S-FM 189 Charmander's Revenge: Brotherhood

[Empathy17]

Yet scientists are required to back up their claims not with private feelings but with publicly checkable evidence. Their experiments must have rigorous controls to eliminate spurious effects. And statistical analysis eliminates the suspicion (or at least measures the likelihood) that the apparent effect might have happened by chance alone.

Hope you are doing well,
Clinton Richard Dawkins

Is this gonna be your act all game?

~SW

[SUPERDUCK]

Is this gonna be your act all game?

~SW

While his play has been egregious, it is ironic for you to ask that when you have contributed nothing as well.

You mentioned not liking fire's and I interaction, what about it specifically did you not like? Do you have any other reads, and since you voted me, has your read on me changed or do you think i am evil.

-Duck

[Empathy17]

While his play has been egregious, it is ironic for you to ask that when you have contributed nothing as well.

You mentioned not liking fire's and I interaction, what about it specifically did you not like? Do you have any other reads, and since you voted me, has your read on me changed or do you think i am evil.

-Duck

I don't vote people unless I think they are evil or there is a good chance of it. I didn't say he has contributed nothing. His last post made sense. I just find his posts hard to decipher. Yeah, I know we haven't done jack shit. I've been busy. I'll give reads later today most likely.

~SW

[Gyrlander]

Yet scientists are required to back up their claims not with private feelings but with publicly checkable evidence. Their experiments must have rigorous controls to eliminate spurious effects. And statistical analysis eliminates the suspicion (or at least measures the likelihood) that the apparent effect might have happened by chance alone.

Hope you are doing well,
Clinton Richard Dawkins

As long as you talk like that my vote will remain where it is. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

[SUPERDUCK]

As long as you talk like that my vote will remain where it is. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

[SUPERDUCK]

I don't vote people unless I think they are evil or there is a good chance of it. I didn't say he has contributed nothing. His last post made sense. I just find his posts hard to decipher. Yeah, I know we haven't done jack shit. I've been busy. I'll give reads later today most likely.

~SW

So why am I evil?

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

How did that shitty post make me your #1 Town read?

[SUPERDUCK]

How did that shitty post make me your #1 Town read?

Even now you decide to question why I call you town for a seemingly bad reason. You have not been as active, but instead of jumping on one of the three vote trains you come out of nowhere and vote somebody who has been useless and ignores giving their reads when pinged out. If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

-DucK

[Gyrlander]

Even now you decide to question why I call you town for a seemingly bad reason. You have not been as active, but instead of jumping on one of the three vote trains you come out of nowhere and vote somebody who has been useless and ignores giving their reads when pinged out. If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

-DucK

Good point.

[Morp]

Fire and I have been pushing each other and you have no scum reads. Does this mean you think we could be two towns fighting?

Do you think the evils are lurking or trying to lead town?

-Duck

The evils are 100% lurking. The scums in this game are an Arsonist and a Cult. Both of which are some of the most time-dependent roles, and thus benefit more from staying alive as long as possible than from leading the Town. That's why I have Fire as a strong Town read.

If I had to say one of you guys were scum, I'd choose you but I'm really vibing that either.

t. Orpz

[Morp]

The evils are 100% lurking. The scums in this game are an Arsonist and a Cult. Both of which are some of the most time-dependent roles, and thus benefit more from staying alive as long as possible than from leading the Town. That's why I have Fire as a strong Town read.

If I had to say one of you guys were scum, I'd choose you but I'm really vibing that either.

t. Orpz

not really vibing*

[Keiichi]

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

There's really a difference between Lurker's and scum trying to pretend they're lurking... If you noticed Clarence tried to make a incredibly Scummy discussion yesterday right after they voted us. And when asked for his reasoning, all he said was "I am reserving my Judgement." (I specified the last time I saw this shitty excuse, they were scum. I'm not taking chances.)

I dunno what your policy is on lurkers, but from what this post is telling me you're avoiding a lynch on Clarence for more than just this reason. And that makes our Hydra feel Even better with it.

[SparkNuts]

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

Can you explain this a little more? What makes Gyrlander and his ~5 posts #1 town but empathy and I are potential lynches?

If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

When did I do that?

[Empathy17]

hi there ika here

anyone need anything

[Keiichi]

hi there ika here

anyone need anything

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

[Empathy17]

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

i ignore whatever SJ/duck slot has been saying cus SJ has been known to be a lurker himself and duck is jsut a troll

[Empathy17]

usally whatever tehy thinki do the oppsotie for lols

[Richard Dawkins]

Anybody who has something sensible or worthwhile to say should be able to say it calmly and soberly, relying on the words themselves to convey his meaning, without resorting to yelling.
Yours truly,
Richard Dawkins

[Keiichi]

12~ hours to add 3 votes on Clarence.

[Empathy17]

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

It makes no sense to discuss avoiding a lurker while at the same time wanting so-called lurkers looked at for lynches. This lack of a transparent thought process makes me lean scum on Superduck. I also did not like his interaction with Fire Viking.

~SW

[Keiichi]

Fire Viking already said he's down for lynching Clarence.

@>Gyrlander: As much as I'd enjoy getting rid of this Dawkins specimen, let's be realistic here; he's not getting lynched today. Your vote would be of more use on Clarence.
@Empathy : Can we leave Supercuck for tomorrow? We can roleblocking tonight, or whatever. Let's just make sure that today doesn't end in a no-lynch.

[Keiichi]

Anybody who has something sensible or worthwhile to say should be able to say it calmly and soberly, relying on the words themselves to convey his meaning, without resorting to yelling.
Yours truly,
Richard Dawkins

"Don't kid yourself that you're going to live again after you're dead; you're not. Make the most of the one life you've got. Live it to the full."

Yea, I can quote you too. Guess what? You're gonna die and you're gonna stay dead until you:

FUCKING.START.PLAYING!

[Fire Viking]

We really should be lynching SuperDuck.
Clarence is a day two lynch IMO.

Lets flip SuperDuck and go from there.

[Keiichi]

We really should be lynching SuperDuck.
Clarence is a day two lynch IMO.

Lets flip SuperDuck and go from there.

Clarence's got more votes, and they are likely the Trainer. SuperDuck is getting roleblocked tonight anyway.
Let's not risk a no-lynch.

[Fire Viking]

Clarence's got more votes, and they are likely the Trainer. SuperDuck is getting roleblocked tonight anyway.
Let's not risk a no-lynch.

If Clarence is the trainer, they can be roleblocked as well. How is either more likely trainer than the other? How do you differentiate that in Day 1?

-Fire

[Keiichi]

If Clarence is the trainer, they can be roleblocked as well. How is either more likely trainer than the other? How do you differentiate that in Day 1?

-Fire

Same way I've pegged the Arsonist while playing as a Jester. I'm a wizard.

As long as the Trainer is alive, the roleblocker is forced to target them every night. If the roleblocker dies or is already converted, the Trainer can get a recruit before getting lynched the day after.

There's literally no reason for thinking that anyone besides the Trainer is our top priority.

[Fire Viking]

I don't have high hopes for this, but he is a scum read. Just not my top scumread

-vote Clarence

Silver/Ika You should join on, so we don't no lynch.

-Fire

[SUPERDUCK]

There's really a difference between Lurker's and scum trying to pretend they're lurking... If you noticed Clarence tried to make a incredibly Scummy discussion yesterday right after they voted us. And when asked for his reasoning, all he said was "I am reserving my Judgement." (I specified the last time I saw this shitty excuse, they were scum. I'm not taking chances.)

I dunno what your policy is on lurkers, but from what this post is telling me you're avoiding a lynch on Clarence for more than just this reason. And that makes our Hydra feel Even better with it.

I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?

[Keiichi]

I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?

Then prove it by voting him.

Actions speak louder than words.

[SUPERDUCK]

i ignore whatever SJ/duck slot has been saying cus SJ has been known to be a lurker himself and duck is jsut a troll

LOL you actually have me so tilted. If you believe this post you are beyond a waste of time to play with. IGNORE WHAT THEY SAY. This is the most anti town thing I have ever seen on day1. Superjack has not lurked this game so that is invalid, and if you think im a troll well you suck at the game.

To the other dumb half of empathy it makes perfect sense. Every person pushing one of the lurkers while ignoring the others, is that not strange? I realize he has had shitty interactions, I would lynch him by his posts alone, but if he turns out to be cult with someone like dawkins then its this retarded towns fault for allowing players to actually troll.

[SUPERDUCK]

Then prove it by voting him.

Actions speak louder than words.

No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.

[Keiichi]

No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.

We're going to be roleblocking you tonight.

Either way, it looks like your cult is about to end. Poor you.

[SUPERDUCK]

I don't understand your list. Your list clearly hints you think I am a PR (you list every role but for bulba squirtle and magikarp, and if you believe I am magikarp then you choose to openly out as PR). Neither play makes sense unless you are trying to hint to a cult teammate places to pressure for a mislynch.

Your list is scummy to me, why do you have reads on everyone, even if they are loose/random. I like the morp read a lot, but am also curious how your list ignored anyone being a new cult. You pinged me and morp out as cult, what made your read on this change? Do you still read me as cult?

Maybe I am looking too much into early game loose reads...

I guess I did not soft claim hard enough throughout the fucking day.

Hardclaiming TPR, fuck all of you idiots for tunneling on stupid fucking reads and connections that do not fucking exist.

Lets lynch clarence, I will join the cult, and then we can run over you bag of misfits.

-Duck

[Keiichi]

Funny, seeing how SuperJack's new strategy is to avoid softclaiming TPR D1 to avoid getting nightkilled. Now you claim being a TPR, risking death and conversion, just to try and avoid getting roleblocked.

Not to mention that saying you will join the cult is gamethrowing, so unless you are part of the cult, you should get modkilled. Thanks for making it even easier.

[SUPERDUCK]

Funny, seeing how SuperJack's new strategy is to avoid softclaiming TPR D1 to avoid getting nightkilled. Now you claim being a TPR, risking death and conversion, just to try and avoid getting roleblocked.

Not to mention that saying you will join the cult is gamethrowing, so unless you are part of the cult, you should get modkilled. Thanks for making it even easier.

It's a good thing I am not superjack. COUNTERCLAIM ME I WILL TAKE A 1 FOR 1 TRADE ANY FUCKING DAY.

How is wanting to join the cult gamethrowing. i AM THE ONLY PERSON DOING ANYTHING. I can't tell if this game is one big punishment from sc2 mafia games and everyone is fucking trolling or if everyone is this fucking bad at the game.

If I am cult it is always with clarence and we made ourselves pretty fucking obvious dont you think? If you think the game is this black and white you are fucking delusional. I already know who the other TPR is, SO PLEASE LIKE I SAID COUNTER CLAIM ME so I can fucking end you.

-Duck

[Keiichi]

How is wanting to join the cult gamethrowing.

Because that's against your win condition if you are Town?

All the caps in the world won't make your statements any less idiotic.
Whatever the case, unless you have some actual game-related content to discuss, I'm done here with you.

[SUPERDUCK]

Because that's against your win condition if you are Town?

All the caps in the world won't make your statements any less idiotic.
Whatever the case, unless you have some actual game-related content to discuss, I'm done here with you.

The cult have a free win, who wouldn't want to be culted in a game where probable towns tunnel on a PR, and the lurkers do not get punished.

I have been trying to discuss game related content for the past 48 hours, you are just saying random bullshit. Once clarence has a fifth vote, and gets hammered you will see how fucked town is. I pray to god hes charmander because I do not see him as ever being cult with anyone but me or a lurker.

What do you want to discuss, how you suck at the game?

On a less personal note, have you mentioned the other players at all this game? Where are your reads at outside of fire, myself, and clarence

-Duck

[Keiichi]

The cult have a free win, who wouldn't want to be culted in a game where probable towns tunnel on a PR, and the lurkers do not get punished.

I have been trying to discuss game related content for the past 48 hours, you are just saying random bullshit. Once clarence has a fifth vote, and gets hammered you will see how fucked town is. I pray to god hes charmander because I do not see him as ever being cult with anyone but me or a lurker.

What do you want to discuss, how you suck at the game?

On a less personal note, have you mentioned the other players at all this game? Where are your reads at outside of fire, myself, and clarence

-Duck

This isn't the fucking SC2 mod. I don't vomit reads for the sake of it.

Whatever the case, this is blatant gamethrowing. If you don't get modkilled by the time the night starts, it's fair to assume that you are confirmed scum.

[SUPERDUCK]

This isn't the fucking SC2 mod. I don't vomit reads for the sake of it.

Whatever the case, this is blatant gamethrowing. If you don't get modkilled by the time the night starts, it's fair to assume that you are confirmed scum.

I don't think you know what gamethrowing is.

You are doing it again by saying random things. I never said this was the sc2 mod, we know it is not the sc2 mod. I was saying this is a punishment for my play on the sc2 mod.

I am town, not going to be modkilled.

[Richard Dawkins]

When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.

All the best,

Dick Dawkins

[SUPERDUCK]

When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.

All the best,

Dick Dawkins

What is the point of playing if you do this. I hope you get lynched regardless of alignment.

Sadly I think you are leaning more town,and want to hear more from sparknuts before clarence gets lynched by the donkey train

-

-vote Sparknuts

[Clarence]

Hopefully I've provided enough info from my lynch train. The arguments against me are rather thin, and I can't refute if there isn't any solid one. Regardless, SOME who refused to vote me are more likely to be scum than those who didn't: so they can get credit for not voting on a mislynch.

[Clarence]

-vote Morp

[Keiichi]

The arguments against me are rather thin, and I can't refute if there isn't any solid one.

What's not solid about you not scumhunting, voting without backing it up even when demanded for reasons, not responding to accusations made over a day ago, and being among the most fucking useless players all day long?

[Morp]

The Clarence lynch is terrible and we need a better one. He's made a whopping 7 posts and the best argument to vote him was to pressure him into talking more. This is a weak scumtell, if one at all, and if he flips town we'll have absolutely no information to work off of tomorrow. The train is lazy, and given we have 2-3 scum at the moment, I would not be surprised if the train is being majorly sheeped by scum.

Fortunately, my coming into this day late means I've been able to read for the patterns the rest of you have been missing. There is a much better candidate for today's lynch:

-vote SUPERDUCK

Let's review:

Claiming town or charmander. Ash abandonded his pidgetto in season 1 and never came back, and the rng god's would never make me become what I hate.

-vote fire

Spends the opening post leaving open the possibility that he's one of the scum. On it's own, this could be cute D1 trolling, (See Calix's play in S-FM: The Wrath of Lady Death, which was actually a neut play) but he keeps it up.

Eh I read ??? as being a person, the list is not as egregious now I suppose.... actually no it is still pretty odd. You still have not said why you switched from morp and I being cult to it being clarence by himself.

-Charmander Char

If he's town, this is simply anti-productive fluff.

Oh I thought dousing them with ash was a friendly way to keep them warm at night... my bad. Do you expect me to take your read seriously after your partner has been all over the place? I see where your read is coming from, but it was more of a joke about how ash abandons all of his good pokemon (butterfree, pidgetto, squirtle, charizard, etc.)

Also it looks to me like fire culted somebody he thought would go under the radar day one (keiichi) and stepped in to steer town in a different direction after keiichi was pinged out.

6 am will probably be going to sleep soon, SuperJack let me know your thoughts when you get on!

-Duck

After being called out on his counter-productivity, he doubles down. It's as if he thinks scum would have dropped the ruse by now if they were claiming to be scum; in reality, Duck is just coming across as insecure scum who can't figure out why admitting a scum role isn't pro-town.

But wait, there's more!
But here's the most telling part: he's only hunting cult. It's one thing to joke Charmander, but another to actually pursue his wincon. But this cult fetish doesn't stop there:

I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?

Again, duck is only trying to lynch cult today. A charmander lynch would be a resoundingly successful lynch, but he's not even willing to consider it.

LOL you actually have me so tilted. If you believe this post you are beyond a waste of time to play with. IGNORE WHAT THEY SAY. This is the most anti town thing I have ever seen on day1. Superjack has not lurked this game so that is invalid, and if you think im a troll well you suck at the game.

To the other dumb half of empathy it makes perfect sense. Every person pushing one of the lurkers while ignoring the others, is that not strange? I realize he has had shitty interactions, I would lynch him by his posts alone, but if he turns out to be cult with someone like dawkins then its this retarded towns fault for allowing players to actually troll.

The cult tunnel becomes so obvious that it hurts. This is what I'm talking about by patterns that show up if you re-read the thread.

Even now you decide to question why I call you town for a seemingly bad reason. You have not been as active, but instead of jumping on one of the three vote trains you come out of nowhere and vote somebody who has been useless and ignores giving their reads when pinged out. If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

-DucK

This is where Duck tries to justify a strong townread on someone has made 6 posts. Even Gyrlander calls him out on it! Duck knows he has to act town, so he's trying to give a townread; but no one with a town perspective would be confident that Gyrlander is town. This is a fake read, and town has no incentive to give fake reads. If Duck flips cult, though, this would look like Gyrlander trying to distance himself from a partner's poor play.

And then the meltdown:

I guess I did not soft claim hard enough throughout the fucking day.

Hardclaiming TPR, fuck all of you idiots for tunneling on stupid fucking reads and connections that do not fucking exist.

Lets lynch clarence, I will join the cult, and then we can run over you bag of misfits.

-Duck

No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.

He can't even decide what crazy gamethrowing-if-town threat he's going to make. Tries to suggest he's been softclaiming TPR and that he's prepared to gamethrow. If he were actually up for a gamethrow, he'd be reprimanded by the host by now. He's not, which means this is all a ruse, and a shallow one at that. This is a textbook example of flailing.

And then, the botched attempt to un-flail.

What is the point of playing if you do this. I hope you get lynched regardless of alignment.

Sadly I think you are leaning more town,and want to hear more from sparknuts before clarence gets lynched by the donkey train

-

-vote Sparknuts

Sparknuts, really? One can shit on the Clarence train because it is validly a poor train, but a Sparknuts train is trash for the same reasons; these players haven't remotely said enough to be town. In the same post he townreads Richard Dawkins, who has been quoting the IRL figure instead of posting substance this entire day and pressures another lurker. Pressuring lurkers is the classic scum tactic of saying "oh look guys, I'm here making people contribute more, see!" without actually having to scumread someone who will fight back.

Sorry Duck, everyone has to have their first experience of being scum sometime. You've definitely got the heart for this game, and I hope to see you in the future; there's potential here.

-Matt

[Keiichi]

LOL at Morp not doing shit all day long (even when both orpz and MattZed have been lurking this thread multiple times) and trying to derail the lynch at the last moment.

[Morp]

LOL at Morp not doing shit all day long (even when both orpz and MattZed have been lurking this thread multiple times) and trying to derail the lynch at the last moment.

You posted three minutes after I did. Did you actually read my post, or are you just content to lock in a poor lynch 7 hours before day ends?

[Keiichi]

You posted three minutes after I did. Did you actually read my post, or are you just content to lock in a poor lynch 7 hours before day ends?

I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.

[SUPERDUCK]

Don't want you quote your entire post, but @Morp h

The issue is I am used to playing with people who know how I play. My opening was on purpose to get reads. I like that you and fire have followed up on it. You are correct that I am tunnled 100% on cult. If any person came out and said I am the charmander I cant play anymore, I would still rather rng the vote to try and hit cult. Anybody who plays with me knows I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE being culted, and have been banned from cult gamethrowing as town numerous times on sc2 mafia.

As for gyrlander, I have a reason for reading him town, not going to disclose it. As for dawkins I dont think he is charmander, and I don't see him fitting in with the cult which is partially why I read him as town. I would still hammer him today if he was put at 5.

As for the whole gamethrow thing, I never said I would gamethrow. I said if town is dumb enough to lynch clarence who is likely not the cult, then I will just be culted in the night, and my lurking teammates and I will steamroll this joke of a town. How do you not see this logic. From my persepctive IF clarence is town, i know i am town, which means CULT IS NOT ON ANYBODYS RADAR. How is that not going to be a steamroll if we both are town.

I also have pushed on most people in this game. I have wanted to lynch fire, keiichi, dawkins, sparknuts, and clarence. That is 5 people I was willing to push a lynch at one point or another. At the current moment I am willing to hammer spark, dawkins, or empathy. How is pushing sparknuts scummy? I AM VOTING PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING NOTHING. I am the most active one here, which if you think im evil and attempting to lead town so fucking be it, but if we lose this is 100% not on me. I am attempting to get town to be useful, if I am evil let these lurking idiots call me out.

To sum it up, I assume you think I have been a charmander and my plan is to claim my role and hope it comes off as a joke, which leads me getting culted which I hate. I then proceed to make enemies with the entire town, and town read two people with low contribution, and defend a guy im linked to cult with.... FFS look at my post about reevaluating on fire five times. Even if I am charmander I am more fucking beneficial to town as charmander than a potentially useless fucking magikarp who sits there and does not contribute.

But sure as charmander I don't put clarence at fucking 5 votes to be hammered by anyone. People if you are going to read me as evil at least be consistent, am i charmander or teh fucking cult.

-Pissedoffduck who really has a strong strong strong strong strong mafia read on sparknuts

[SUPERDUCK]

I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.

So you think I am charmander, and clarence is the cult? If so who do you think clarence is allied with if not me. You seem to have gone hard on me, to tunneling clarence.

-Duck