@RLVG
Look what you have caused. Seems like everyone who posted is now confused about their own gender and are venting their frustration into opinions.
@RLVG
Look what you have caused. Seems like everyone who posted is now confused about their own gender and are venting their frustration into opinions.
We have proven the butterfly effect.
By norway passsing a law the sc2mafia community now has proven to be very divisive in their political opinions which we previously didn't know, which will change people's reactions to each other in games from now on.
Good Job @RLVG
Science at work.
Thankyou for the long post. That was what I was trying to get from you with the first post, but I couldn't think of a less obscure way of asking for it.
I don't identify as anything. I put my penis in what I want to put my penis in, given that it gives informed consent and all that shit, and have never felt a need to "define" my sexuality or gender, because I don't use either to help construct my "identity", whatever the fuck that is. As you said, we're all bisexual on an abstract level, though I have a clear preference for the opposite sex, I've occasionally felt an attraction to men before, so *shrug*.
Anyone can feel physical pleasure from anything, given the correct context, and people lean towards feminity or masculinity in different contexts. The "he's homosexual, he's straight" and the "he's a boy, she's a girl" thing seems to come from people with a very traditionalist view on sexuality and gender, so it's rather unfitting for us "enlightened progressives" to use such labels too, dontcha think? :3
Ummm....
https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/02/breaki...ion/index.html
How.....
I don't think being gay is a choice per se, but then again I don't really believe in choice so, meh. If you have to ask I'll just say I am a determinist.
I'm actually starting to believe that you're retarded. You're starting to pick at straws. Yes, technically gender nonconformity by itself is not a mental disorder. If you're a child you need to have 6 of the following 8 conditions in order to be classified with Gender Dysphoria for at least 6 months.
Spoiler : TrannyChildren :
As for adults, you only need to have 2 of the following 6 conditions for at least 6 months.
Spoiler : TrannyAdults :
So basically, not all "transgender" children may be diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria right away, because you have to meet 6 of the 8 standards. However, as for adults and adolescents, that's different because you only need to meet 2 of the 6. "Transexual" is kind of a loose term, but we can safely say that those individuals that undergo sex change DO have this disorder because they automatically fit into adult category #2 and #4. On top of this, most transexuals (not all, but most from what I've seen from personal experience and videos) automatically fit #5 and #6. If an individual claims to be a transgender, and they only manage to meet 1 of the 6 standards, then they must be a very rare case.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here. Gender Dysphoria is a type of Gender Identity Disorder. Reclassification does not make my point invalid. Also I'm not sure why you're bringing up the topic of homosexuality. Did I ever say that homosexuality was a mental disorder? Don't put words into my mouth.
Maybe they'll place his cock in your new vagina next, eh?
More ad hominem. You keep saying that the regret and shame they feel is a result of "bullying" however that is not true for all cases. That's a fallacy of the single cause. I already said that some transexuals do feel satisfied, but some simply don't because of how much pain they have to undergo through surgery, and because their body may not feel "natural". I'm sure there are other causes, but I'm not a fucking expert. Here's an example of one. Skip to 27:56.
Even if harassment and bullying etc. were the prime cause of depression and anxiety, why should we encourage a treatment that society frowns upon?
Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness. You're really stupid.
Your argument is very weak.
Can you give me an example instead of just calling me a bigoted asshole?
Gender Dysphoria falls under it. It's basically the same thing. No need to get technical over it.
Last edited by Ash; July 3rd, 2016 at 02:22 PM.
Spoiler : Forum Mafia :
I don't get why people change their gender twice tbh.
@Ash -- society once frowned upon black people being seen as anything more than property. Your arguments are shit.
Homosexuality was once a disorder, and sodomy laws were once on the books. History has shown that society is often wrong about the "norm." So no, anyone who is transgendered should not be forced to live in the body they don't feel comfortable in if it's their choice to change. Therapy is already an option for people who want it. Your arguments lack any substance and it reeks of an extremely closed minded and ignorant opinion.
Last edited by PowersThatBe; July 3rd, 2016 at 03:16 PM.
I see there's a buttload of retarded responses to go through.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
You do realise that the Church will (usually, majority) actually make them worse by a bullshit public excorcism, scaring them and usually leading to physical punishment in order to "Teach them" to keep quiet, while never fixing the issue? And most of these lead to throwing the kid out on the street or being adopted?
The suicide and homicide rates caused of this thing is enormous.
Don't take them to the church to "cure" transexuality or homosexuality.
Yup, truth. Church does more harm than good.
https://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...ty.html?pg=all
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
Talk about war-dead-everything
- only less than 200 replies
Talk about transgender
-> war comment
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
Hey they can all join the people's temple!!
Anybody got some kool aid?
Since the discussion is still going on and I don't want to end my input with a post that causes anger.
First, my view is that homosexuality is an abnormal condition. And I don't carry any hatred or disrespect whatsoever do those who are LGBT. I understand that the term mental illness may carry weight but I don't mean it in an insulting way. What I mean by not giving support is that we shouldn't do something encourage LGBT, some may misunderstand me there. After all, in the non-western part of tbe world and my country, LGBT is still considered unacceptable. Isn't it okay to think that something is wrong?
Secondly, if you guys insult people like me for bigotry and ignorance. That isn't healthy to the society either, if you shit on those who don't agree with LGBT then that isn't going to change their opinion and is just another form of oppression.
I believe that we can continue this discussion from both points of view without resorting to insults.
i identify as a computer
trigger words are virus, lag, and bsod
preferred pronouns : it
Hey, The APA hasn't even recognized homosexuality as even something to be psychiatriclly treated [much less a mental illness](since the 1980's I believe?)
If you are going to make a claim calling it an mental illness, you are expected to back it up with evidence and show a chain of logic proving why it is.
just because a belief is popular doesnt make it right
we all know you live in a shitty third world country anyway fatalis, what was it again? like malaysia? capital of trans genders and sex trafficking for little kids?
oh but no, you guys are morally sound
ThePaladin, I would continue the discussion but I'm done if people can't see my opinion as nothing more than offensive and decides to attack me via rep messages and (wrongly) call me homophobic.
Seriously, if I think that Alzheimer is a mental illness and then 50 years later science-wise and social-wise people state that it is natural, does that mean I hate and insult people with Alzheimer? Am I Alzheimer-phobic?
oh you're not homophobic, right?
i fucking hate jews, hitler was totally right... but don't worry, i'm not an anti-semite. it's ok for me to be backwards cause my country is too
answer the fucking question: are you, or are you not, from a shitty third world country?\
fucking some shithole southern asian country. vietnam, taiwan, malaysia, some bullshit area like that. where prostitution and fucking little kids is pretty acceptable, but not being gay
there's gay members of this site, yet here you sit calling them mentally abnormal. you're a real stand up fella.
go fuck yourself
Thank you Anonymous Donor
to build on what gyrlander said, to call something a mental illness implies somebody is, definitively, wrong.
he hit the nail on the head pretty good imo.
thank god raptor and lys don't come on this site anymore, they'd tear you a new fucking ass for being such a little bitch
If new information comes about of something, you are expected to change your position or at the very least consider the new information.
I don't think Alzheimers is a very good comparison due to its nature and clear demonstrable negative(hard to argue positive) effects, a better example might be MPD or DID.
Yeah, insulting people even if you think the insult is good, isn't a way you really want to start a discussion off. In morality/philosophy debates, you never due that during the debate, you may do it after the debate, but not during.
The point of debates is to convince either the other debator or the judges/audience of a position. Insulting people does nothing in this regard.
Even if I thought my opponent was a Neo-Nazi. I wouldn't just call the guy a neo-nazi. I would ask the question well your position on X,Y, Z, etc. seems to be very similar to the National Socialist mindset in the 20th century, do you find this comparison apt and if so do you find that the behaviour of B was justified back then since its key justifications were X and Z.....
[of course you'd word this a whole lot differently if this was a formal, moderated, and judged debate; but here's a quick example]
This goes for both sides.
Moral High Ground doesn't apply in a debate on morality, that's what you are trying to prove.
This doesn't even remotely matter to the veracity of a position.
Now you've just insulted multiple country's, their people, and made broad generalization, some of which I don't even think are stereotypes.
In a debate there are usually people in the audience who are already aligned with a certain position. It doesn't change the veracity of claims.
country's? nice grammar kid
im not arguing or debating jack shit, i'm pointing out fatalis is a nigger.
i didnt insult anything. those countries are shitholes. don't think so? move to one rofl. check out some sick photos online, and maybe try visiting one if you disagree with the views of somebody who has
dirt ass nasty countries
also, you seem to be a little kid. maybe 10th grade on summer break? don't care
asia is very well known for its prostitution and child sex rings, maybe you should break out a book or two rofl
asian territories (the ones i listed, anyway) are also well known for the trannie brothels
checkmate
If you even read what you type and you think I'm the one being offensive,
'go fuck yourself'
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
Bruno deliberately winds people up for kicks. He probably doesn't actually think everyone from Third World Asia should be ignored when talking about sex ethics due to sex problems Asia has, because that's an insane position. Nah, I think he's (awkwardly) trying to stick up for homosexuals on the forum.
Just take some stuff he says with a pinch of salt :3