S-FM 209: Surreptitious: The Game of Spies

[Never Unlucky]

While that's less helpful to the town than the possibility of 4 confirmed townies, I wouldn't go as far as to call "having a 40% chance of mafia being lynched D1 and making all groups 1:1:1" an incentive for the scum. The reason it's not enough to make me change my stance is because I can't think of a game-based reason for scum to want G3.

Like maybe they think their G3 scum player is fucking amazing but given that none of the G3 players get anywhere close to that, I'm just going to assume that isn't the case now.

zzz

[Unknown1234]

Does Unknown interact with NU prior to the claim?

I said I thought it was a TvT before JTL cc'd his claim. I've only posted like, 3 times.

[Unknown1234]

Hey Unknown. Interact with NU please.

What...?

[Unknown1234]

-vote Never Unlucky

[Never Unlucky]

-vote Never Unlucky

On what grounds?

[Unknown1234]

On what grounds?

You are confirmed scum. I don't know if this is some sort of trick to frame me, but there's no reason to question only my vote.

[JealousTL]

On what grounds?

Hahahahhahaha

[Titus]

Coffee grounds. Those are the grounds upon which we vote.

[Calix]

zzz

Looks like I was right about something.

[vote]Never Unlucky

You are confirmed scum. I don't know if this is some sort of trick to frame me, but there's no reason to question only my vote.

Ew what the fuck? Who even votes this early?

It's obvious that NU's getting lynched. Voting does nothing.

[secondpassing]

I said I thought it was a TvT before JTL cc'd his claim. I've only posted like, 3 times.

Hey Unknown are you caught up? Don't you have any thoughts? We are trying to catch the other scum.

Can you help us find them? If so, who do you think it is?

[Gingerape]

Awww. I just got caught up.
I feel soo bad for Never Unlucky ;~; I guess this time he got Unlucky.
-faint applause is heard-
So am I a town now? ^^

[JealousTL]

Coffee grounds. Those are the grounds upon which we vote.

This reminds me of a similar situation that played out on Battle.net between one of TL's trolly admins in a 3v3 Starcraft game. It went like this:

intrigue set latency to extra high.
Ace-G set latency to low.
Hot_Bid set latency to extra high.
0:21 - Hot_Bid: extra high = more skill
0:36 - Ace-G: on what basis?
0:42 - Hot_Bid: on 4 bases, home run
0:53 - Ace-G: damn can't win that argument

Cracks me up every time I remember it.

[Kovath]

Unknown's vote on Never Unlucky suggests to me that he's scum rather than dumb being oblivious.

Unknown is really not that dumb or quick to vote on a day in which we literally have a confirmed scum and SHOULD NEVER QUICKHAMMER I SWEAR TO GOD DO NOT DO THAT LOL

[Kovath]

Unknown's vote on Never Unlucky suggests to me that he's scum rather than dumb being oblivious.

Unknown is really not that dumb or quick to vote on a day in which we literally have a confirmed scum and SHOULD NEVER QUICKHAMMER I SWEAR TO GOD DO NOT DO THAT LOL

change the "dumb" in the first line to -> "town who hasn't caught up"

[Never Unlucky]

Unknown's vote on Never Unlucky suggests to me that he's scum rather than dumb being oblivious.

Unknown is really not that dumb or quick to vote on a day in which we literally have a confirmed scum and SHOULD NEVER QUICKHAMMER I SWEAR TO GOD DO NOT DO THAT LOL

If I beat you in a chess game, would you accept being lynched in my place? I suck and have 1250 elo I think.

[Klingoncelt]

Ok, with people dropping it's rather important to be a little more direct.

Someone in me/duck/yuki/second passing is a lookout that saw NU kill RLVG.

More like someone in you/Duck/Yuki/Second Passing is Scum that killed RLVG.

[Never Unlucky]

More like someone in you/Duck/Yuki/Second Passing is Scum that killed RLVG.

[Kovath]

If I beat you in a chess game, would you accept being lynched in my place? I suck and have 1250 elo I think.

...Ummm...

I think that accepting that challenge might be playing against my win condition though :P

[secondpassing]

If I beat you in a chess game, would you accept being lynched in my place? I suck and have 1250 elo I think.

We should totally play. I have like the same elo.

[Unknown1234]

Unknown's vote on Never Unlucky suggests to me that he's scum rather than dumb being oblivious.

Unknown is really not that dumb or quick to vote on a day in which we literally have a confirmed scum and SHOULD NEVER QUICKHAMMER I SWEAR TO GOD DO NOT DO THAT LOL

It's the second vote and we need 4 more, I'm not really going to worry about 4 quick votes on a scum.

[Never Unlucky]

We should totally play. I have like the same elo.

You're in group 2 :/

Also, I just realised that I slaughtered RLVG, one of the two fathers of Forum Chess. I do not know how to make a board with pieces.

[JealousTL]

It's the second vote and we need 4 more, I'm not really going to worry about 4 quick votes on a scum.

o_O While it is true that if 4 people vote for NU right now they would probably draw unnecessary suspicion to themselves, it only takes one or two more townies to vote as you did and dilute the mix. NU can vote for himself too.

[JealousTL]

Fuck I'm dumb, erase the "NU can vote for himself too." Thing.

[Never Unlucky]

Fuck I'm dumb, erase the "NU can vote for himself too." Thing.

For the record, even if I was allowed to vote, I wouldn't be able to vote for myself. The vote just wouldn't register.

[Klingoncelt]

It's simple, we blame him for RLVG death, then we lynch him. Then we boil him, cook him, eat him. Ohhhhhhhh......yessssssss..........

Okay, that's funny. lol

[Never Unlucky]

Jealous, you should /sign to Calix's upcoming game. ^^

[secondpassing]

You're in group 2 :/

Also, I just realised that I slaughtered RLVG, one of the two fathers of Forum Chess. I do not know how to make a board with pieces.

Yeah me neither. I never even learned to move the pieces.
You say you're awesome at the mod, what's your win rate?

[Never Unlucky]

Yeah me neither. I never even learned to move the pieces.
You say you're awesome at the mod, what's your win rate?

I don't remember saying I am awesome :c

~80%

[secondpassing]

I don't remember saying I am awesome :c

~80%

Oh crap. How many games is that out of btw?
To put this in perspective, I've only a 60% win.
@Quick you didnt answer my quicktopic question.

[Never Unlucky]

700+

[JealousTL]

Jealous, you should /sign to Calix's upcoming game. ^^

I'm not sure that's a good idea, haha ;-;

[Klingoncelt]

Well.

I'm all caught up now.

So I was wrong about Titus.

This means I have to totally re-read everyone.

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry, Titus, I really did think you were Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't know if I'll be back here in time for deadline, so I'll come back later tonight and vote for NU.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

-vote yukitaka oni

told you guys he was scum.

[Yukitaka Oni]

I read the setup thread again, and suicide doesn't seem to be prohibited.

Honestly, Jealous, you're a cool dude. I enjoyed reading your posts though your typing style makes you look like you have a pencil stuck in the butt. I would like to see you play in future games on this site where I (hopefully) don't act like a complete idiot.

Also, what is you first language? Russian?

Da

[Yukitaka Oni]

More like someone in you/Duck/Yuki/Second Passing is Scum that killed RLVG.

You done fked up now.....

[Yukitaka Oni]

-vote yukitaka oni

told you guys he was scum.

.....claim other people is scum
Vote me
Not sure if retard on purpose or trying to save Never unlucky.
I will handle this question to Calix to make you answer to Calix instead.

[Klingoncelt]

-vote Never Unlucky

I have a headache and a nosebleed, I'm going to sleep now.

[Yukitaka Oni]

-vote Never Unlucky

I have a headache and a nosebleed, I'm going to sleep now.

Be safe ok? This year we already lost some respected mod

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

.....claim other people is scum
Vote me
Not sure if retard on purpose or trying to save Never unlucky.
I will handle this question to Calix to make you answer to Calix instead.

After how hard I fought for you all game you doubt me!! No faith YUKI NO FAITH.

Scum want the day to end, just voting you for fun. ( or am I !!)

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

-vote Never Unlucky

I have a headache and a nosebleed, I'm going to sleep now.

You should learn to cherish these things, you won't have a head after it is wrapped around a noose.

[Yukitaka Oni]

After how hard I fought for you all game you doubt me!! No faith YUKI NO FAITH.

Scum want the day to end, just voting you for fun. ( or am I !!)

v)o.o)> oh ok. I take that back

[Quick]

End of DP: II paused while I search for a replacement for @SuperJack .

[Calix]

More like someone in you/Duck/Yuki/Second Passing is Scum that killed RLVG.

It's the second vote and we need 4 more, I'm not really going to worry about 4 quick votes on a scum.

[vote]Never Unlucky

I have a headache and a nosebleed, I'm going to sleep now.

Unknown's vote on Never Unlucky suggests to me that he's scum rather than town being oblivious.

Unknown is really not that dumb or quick to vote on a day in which we literally have a confirmed scum and SHOULD NEVER QUICKHAMMER I SWEAR TO GOD DO NOT DO THAT LOL

Given how Unknown/ KC have been interacting (what the FUCK is the point of voting now? It just makes it more likely that NU gets hammered sooner, lmao) I'm inclined to agree.

Unknown doesn't even have a reason why he's early-voting; his justification is "HE ONLY HAS TWO VOTES LOL" which still doesn't explain why he felt the need to do it NOW as opposed to LATER.

If Jealous is scum then the other two scum are going to have a hard time. They can only kill a G3 tonight and Titus is all but confirmed as an Investigative so they have a high chance of the kill fucking up.

Although I have no idea what group would be chosen if NU is the only G3 scum, so it's probably not going to be that simple.

[Quick]

@Firebringer replaces @SuperJack

[Firebringer]

I am here.
Playing forum mafia.

Lord help me.

Anyways, sum things up.
Ill try to read everything from Day 2 flip onwards.
Summaries and notes, are always appreciated.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

frEEEEEEEEEEEEdommmmmmmmm
@Firebringer

two scum slipped defending a titus lookout claim and now we are deciding on what to do going forward. Yuki/kovath/ginger SHOULD become confirmed town after never unlucky is lynched.

Oh and you are widely read as mafia by POE, sooooo if you are town good luck defending that as a replacement.

[Firebringer]

frEEEEEEEEEEEEdommmmmmmmm
@Firebringer

two scum slipped defending a titus lookout claim and now we are deciding on what to do going forward. Yuki/kovath/ginger SHOULD become confirmed town after never unlucky is lynched.

Oh and you are widely read as mafia by POE, sooooo if you are town good luck defending that as a replacement.

Who scum slipped?
Why is my slot read as scum?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Who scum slipped?
Why is my slot read as scum?

Never unlucky was red checked, and claimed he was a friendly neighbor who told jealoustl that he was town. Jealoustl kind of hesitated and came up with some weird theories and ended up slipping that it was a fake claim, but not out right denying it.

Almost confirms NU and TL being a pair based on the interaction, with the idea of NU taking a town read player down with him very small.

Your slot has about 2 posts total between the two previous players and it came up with a weird theory involving something I was a part of which was very odd IMO. Calix, Jealoustl(now almost confirmed mafia) and secondpassing were extremely town. Your slot pretty much fit into every world of two. Now that we know Jealous is town with NU, it is looking like a klingon/firebringer/jealoustl/never unlucky world.