThatBe]

Yeah, ok, you're just proving my point here.

You have no point. You never had a point. You came up with bullshit that mesk was scum. Was mesk scum? You have no case. You don't know what you're talking about LOL.

Salty as well. Just listen to me next time, please for the love of god.

[PowersThatBe]

GG empathy, I was never going to vote sino with you sorry, and I was never going to vote mesk either.


@ika @SilverWolf


GG though.

[Mesk514]

GG empathy, I was never going to vote sino with you sorry, and I was never going to vote mesk either.


@ika @SilverWolf


GG though.

...did you really think i was scum?

[Sino]

You have no point. You never had a point. You came up with bullshit that mesk was scum. Was mesk scum? You have no case. You don't know what you're talking about LOL.

Salty as well. Just listen to me next time, please for the love of god.

That's why you got MVP, right ?

[RLVG]

I didnt say quick was.....you were talking about quick hammers. or speed hammers or whatever the hell you were talking about.

Oh I'm sorry, it's just your phrasing on "quick hammers", which isn't what we normally say (and the spacing), and ironically it's a player.

God damnit RLVG you should have let them keep going I would have loved to see it

I was considering it based on this post.

if we get lynch have us flip town for like 12-24 hrs to mind fuck them?

[Mesk514]

That's why you got MVP, right ?

wooooah, sino got game MVP and all the sudden his dick is ten times bigger and the balls have dropped... oh shit he's even got 3 moderately decent girls in bed with him... weoooweooo

[Sino]

I was considering it based on this post.

You have totally done that !

[BananaCucho]

Oh I'm sorry, it's just your phrasing on "quick hammers", which isn't what we normally say (and the spacing), and ironically it's a player.







I was considering it based on this post.

I wanted to see ptb lose it for 12 hours more. You took away pure entertainment value RLVG. Y u do dis

[PowersThatBe]

...did you really think i was scum?

No, if empathy some how rolled town. I probably would have voted with you instead of sino. I was trying to get him to vote our way.

Fucking rlvg with that fake post made me think you were scum. LOL.

TBH, Idk, I would have made you both make a case.

[Mesk514]

TBH, Idk, I would have made you both make a case.

my case would have been the fact that i called sino being a pain in the ass to deal with. you have to be town to think like that.

[RLVG]

I wanted to see ptb lose it for 12 hours more. You took away pure entertainment value RLVG. Y u do dis

I don't want to be labelled "unreliable host", no matter how small it is lol.

[PowersThatBe]

That's why you got MVP, right ?

No one got mvp.

And honestly. I'm sure RLVG was being sarcastic, given how his whole EOD post was a fucking troll shit post.

Tbh, the fact that you so blindly and foolishly tunneled mesk for 20 some odd pages is alarming. The fact that people are complimenting you for your shit play is fascinating. It shows that given the fact that they hate me more, they're willing to pat you on the back for just retardily following failed logic that some how mesk had to be scum. Like it wasn't obvious that empathy was framing them.

You literally focused on her b/c she said she'd vote you. So we reward someone who held onto an OMGUS vote for like 20 pages. I mean that's cool.

I was 100000% sure empathy was scum and I was right. There is nothing else to it.

The only mistake I made this game was MLing the sheriff. That's it.

In a game with a night, I wouldn't have played this way. In MM I changed my play. The problem with people like you and banana and why you make so many errors in your thought processes (i.e. mesk is scum and arrow is town, respectively) is because you are stuck in one mode of playing this game. I am very adaptable. I can change the meta at will and it helps me to move the game along.

I listened to my gut, and my gut did not fail me. Not listening to it failed me with the ebola vote, I admit that.

But it's sad you cant admit that for 20 pages you focused on one person, and I had to lie my ass off and make so many deals just to get you to FINALLY vote the right person.

People tried to traditional scum hunt in MM too, and I found the scum in that game by like page 6 or 10. You keep with the same rigid methods, you're going to keep looking like fools.

MVP is a fake title anyway.

[Sino]

No one got mvp.

And honestly. I'm sure RLVG was being sarcastic, given how his whole EOD post was a fucking troll shit post.

Tbh, the fact that you so blindly and foolishly tunneled mesk for 20 some odd pages is alarming. The fact that people are complimenting you for your shit play is fascinating. It shows that given the fact that they hate me more, they're willing to pat you on the back for just retardily following failed logic that some how mesk had to be scum. Like it wasn't obvious that empathy was framing them.

You literally focused on her b/c she said she'd vote you. So we reward someone who held onto an OMGUS vote for like 20 pages. I mean that's cool.

I was 100000% sure empathy was scum and I was right. There is nothing else to it.

The only mistake I made this game was MLing the sheriff. That's it.

In a game with a night, I wouldn't have played this way. In MM I changed my play. The problem with people like you and banana and why you make so many errors in your thought processes (i.e. mesk is scum and arrow is town, respectively) is because you are stuck in one mode of playing this game. I am very adaptable. I can change the meta at will and it helps me to move the game along.

I listened to my gut, and my gut did not fail me. Not listening to it failed me with the ebola vote, I admit that.

But it's sad you cant admit that for 20 pages you focused on one person, and I had to lie my ass off and make so many deals just to get you to FINALLY vote the right person.

People tried to traditional scum hunt in MM too, and I found the scum in that game by like page 6 or 10. You keep with the same rigid methods, you're going to keep looking like fools.

MVP is a fake title anyway.

Ok, i'm curious to see what the community has to say about this.

[Mesk514]

Ok, i'm curious to see what the community has to say about this.

he's challenged you to a dick measuring contest PTB

[RLVG]

And honestly. I'm sure RLVG was being sarcastic, given how his whole EOD post was a fucking troll shit post.

I was serious, except of the flip and the game ending in a concede lol.
Edit : I ignore the part regarding "tunneling", and was rather having a talk about how a town should play; to discuss, and not to rush things, and let others have a talk.

[PowersThatBe]

Ok, i'm curious to see what the community has to say about this.

Some will agree, some will not. It's the nature of all things.

Objectively looking back on the game. You tunneled mesk for 20 pages. Did you not?

You made up a an 8 point post on why she HAD to be scum. I pointed how that was wrong. And how by your logic I HAD to be the scum over her because I did arguably more scummy things.

But you'll just succumb to your inflated ego.

Go check out page 5. It's a good read.

I read the entire game 3 times or maybe 4 in the end.

I was not blindly going off anything. I looked at every interaction. i PULLED a ton of quotes. I did the most work out of anyone in this game. And my reads were spot on.

I got impatient and wanted to end the game because I knew I solved it. I knew I did, based on every interaction there was absolutely no way empathy was anything other than scum. And you know what's crazy?!

They were scum. But you cant give me credit and banana cant give me credit.

And I get called a village idiot and a homer for solving the game 15 pages ago. You make one mistake and that's all anyone can talk about.

Everyone forgets we lost no discussion time because RLVG added the time we lost from speed hammering. We only sped hammered both cc claims, and I wanted to hammer the only other possible scum read AFTER 30 HOURS.

[Mesk514]

But you'll just succumb to your inflated ego.

it's not inflated PTB, he won MVP! he can do as he wants now

[PowersThatBe]

I was serious, except of the flip and the game ending in a concede lol.
Edit : I ignore the part regarding "tunneling", and was rather having a talk about how a town should play; to discuss, and not to rush things, and let others have a talk.

But your set up isn't a traditional set up, and you were adding time to the day so we weren't losing discussion time. So really, you cant say how town "should" play when this game has no consequence because there is no night. A mislynch is fine because it lowers the available slot, and it gives chance for the final day to be drawn out more.

Which for me I knew I had the right person, but I gave them almost 30 hours to come claim. I thought that was plenty of time before I started really complaining.

I don't think we should say how anyone "should" play because you're really limiting innovation/advanced meta capabilities, especially in a non-traditional set up where host added lost discussion time.

We really only lynched early two cc claims, and one of which was confirmed scum so there was nothing to really discuss.

Discussion is really important for games with a night, because it's the only chance the town has to win because they lose members. Without a night, it's not as big of a deal, because you can use day 3 to launch a discussion about day 1, which is ultimately what happened.

[PowersThatBe]

it's not inflated PTB, he won MVP! he can do as he wants now

Its just hilarious that the kid who focused on his own teammate for 20 pages, and made up the weakest scum read in history is "mvp" but the guy who solved the game at page 5. Played how he wanted to, and ultimately leads the town to victory is "a village idiot." "a stupid simpsons character" "and not logical" because I can use my brain in other ways than "well this is town to do this so I can only do this and not that."

[RLVG]

and you were adding time to the day so we weren't losing discussion time.

No one wants to understand that the Host wants to manage the day/night ends/starts at midnight.
You speed hammer and it's not at the time? I'll have it wait out until Midnight.

Oh what's that, literally everyone PMs the host to just continue the game ASAP.

Since you lynched the other one quickly - I waited until near midnight (I was tired) to continue the game again and ignored more PMs that asked to start the day again.

And everyone in the setup creation complained that there was no nights.
Wtf guys.

[RLVG]

Oh by the way, here's the game time.



Game starts early, at Dec 9th 11:37 PM. (23 minutes extra on day)
Lynch happened Dec 10th, 09:94 PM (almost 24 hours)

Day 2 starts Dec 11th, 08:05 AM. (Early due to majority of game requesting early flip)
Lynch occurs Dec 11th, 09:15 AM. It's just a freaking hour.

Day 3 starts Dec 11th, 11:33 PM. (Again 27 minutes extra)
Lynch occurs Dec 13th, 08:30 AM.

Game concluded an hour later.

[SuperJack]

Have to say that play and attitude reminds me of @PLZLEAVEDUCKK

[Sino]

Have to say that play and attitude reminds me of @PLZLEAVEDUCKK

I'd take Duck a 100 times over PTB and Mesk, lol.

[PowersThatBe]

No one wants to understand that the Host wants to manage the day/night ends/starts at midnight.
You speed hammer and it's not at the time? I'll have it wait out until Midnight.

Oh what's that, literally everyone PMs the host to just continue the game ASAP.

Since you lynched the other one quickly - I waited until near midnight (I was tired) to continue the game again and ignored more PMs that asked to start the day again.

And everyone in the setup creation complained that there was no nights.
Wtf guys.

Personally, I didn't care.

I pm'd you and asked you only clarifying questions about what was going to happen. Every day was a Day 1 again because there was no night actions to analyze. All you had was the previous day. So honestly, we solved this game in under 40 hours into day 3. You didn't even need to add time.

People crying is just people crying.

Make a rule if you don't want people to hammer early.

Post the EOD when you want to.

But don't complain at players that want to play how they want to play.

It was a 6 person nightless game, it wasn't going to be traditional at all. And anyone who treated like a traditional FM doesn't understand FM at it's core. So they can take their fake titles and shove it

[PowersThatBe]

Have to say that play and attitude reminds me of @PLZLEAVEDUCKK

I am much smarter and way less toxic than duck so please don't insult me.

[PowersThatBe]

I'd take Duck a 100 times over PTB and Mesk, lol.

You still cant admit you were wrong. You got nothing right this game.

[Sino]

Oh by the way, here's the game time.



Game starts early, at Dec 9th 11:37 PM. (23 minutes extra on day)
Lynch happened Dec 10th, 09:94 PM (almost 24 hours)

Day 2 starts Dec 11th, 08:05 AM. (Early due to majority of game requesting early flip)
Lynch occurs Dec 11th, 09:15 AM. It's just a freaking hour.

Day 3 starts Dec 11th, 11:33 PM. (Again 27 minutes extra)
Lynch occurs Dec 13th, 08:30 AM.

Game concluded an hour later.

Those people just want to be over as quickly as possible with the game they signed in, they don't want to play the game, they only want to get as many games done as possible in a small time frame.

[Sino]

I am much smarter and way less toxic than duck so please don't insult me.

LOL, Duck might use wrong methods to get things going his way, at least he's using logical arguments.

[PowersThatBe]

Those people just want to be over as quickly as possible with the game they signed in, they don't want to play the game, they only want to get as many games done as possible in a small time frame.

No not true. Some of us actually took the time to read the game 4 times, and made very accurate predictions on what the outcome was going to be. Then they had other stuff they wanted to do with their free time, and didn't see the need to waste precious time talking in circles when it was very clear who was who and what was what.

[SuperJack]

I am much smarter and way less toxic than duck so please don't insult me.

I think you are just a tiny bit politer. Other that that.... Not really.

[PowersThatBe]

LOL, Duck might use wrong methods to get things going his way, at least he's using logical arguments.

Dude, you literally have ZERO logic. You made a case for mesk, and completely ignored everything I did that was way more scummy.

You would have voted mesk with empathy and lost us the game.

I used logic, my guy, and R E A D I N G. To ACCURATELY solve the game.

[Sino]

No not true. Some of us actually took the time to read the game 4 times, and made very accurate predictions on what the outcome was going to be. Then they had other stuff they wanted to do with their free time, and didn't see the need to waste precious time talking in circles when it was very clear who was who and what was what.

Yeah, because we all know the point of mafia is to just get gut reads at the beginning and only following them, regardless of discussion and regardless of what happens through the game, right ?

[BananaCucho]

I am much smarter and way less toxic than duck so please don't insult me.

=)

[PowersThatBe]

I think you are just a tiny bit politer. Other that that.... Not really.

Ok sure. I don't care about your opinion to be honest.

What does comparing me to duck have to do with the game? What does it have to do with what happened in game?

You just always throw shade at me since day 1. Just because we disagree on how to go about things does not mean I'm like duck at all. Yeah, I'm aggressive sure, and that's similar. But I can tell you I'm a lot more intelligent than duck. And I've had a few debates with him.

You just say this shit bc banana is your bff.

[RLVG]

I pm'd you and asked you only clarifying questions about what was going to happen.

PM 1 : "Flip"
"You're going to postpone the flip until the end of 48 hours?"

PM 2 : ""
"Post poning the flip isn't gonna help us because we're not gonna have time to analyze the flip."

PM 3 : "Question"
"Will there be time in between days now? Or is day 2 starting at the end of the count down ? Like are you doing 24 hours after the countdown ends or going start into day 2 ?"

PM 4 : "Day 3"
"Can you do to day 3 what you did with day 2?"



For 1, that implies that the game would have an actual night.
For 2, of course you guys won't have time to analyze if you keep speeding up with lynches lol.
For 3, I originally wanted to wait until midnight or near it, but as said - almost literally all players PM'd me requesting it to be early.
For 4, you're more or less asking me to make the game super early again.

[Sino]

Dude, you literally have ZERO logic. You made a case for mesk, and completely ignored everything I did that was way more scummy.

You would have voted mesk with empathy and lost us the game.

I used logic, my guy, and R E A D I N G. To ACCURATELY solve the game.

There's absolutely 0 logic in townreading Mesk's behavior this game, you only went with guts the entire time.

[PowersThatBe]

=)

Please, I saw some of the stuff he said to you. So, just don't.

[BananaCucho]

=)

[RLVG]

=)

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[PowersThatBe]

PM 1 : "Flip"
"You're going to postpone the flip until the end of 48 hours?"

PM 2 : ""
"Post poning the flip isn't gonna help us because we're not gonna have time to analyze the flip."

PM 3 : "Question"
"Will there be time in between days now? Or is day 2 starting at the end of the count down ? Like are you doing 24 hours after the countdown ends or going start into day 2 ?"

PM 4 : "Day 3"
"Can you do to day 3 what you did with day 2?"



For 1, that implies that the game would have an actual night.
For 2, of course you guys won't have time to analyze if you keep speeding up with lynches lol.
For 3, I originally wanted to wait until midnight or near it, but as said - almost literally all players PM'd me requesting it to be early.
For 4, you're more or less asking me to make the game super early again.

No. You said you wouldn't do it until 48 hour mark. I thought it was stupid because most hosts flip right after the day ends. I was fine with you letting the rest of the 48 hours roll down, I just wanted you to flip before 48 hours.

The second one was clarifying that point, because you said "to give you guys rest." so I thought you were going to post the flip at the 48 hour mark and then open the thread, giving us no time on our own to analyze the flip.

the 3rd pm was asking you if there would a hold on starting day 2, to give us time to analyze the flip.


4th pm, I liked that you didn't wait so I was glad you were just going with it. I liked you were speeding game up and adding discussion time (or so you made it seem at least)

So no I didn't do anything you're implying.

[RLVG]

Also, the whole "nightless" argument...

Each day is 48 hours, which is more than enough. The speed mentality is on you guys, not the host and the setup.
You completely ignored the whole basic of mafia, that is "discussion".

[BananaCucho]

lol @ adding discussion time

You know how you add discussion time? Don't turbo lynch and let people talk

=)

[BananaCucho]

Also, the whole "nightless" argument...

Each day is 48 hours, which is more than enough. The speed mentality is on you guys, not the host and the setup.
You completely ignored the whole basic of mafia, that is "discussion".

^^

[RLVG]

No. You said you wouldn't do it until 48 hour mark. I thought it was stupid because most hosts flip right after the day ends. I was fine with you letting the rest of the 48 hours roll down, I just wanted you to flip before 48 hours.

Hosts flip immediately because it'll be night afterwards.
So if I flipped it and didn't start the game in a nightless until the end of a cycle, isn't that a fucking oxymoron? That's a night.