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People think I have no sense of humor... but they just haven't seen me as Executioner turned Jester.


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[CptGorilla]

WHOA!!! WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!! HOLD YOUR HORSES!

That quote was directed to you, Plato! It's a limited time offer, with limited number of applications. You can't ALL just barge into my office and dump a life's worth of problems!!!

Standard Fee is 300$ + S&H

S&H is calculated this way: 1$*x^2 Km (1 dollar [or Euro] multiplied by the distance between us to the second power)


Trolls get free sessions. They need all the help they can get.

[Capitalier]

WHOA!!! WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!! HOLD YOUR HORSES!

That quote was directed to you, Plato! It's a limited time offer, with limited number of applications. You can't ALL just barge into my office and dump a life's worth of problems!!!

Standard Fee is 300$ + S&H

S&H is calculated this way: 1$*x^2 Km (1 dollar [or Euro] multiplied by the distance between us to the second power)


Trolls get free sessions. They need all the help they can get.

Plato admitted to trolling.

[CptGorilla]

I'd like to start out by explaining something about myself. I'm slow. Or, as I should rather say for reasons you are about to see, I am slower than Normal People. I'm not stupid, I just prefer to analyze what was said and therefore do not have the time to write a proper response before the conversation moves on to something else. That is why I am writing this here. Because I can take as much time as I need to express my idea into written words. That's why most of my comments are not quoted, but rewritten; the general idea of what I said does not change from the Skype chat to this version. So here we go!

Today's theme is all about Normalities.

It is based on a Skype chat with False Truth. Note that some small edits have been made for clarification and time-line structure purposes.

Disclaimer: [spoiler]Since this is the first official discussion, let's make one thing clear: I by no means claim to be a professional and therefore the comments and views may or may not be my personal opinion. Please do not quote any of the following for scientific uses. Also please do not quote this for commercial uses. In fact, maybe it's best if you don't quote it at all... It should also be noted that some things expressed may contain controversial subjects that may not be suitable for all audience members. Reader's discretion is advised.[/spoiler]

FalseTruth: there is no such thing as normality because everything is relative

Normality in this case would be defined by a certain criteria is recurrent in a set group of random people. Although all things are different, all things are also similar; and it is these similarities that create normalities.

For the record, the part of FalseTruth's statement that I am contesting is that normalities do not exist. It is true that in order to be normal, they need to be compared to a group; so his statement that everything is relative is mostly true. The fact that they are relative does not mean NOTHING is normal, as the word "nothing" is absolute. This is important, because FalseTruth will switch sides later and claim that I was the one switching sides.

CptGorilla: <<< defined

FalseTruth: nothing can be defined because everything is relative
Look at a star in the sky
how would you describe the star
its bright
its big
or no wait
its small
depending on what you consider
to be big
and small
if you are close to the star
you may say oh its big
but in relation to the other stars
it is small

This reasoning is actually correct, but flawed at the same time. Something that is normal in one group can indeed be irregular in another group. Ex: The number 6 in the alphabet would not be normal just as the letter W in a group of numbers would not be normal. This does not mean that the number 6 is now labeled as never being normal, as it IS a normal number when counting to 10, even though it's different from all the other numbers.

However, to claim that nothing can be defined would be to insist that they have nothing in common whatsoever. If nothing can be defined, then the dictionary would be useless. If the dictionary is meaningless, then language would be impossible and non-existent. Since language IS existent, things CAN be defined.

CptGorilla: <<< If the dictionary is meaningless, language is non-existent.

FalseTruth: no
the dictionary is meaningless
but language is not non-existent
you can still speak
because we make up meaningless definitions
that can never truly encompass what it is we talk about

CptGorilla: we can speak because sounds have been linked to a meaning, or definition.

FalseTruth: a meaning that is half-hearted
and can never be normalized
because normality
is an impossibility
for example
define a ball
a round spherical object
but you can never truly define it
because there are so many varieties of balls
ones with stripes
ones that can bounce
disco balls
etc
there is no normal human
what is considered a human is also relative
some may say that black people arent human
because their DNA is different
from white people
but that depends on what you define as white people
how many genes have to be alike?
where do you stop?
monkeys share 99% of our DNA

Dark Revenant: nothing can be permanently defined
/argument

Dark Revenant made an interesting argument. My argument is slightly different: Definitions are not absolute. No single object can be fully described by using only one word. As an answer to "where do you stop?", you stop when the item can be singled out from it's group so that everyone knows exactly which item you are referring to.

The ball as an example, if all you have to choose from is a ball and a cube, the word ball is sufficient. Every other characteristic of the ball does not need to be stated, since we already know what item you are referring to. If you have a stripped ball, a dotted ball and a stripped cube, then you would now need to add the adjective "stripped" to ball in order to distinguish it from the other 2 items.

The point is this: just because "ball" can not define the item on it's own does not mean that "ball" is meaningless and never defines anything.

CptGorilla: so you are telling me that if i were to ask you to point to a ball, you would not know what to do?

FalseTruth: no, i would know what to do because we use the definition that is meaningless to bring some fake meaning to the ball
that doesnt mean that we are actually defining the ball
we can never define anything

CptGorilla: if you understand the word ball and can associate objects to the word, it is because ball has a definition

FalseTruth: (quoting) CptGorilla: <<< because ball has a definition
an incomplete definition

Now remember... FalseTruth's original statement was "nothing can be defined because everything is relative". Now he is switching it to "definitions are incomplete". A small change, but a change none the less.

FalseTruth: language will always be incomplete
you can never find a word to describe everything you see and hear and experience

CptGorilla: definitions can have variable start/stop criterias. Ususally if the criteria is in the grey area, we would use a different word.

FalseTruth: but you can never attain perfection
there will always be gray areas

Regarding "you can never attain perfection", yes you can. If the item matches perfectly to the meaning of a word, then it's a perfect "whatever". It should be noted that some words can never be matched perfectly, size for example; there is no perfectly BIG ball.

FalseTruth: what one word means to one person, may mean another thing entirely to another person
homonyms
can only be understood in context

CptGorilla: and yet, if a baby says "milk", adults know exactly what it wants.

FalseTruth: babies dont say milk until 2-3 years of age
so that argument is invalid
also those things are programmed into all human beings

CptGorilla: the argument is valid
your definition of baby simply varies slightly from mine.

FalseTruth: exactly my point
definitions are variable
= my whole argument

CptGorilla: but not meaningless
= my argument

FalseTruth: meaningless in the grand scheme of things
yes
meaningless to humans
no
because we need communication
to (edit: -bleep-) get (edit: -bleep- [things]) done
im not arguing that is is meaningless to you

CptGorilla: meaningless insists that it has NO meaning whatsoever, which is false, since such a theory would make language an impossibility

FalseTruth: then everything is meaningful
by that definition

CptGorilla: to an extent
not absolutes

FalseTruth: which further proves
my point
that definitions are variable
go look at two different dictionaries
and i guaruntee they will not word any single word the exact same way

Now for my favorite part...

CptGorilla: your point was they are meaningless. mine was they are variable.

FalseTruth: no it wasnt lol
you just switched sides
so i guess my work here is done

CptGorilla: i simply made the statement that things CAN be defined
though not necessairly in absolutes

FalseTruth: My argument was that: There is no such thing as normality
nothing is normal

CptGorilla: your statement was the dictionary is meaningless

FalseTruth: that was to prove my above point
your argument is that there is normality

And I stick to my argument that normality exists.

CptGorilla: a ball is "normally" spherical
though it can range in sizes

FalseTruth: normal
what is normal?
its relative

CptGorilla: find me a non-spherical ball.

FalseTruth: someone can look at a ball and say it was cubic
how would you disprove them
hm?

CptGorilla: a cube is six squares formed in 3d

FalseTruth: then i would say
no it isnt
its a spherical shape
formed in 3d
now what?

CptGorilla: then you would have a mental illness or a language problem

FalseTruth: but HOW
just because most people assign the word BALL to a spherical shape doesnt make it true
DEFINITIONS ARE VARIABLE

CptGorilla: language itself is a normality

FalseTruth: ME: "The world is flat"
everyone believed it in 1700s
so it must be true
by your logic

CptGorilla: no
by your logic, yes
because you say a sphere can be a cube.

FalseTruth: majority rules by your definition of normaility
most people say a ball is a sphere
so it must be true
and Normal
therefore if most people said the world is flat
it must be true
and Normal

CptGorilla: if a group assotiate the sound "flat" with a sphere, then yes, it's true. It would be a different language than English.

FalseTruth: ...

CptGorilla: as long as the group agrees what the sound is associated with, it's true
to some extent
this doesnt mean they are correct in their ideas (the Earth being flat)
but their use of a sound being associated with an object is considered a normality

So... That's the end of today's discussion. What are your questions and comments?



This is a copy of the original Chat Log, in the case where one wishes to double-check any statements.
[spoiler][16/10/2011 11:18:59 PM] CptGorilla: Want a psychiatric session?
[16/10/2011 11:22:01 PM] CptGorilla: Want a FREE psychiatric session*?
[16/10/2011 11:22:14 PM] FalseTruth: no
[16/10/2011 11:22:23 PM] CptGorilla: why not?
[16/10/2011 11:22:54 PM | Edited 11:23:33 PM] FalseTruth: because you are psychologically unstable and thus unfit to provide a psych session for anyone
[16/10/2011 11:23:17 PM] FalseTruth: AND i am psychologically stable to begin with
[16/10/2011 11:23:53 PM] CptGorilla: The problem is this: How would you know if you are psycologically stable?
[16/10/2011 11:24:50 PM] FalseTruth: im a psychiatrist
[16/10/2011 11:25:28 PM] CptGorilla: So you know better than to claim to be psycologically stable.
[16/10/2011 11:26:07 PM] CptGorilla: meaning your not a psychiatrist and the battle of wits begins!
[16/10/2011 11:26:53 PM] FalseTruth: i am vizzini
[16/10/2011 11:28:26 PM] CptGorilla: And I'm a panini
[16/10/2011 11:28:38 PM] FalseTruth: punani*
[16/10/2011 11:28:45 PM] CptGorilla: no
[16/10/2011 11:28:48 PM] CptGorilla: panini
[16/10/2011 11:28:58 PM] FalseTruth: nope, def punani
[16/10/2011 11:28:59 PM] CptGorilla: the sandwich
[16/10/2011 11:29:02 PM] CptGorilla: panini
[16/10/2011 11:29:12 PM] FalseTruth: nono
[16/10/2011 11:29:21 PM] FalseTruth: you definitely are referring to a punani
[16/10/2011 11:29:23 PM] FalseTruth: trust me
[16/10/2011 11:29:27 PM] FalseTruth: i am a psychiatrist
[16/10/2011 11:29:32 PM] FalseTruth: and you are mentally ill
[16/10/2011 11:31:08 PM] FalseTruth: i warned you
[16/10/2011 11:31:15 PM] CptGorilla: What you call "mental illness" may very well be to another person "mental superiority". You are the one who has a flawed view of things because you assume that you are considered "normal"
[16/10/2011 11:32:02 PM] FalseTruth: there is no such thing as normality because everything is relative
[16/10/2011 11:32:19 PM] CptGorilla: if many objects are broken, that doesn't make the few non-broken ones "broken" due to not following the norm
[16/10/2011 11:32:45 PM] FalseTruth: your argument is flawed because you still assume normality exists
[16/10/2011 11:34:01 PM] CptGorilla: normality in this case would be defined by a certain criteria is recurrent in a set group of random people
[16/10/2011 11:34:39 PM] CptGorilla: though all things are different, all things are also very similar
[16/10/2011 11:35:13 PM] CptGorilla: an exagerated example would be all humans are composed of atoms
[16/10/2011 11:35:28 PM] CptGorilla: even though all humans are unique
[16/10/2011 11:35:31 PM] FalseTruth: [October-16-11 11:33 PM] CptGorilla:

<<< definednothing can be defined because everything is relative
[16/10/2011 11:35:47 PM] FalseTruth: Look at a star in the sky
[16/10/2011 11:36:00 PM] FalseTruth: how would you describe the star
[16/10/2011 11:36:04 PM] FalseTruth: its bright
[16/10/2011 11:36:09 PM] FalseTruth: its big
[16/10/2011 11:36:13 PM] FalseTruth: or no wait
[16/10/2011 11:36:15 PM] FalseTruth: its small
[16/10/2011 11:36:23 PM] FalseTruth: depending on what you consider
[16/10/2011 11:36:26 PM] FalseTruth: to be big
[16/10/2011 11:36:28 PM] FalseTruth: and small
[16/10/2011 11:36:40 PM] FalseTruth: if you are close to the star
[16/10/2011 11:36:46 PM] FalseTruth: you may say oh its big
[16/10/2011 11:36:52 PM] CptGorilla: if nothing can be defined, than the dictionary is useless. If the dictionary is meaningless, language is non-existant. Since language IS existant, things can be defined.
[16/10/2011 11:36:53 PM] FalseTruth: but in relation to the other stars
[16/10/2011 11:36:56 PM] FalseTruth: it is small
[16/10/2011 11:37:07 PM] FalseTruth: [October-16-11 11:36 PM] CptGorilla:

<<< If the dictionary is meaningless, language is non-existant.
[16/10/2011 11:37:09 PM] FalseTruth: no
[16/10/2011 11:37:17 PM] FalseTruth: the dictionary is meaningless
[16/10/2011 11:37:23 PM | Edited 11:37:30 PM] FalseTruth: but language is not non-existent
[16/10/2011 11:37:44 PM] FalseTruth: you can still speak
[16/10/2011 11:37:54 PM] FalseTruth: because we make up meaningless definitions
[16/10/2011 11:38:02 PM] FalseTruth: that can never truly encompass what it is we talk about
[16/10/2011 11:38:15 PM] CptGorilla: we can speak because sounds have been linked to a meaning, or definition.
[16/10/2011 11:38:31 PM] FalseTruth: a meaning that is half-hearted
[16/10/2011 11:38:38 PM] FalseTruth: and can never be normalized
[16/10/2011 11:38:43 PM] FalseTruth: because normaility
[16/10/2011 11:38:46 PM] FalseTruth: is an impossibility
[16/10/2011 11:38:53 PM] FalseTruth: for example
[16/10/2011 11:38:57 PM] FalseTruth: define a ball
[16/10/2011 11:39:06 PM] FalseTruth: a round circular object
[16/10/2011 11:39:13 PM] CptGorilla: wrong
[16/10/2011 11:39:18 PM] CptGorilla: sperical
[16/10/2011 11:39:23 PM] CptGorilla: circular is 2d
[16/10/2011 11:39:23 PM] FalseTruth: all right
[16/10/2011 11:39:33 PM] FalseTruth: but you can never truly define it
[16/10/2011 11:39:40 PM] FalseTruth: because there are so many varieties of balls
[16/10/2011 11:39:54 PM] FalseTruth: ones with stripes
[16/10/2011 11:40:01 PM | Edited 11:40:07 PM] FalseTruth: ones that can bounce
[16/10/2011 11:40:03 PM] FalseTruth: disco balls
[16/10/2011 11:40:09 PM] FalseTruth: etc
[16/10/2011 11:40:17 PM] FalseTruth: there is no normal human
[16/10/2011 11:40:29 PM] FalseTruth: what is considered a human is also relative
[16/10/2011 11:40:36 PM] CptGorilla: so you are telling me that if i were to ask you to point to a ball, you would not know what to do? You are mentally ill.
[16/10/2011 11:40:40 PM] FalseTruth: some may say that black people arent human
[16/10/2011 11:41:24 PM] FalseTruth: [October-16-11 11:40 PM] CptGorilla:

<<< you would not know what to do?no, i would know what to do because we use the definition that is meaningless to bring some fake meaning to the ball
[16/10/2011 11:41:40 PM] FalseTruth: that doesnt mean that we are actually defining the ball
[16/10/2011 11:41:49 PM] FalseTruth: we can never define anything
[16/10/2011 11:41:58 PM] FalseTruth: [October-16-11 11:40 PM] FalseTruth:

<<< some may say that black people arent human
[16/10/2011 11:42:03 PM] FalseTruth: because their DNA is different
[16/10/2011 11:42:07 PM] FalseTruth: from white people
[16/10/2011 11:42:16 PM] CptGorilla: if you understand the word ball and can associate objects to the word, it is because ball has a definition
[16/10/2011 11:42:17 PM] FalseTruth: but that defends on what you define as white people
[16/10/2011 11:42:22 PM] FalseTruth: how many genes have to be alike?
[16/10/2011 11:42:25 PM] FalseTruth: where do you stop?
[16/10/2011 11:42:40 PM] FalseTruth: monkeys share 99% of our DNA
[16/10/2011 11:42:41 PM] Dark Revenant: nothing can be permanently defined
[16/10/2011 11:42:54 PM] Dark Revenant: /argument
[16/10/2011 11:43:32 PM] FalseTruth: [October-16-11 11:42 PM] CptGorilla:

<<< because ball has a definition
an incomplete definition
[16/10/2011 11:43:52 PM] FalseTruth: language will always be incomplete
[16/10/2011 11:44:09 PM] FalseTruth: you can never find a word to describe everything you see and hear and experience
[16/10/2011 11:44:14 PM] CptGorilla: definitions can have variable start/stop criterias. Ususally if the criteria is in the grey area, we would use a different word.
[16/10/2011 11:44:29 PM] FalseTruth: but you can never attain perfection
[16/10/2011 11:44:40 PM] CptGorilla: wrong again
[16/10/2011 11:44:42 PM] FalseTruth: there will always be gray areas
[16/10/2011 11:44:52 PM] CptGorilla: perfection is a definition
[16/10/2011 11:44:55 PM] CptGorilla: is it not?
[16/10/2011 11:45:02 PM | Edited 11:45:16 PM] FalseTruth: what one word means to one person, may mean another thing entirely to another person
[16/10/2011 11:45:24 PM] FalseTruth: homonyms
[16/10/2011 11:45:30 PM] FalseTruth: can only be understood in context
[16/10/2011 11:46:18 PM] CptGorilla: and yet, if a baby says "milk", adults know exactly what it wants.
[16/10/2011 11:47:02 PM] FalseTruth: babies dont say milk until 2-3 years of age
[16/10/2011 11:47:08 PM] FalseTruth: so that argument is invalid
[16/10/2011 11:47:17 PM] CptGorilla: the argument is valid
[16/10/2011 11:47:18 PM | Edited 11:47:27 PM] FalseTruth: also those things are programmed into all human beings
[16/10/2011 11:47:25 PM] CptGorilla: your definition of baby simply varies
[16/10/2011 11:47:46 PM] FalseTruth: exactly my point
[16/10/2011 11:47:53 PM] FalseTruth: definitions are variable
[16/10/2011 11:48:00 PM] CptGorilla: but not meaningless
[16/10/2011 11:48:02 PM] FalseTruth: = my whole argument
[16/10/2011 11:48:09 PM] CptGorilla: = my argument
[16/10/2011 11:48:17 PM] FalseTruth: meaningless in the grand scheme of things
[16/10/2011 11:48:19 PM] FalseTruth: yes
[16/10/2011 11:48:24 PM] FalseTruth: meaningless to humans
[16/10/2011 11:48:25 PM] FalseTruth: no
[16/10/2011 11:48:30 PM | Edited 11:48:38 PM] FalseTruth: because we need communication
[16/10/2011 11:48:36 PM] FalseTruth: to fucking get shit done
[16/10/2011 11:49:10 PM] FalseTruth: im not arguing that is is meaningless to you
[16/10/2011 11:49:11 PM] CptGorilla: not at all. meaningless insists that it has NO meaning whatsoever, which is false, since such a theory would make language an impossibility
[16/10/2011 11:49:31 PM] FalseTruth: then everything is meaningful
[16/10/2011 11:49:35 PM] FalseTruth: by that definition
[16/10/2011 11:49:38 PM] CptGorilla: to an extent
[16/10/2011 11:49:45 PM] CptGorilla: not absolutes
[16/10/2011 11:49:46 PM] FalseTruth: which further proves
[16/10/2011 11:49:49 PM] FalseTruth: my point
[16/10/2011 11:49:54 PM] FalseTruth: that definitions are variable
[16/10/2011 11:50:10 PM] FalseTruth: go look at two different dictionaries
[16/10/2011 11:50:17 PM] CptGorilla: your point was they are meaningless. mine was they are variable.
[16/10/2011 11:50:22 PM] FalseTruth: and i guaruntee they will not word any single word the exact same way
[16/10/2011 11:50:35 PM] FalseTruth: [October-16-11 11:50 PM] CptGorilla:

<<< mine was they are variable.no it wasnt lol
[16/10/2011 11:50:42 PM] FalseTruth: you just switched sides
[16/10/2011 11:50:47 PM] FalseTruth: so i guess my work here is done
[16/10/2011 11:51:12 PM] CptGorilla: i simply made the statement that things CAN be defined
[16/10/2011 11:51:25 PM] CptGorilla: though not necessairly in absolutes
[16/10/2011 11:51:41 PM] FalseTruth: My argument was that: There is no such thing as normality
[16/10/2011 11:51:50 PM] FalseTruth: nothing is normal
[16/10/2011 11:51:50 PM] CptGorilla: your statement was the dictionary is meaningless
[16/10/2011 11:52:00 PM | Edited 11:52:06 PM] FalseTruth: that was to prove my above point
[16/10/2011 11:52:50 PM] FalseTruth: your argument is that there is normality
[16/10/2011 11:52:57 PM] CptGorilla: a ball is "normally" spherical
[16/10/2011 11:53:13 PM] CptGorilla: though it can range in sizes
[16/10/2011 11:53:17 PM] FalseTruth: normal
[16/10/2011 11:53:20 PM] FalseTruth: what is normal?
[16/10/2011 11:53:22 PM] FalseTruth: its relative
[16/10/2011 11:53:35 PM] CptGorilla: find me a non-spherical ball.
[16/10/2011 11:53:43 PM] FalseTruth: someone can look at a ball and say it was cubic
[16/10/2011 11:53:47 PM] FalseTruth: how would you disprove them
[16/10/2011 11:53:53 PM] FalseTruth: hm?
[16/10/2011 11:54:20 PM] CptGorilla: a cube is six squares formed in 3d
[16/10/2011 11:54:29 PM] FalseTruth: then i would say
[16/10/2011 11:54:31 PM] FalseTruth: no it isnt
[16/10/2011 11:54:37 PM] FalseTruth: its a sherical shape
[16/10/2011 11:54:41 PM] FalseTruth: formed in 3d
[16/10/2011 11:54:44 PM] FalseTruth: now what
[16/10/2011 11:54:47 PM] FalseTruth: ?
[16/10/2011 11:54:53 PM] CptGorilla: then you would have a mental illness or a language problem
[16/10/2011 11:54:58 PM] FalseTruth: but HOW
[16/10/2011 11:55:19 PM | Edited 11:55:35 PM] FalseTruth: just because most people assign the word BALL to a spherical shape doesnt make it true
[16/10/2011 11:55:29 PM] FalseTruth: DEFINITIONS ARE VARIABLE
[16/10/2011 11:56:08 PM] CptGorilla: language itself is a norm
[16/10/2011 11:56:09 PM] FalseTruth: ME: "The world is flat"
[16/10/2011 11:56:25 PM] FalseTruth: everyone believed it in 1700s
[16/10/2011 11:56:28 PM] FalseTruth: so it must be true
[16/10/2011 11:56:33 PM] FalseTruth: your logic^
[16/10/2011 11:56:41 PM] CptGorilla: no
[16/10/2011 11:57:01 PM] CptGorilla: by your logic, yes
[16/10/2011 11:57:11 PM] CptGorilla: because you say sphere is cube.
[16/10/2011 11:57:13 PM] FalseTruth: majority rules by your definition of normaility
[16/10/2011 11:57:13 PM] CptGorilla: :P
[16/10/2011 11:57:40 PM | Edited 11:58:04 PM] FalseTruth: most people say a ball is a sphere
[16/10/2011 11:57:43 PM] FalseTruth: so it must be true
[16/10/2011 11:57:53 PM] CptGorilla: a call?
[16/10/2011 11:57:54 PM] FalseTruth: and Normal
[16/10/2011 11:58:05 PM] CptGorilla: who says that???
[16/10/2011 11:58:09 PM] FalseTruth: fix'
[16/10/2011 11:58:10 PM] FalseTruth: d
[16/10/2011 11:58:12 PM] CptGorilla: ah
[16/10/2011 11:58:38 PM] FalseTruth: therefore if most people said the world is flat
[16/10/2011 11:58:42 PM] FalseTruth: it must be true
[16/10/2011 11:58:45 PM] FalseTruth: and Normal
[16/10/2011 11:58:46 PM] CptGorilla: if a group assotiate "call" with sphere, then yes, it's true. It would be a different language than English.
[16/10/2011 11:58:51 PM] FalseTruth: ...
[16/10/2011 11:59:17 PM] FalseTruth: anyway brb studying
[16/10/2011 11:59:19 PM] CptGorilla: as long as the group agree what the sound is associated with, it's true
[16/10/2011 11:59:24 PM] CptGorilla: to some extent
[16/10/2011 11:59:47 PM] *** FalseTruth has changed the conversation topic to "Nothing is Normal" ***
[16/10/2011 11:59:52 PM] FalseTruth: <3
[16/10/2011 11:59:55 PM] CptGorilla: this doesnt mean they are correct in their ideas (the Earth being flat)
[12:00:25 AM] CptGorilla: but their use of a sound being associated with an object is considered a norm
[12:00:52 AM] FalseTruth: 4 oclock pdt tuesday
[12:00:55 AM] FalseTruth: until then
[12:00:58 AM] FalseTruth: im out
[12:00:59 AM] FalseTruth: cya
[12:01:01 AM] CptGorilla: k. cya[/spoiler]

[Maverick.]

Trolls get free sessions. They need all the help they can get.

Does that mean everyone gets free sessions?

[CptGorilla]

I'm starting to wonder about that myself...

[Nike2000]

WHOA!!! WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!! HOLD YOUR HORSES!

That quote was directed to you, Plato! It's a limited time offer, with limited number of applications. You can't ALL just barge into my office and dump a life's worth of problems!!!

Standard Fee is 300$ + S&H

S&H is calculated this way: 1$*x^2 Km (1 dollar [or Euro] multiplied by the distance between us to the second power)


Trolls get free sessions. They need all the help they can get.

1 dolar or euro isn't the same thing wtf?!


btw "Stupidity is Humanity"