I would like more insight as to how others took Crimson day 1, I had him as my top scum suspect, but FalseTruth saw him as pure town.
20:39#5 (Organizational) Strong point saying ‘Anyone that doesn’t comply is scum claiming. It suggests he thought up this plan and took into consideration the way others actions in accordance to it would point to their intention. He is probably an intellectual player with every intention to look for tells and scum hunt (Or be seen as much) Although turning the toh role into a sheriff is not breaking the game he effectively presented an idea I am sure everyone thought of as soon as they saw the role.
20:39#6 (Toh post)
09:51#111 (Quotes and speaks to Ozzy) Suggests that he had a town read on Ozzy before his post #108. He is able to recognize experience in me and that I am attempting to control the discussion with a hint that he understand my intention. Expresses a lack of desire to have my nonsense drag on. Probably drew conclusions from Ozzy’s #107, 82, 78, and 67.
16:38#165 (Response to my asking how I am scummy) I love his logic although I do not agree with it. The tone reeks of anger and frustration. I feel like he has an agenda and what I am doing is fucking with what he wants to do D1. This suggests he has some ‘time proven methodical method’ and my nonsense is out of his norm. Or maybe he just can’t stomach the bullshit I was pushing at that time.
17:07#173 (Hostile reaction to Ganondorf and FoS on Zack from Yayap’s comment) Im in line with that Zack FoS at this point. A lot of hostility. Im beginning to see it less as hostility and more as just how he interacts.
17:17#177 (Tpr night action guidance) Kind of out of character. Im not sure that I care for it at all. I do see the logic but the scum counter with zero knowledge of their roles is too much of a risk. Maybe he is fishing to see who would go with such a bid rather than actually footing it. That makes more sense to me.
17:18#179 (Pushing for substance against obvious overplayed debates)
17:25#182 (Players ignore his wishes and he takes note) Well now I know if I ever want an emotional reaction from him I just have to push his ‘control’ button
17:50#186 (References mechanics)
10:29#194 (This is pretty funny)
19:40#299 (Aggressive and assertive) I hope I did not make him throw in the towel with my bullshit. At this point he has crossed from buddying Ozzy to pushing him a bit. I do like the flip though. Its still odd he tried to buddy him off the bat. Maybe it was just a ‘common enemy’ thing with me as that enemy.
19:43#300 (Analyze on play style) I get the feeling he is every bit as invested in finding alignments as looking at how players go about finding them. He has obviously been around long enough to have a strong opinion on how things “Should be done”
Neutral overall. Strong intellectual player and pretty much every one of his posts had some real substance. I cant say too much until I see how he plays D2 to get a real alignment read.
false is still scum
gandondorf is prob also scum
that is all i have to add atm
Also
"Sense if a player is lying in a select post from the previous day at night."
This is why the Toph thing will have to be a daily post. Including feedback can't hurt in my opinion but I am slightly indifferent on that. Im pretty willing to let some of our more critical players on the subject dictate how to go about this and just sheep it.
Also I will point out that I believe Raiden very intentionally did not make the Toph post yesterday.
Because it means I am on the right track. They do not care for what I am doing and I may have nudged one or two of their guys D1. At the very least if I push hard enough it may make them want to sabotage tonight which reduces their Kpn. If all I am able to accomplish this night is reducing the enemy Kpn one time I feel like I contributed something to the town.
Odd question.. And can you answer my previous one?
How do you know you weren't prepped by... Whichever evil neutral role it is that can also prep?
The part where goonswarm reminded you to get an avi so you wouldn't be mod killed actually is what makes him lean town in my book.
Honestly I think there's a slight chance Crimson could be scum but to me he reads as lynchbait. I'm wary of players who are pushing him just because he seems like such low hanging fruit. Scum has literally no benefit to playing as aggressively as Crimson is playing which makes him lean town... And, if you look past the misanthropic presentation, his posts have been more useful than some. I wouldn't say he's a shining beacon of town, but I think it's reasonable for people to read him as more town than not.
And "Arsonist: Someone was found tinkering with your possessions last night." You are 100% right. It could be an arson play. I did not even consider that. I just referenced the possible feedback thread and saw this under the Phoenix King. I suppose I assumed the arson's feedback would not look the same.
I am part of the Gaang.
Gerik, maybe it's because I'm falling asleep, but I don't understand post 71.
I don't find this as scummy as you seem to. I think it's definitely reasonable to read someone controversial as town for a variety of reasons, then notice said controversial person gunning for you based on nothing, and then read the person as less town since they aren't even providing reason behind their slander. If you think said controversial player is still town leaning despite being upset with their slander then it's also reasonable to post that they aren't necessarily scum.
To anyone who left a message after the "I am part of the Gang" you run the risk of sabotaging your own post. I recommend that you post it alone, unless you are scum and need a little wiggle room. I will be working for the next 10hours or so. I might be able to make quick posts and read, but for anything more complicated will have to be for later.
I am part of the Gaang.
Damn you gerik, you made me get out my computer. I hadn't expected anything from you because of your comment today about being too close to the issue, but its clear you intend to be a strong town leader.
I disagree with parts of your assessment, so I'll point out the variations, I'll leave my other thoughts for later after others have had time to contribute.
I'd like a response if possible Gerik.
gandorf, why is it that you had to be scum in this game too?
I am still part of the Gaang.
Lol maybe firescum hit an immune person,
Arsonist seems to be popular nowadays.
A word of advice to Aang/White locust, Only visit people that did the "I am a member of the Gaang" post. And filter from that, if you have no good non-scummy targets DO NOT VISIT ANYONE! I would personally hate to see a OverJokeronist.
I am part of the Gaang
For starters- I am doing something I have not done before this game. Posting my direct notes. The stuff typed is literally what pops into my head when going through their posts and its written for me. Not for me to convey reads to others. In that light hopefully they will make more sense.
That first line was me reading into the player. I was thinking of reasons for his reaction and tone. My conclusion was that he has an agenda D1 and dosnt care for my agenda.
I stand by my "Pushing for substance against obvious overplayed debates". Some of his posts were directed at avoiding pointless conversation every bit as much as fostering good conversation. This also suggests he in no way sees D1 as useless.
@#186 "Aang can't die while all the other main characters are alive"
"You are Immune to night death until either Katara, Sokka, Toph, Zuko, Appa, or Iroh is killed."
I disagree. His statement was accurate.
im begining to wonder why you even have your vote on me if your not even going to ask me anythign. your just vote parking FMPOV just to avoid dcissuona dn being productive
i want to hear from your first. whats your read on false and why? and dont bore me with logic and thoughts, use examples of his post on why show me a case on why you think hes town or scum (if you think hes scum you should just join me and vote him)
that's not my point
saying "no longer solidly town" is completely sufficient, but you immediately added "doesn't mean he's scum"
take this scenario
A voted B
B defensively reads A as not townish
B realized his reaction is scummy and added that "doesn't mean A is scum"
I am part of the Gaang
appa is bus driver...
i can see your shitty potshots at me and if you continue your going to get the full outlash of me so i would be point blank and kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TALK TO ME NOW IF YOU HAVE SOEMTHING