S-FM 191: Decisions

[BananaCucho]

We're not policy lynching since Excalibur is "trying" now. That was disbanded once Calix issued a warning to "try"

[secondpassing]

We're not policy lynching since Excalibur is "trying" now. That was disbanded once Calix issued a warning to "try"

I have seen evidence of him trying yet. He's not being replaced because he is no longer trolling but it doesn't mean he has posted any substance yet.

[BananaCucho]

I have seen evidence of him trying yet. He's not being replaced because he is no longer trolling but it doesn't mean he has posted any substance yet.

Right but we were policy lynching him for being a meme, not actively lurking. You can read into active lurking; you can't read a constant meme.

[secondpassing]

Right but we were policy lynching him for being a meme, not actively lurking. You can read into active lurking; you can't read a constant meme.

Okay maybe he's not being a meme. I don't know what to call him, but he hasn't written anything good and I would like to see him lynched.

[BananaCucho]

Okay maybe he's not being a meme. I don't know what to call him, but he hasn't written anything good and I would like to see him lynched.

I think you're right. Plus I've thought about it... Like I said before Fire was either town or wanting me to think he was town for this 1v1 against me... But I'm leaning towards the former atm.

-vote Excalibur

[MattZed]

@MattZed

Summary: I was brought to L-1 yesterday, then the train went away
BananaCucho was brought to L-1
Excalibur posted fluff the whole game
We lynched AIVION for being scummy, he was mafia

Frozen Angel died despite being scum read by some players
Firebringer wants players to not vote, and then vote the player who votes
Train builds on Firebringer

Current situation:
According to setup, a player must be lynched everyday.
Town has an overwhelming majority and only loses with 3 mislynches.


Vote Firebringer if you think Firebringer decided to bus his teammate last minute.
Vote BananaCucho if you think she decided to bus her teammate early.
Vote TDL/PoD if you think we should still be pressuring at this stage. (but you're in here)
Vote SuperJack if you think he was scummy for pushing a policy lynch yesterday.
Vote me if you think I'm being inconsistent.
Vote Excalibur to do a policy lynch.

Someone call me out if this is not the current situation.

Appreciated. Reading thread now. If anyone has something to add, or something I direly need to do right now, @ me again.

[SuperJack]

I think you're right. Plus I've thought about it... Like I said before Fire was either town or wanting me to think he was town for this 1v1 against me... But I'm leaning towards the former atm.

-vote Excalibur

-vote Excalibur

[powerofdeath]

-vote Excalibur

Never trust me with a hammer

[The Godfather]

Excalibur has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Excalibur (4 [L-0]): SuperJack, BananaCucho, secondpassing, powerofdeath
powerofdeath (1 [L-3]): Excalibur

[Calix]

Night 2

Excalibur has been lynched. He was a member of the Town.

Night ends in 24 hours

Setup

Players	Roles
BananaCucho Firebringer MattZed secondpassing Frozen Angel powerofdeath AIVION/ Helz SuperJack Excalibur	Mafia Mafia Chosen Town Chosen Town Town Town Town Town Town

[Calix]

Day 3

secondpassing was killed last night. He was a member of the Town.

Day ends in 48 hours

Setup

With 5 players alive, 3 votes to hammer.

Players	Roles
BananaCucho Firebringer MattZed secondpassing Frozen Angel powerofdeath AIVION/ Helz SuperJack Excalibur	Mafia Mafia Chosen Town Chosen Town Town Town Town Town Town

[MattZed]

Can someone please explain to me why Excalibur was lynched yesterday over Firebringer of powerofdeath?

[MattZed]

Can someone please explain to me why Excalibur was lynched yesterday over Firebringer of powerofdeath?

*or

[BananaCucho]

Can someone please explain to me why Excalibur was lynched yesterday over Firebringer of powerofdeath?

I had a change of heart about Fire. I thought more about how he unvoted me at L-1, and since I am the chosen that doesn't make sense for scum to do.

SJ sheeped me. He seems kinds complacent after being put on the "unwilling to lynch" list. Definitely getting weird vibes from that.

Plus his 1v1 against me screams of town.

Not sure what to think now since SP wasn't chosen. I don't feelnPOD is chosen town because when it came to a POD or Excalibur counter wagon, I was voted up.

-vote powerofdeath

[MattZed]

I had a change of heart about Fire. I thought more about how he unvoted me at L-1, and since I am the chosen that doesn't make sense for scum to do.

SJ sheeped me. He seems kinds complacent after being put on the "unwilling to lynch" list. Definitely getting weird vibes from that.

Plus his 1v1 against me screams of town.

Not sure what to think now since SP wasn't chosen. I don't feelnPOD is chosen town because when it came to a POD or Excalibur counter wagon, I was voted up.

-vote powerofdeath

Methinks the scum used their "not chosen" pass on Frozen; he was MVP from the M-FM after all.

I agree with a pod lynch on the basis of AIVION's D1 interactions. She was willing to prod Fire a little, but not pod.

BananaCucho almost has to be a chosen town at this point; a main leader of a lynch behind AIVION lynch, and the other person she was trying to lynch turns out to not be chosen. It would be a crazy scum gambit to bus your partner D1 and delay going after a chosen, thus town. Any scum in their right minds would have shot Banana by now, hence chosen.

-vote powerofdeath

[BananaCucho]

AIVIONs a she?

[MattZed]

AIVIONs a she?

No, but I was under that impression when I first met him, so it slips out now and again.

[BananaCucho]

Also the 1v1 part of my post was in reference to fire not SJ. I stuck that in there after I wrote the last part and put it in the wrong place

[MattZed]

Also the 1v1 part of my post was in reference to fire not SJ. I stuck that in there after I wrote the last part and put it in the wrong place

Why aren't you considering the possibility that you're chosen town and Fire was desperate to get you lynched to achieve his wincon?

[SuperJack]

I had a change of heart about Fire. I thought more about how he unvoted me at L-1, and since I am the chosen that doesn't make sense for scum to do.

SJ sheeped me. He seems kinds complacent after being put on the "unwilling to lynch" list. Definitely getting weird vibes from that.

Plus his 1v1 against me screams of town.

Not sure what to think now since SP wasn't chosen. I don't feelnPOD is chosen town because when it came to a POD or Excalibur counter wagon, I was voted up.

-vote powerofdeath

Well games basically down to "scum is one of these three" so I'm just chill with lynching them.

-vote powerofdeath

[MattZed]

-unvote

....

[MattZed]

My first guess is pod, but I don't want a repeat of yesterday's premature lynch.

[MattZed]

AIVION (5 [L-0]): SuperJack, BananaCucho, Firebringer, secondpassing, TheDarkestLight
BananaCucho (3 [L-2]): AIVION, powerofdeath, Excalibur
Firebringer (1 [L-4]): Frozen Angel

Excalibur (4 [L-0]): SuperJack, BananaCucho, secondpassing, powerofdeath
powerofdeath (1 [L-3]): Excalibur

The other scum was either pod, or was on AIVION's train. There are literally no other options.

[Calix]

Number of votes required to lynch has been corrected.

[MattZed]

Number of votes required to lynch has been corrected.

Are you registering what just happened as a lynch?

[Calix]

Are you registering what just happened as a lynch?

No.

[MattZed]

Rule #1: PoD will, at the very least, be allowed to get in here and list his thoughts before being executed.

Anyone who breaks rule #1 is getting auto-voted by me tomorrow.

[BananaCucho]

Why aren't you considering the possibility that you're chosen town and Fire was desperate to get you lynched to achieve his wincon?

I was considering it, now I think its less likely. I insulted fire heavily when I was at L-1 and under pressure of a possible hammer, and he unvoted. If he was scum he could have left his vote on me and let someone come along and hit me. If I'm chosen town this play makes sense, so it feels town motivated in the way he unvoted.

Again with the 1v1, I'd he's lynched its GG. His plan to 1v1 me feels like a) a town who's tunneled on me who truly believes I'm scum and wants to prove it by being lynched himself, or b) a scum that knows I would think that way, which is very clever. I'm over my pride, if Fire pulled that play as scum I will pat him on the back and be proud of him setting off on his journey to become banana #2 the right way. I just don't find it likely that that's the case.

Order of suspicion:

POD -> SJ -> Fire -> MZ

I don't think POD is chosen so even if we're wrong, scum's choice is already made and it will be a pretty clear picture who the last scum is I think. 2 chosen vs 1 scum and we can analyze all 3 players left and determine who is most likely chosen (based on day 1 votes)

That being said, game is probably over here with PODs lynch.

[powerofdeath]

Firebringer is scum, youre all bad at reading me. Peace out!

-vote Firebringer

[powerofdeath]

Also why was secondpassing killed? I had him/her listed as potential scum.

Lynch me and you waste your last mislynch.

You should both lynch MattZed and Firebringer.

[powerofdeath]

Did Firebringer even talk today yet?

[Firebringer]

Did Firebringer even talk today yet?

No.

[powerofdeath]

ok

[Firebringer]

Yeah, I am not lynching PoD today. I feel confident enough that he is town.

-vote MattZed

Everyones going to expect explanations for this, well its mostly gut.

[Firebringer]

Rule #1: PoD will, at the very least, be allowed to get in here and list his thoughts before being executed.

Anyone who breaks rule #1 is getting auto-voted by me tomorrow.

See this post? It assumes he knows he will be alive tomorrow, its setting up another mislynch.

[Firebringer]

I have thought it over, I think me and BananaCucho are chosen.
If not, it might be me/PoD with the amount of pressure he and I are getting.

[BananaCucho]

-unvote

I'm intrigued fire. I think you caught a slip

[BananaCucho]

Also why was secondpassing killed? I had him/her listed as potential scum.

Lynch me and you waste your last mislynch.

You should both lynch MattZed and Firebringer.

But then there's this. There's only 1 scum left POD. If we were to lynch both of them, then one of them is town right? Why should we lynch both of them?

This also may be a slip by POD. Which slip is right?

[BananaCucho]

I need to reread TDL day 1

[powerofdeath]

But then there's this. There's only 1 scum left POD. If we were to lynch both of them, then one of them is town right? Why should we lynch both of them?

This also may be a slip by POD. Which slip is right?

It's not a slip, Im just saying, if one of them is town, we lynch the other the next day. We have a mislynch and you should not waste it on me.

[Firebringer]

But then there's this. There's only 1 scum left POD. If we were to lynch both of them, then one of them is town right? Why should we lynch both of them?

This also may be a slip by POD. Which slip is right?

Yeah, its a little scummy. But I see it more as "Its one of these two" where as MZ post was like "I know this guy isn't scum, so if you hammer, I am going to get you lynched tomorrow" It just read as a scum push.

[Firebringer]

It's not a slip, Im just saying, if one of them is town, we lynch the other the next day. We have a mislynch and you should not waste it on me.

PoD, I don't think I have heard this from you. Who do you think is chosen?

[MattZed]

Yeah, its a little scummy. But I see it more as "Its one of these two" where as MZ post was like "I know this guy isn't scum, so if you hammer, I am going to get you lynched tomorrow" It just read as a scum push.

I will point out we're talking about my "holy shit guys, don't make today a 40-minute day" post.

I threatened anyone who snipes pod with a vote. Do I really need to specify "I will only care out this threat if I am able to carry it out"?

[MattZed]

@Firebringer , why do you think you're chosen?

[Firebringer]

@Firebringer , why do you think you're chosen?

It's pretty easy to tell the kills are on active players.
Look at posts per players, there's a gap between me and banana and then PoD.
Kills line up with it.

You aren't basing kills on reads you are just killing most active voices that you can.

[powerofdeath]

PoD, I don't think I have heard this from you. Who do you think is chosen?

Banana for sure, otherwise he wouldve been killed. We all should agree he is top choice to kill especially after his push on AIVION.

[powerofdeath]

I think the second one is just someone random.

[powerofdeath]

Even though I and the sword guy was voting Banana when Hammer occurred, I think we should look at who was pushing on Banana before he changed train. He was probably trying to get Banana lynched at one point before he decided to give up.

[Firebringer]

Even though I and the sword guy was voting Banana when Hammer occurred, I think we should look at who was pushing on Banana before he changed train. He was probably trying to get Banana lynched at one point before he decided to give up.

That was me, I was the one pushing banana

[MattZed]

It's pretty easy to tell the kills are on active players.
Look at posts per players, there's a gap between me and banana and then PoD.
Kills line up with it.

You aren't basing kills on reads you are just killing most active voices that you can.

If you think the last scum is just killing off the most active players, why are even you willing to consider you/PoD as a possible chosen pair? For your theory to be even remotely true, Banana has to be immune to night kills.

You seem remarkably confident that I'm scum. Are you sure you're not just overstating your case because I'm chosen?