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    Re: Dead Chat

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    I had suspected that. Yet I assumed the spots were filled by scummier players. Oops' flip really made me think otherwise.
    The thing is Rumpel was the only guy I didn't target based off me thinking he was town. I did it because I wanted him off my back. *Shrug* It didn't hurt me in the end anyways since the burn never went off.

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    Re: Dead Chat

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    So, who do you guys think is gonna win?

    I think Hama. The living people seem completely unaware that he is who he is. Combustion Man is out and I think the Mafia is gonna fall apart, since I also think the Benign will side with Hama.
    Well...

    As for the Mafia, the mafiascum are all pretty much pointed out, Auckmid still lives on fairly undetected by the masses.

    As for Hama, people don't really have a clue that Ozy is him, however he isn't a killing role so he may have trouble there.

    Combustion man... Revealed, will most likely be lynched.

    I think the mafia will win solely because numbers.

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    If Iroh visits Hama, she might very well win, and she could win if she has built up enough charges to just keep on repelling. Survivor will definitely win, Combustion Man is dead, and mafia might make it through on numbers, but they might be lynched by an alliance of everyone else too.
    Last edited by FM Procyon; January 20th, 2015 at 07:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Procyon View Post
    If Iroh visits Hama, she might very well win, and she could win if she has built up enough charges to just keep on repelling. Survivor will definitely win, Combustion Man is dead, and mafia might make it through on numbers, but they might be lynched by an alliance of everyone else too.
    Yeah... the thing is I targeted Ozy before I had him read as Hama.

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    Re: Dead Chat

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    I originally had Gerik pegged as Town MVP.

    But then his blackmail fail happened and I think that cost the town the game... not lynching today is gonna destroy it.
    I really don't deserve MVP at all after that. It would have been a glorious blackmail if not for that first post. Literally the second after I posted I was like 'fuck, there's no vote in there' I kind of expected my edit post to fly though. I really think that sealed the towns fate.

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    FM Slaol
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    Re: Dead Chat

    rip narks

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    Re: Dead Chat

    Well i fucked up
    i thought rumpel was neutral at worst and i had no better targets (i wanted oops too bad he was afk)
    Then the maf knew i was iroh and kidnapped me
    probably i even gave them kidnapper but luckily its not a stong role working only on no lynch days and replacing the normal maf kill

    other than that im very content how i played. I got yayap crimson and ozy (white lotus)
    N3 i guarded aang to shortcut kill ozai if he burns

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    Re: Dead Chat

    Quote Originally Posted by FM vornksr View Post
    Well i fucked up
    i thought rumpel was neutral at worst and i had no better targets (i wanted oops too bad he was afk)
    Then the maf knew i was iroh and kidnapped me
    probably i even gave them kidnapper but luckily its not a stong role working only on no lynch days and replacing the normal maf kill

    other than that im very content how i played. I got yayap crimson and ozy (white lotus)
    N3 i guarded aang to shortcut kill ozai if he burns
    Thanks for vigilante! Sorry I kinda fucked it up by killing some TPRs though lol

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    Wow, this MM I swear lol and this town is even worse. XD I failed like everything I could after disguisng as Narks, but I got ozy into revealing to be white lotus. Then philie actually did went for Yayap, still no idea what ahppened there lol.
    Also I revealed that I´m phoenix king on purpose to have a code to crack that makes it easier for me to look like town or at least neutral, since I knew I would fuck up the time stamps and Narks post behaviour (espacially since he lives in a complete different time zone, his time stamps are 3-6 am and 7-9 pm for me).
    It worked well as you saw, the harshet I got suspected of was being Hama the "least" dangerous neutral lol.
    FM Monster is Hama btw, no chance a mere citizen would have survived all the modkills at this point, also Yayap had pegged down the complete scum team at one point of the game.^^

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    Btw thew reason I got killed was, that I wasnt be able to do anythign after retraining rumpel to kidnapper at n5, day chat got that pretty fast. Also Rumpel had no luck with his roles at all lol, first he gets framer without any invests around, now he got chauffeur from vornskr and can only swap fire nation members, which you can gues is pretty useless now lol, his first role was tracker it didnt gave us to much info though.

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    And Rumpel doomed Northstar, I actually disappeared so he coudl survive, since it was almost certaint hast Oops and monster wouldnt come on and vote him anymore at that point, and he needed to vote him so much facepalm in common scum voted itself way to much for no reason, it didnt saved northstar it isnt going to save goonswarmm, the only one with a semi good credit from votes was Rumpel, but he stopped being pro town after the Ganon lynch and disappeared in the background, which made it useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Auckmid View Post
    Lol well I don got disguised.

    I am FM Narks.

    There is NO WAY Auckmid is getting away, my erratic posting behavior will do more then throw him off.
    lol i had a feeling it was you multiple times, but the code made me doubt it. i wanted to recheck all codes but never came to it because of the kidnapping
    also the host kind of hinted that it was someone with a code when he answered that question

    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar Roku View Post
    Fun Fact: I randomed his target once before you voted since it was nearing day end and it was pretty certain he was going to be lynched. But since you voted before day ended I had to re-roll it and the re-roll landed on you. So if you hadn't voted him at the end of the day, you would still be alive.

    Bonus Fun Fact: The original target of the random was the survivor. He also used a vest last night, meaning he would have prevented the disguise entirely.
    damn such bad luck
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Northstar View Post
    I hate how people are using the FAQ to communicate at night. You should really have removed the fm accounts ability to post there.
    i thought about "claiming" kidnapped in form of a question there too but i decided against it because of fairness reasons
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar Roku View Post
    Actually, he only failed it once in his first post. The rest of what he did was technically within the terms of your blackmail.
    yes i figured that, i think i even wrote it in chat somewhere. it's really sad he fucked up like this, basically causing our bad position
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    So. All the Town Leaders are dead. The town can't lynch today, a TPR (Narks) is now the Phoenix King, both the Combustion Man and Hama are still alive, and the only strong day player I see left is Ozzy, and I'm certain he is Hama. (If he isn't...)
    So it's safe to say. The Town is fucked.
    the town is fucked because of numbers, not because there are no smart people/leaders alive. they'll certainly get a good lynch through if they had the numbers. and atm it seems they have if survivor helps.
    sure i never wanted to be a town leader, that would have been counter productive to my role. however, i was basically semi confirmed town. people knew i was smart. people listened to my reaoning. so if i wanted a lynch get done, i could have made it. and would have if no one else would have done the right lynch. unfortunately i'm dead now too. but ozy for instance is also a pretty good player. and he knows stuff, because i shared a night chat with him. also consort and mm are already obvious. they can refer to my last post. just missing rumpel and hama. if ozy puts 2 and 2 together he figures out rumpel is scum, because he knows i targeted him n5. if you look at it like that, targeting rumpel was not even so bad, showing that he's scum. basically in n5 there weren't any good targets left, so i wanted to use my role to confirm people as scum/town anyway, thus my favorite target was oops (see night chat after game). only that i thought rumpel was town/neutral because he pushed for ganon before slaols death. had i suspected him of mafia, i hadnt targeted him because he could have gotten a strong role. but if he really only got kidnapper it's moot.
    at least i didnt give the mafia caporegime and tried to give the mm a new role lol. i had falsetruth as scum from d2
    also crimson isnt bad

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    Unless someone has the balls to take charge today and live to tomorrow I don't see the town winning.
    that was exactly not the right thing to do, if someone took charge yesterday he could have died. if at all you have to take charge today
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    No. He simply doesn't have to kill all of us. We have to kill him before he achieves his win condition or the game automatically ends.

    I wanted to try and manipulate Hama into thinking he could win with us. But nope.
    i had to counter this bullshit, because you also convinced the town that they shouldnt care about hama. that would have been bad
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    Rumpel seems to be the only person with a brain...

    I swear to christ, they couldn't figure it out sooner?
    ehm thanks. figure out what
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Yayap View Post
    Also who likes the irony in my last will?

    "Shooting FT to avoid dying to MM"
    -shoots MM and dies to his spree

    Facepalm
    i wish you would have written more in your lw, like your previous targets and clarify that narks was lying (though we could assume it after your flip)
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    The thing is Rumpel was the only guy I didn't target based off me thinking he was town. I did it because I wanted him off my back. *Shrug* It didn't hurt me in the end anyways since the burn never went off.
    was it n1? i was really pissed at you never going after your n1 target or telling me who it was. you would have prevented me from doing the same mistake
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    So, who do you guys think is gonna win?

    I think Hama. The living people seem completely unaware that he is who he is. Combustion Man is out and I think the Mafia is gonna fall apart, since I also think the Benign will side with Hama.
    obviously the dead chat has even less clue who hama is. can only be spy, monster or severn (in that order). it's not a threat as long jeong is alive and should be dealt with last. if all other scums are dead and jeong jeong and hama are still alive we basically won already
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Zack View Post
    Yeah... the thing is I targeted Ozy before I had him read as Hama.
    that was one of the good things you did, he became a professor and guess who he targeted? the dragon of the west himself
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Gerik View Post
    I really don't deserve MVP at all after that. It would have been a glorious blackmail if not for that first post. Literally the second after I posted I was like 'fuck, there's no vote in there' I kind of expected my edit post to fly though. I really think that sealed the towns fate.
    you would have certainly deserved MVC, at least before you failed the bm
    i think it's ok you get it though and you probably will if there is that award

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Gerik View Post
    I hope he does with the way the town all killed themselves. Our night actions were a disaster but we were really on point with the lynches and day chat
    yes at day town was really strong, no mislynch so far
    at night well, the vigis and the modkill were bad. other then that i dont know how good the actions were, mine for example were pretty good i think
    the blackmail and the double mm kill n5 sure didnt help either (this one's not on yayap, it's zacks own fault he visited the mm)



    so guys is crimson ika?
    is yayap clementine?
    who am i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Narks View Post
    Wow, this MM I swear lol and this town is even worse. XD I failed like everything I could after disguisng as Narks, but I got ozy into revealing to be white lotus. Then philie actually did went for Yayap, still no idea what ahppened there lol.
    Also I revealed that I´m phoenix king on purpose to have a code to crack that makes it easier for me to look like town or at least neutral, since I knew I would fuck up the time stamps and Narks post behaviour (espacially since he lives in a complete different time zone, his time stamps are 3-6 am and 7-9 pm for me).
    It worked well as you saw, the harshet I got suspected of was being Hama the "least" dangerous neutral lol.
    FM Monster is Hama btw, no chance a mere citizen would have survived all the modkills at this point, also Yayap had pegged down the complete scum team at one point of the game.^^
    where did ozy reveal he was white lotus yesterday? but even if he did, that was actually not because of you but because we decided he should draw a kill
    now that i'm dead he shouldnt anymore draw a kill, because he's good

    i figured you wouldn't intentionally lie about your feedback, because framing a semi confirmed town like yayap would be plain stupid. so i looked for explanations and also thought it would be quite possible yayap is some immune neutral evil (either mm or magician + something (one from me))
    but after you didnt know i visited rumpel (though ironically he just had to tell you via code) it was clear you were scum (i thought probably hama because the previous you went against maf and i doubted disguise like i said)


    oh so you gave him jailor and i chauffeur
    well a busdriver would be good for town, but i see few things scum could do with it (though youre wrong he can also target townies ofc). also once consort is dead he will have to kill anyway. so i still didnt put the town in an even worse position
    also i guess my death is kind of ok, they don't need anymore prs (unless it was mayor or something) but there's not even someone left i would visit (and haven't already)
    though i still could have used the bg ability, but sooner or later you would have attacked me anyway

    and yes you could have had 2 kpn (or almost) because of the prep.


    i certainly think town would deserve the win, because most of us did pretty well, just some individuals fucked it for us
    but even with ozai dead we still need to get lucky with night kills. crimson is the only pr left i think

    @host: who was mm's actual target n5 and who would have died

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM vornksr View Post
    where did ozy reveal he was white lotus yesterday? but even if he did, that was actually not because of you but because we decided he should draw a kill
    now that i'm dead he shouldnt anymore draw a kill, because he's good

    i figured you wouldn't intentionally lie about your feedback, because framing a semi confirmed town like yayap would be plain stupid. so i looked for explanations and also thought it would be quite possible yayap is some immune neutral evil (either mm or magician + something (one from me))
    but after you didnt know i visited rumpel (though ironically he just had to tell you via code) it was clear you were scum (i thought probably hama because the previous you went against maf and i doubted disguise like i said)
    He knew my feedback on rumpel was false and talked about having a last will, the only possible scenario that could be is if he were white lotus and knew your night actions, Rumpel confirmed that for me in the night chat later, I would have gone with the Hama way today thought and just dropped the lookout role.^^

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    Our greatest problems are the neutrals atm, I love ozy for going for false truth atm, since we would definetly lose to them if the game goes on like this, the question is, if Sasc tries to win alone or sides with someone and then whom and what Hama is going to do, since town alone cant lynch anyone anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Yayap View Post
    Thanks for vigilante! Sorry I kinda fucked it up by killing some TPRs though lol
    yes but at least you got mm and azula
    also i had doubts in your alignment on d2

    Quote Originally Posted by FM vornksr View Post
    i figured you wouldn't intentionally lie about your feedback, because framing a semi confirmed town like yayap would be plain stupid. so i looked for explanations and also thought it would be quite possible yayap is some immune neutral evil (either mm or magician + something (one from me))
    but after you didnt know i visited rumpel (though ironically he just had to tell you via code) it was clear you were scum (i thought probably hama because the previous you went against maf and i doubted disguise like i said)
    addition:
    after your flip it was clear that you knew who azula visited and i knew you were probably telling the truth
    dunno what happened to it, probably yayap was caged?
    still the lookout feedback would have looked different as you would have targeted yourself


    also yes narks code sucked, i and many others could have cracked it too probably
    the best code here is vigenere, some fms ago everyone used it, i dunno why people aren't that smart anymore and everyone makes up his own shit code that can be cracked or could be solved in a different way as intended
    and not only that the codes can be faked, even if they aren't it's not guaranteed they arent
    i forgot to make one though at day, but in night chat was enough
    also i just realized the way how auckmid solved the code was a bit off, he switched the numbers first, real narks would have substituted first and then say "read it backwards"

    aang really gave you a powerful role with capo n4, you wasted it by creating only a kidnapper.
    also i got unlucky by getting only bg, i wish it was survivalist or some day role

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Narks View Post
    Well we had many option to select out, I asked Rumpel what he could get the best use off he said Disgusier and kidnapper, since we had a guranted no lynch next day I decided to give him kidnapper (I also thoguht you could execute and go for the factional kill at that point).
    yeah i thought you could do that too until i asked host

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