Questioning the Triad's existence.

[Theroux]

They just seem like a Carbon Copy of the Mafia, with the exact same roles except with different names and in a different color.

Most people apparently think that Mafia and Triad can't be together in a setup, because it's too OP. Since I'm yet to see this I can't clarify whether that's firmly justified or not, but I thought it'd be interesting to have a setup with all 4 "races". But I also did slightly understand their point. The Triad roles are all similar. I never see them in setups. They just seem to be a waste.

[AppleyNO]

It would be cool to see a setup that has 3 Mafia - 3 Triad - 9 Town, or Maybe 2 Mafia - 2 Triad - 2 Neutral - 9 Town (etc. etc.) Instead of having the same 3 Mafia/Triad - 3 Neutrals - 9 Town.

The goal was to have a second mafia team that acted like the first, but had to kill the first and the town. How well that has worked in-game is a matter of debate T.T.

[Mugy]

Pretty sure the point of the second mafia is so that the two mafias can compete with each other, creating new meta, setups, etc.

[Portaloo]

Pretty sure the point of the second mafia is so that the two mafias can compete with each other, creating new meta, setups, etc.

why cant triad be a unique faction with unique roles then

as it stands, OP is right. it's literally the mafia roles copy and pasted with different names. it's sad

[Helz]

why cant triad be a unique faction with unique roles then

as it stands, OP is right. it's literally the mafia roles copy and pasted with different names. it's sad

That would be a hell of a rework and nearly impossible to balance. You could even argue that the mafia is a copy of town roles in many ways. Escort for consort, invest for consig ect.

[Theroux]

It would be cool to see a setup that has 3 Mafia - 3 Triad - 9 Town, or Maybe 2 Mafia - 2 Triad - 2 Neutral - 9 Town (etc. etc.) Instead of having the same 3 Mafia/Triad - 3 Neutrals - 9 Town.

The goal was to have a second mafia team that acted like the first, but had to kill the first and the town. How well that has worked in-game is a matter of debate T.T.

Right? 2/2/2/9 Would be so fun! Course my setup had 7 Townies, 3 Mafias and Triads, and 2 Neutrals, though that was a little unfair for town, I figured maybe it'd work out since there's a really good chance that the GF and DH kill each other or a neutral.

That would be a hell of a rework and nearly impossible to balance. You could even argue that the mafia is a copy of town roles in many ways. Escort for consort, invest for consig ect.

Yeah but at least there's the Janitor, Framer, Disguiser, GF, etc...There's really no non-unique roles in the Mafia but almost every Triad role is a clone.

I do actually like Appley's idea for a setup though: 9 Towns (3 Government, 2 Investigative, 1 Power, 1 Killing, 2 Healing), 2 Mafia (GF and Mafia Support), 2 Triads (DH and Triad Support), 2 Neutrals (1 Random Neutral and 1 Benign Neutral).

Since there's a lot of killing roles I figured it'd be better for them to not have night immunity. And since Town is pretty dumb most of the time I'd say they don't have an auto win even with 9 players.

[yzb25]

You can always just setup your save so that you exclude roles from certain alignments e.g. excluding agents so it's either lookout/detective or vanguard, excluding interrogators so it's either kidnapper or jailor, excluding escort so it's either consort or laison and so on. It's not necessarily perfectly balanced but hey, balance =/= fun or interesting. I did this for my save and I found the enjoyment level go up like this much <--->.

I like how it is right now. making alignment exclusives in terms of mafia/triad just seems silly and stops variety.

[Slaol]

Make Triad heavy Deception
Make Mafia heavy Support
Bam.

Also, I don't have the big post about it, but this causes a pokemon like effect.
Mafia > Triad > Town > Mafia, etc

[Elixir]

My setup is 2-2-2-9 and has a ~70% rate of getting down to a standoff situation
If you're not shit at game balance and don't activate retarded OP options it makes for a fun mode.


Tip 1, mafioso and enforcer, not gf and dh

[Lazers]

I'm less questioning the existence of the triad and more questioning of the depiction of the triad in the new loading screen

Dual wielding sniper rifles in some MLG pro pose is fucking stupid

[Helz]

Hater