S-FM 216 Spirits

[PowersThatBe]

In my experience, there was a mix of people that answered my questionnaires, both scum and town.

I'm just saying, the original one, everyone answered in the beginners game. When I did it again 1 person out of 9 (besides me) answered lol. I just don't think they're good indicators.

[deathworlds]

I'm just saying, the original one, everyone answered in the beginners game. When I did it again 1 person out of 9 (besides me) answered lol. I just don't think they're good indicators.

In my opinion, it's how people answer the questionnaires is what piques my interest. Every answer has some degree of thought behind it, being able to analyze that thought is a tool to find scum.

[Empathy17]

When does day 1 end? 12am tonight? Or are days 48 hours?

days are 48 hrs. i am out right now but ill add a counddown when i get back. it will be ending midnight tommorw central

[PowersThatBe]

days are 48 hrs. i am out right now but ill add a counddown when i get back. it will be ending midnight tommorw central

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[Quick]

Elaborate, defend your case.

Actually, I think you are the one who should defend their case. You are grasping at straws. There is nothing alignment indicative about what Stero said without reaching hard core.

[PowersThatBe]

Actually, I think you are the one who should defend their case. You are grasping at straws. There is nothing alignment indicative about what Stero said without reaching hard core.

Oh but, you questioned me pretty hard. Better watch out, you answered the questionnaire and are now defending someone else who did! 2 SCUM by page 13 GG.

[PowersThatBe]

Alright, gotta get dressed for work, I'll be in and out for the next 9 hours or so.

[PowersThatBe]

I'll be back by 12am east.

[Quick]

Oh but, you questioned me pretty hard. Better watch out, you answered the questionnaire and are now defending someone else who did! 2 SCUM by page 13 GG.

The logical fallacies in this post are quite extreme.

[BananaCucho]

Actually, I think you are the one who should defend their case. You are grasping at straws. There is nothing alignment indicative about what Stero said without reaching hard core.

I agree with this post.

[PowersThatBe]

The logical fallacies in this post are quite extreme.

You really don't understand sarcasm...

[deathworlds]

Actually, I think you are the one who should defend their case. You are grasping at straws. There is nothing alignment indicative about what Stero said without reaching hard core.

Very well.

1. What is your timezone?
2. How do you react under pressure?
3. Do you prefer to play as town or mafia?
4. What are you going to be known to do this game?
5. Preferred Pronoun?

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1. Alaska Standard Time.
2. No comment.
3. I prefer being neutral roles. I want to be motivated by self interest, rather than a whole group's goal (IE: Lynch all scum, lynch/kill all town).
4. Getting wrongly lynched for saying 1 word wrong.
5. Whatever you want me to be.

Attempting to hide information, trying to make it so that we cannot check for inconsistencies when he is pressured.

States that he has little interest in working with a group, he would most likely prefer working in a small group, but does not want to strictly say he enjoys playing group scum.

Already attempting to appeal to emotion, hopefully reducing his chances of being randomly targeted.

Trying to appease everyone, this is a classic scum tell.

Everyone reacts differently under pressure, no one will be able to accurately predict how they will react under pressure 100% of the time. If he were to post how he reacts under pressure, and reacted a different way, then that would be an inconsistency. In the latest M-FM, some people in my universe agreed that inconstancy is a scum tell (myself included). He is worried about being lynched, town should not be as worried of being lynched because their odds of winning do not significantly decrease.

This is a somewhat moot point upon further analysis. In my opinion, he could of been thinking carefully about his response here, but there is nothing alignment indicative about this point.

This is a very important point, not only does he clearly show visible concern about being lynched, he is using an appeal to emotion. By attempting to make us feel bad for him, or laugh about it, it's distracting from analyzing the post further. It's a subconscious attempt to drive attention to this answer.

This is also an important point, he's trying to appear friendly to everyone, especially the survey creator, PTB. By appearing friendly, he is creating an emotional bond to other players, reducing the chance that we push him for a lynch, this will not work.

[Quick]

Very well.





Everyone reacts differently under pressure, no one will be able to accurately predict how they will react under pressure 100% of the time. If he were to post how he reacts under pressure, and reacted a different way, then that would be an inconsistency. In the latest M-FM, some people in my universe agreed that inconstancy is a scum tell (myself included). He is worried about being lynched, town should not be as worried of being lynched because their odds of winning do not significantly decrease.

This is a somewhat moot point upon further analysis. In my opinion, he could of been thinking carefully about his response here, but there is nothing alignment indicative about this point.

This is a very important point, not only does he clearly show visible concern about being lynched, he is using an appeal to emotion. By attempting to make us feel bad for him, or laugh about it, it's distracting from analyzing the post further. It's a subconscious attempt to drive attention to this answer.

This is also an important point, he's trying to appear friendly to everyone, especially the survey creator, PTB. By appearing friendly, he is creating an emotional bond to other players, reducing the chance that we push him for a lynch, this will not work.

This is just one perspective. I could just as well show how what he said is Townie and that is why his answers are NAI.

[deathworlds]

This is just one perspective. I could just as well show how what he said is Townie and that is why his answers are NAI.

Then do it.

[Quick]

You really don't understand sarcasm...

No, I get that you are being sarcastic, but the assertions that you are making are highly erroneous.

[Quick]

Then do it.

I don't feel the need to defend him, only to point out the lack of logic in you attack on him.

[deathworlds]

I don't feel the need to defend him, only to point out the lack of logic in you attack on him.

"Lack of logic"

It's about viewing it from his perspective.

[deathworlds]

Welcome back @Stereo

Your response?

[PowersThatBe]

No, I get that you are being sarcastic, but the assertions that you are making are highly erroneous.

They weren't real assertions as I was being sarcastic.

[Stereo]

Making post, gimme a moment.

[Quick]

They weren't real assertions as I was being sarcastic.

Than what is the point to saying it other than just discrediting me (which would be done with no basis at all)?

[PowersThatBe]

Than what is the point to saying it other than just discrediting me (which would be done with no basis at all)?

If you can't figure it out, I can't help you lol.

[Quick]

"Lack of logic"

It's about viewing it from his perspective.

Right, and I'm saying that is not possible with the given info. He could have given any/all of those answers at Town or Scum. To attack him only considering one perspective is bias.

[Quick]

If you can't figure it out, I can't help you lol.

Well, you could explain your position better.

[deathworlds]

Right, and I'm saying that is not possible with the given info. He could have given any/all of those answers at Town or Scum. To attack him only considering one perspective is bias.

Is it truly a bias when I'm attempting to view it from his perspective?

[Unknown1234]

Ugh, brutal loss today to one of the best teams.

-disappointed-

[deathworlds]

Ugh, brutal loss today to one of the best teams.

-disappointed-

American Football?

[deathworlds]

American Football?

Nevermind, its important to address the game.

[Unknown1234]

Lol why would it be American first of all?

[Quick]

Is it truly a bias when I'm attempting to view it from his perspective?

You don't have enough info to know if you are viewing it from his perspective or not.

[deathworlds]

You don't have enough info to know if you are viewing it from his perspective or not.

And who are you to dictate that?

[deathworlds]

Lol why would it be American first of all?

Idk, there was a game just on.

[PowersThatBe]

Well, you could explain your position better.

Google sarcasm, read definition then read my statement -- apply definition

[Quick]

And who are you to dictate that?

I prolly have more experience playing forum mafia than anyone else in this game.

[Unknown1234]

This is literally the dumbest thing I've heard. Honestly, I'd expect to see people asking questions and scum-hunting, but instead I've seen you people arguing the entire time.

Is FM Mafia, or FM Toxicity?

[Quick]

Google sarcasm, read definition then read my statement -- apply definition

Right, but you are asserting that I am making claims that I am not sarcasm or not. If you are simply being sarcastic without any assertions, then the only reason for doing so is to discredit me. Why would you need to do that?

[deathworlds]

I prolly have more experience playing forum mafia than anyone else in this game.

"whoah we got a badass over here"

My points will stand until a better alternative comes up, reminder that we have mandatory lynch.

[deathworlds]

This is literally the dumbest thing I've heard. Honestly, I'd expect to see people asking questions and scum-hunting, but instead I've seen you people arguing the entire time.

Is FM Mafia, or FM Toxicity?

People argue all the time.

What do you think of my analysis of stereo?
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post651999

[PowersThatBe]

Right, but you are asserting that I am making claims that I am not sarcasm or not. If you are simply being sarcastic without any assertions, then the only reason for doing so is to discredit me. Why would you need to do that?

Officially dumbest person here.

[deathworlds]

@Empathy17

Does the Miller rolecard show up upon death? I'm not sure if this was clarified.

[Quick]

@Empathy17

Does the Miller rolecard show up upon death? I'm not sure if this was clarified.

I already asked this, it doesn't. At death, it will show they are Town.

[Quick]

Officially dumbest person here.

Why? How could you know that? Do you know the IQ of every person in this game? I bet I am not the dumbest person in this game.

[deathworlds]

I already asked this, it doesn't. At death, it will show they are Town.

No I mean does it show as the actual role, or Tribesman/Local Citizen.

[Quick]

No I mean does it show as the actual role, or Tribesman/Local Citizen.

Tribesman/Local citizen is their actual role.

[deathworlds]

Tribesman/Local citizen is their actual role.

Spirit (Miller)
Receives Tribesman/Local Citizen role card
When killed last will become enables (does not apply to PR)
Wins tie with Spirit Wolfs

Tribesman/Local Citizen
You have the power of voting

These are two very different roles, I am asking which one the Miller shows up as when it dies.

[Stereo]

Attempting to hide information, trying to make it so that we cannot check for inconsistencies when he is pressured.

I haven't played enough Forum Mafia to be able to give accurate information in this regard. I'd rather not give an answer, than give an answer that is not wholly true.

States that he has little interest in working with a group, he would most likely prefer working in a small group, but does not want to strictly say he enjoys playing group scum.

I will bite. I do not enjoy playing in groups of scum, as I feel limited in what I can do. Certain options are red lined, and if I go to far to look like town, I shoot myself in the foot.

Already attempting to appeal to emotion, hopefully reducing his chances of being randomly targeted.

If you can convince everyone to lynch me today

Trying to appease everyone, this is a classic scum tell.

Am I being trolled right now? Do you not know what sarcasm is? Should I have ended it with "baby"?

People can scum slip in their first post. The teal portion is mostly a somewhat neutral comment (could be made by other alignment), but I think he thought a lot before he made that response.

Between PTB's first post, and my post, there was a 15 minute gap. 8 of those minutes I was not paying attention to the thread, and only had it open to remind myself to post.

Everyone reacts differently under pressure, no one will be able to accurately predict how they will react under pressure 100% of the time. If he were to post how he reacts under pressure, and reacted a different way, then that would be an inconsistency. In the latest M-FM, some people in my universe agreed that inconstancy is a scum tell (myself included). He is worried about being lynched, town should not be as worried of being lynched because their odds of winning do not significantly decrease.

Would you rather a townie give you false information, or give you truthful information? I cannot provide accurate information in regard to how I perform under pressure, both as a scum or townie. It is something I will have to work on as I play more games of Forum Mafia. Providing accurate information is my primary concern when answering questions, or information most closely in line with my opinion on current affairs.

This is a somewhat moot point upon further analysis. In my opinion, he could of been thinking carefully about his response here, but there is nothing alignment indicative about this point.

How much time do you think I spent making this post, disregarding the fact that when I made it, the day had only been live for 15 minutes? In particular, this statement.

This is a very important point, not only does he clearly show visible concern about being lynched, he is using an appeal to emotion. By attempting to make us feel bad for him, or laugh about it, it's distracting from analyzing the post further. It's a subconscious attempt to drive attention to this answer.

How would your opinion on this statement have changed if I had said, "No comment"?

This is also an important point, he's trying to appear friendly to everyone, especially the survey creator, PTB. By appearing friendly, he is creating an emotional bond to other players, reducing the chance that we push him for a lynch, this will not work.

I don't give a shit what people think of me, or how they refer to me. What I do give a shit about is you preparing to shoot yourself in the foot by pushing a lynch that at the end of the day will leave the town with no information to follow up on, save yourself.

I don't think you are scum, because going off of that one post is so utterly retarded to me that I couldn't think of any logical reason to pursue it unless you were looking for something wrong.

[Stereo]

In complete thought completed

Already attempting to appeal to emotion, hopefully reducing his chances of being randomly targeted.

If you can convince everyone to lynch me today based off of this alone you will look like a total dumbass later.

[deathworlds]

I haven't played enough Forum Mafia to be able to give accurate information in this regard. I'd rather not give an answer, than give an answer that is not wholly true.


I will bite. I do not enjoy playing in groups of scum, as I feel limited in what I can do. Certain options are red lined, and if I go to far to look like town, I shoot myself in the foot.


If you can convince everyone to lynch me today


Am I being trolled right now? Do you not know what sarcasm is? Should I have ended it with "baby"?



Between PTB's first post, and my post, there was a 15 minute gap. 8 of those minutes I was not paying attention to the thread, and only had it open to remind myself to post.


Would you rather a townie give you false information, or give you truthful information? I cannot provide accurate information in regard to how I perform under pressure, both as a scum or townie. It is something I will have to work on as I play more games of Forum Mafia. Providing accurate information is my primary concern when answering questions, or information most closely in line with my opinion on current affairs.


How much time do you think I spent making this post, disregarding the fact that when I made it, the day had only been live for 15 minutes? In particular, this statement.


How would your opinion on this statement have changed if I had said, "No comment"?


I don't give a shit what people think of me, or how they refer to me. What I do give a shit about is you preparing to shoot yourself in the foot by pushing a lynch that at the end of the day will leave the town with no information to follow up on, save yourself.

I don't think you are scum, because going off of that one post is so utterly retarded to me that I couldn't think of any logical reason to pursue it unless you were looking for something wrong.

That's what Calix said when I pushed her for one word, and she turned out to be neutral.

[Gyrlander]

Okey you posted way too much

[Gyrlander]

I'm honesly town