S-FM 165: Pick Your Poison

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

Yet you do nothing afterwards. You have revealed you are in play, So Lets Duel!

Agreed fully. I had wanted to point out how Chariston only came in to excuse his lack of presence "Sorry, had trouble getting into my account" but did not comment on anything pertinent.

My vote stays.

[S-FM Walter White]

-vote S-FM Chariston Blandpole

Tell us what you know!

[S-FM Chariston Blandpole]

I know nothing really, it's still day 1 after all. I'm thinking that it may be toads however, fairly quick to place the blame.

[/vote] S-FM Toads

[S-FM Chariston Blandpole]

uh... you didn't see that

-vote S-FM Toads

[S-FM Rick Grimes]

Oh man, we're going for a trip to hell!

The following named players has posted this many times :
S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD - 4
S-FM Shattered Glass - 4
S-FM Yami Yugi - 6
S-FM Chariston Blandpole - 1
S-FM Walter White - 5
S-FM Freddy Krueger - 5
S-FM Rick Grimes - 15
S-FM Toads - 6
S-FM Frank Underwood - 4

Violet means they're one away from the minimum posting requirement of the day!
Red means that they fail miserably at the core aspect of Life itself!
Green means that they have succeeded in life and has shown activity!



My current select few reads :

Yami Yugi is bright and has posted a fantastic Pro & Con list of every role!
Useful player.

Freddy Krueger appears to be new to this, having done a blank vote instead of an appropriate vote, only to mess up later!
Newbie player.

The sexy Rick Grimes with fifteen posts, a clear town player!

Bring Back Mist You Coward appears to be the fluff-maker player, maybe to stay under the radar?
Curious smoochie loonie!

Chariston Blandpole said they had some issues getting the account to work, but guess what? They posted once and did not contribute shit while they were around!
Lazy fuck!



This post was made after reading Post #52 and has no reflection on any posts after that!

[S-FM Rick Grimes]

I may have realized that I have broken Rule #7 for using the color Green and will ask the host for forgiveness.
Did a read and realized that Orange wasn't an exclusive color.

[S-FM Chariston Blandpole]

I think Consigliere and Godfather might be some good picks for the TPR they really don't seem too strong as long as mafia doesn't pick magician/doc. Sure, the consigliere might be able to find tpr straight off, but I don't think that a big chance of happening. After tonight though I think we can at least eliminate one of the mafia.

Some pointless roles to me are bulletproof and escort. I think bulletproof could be mistaken a number of ways and escort still doesn't block the town kill.

[S-FM Shattered Glass]

I don't have anything else to add to this discussion

[S-FM Yami Yugi]

I don't have anything else to add to this discussion

But you will just make this useless post to avoid modkill. Nice move.

[S-FM Yami Yugi]

I think Consigliere and Godfather might be some good picks for the TPR they really don't seem too strong as long as mafia doesn't pick magician/doc. Sure, the consigliere might be able to find tpr straight off, but I don't think that a big chance of happening. After tonight though I think we can at least eliminate one of the mafia.

Some pointless roles to me are bulletproof and escort. I think bulletproof could be mistaken a number of ways and escort still doesn't block the town kill.

Well, at least you have said something I'll give you that.

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

Isn't the deadline coming up fast? Must we pick someone to lynch already? Since Chariston refuses contribute even after he has gained access to his account.

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

We have 9 hours left, and that is quite a short time.

[S-FM Rick Grimes]

We have two votes remaining and less than four hours to put them on Charlie!

Our options are a speedy wagon or we can do a No Lynch and see what happens.

[S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD]

-vote Chariston Blandpole

Acknowledged

[S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD]

-vote [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]S-FM Chariston Blandpole[/FONT]

[S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD]

Wtf

[S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD]

-vote S-FM Chariston Blandpole

[S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD]

First try

[S-FM Yami Yugi]

If we exclude power roles from thought for the moment. A lynch would be reccomended:

Lynch
Kill
Lynch
Kill
Lynch.

Instead of Pushing for a no lynch which would result in this in the worst scenario:

Kill
Lynch
Kill
Lynch
Kill.

Lynching today means we have a higher chance of lynching scum overall

But then we shall have to take into account power roles.
If we no lynch and we have protectives we may be given an extra day.
If we no lynch and have a Jailor he can then jail.
But his execution basically adds as a delayed lynch.
If we push for a lynch it might out a TPR.
If we push for a lynch, less people to look for Scum through.

[S-FM Yami Yugi]

There is only one hour and a bit left. And this player we had to force some terrible contribution out of. Which is, along with the 3 lynch is better than 2 option. I will use my vote in attack mode, sending this player to the graveyard.

-vote S-FM Chariston Blandpole

[The Godfather]

S-FM Chariston Blandpole has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


S-FM Chariston Blandpole (5 [L-0]): S-FM Toads, S-FM Walter White, S-FM Freddy Krueger, S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD, S-FM Yami Yugi
S-FM Toads (1 [L-4]): S-FM Chariston Blandpole

[Firebringer]

Night 1:

The lynch mob gathered, not sure of what to do. The hysteria got the best of them as they rallied against S-FM Chariston Blandpole. They gave him two options. Hang by the noose, or poison.

He choose the latter.
Before he died he simply said "I failed this town"

S-FM Chariston Blandpole has been lynched he was a Town Deputy!
He left No Last Will

Spoiler : Role PM :

Deputy
You can investigate a player at night to see if they are apart of mafia or not.
The other town power will show up as mafia.

Player List	Role List	GraveYard
S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD S-FM Shattered Glass S-FM Yami Yugi S-FM Chariston Blandpole S-FM Walter White S-FM Freddy Krueger S-FM Rick Grimes S-FM Toads S-FM Frank Underwood	Random Mafia Random Mafia Town Power Town Power Citizen Citizen Citizen Citizen Citizen	S-FM Chariston Blandpole-Town Deputy

Night 1 Ends At This Time

[Firebringer]

Day 2:

Last night someone got a bit too drunk in the local tavern. Rick Grimes was approached by someone who he didn't quite trust, they shared a few drinks but before he knew something was wrong he had realized the the scoundrel gave him Poison!

S-FM Rick Grimes died last night. His role is ???

His Last Will has been Stolen!

Player List	Role List	GraveYard
S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD S-FM Shattered Glass S-FM Yami Yugi S-FM Chariston Blandpole S-FM Walter White S-FM Freddy Krueger S-FM Rick Grimes S-FM Toads S-FM Frank Underwood	Random Mafia Random Mafia Town Power Town Power Citizen Citizen Citizen Citizen Citizen	S-FM Chariston Blandpole-Town Deputy S-FM Rick Grimes-Killed Night 1, Role Unknown.

Day Ends At This Time

[Firebringer]

Friendly Reminder:
If you do not post enough I have the right to replace you out.
2 players did not meet their post requirements yesterday for the game.

The rule is in place to encourage activity, I don't actually want to replace players.

[S-FM Walter White]

Scum were given a cleaner? Fantastic...
So, where do we stand today.
Yami Yugi I like as town, hammer was sensible and not rushed.

No surprise that Rick Grimes was killed. Scum want to lurk and have an inactive town.

So today lets look at this.

-vote S-FM Frank Underwood

[S-FM Walter White]

I doubt the mafia gave the town top end PRs. It may very well simply be two Bulletproofs.

Perhaps. I think we should all say hypothetically what roles we would pick for the mafia if we were the town PR. This would allow the real town PR to say what they actually chose without directly revealing themselves. Plus, we can analyze the choices people make.


I would have picked a framer and a godfather. The framer because of how unlikely it is mafia actually gives us an investigative anyway, and the godfather simply because it has no actual superpower.


I also imagine that, as a TPR, I'd want to try and pick what the other TPR is picking (because that will reduce the number of possibilities FB has to choose from). So, I'd also want to pick GF because I imagine GF is quite a popular choice (it's so obviously superpowerless)

Indeed, if the mafia think that the TPR would think like me, then it's very possible they'd choose sheriff. But I'm not sure they'd tunnel vision so hard with their WIFOM thoughts and actually take that risk. Interestingly enough, when we find out the PRs in the game, it will tell us something about the sort of person who chose those PRs - and, by extension, who perhaps possess that sort of approach to the game in the forum chat.


Anyway, I'd still greatly appreciate it if I heard people say what they'd hypothetically choose as TPR.

If you were the TPR, hypothetically, what 2 roles would you choose for mafia?

This is everything that was posted by them.
Most of it fishing to see who the town PR is. What benefit does this give to say what roles you would give?

[S-FM Walter White]

So since he wasn't on the wagon, chances highly that he was?
Nah, I can see both keeping off the wagon since it was a policy lynch more or less from no content.

Shattered Glass? I'll take a look now. Not my first thought of suspect though.

[S-FM Walter White]

I have nothing to add to this current discussion. Are there any questions people would like to ask me?

So this is their first post?
Very weak entrance. Already advised that they have no interest in helping town.

I don't think anyone can answer that question.

I do like the stance on the role confirm though.


I'm thinking that mafia would go for a bulletproof and a Jailor, or escort as town PR's.
Allows escorts to be confused if the mafia choose *not* to kill.


So no sign of either, but did have a deputy. I both like and dislike this post. I like it because it shows he's wrong. I dislike it because it's such an easy way to gain town cred as scum.

I hope no PR chose a consigliere. That thing has the power to out all the PR's in one night. Providing they target the same target/ target the PR.

Yeah I'm in favour as town at this point.
I'm not disliking his comments on these regardless if they are needed or not.

I don't have anything else to add to this discussion

Back to worthless comment. Shame, I would have prefered no comment here.


Okay, so not a fan of him being overly scummy day 1. But by far is not welcomed into the town section.

[S-FM Walter White]

Dang it stealth! Bring back mist! It was a good setup!

Not much to offer here.

Le godfather and le framer


Mafia will not pick deputy and therefore these are the two most useless mafia roles.

Again, this is one of those "give me town credit" kind of comments. I really don't like them.

give me a reason for mafia to pick deputy

Yup, when town flips Deputy he can go, "I didn't think they would pick that, I'm town"

thats yugi-oh, right?

NGR

-vote Chariston Blandpole

Acknowledged

Not really against the vote, it was a wasted spot.


The rest is just spam trying to correct the vote.


I quite like this one as my second favorite scum.

[S-FM Frank Underwood]

Scum were given a cleaner? Fantastic...
So, where do we stand today.
Yami Yugi I like as town, hammer was sensible and not rushed.

No surprise that Rick Grimes was killed. Scum want to lurk and have an inactive town.

So today lets look at this.

-vote S-FM Frank Underwood

Never really understood pressure votes this early. If I say stupid shit, I get lynched. If I say reasonable stuff, I likely won't be lynched. That's the exact same outcome as without the pressure votes. Anyway, whatever. I'll play along.

You accuse me of PR hunting. I wasn't exactly PR hunting, I was just genuinely curious about what roles the mafia may have an I wanted to start a conversation on the setup. But I am definitely showing an indifference to the town PRs. They are almost definitely useless and perhaps even going to make things harder for the town.

Take this deputy for example - we now see that the mafia was indeed betting on receiving Godfather/Framer. Don't you think a hypothetical mafia would want to keep a deputy alive, to troll the town (as it's so unexpected that they'd actually give us such a role) and to perhaps troll the deputy in the event they DO get framer? Whatever roles the mafia have given us are contaminated and should be treated with great cynicism. The best case scenario would have been BPF men, as at least they're guaranteed to delay the mafia a little, but unfortunately as we can see with the choice of deputy, the mafia have revealed themselves to be slightly deeper thinkers.

I'd also like to personally apologize to FB - I was honestly not aware of my lack of activity. It's very strange - I felt like I was posting more. Anyway, I'll contribute more today.

[S-FM Walter White]

Never really understood pressure votes this early. If I say stupid shit, I get lynched. If I say reasonable stuff, I likely won't be lynched. That's the exact same outcome as without the pressure votes. Anyway, whatever. I'll play along.

You accuse me of PR hunting. I wasn't exactly PR hunting, I was just genuinely curious about what roles the mafia may have an I wanted to start a conversation on the setup. But I am definitely showing an indifference to the town PRs. They are almost definitely useless and perhaps even going to make things harder for the town.

Take this deputy for example - we now see that the mafia was indeed betting on receiving Godfather/Framer. Don't you think a hypothetical mafia would want to keep a deputy alive, to troll the town (as it's so unexpected that they'd actually give us such a role) and to perhaps troll the deputy in the event they DO get framer? Whatever roles the mafia have given us are contaminated and should be treated with great cynicism. The best case scenario would have been BPF men, as at least they're guaranteed to delay the mafia a little, but unfortunately as we can see with the choice of deputy, the mafia have revealed themselves to be slightly deeper thinkers.

I'd also like to personally apologize to FB - I was honestly not aware of my lack of activity. It's very strange - I felt like I was posting more. Anyway, I'll contribute more today.

But scum didn't choose to kill the Deputy, it was due to them being inactive.
Okay, then talk to me, what's your view on other players? Do you have any reads or thoughts on the game?

[S-FM Frank Underwood]

But scum didn't choose to kill the Deputy, it was due to them being inactive.
Okay, then talk to me, what's your view on other players? Do you have any reads or thoughts on the game?

Was I unclear? I meant if the scum found out who Deputy was, they'd still want to keep the Deputy alive to cause chaos.

I think we do need to pressure the less actives to talk. Getting a feel for everyone's playstyle and personality this game is important. There was one guy who stood out for me. I'll go back through the posts and dig him up for you. He didn't seem very genuine.

[S-FM Toads]

Frank, what exactly do you mean by "this early"? It's day two and we're down two town already including at least one TPR.

I feel like up to this point you've been trying to stay under the radar.

Im mostly feeling Walter White is town at the moment and Yami Yugi as well.

I'm not sure I buy shattered glass being town. Would like to put pressure there.

-vote S-FM Shattered Glass

[S-FM Frank Underwood]

Frank, what exactly do you mean by "this early"? It's day two and we're down two town already including at least one TPR.

I feel like up to this point you've been trying to stay under the radar.

Im mostly feeling Walter White is town at the moment and Yami Yugi as well.

I'm not sure I buy shattered glass being town. Would like to put pressure there.

-vote S-FM Shattered Glass

Shit, I have the coherence of a fuzzy radio line it seems. I meant early in the day not early as in early in the week. Pressure votes are more threatening a little later when we're seriously considering lynches.

Anyway, this will probably seem like an OMGUS, but you were the one who seemed dodgy, as I was looking over the posts. I'm sorry for the lack of a comprehensive ISO, but you just strike me as shitty. I'll get back to you on this though, don't worry.

[S-FM Toads]

Shit, I have the coherence of a fuzzy radio line it seems. I meant early in the day not early as in early in the week. Pressure votes are more threatening a little later when we're seriously considering lynches.

Anyway, this will probably seem like an OMGUS, but you were the one who seemed dodgy, as I was looking over the posts. I'm sorry for the lack of a comprehensive ISO, but you just strike me as shitty. I'll get back to you on this though, don't worry.

You're right it does seem exactly like an OMGUS which is odd seeing as I didn't even vote you.

[S-FM Frank Underwood]

You're right it does seem exactly like an OMGUS which is odd seeing as I didn't even vote you.

Well, seeing as I pointed out earlier my indifference towards pressuring / suspicion early in the day, I'm doubtful most people reading through this will see it as such. I claim my suspicions on you to be genuine and the fact we are simultaneously talking about our suspicion on each other to be pure coincidence.

[S-FM Toads]

Well, seeing as I pointed out earlier my indifference towards pressuring / suspicion early in the day, I'm doubtful most people reading through this will see it as such. I claim my suspicions on you to be genuine and the fact we are simultaneously talking about our suspicion on each other to be pure coincidence.

Well I'm suspicious of most people. I wouldn't put you highest on the list and your reasonable response makes me feel better.

What do you think of shattered glass?

[S-FM Shattered Glass]

I received no Feedback last night.
So. Things have started?

Good, I'm glad you're picking me up as potential scum. I was hoping it'd be noticed.
My contribution today will be a lot more.

Toads Doesn't sit right with me. Irrelevant of the vote on me.

I wonder if Mafia killed eachother for the lolz.

[S-FM Walter White]

I received no Feedback last night.
So. Things have started?

Good, I'm glad you're picking me up as potential scum. I was hoping it'd be noticed.
My contribution today will be a lot more.

Toads Doesn't sit right with me. Irrelevant of the vote on me.

I wonder if Mafia killed eachother for the lolz.

I doubt it lol.
What do you mean you received no feedback?

So, talk to me about Toads...
I'm not seeing that spot as much as scummy. But I'm sure if you explain why we can discuss.

[S-FM Shattered Glass]

Toads hasn't posted enough for anything to be used as evidence.
Freddy Krueger is another one, after reading through that seems... off.

[S-FM Shattered Glass]

MIST is another. I want to hear from him

-vote S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD

Freakin damn these super hard to write names.

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

I'm here. Very sorry that Charston flipped Deputy, but it can't be helped. Deadlines are too fast.


A good point was made about mist being scummy.

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

-vote S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

I strongly townread Walter White now.

[S-FM Freddy Krueger]

Sorry, I'm not sure what much to do, it is very difficult to find scum here without much content to work with.

[S-FM Yami Yugi]

I felt that drain on my life points.

Yesterday's lynch is a prime example that when you are town, and you don't contribute. It has a negative impact upon the game. I hope our other lurkers see this and decide to pick up their game.

At this point we can believe these points:
Seeing the Deputy s suggestions, it looks like we may have either a consig or a Gf in the game. If it's the latter then the Scum would not of wanted the Deputy dead.
As I previously stated in this game, lynching day 1 is a positive action. We cannot mourn at the loss of an incompetent deputy as his power could of easily just of lead us astray [Other TPR shows as town and chance of GF]
We cannot depend on our other TPR. This games outcome will be based on our ability to contribute and hunt Scum during the day.

I have a few bones to pick but before I do. Mist needs to show his face and you all will need to contribute.

If the Scum are targeting useful players, we need to make sure all of us are useful or this will end just like Prime Minister.

Take a note. Com hunting is allowed.

[S-FM Walter White]

-vote S-FM BRING BACK MIST YOU COWARD

That's L2. A no lynch tells us nothing and I don't see this slot as town.
Lets see if this post actually gets through!

[Firebringer]

I have been getting reports that players are having a difficult time posting.

Partially due to this and the lack of activity. I am extending the day another 24 hours.



New Day End

[S-FM Walter White]

Thanks FireBringer.
If you guys manage to lurk enough and not lynch I am going to be so pissed off.

WHAT DOES NOT TALKING GET US?

[S-FM Toads]

Thanks FireBringer.
If you guys manage to lurk enough and not lynch I am going to be so pissed off.

WHAT DOES NOT TALKING GET US?

Sorry. I'm finding myself lazily not logging into this account with all the games going on. Not an excuse, time to change that.

I would rather the votes go to shattered glass instead of mist. Given the extension if mist doesn't start posting and giving us a reason to not vote him I pledge to vote him before day end to make sure we get a lynch.