M-FM Overwatch

[M-FM Hanzo]

okay i dont like this either. weird reaction to being prodded and its in response to hanzo at that

hanzo, torb, mccree for scum atm

Nice job, easy picks!

[M-FM Reaper]

• M-FM Hanzo (5 [L-6]):
  M-FM Tracer, M-FM Pharah, M-FM Lucio,M-FM Winston, M-FM Soldier 76
  

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  M-FM Pharah (1 [L-10]):
  M-FM Hanzo
  

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  M-FM Winston (2 [L-9]):
  M-FM Zarya, M-FM Reaper

I think the reasons for voting Hanzo are shit.

[M-FM Hanzo]

I think the reasons for voting Hanzo are shit.

It's because I don't qualify for a perfect town player.

[M-FM Tracer]

Nice job, easy picks!

you realise i was the second vote on you right? way before you were 'easy'

how are the other two not scummy? pls say

reapers point on mccree was kinda pretentious but i get where he was coming from at least?

[M-FM Bastion]

Fuck, I thought Game was starting on Day 1 so I never voted.

[M-FM Zarya]

hanzo's wagon feels strongly scum driven. lucio's jump on was the worst so far.

[M-FM Soldier 76]

Vote because I'm lazy and very useless. Is there even a pro-scum play behind what I'm doing?

Sheesh, this is why town has so many mislynches, they jump in 2 hours without even considering things

playing as scum = trying to appear as town, which is the argument that we are bringing up. your posts missed the mark

[M-FM Hanzo]

you realise i was the second vote on you right? way before you were 'easy'

how are the other two not scummy? pls say

reapers point on mccree was kinda pretentious but i get where he was coming from at least?

Because obviously I'm easy, I haven't done shit otherwise. I didn't say they wernt scummy, but especially on Mccree you developped a scum read on someone because of a single post where they defended someone. Do you think scum is going to be that obvious.

[M-FM Zarya]

meanwhile winston continues to have 9 too few votes on him.

[M-FM Tracer]

hanzo's wagon feels strongly scum driven. lucio's jump on was the worst so far.

why?

your not going to be very effective if you dont back up your points a bit more tbh

[M-FM Soldier 76]

hanzo's wagon feels strongly scum driven. lucio's jump on was the worst so far.

dont understand your pov at all, lucio's post was the strongest and why i switched my vote

[M-FM Hanzo]

playing as scum = trying to appear as town, which is the argument that we are bringing up. your posts missed the mark

Hm okay, so the argument you're using is "whoever tries is town." Whoever looks like they are trying but actually aren't is scum"

[M-FM Hanzo]

dont understand your pov at all, lucio's post was the strongest and why i switched my vote

Are you new?

[M-FM Tracer]

Because obviously I'm easy, I haven't done shit otherwise. I didn't say they wernt scummy, but especially on Mccree you developped a scum read on someone because of a single post where they defended someone. Do you think scum is going to be that obvious.

so stop being easy then if your so aware of it?

too scummy to be scum is shit as a defense, try again

[M-FM Reaper]

playing as scum = trying to appear as town, which is the argument that we are bringing up. your posts missed the mark

I have to disagree. Playing as Scum is to make other people look more Scummy than yourself and misleading Town, not looking Townie.

[M-FM Bastion]

HIGH NOON is scum. Posting a list of "people who haven't posted yet" 2 hours in is the most awful attempt at disguising active lurking I've ever seen.

-vote M-FM McCree

[M-FM Lucio]

it could well be a playstyle thing. either way i'm strongly townreading him for his paranoia and needling.

Could be playstyle, I just think in general it leans more to scummy play than to town play.

he said he wasn't sharing it at that moment in time. that suggests he's holding out because he's looking for something particular and sharing his thoughts would wreck that process. that's town-motivated.

This point is a bit more palatable to me. Again, this is something he could do as scum as well, just claiming to hold out with some reasoning and end up never providing it if he's never prodded about it again. But I concede that this is probably a less likely scenario.

As for effort, Hanzo's early logical byplay with Pharah about her statement, for example, didn't really feel like "I'm trying to be useless and not do anything" to me, though his more recent posts have reflected it. I dunno, just feels weird to me.

Anyway, I've still got my eye on Hanzo, but getting more out of Winston is acceptable to me.

-vote M-FM Winston

[M-FM Hanzo]

so stop being easy then if your so aware of it?

too scummy to be scum is shit as a defense, try again

Why should I play to how you want me to play, you are outstanding!

[M-FM Zarya]

lucio's reasoning felt just as contrived as winston's. it didn't read natural at all and came across like he wanted a reason to not have to disagree with me on winston but simultaneously not have to vote him either.

[M-FM Soldier 76]

Are you new?

relatively

[M-FM Hanzo]

I feel like people rely too much on others sometimes.

[M-FM McCree]

HIGH NOON is scum. Posting a list of "people who haven't posted yet" 2 hours in is the most awful attempt at disguising active lurking I've ever seen.

-vote M-FM McCree

naw it's more disguising lurking than active lurking... been doing other stuff. Also early analysis isn't my strong suit.

[M-FM Tracer]

Why should I play to how you want me to play, you are outstanding!

you are the one complaining about being an 'easy' target wtf

your defense of mccree of all ppl makes no sense just because he was too scummy

???

[M-FM Reaper]

HIGH NOON is scum. Posting a list of "people who haven't posted yet" 2 hours in is the most awful attempt at disguising active lurking I've ever seen.

-vote M-FM McCree

I am actually Scum reading you for this post. their post provides info for who has posted yet, not that those people are Scummy because they haven't posted yet. I don't see a Scum motivation for posting who hasn't posted yet - seems like more of a Townie thing to do that Scummy thing to do.

[M-FM Lucio]

lucio's reasoning felt just as contrived as winston's. it didn't read natural at all and came across like he wanted a reason to not have to disagree with me on winston but simultaneously not have to vote him either.

Your only defense for him trying to argue logic but not read players was "playstyle," I don't see how my read based on it could be considered contrived.

[M-FM Hanzo]

you are the one complaining about being an 'easy' target wtf

your defense of mccree of all ppl makes no sense just because he was too scummy

???

Can you explain the second half of this?

[M-FM Bastion]

I am actually Scum reading you for this post. their post provides info for who has posted yet, not that those people are Scummy because they haven't posted yet. I don't see a Scum motivation for posting who hasn't posted yet - seems like more of a Townie thing to do that Scummy thing to do.

It literally takes 45 seconds, and gives off the appearance of watching lurkers. Only scums try to derail the conversation onto lurkers this early on.

[M-FM Tracer]

Can you explain the second half of this?

you said earlier that mccree was being too obvious tot be scum which i then said was a bad defense

how is he too obvious and not just bad scum?

[M-FM Soldier 76]

I am actually Scum reading you for this post. their post provides info for who has posted yet, not that those people are Scummy because they haven't posted yet. I don't see a Scum motivation for posting who hasn't posted yet - seems like more of a Townie thing to do that Scummy thing to do.

reciprocrating where you disagreed

i also dont see scum motivation behind McCree, but i really dont see scum motivation behind bastion's post

[M-FM Bastion]

naw it's more disguising lurking than active lurking... been doing other stuff. Also early analysis isn't my strong suit.

At least you're honest about it.

[M-FM Zarya]

Your only defense for him trying to argue logic but not read players was "playstyle," I don't see how my read based on it could be considered contrived.

i might just have to call it a gut thing. when i was reading hanzo's posts i thought they felt natural and your line of thinking never entered my head and i didn't really understand how you arrived there.

[M-FM Reaper]

It literally takes 45 seconds, and gives off the appearance of watching lurkers. Only scums try to derail the conversation onto lurkers this early on.

Not true. ONLY lurkers... Hmm... yeah I don't think so, nice try tho, extra scummy points for overuse of hyperbole. This is the second post you have tried to push an agenda with colorful language. I'd be voting you, but I think my vote is best used on Crypt AKA Winston at this point.

[M-FM Reaper]

Not true. ONLY Scum... Hmm... yeah I don't think so, nice try tho, extra scummy points for overuse of hyperbole. This is the second post you have tried to push an agenda with colorful language. I'd be voting you, but I think my vote is best used on Crypt AKA Winston at this point.

EBWOP.

[M-FM Bastion]

EBWOP.

Only scums and bad players. Sorry, typo.

[M-FM Lucio]

i might just have to call it a gut thing. when i was reading hanzo's posts i thought they felt natural and your line of thinking never entered my head and i didn't really understand how you arrived there.

I think that it's possible for scum to be entirely natural in fluffy posts as he does, or through arguing logic points with other players, because it doesn't have anything to do with reading players and their alignments, which is where the info gap is. Also, his 'no-effort' defense rubs me weirdly considering the Pharah interaction and obv some attempt at reading Pharah / Reaper.

[M-FM Hanzo]

you said earlier that mccree was being too obvious tot be scum which i then said was a bad defense

how is he too obvious and not just bad scum?

He hasn't said enough to gauge that opinion. I never said it was rock solid though, but if I was scum with him then I would see he could potentially be noob. Doesn't matter regardless, I'm not scum.

[M-FM Lucio]

Either way, I'm ok with competing trains on Hanzo / Winston, these are the players (who have posted so far) that I want to hear more from today. Also, in principle, best not get to L-5 or L-4 too early.

[M-FM Reaper]

Only scums and bad players. Sorry, typo.

Or people that are just busy, care to take another shot at it?

[M-FM Reaper]

I think that it's possible for scum to be entirely natural in fluffy posts as he does, or through arguing logic points with other players, because it doesn't have anything to do with reading players and their alignments, which is where the info gap is. Also, his 'no-effort' defense rubs me weirdly considering the Pharah interaction and obv some attempt at reading Pharah / Reaper.

I like this post. I was really unsure about you. Now I have a decent Town lean on you.

[M-FM Hanzo]

I think that it's possible for scum to be entirely natural in fluffy posts as he does, or through arguing logic points with other players, because it doesn't have anything to do with reading players and their alignments, which is where the info gap is. Also, his 'no-effort' defense rubs me weirdly considering the Pharah interaction and obv some attempt at reading Pharah / Reaper.

So following this logic, would I act differently as a town I'm naturally fluff posting?

[M-FM Hanzo]

So following this logic, would I act differently as a town I'm naturally fluff posting?

If I'm *

[M-FM Reinhardt]

hello

tis I

Reinhardt

[M-FM Tracer]

winston has 5 posts wtf, thought he had way more from how much hes been mentioned

from his posts, scummy things include changing votes cos i asked him to, possible buddying of parah as the only townread he talks about, the kinda crappy scumread on reaper

so i can see where the wagon came from but im gonna sleep on it for now and see how he responds to the scumreads

[M-FM Hanzo]

Either way, I'm ok with competing trains on Hanzo / Winston, these are the players (who have posted so far) that I want to hear more from today. Also, in principle, best not get to L-5 or L-4 too early.

You shouldn't be narrowing down to two people based on the votes. There is enough time to vote anyone...

[M-FM Zarya]

I think that it's possible for scum to be entirely natural in fluffy posts as he does, or through arguing logic points with other players, because it doesn't have anything to do with reading players and their alignments, which is where the info gap is. Also, his 'no-effort' defense rubs me weirdly considering the Pharah interaction and obv some attempt at reading Pharah / Reaper.

can't find the no effort defense right now but i'll reread soon. going to have to call it night rn tho.
be back in the morning.

[M-FM Hanzo]

hello

tis I

Reinhardt

Hello!

[M-FM Hanzo]

Also, I can't find the quote right now but I don't like where Solider said he is going to be more active day 2. It really is a scummy play because it's 1.) asking for pity, if you can't play it's better just to say that. 2.) it's acting like lurking is a scum-aligned play.

[M-FM Hanzo]

Anyone want to have a 1 on 1 chat with Me? I can feel the activity dimming down.

[M-FM Reaper]

winston has 5 posts wtf, thought he had way more from how much hes been mentioned

from his posts, scummy things include changing votes cos i asked him to, possible buddying of parah as the only townread he talks about, the kinda crappy scumread on reaper

so i can see where the wagon came from but im gonna sleep on it for now and see how he responds to the scumreads

I can tell you right now how he is going to respond, no need to wait. He is going to continue to throw shade at me (and others) and dismiss the Scum read on himself.

[M-FM Hanzo]

I can tell you right now how he is going to respond, no need to wait. He is going to continue to throw shade at me (and others) and dismiss the Scum read on himself.

Want to talk with me? I guess now is question time.