S-FM 136: Sherlock Holmes

[Gyver]

Link to setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...%28sign-ups%29


Living Players

1.Ika
2.Vantas
3.Slaol
4.Astrid
5.PowerofDeath
6.Oprz
7.Fatalis
8.Banshis
9.Nick
10.Citrus
11.Nopro
12.SpiritFryer
13.Shadow42Shadow

The night will begin at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...th+9pm+eastern

7 votes to hammer.


Day 2 start: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452414

Day 3 start: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452815

[Fatalis]

FIRST

I AM FEELING ENERGETIC

#ninjaclaim

[Orpz]

Feels good to be playing Mafia again, it's been a while.

Time to read setup

[Orpz]

I'd talk about the setup, but that's for scums.

Anyways the optimal strategy is for all Amnesiacs to claim today.

[Fatalis]

I'd talk about the setup, but that's for scums.

Anyways the optimal strategy is for all Amnesiacs to claim today.

dis

[Orpz]

There are no last wills

gay

[Orpz]

Tonight I'll be visiting nobody.

[Orpz]

You know what, we should all role claim. There's only 4 possible Town roles, Doctor is almost guaranteed and the scums can't directly kill the important PR's.

I'm the Coroner. As always with mass role claims, last one to claim is scum.

[Orpz]

This encourages Amnesiacs to claim, as they are beloved friends and potential Detectives, and forces the scums to have to either fake being a PR or claim Citizen (the latter being the smarter choice). Once they claim Citizen, they'll have to actually do Citizeny stuff like post in the day chat or get rekt. And idk bout you guys but it's always the MM that's an obv scum in the day chat.

[42shadow42]

Ok, so 2 things, I agree with Orpz about claiming because of indirect kill mechanics. So I'm just gonna announce that I'm an energetic citizen.

Second thing I consider us to be a ridiculously bad situation already. I'm normally opposed to this stuff, but I think a d1 lynch is warranted here.

Currently I'm not buying Orpz Coroner claim so for now my vote will sit here.

-vote Orpz

[Fatalis]

This encourages Amnesiacs to claim, as they are beloved friends and potential Detectives, and forces the scums to have to either fake being a PR or claim Citizen (the latter being the smarter choice). Once they claim Citizen, they'll have to actually do Citizeny stuff like post in the day chat or get rekt. And idk bout you guys but it's always the MM that's an obv scum in the day chat.

Also dis

I claim cit

orpz conf town

[Fatalis]

Ok, so 2 things, I agree with Orpz about claiming because of indirect kill mechanics. So I'm just gonna announce that I'm an energetic citizen.

Second thing I consider us to be a ridiculously bad situation already. I'm normally opposed to this stuff, but I think a d1 lynch is warranted here.

Currently I'm not buying Orpz Coroner claim so for now my vote will sit here.

-vote Orpz

bad pressure vote
42shadow42 prob MM
[vote]42shadow42[vote]

[Fatalis]

-vote 42shadow42

[Orpz]

Ok, so 2 things, I agree with Orpz about claiming because of indirect kill mechanics. So I'm just gonna announce that I'm an energetic citizen.

Second thing I consider us to be a ridiculously bad situation already. I'm normally opposed to this stuff, but I think a d1 lynch is warranted here.

Currently I'm not buying Orpz Coroner claim so for now my vote will sit here.

-vote Orpz

I don't want people to believe it either. No dead bodies on day 1 means I'm fucked in the ass night 1 when the murderers come marching in

[Orpz]

wait a second...it's perfect

we lynch someone today to save me. Not Shadow though, I like him thus far

-vote SpiritFryer

[ika]

Sweet game began. The death of everyone will be commencing later.

for now:

-vote orpz

MASS BAN WAGON TIME

[Orpz]

gay

[Nick]

Ok, so 2 things, I agree with Orpz about claiming because of indirect kill mechanics. So I'm just gonna announce that I'm an energetic citizen. Second thing I consider us to be a ridiculously bad situation already. I'm normally opposed to this stuff, but I think a d1 lynch is warranted here. Currently I'm not buying Orpz Coroner claim so for now my vote will sit here.

-vote Orpz

Likewise.

-vote 42shadow42

[Nick]

Oh, I claim Doctor. Seems like ika refused to claim.

[Fatalis]

Sweet game began. The death of everyone will be commencing later.

for now:

-vote orpz

MASS BAN WAGON TIME

mass murderer claim

[Orpz]

showering and lurking

[ika]

mass murderer claim

^MM found lynch plox

-vote Fatalis

[Nick]

You can troll but you can't hide

-vote ika

ika is MM.

[Nick]

I expect them to play the game they sign up for. Which means actually paying attention to it and investing some time/energy into it.

This. Town, please. Do not post for the sake of posting only.

[Orpz]

-vote ika

Ika is likely Amnesiac

[Orpz]

This. Town, please. Do not post for the sake of posting only.

What was the point of your first post, then?

[Orpz]

Fatalis is Town, can't determine Ika's alignment 100% until everyone else has posted.

[Nick]

What was the point of your first post, then?

He voted you who suggested a pro-town idea which will screw over MMs. Excuse given was he doesn't trust your claim, which can always be proven later. Looked like scum who is caught between a rock and a hard place.

[Nick]

In this setup, zero reasons for town to WIFOM to protect another town, since MM cannot perform direct kills.

[Fatalis]

^MM found lynch plox

-vote Fatalis

^MM found lynch plox

-vote ika

[Fatalis]

lynching amnesiac is actually better than MM
we don't want 3 amnesiac targeting a dead MM in the first night

[Nick]

lynching amnesiac is actually better than MM we don't want 3 amnesiac targeting a dead MM in the first night

I am NOT lynching amnesiacs. We can win together with amnesiacs. However, I'm open to lynching amnesiacs who do not want to side with town, eg. ika.

[Orpz]

I am NOT lynching amnesiacs. We can win together with amnesiacs. However, I'm open to lynching amnesiacs who do not want to side with town, eg. ika.

We can't win together with amnesiacs. They have to turn to town before they can win.

I wouldn't worry about 3 Amnesiacs targeting a dead MM the first night. If an MM is dead the first night, that doesn't look too good for the MM's and you wouldn't join them unless you had assurance you'd win.
tl;dr Amnesiac's best choice is Town.

[Fatalis]

Is this an attempt to trick amnesiacs or did both of you not read the setup?

[powerofdeath]

I am energy citizen

-vote ika

[powerofdeath]

Can MM visit dead players to kill off coroners?

[powerofdeath]

Can MM visit dead players to kill off coroners?

Fixed

[Nick]

lynching amnesiac is actually better than MM we don't want 3 amnesiac targeting a dead MM in the first night

Amnesiac - You may visit any player at night. You start with 1 autovest, you lose it if you take a role. If your target is a dead and not a member of town your role will change to mass murderer. If your target is dead and member of town your role will change to a jester. If your target is alive, nothing will happen. Your new role will not be revealed.

Amnesiac can visit any player at night. Is it living players only? Does it mean that: 1) Target Amnesiac killed, turn MM. 2) Target town killed, turn Jester.

[Citrus]

Fatalis is Town, can't determine Ika's alignment 100% until everyone else has posted.

determine it now pls

[Citrus]

-vote 42shadow42

last time i acted like an imbecile i got n1'ed

leggo!

[Fatalis]

Amnesiac can visit any player at night. Is it living players only? Does it mean that: 1) Target Amnesiac killed, turn MM. 2) Target town killed, turn Jester.

I think its that amnesiac can visit both living/dead, becomes MM if targets dead non town, becomes jester if targets dead town, doesn't become anything if targets living

[Nick]

COLOR="#00FF00"]Requesting day1 extension until all players posted.[/COLOR]

[Nick]

Requesting day1 extension until all players posted.

[Orpz]

PoD most certainly isn't Energy Citizen or MM

[powerofdeath]

PoD most certainly isn't Energy Citizen or MM

what do you mean?

[Orpz]

what do you mean?

your role

[Citrus]

Requesting day1 extension until all players posted.

This. Game started without warning, should at least get some sort of confirmation from everyone acknowledging it started

[Orpz]

Everyone hasn't posted yet, but Ika is now a safe lynch.

[powerofdeath]

PoD most certainly isn't Energy Citizen or MM

wow u think im amnesiac?

[SpiritFryer]

Morning.

Since roles are not revealed on death, and there are no last wills, I support the idea of mass role claiming.

I claim Detective.

As for my reads, as you all should know I'm new and suck at reading people, especially on troll day. I'll do my best anyway.

This encourages Amnesiacs to claim, as they are beloved friends and potential Detectives, and forces the scums to have to either fake being a PR or claim Citizen (the latter being the smarter choice). Once they claim Citizen, they'll have to actually do Citizeny stuff like post in the day chat or get rekt. And idk bout you guys but it's always the MM that's an obv scum in the day chat.

Am I misunderstanding you, or the setup? Or are you mindfqing ppl? Amnesiacs as potential detectives? Meh w/e it's troll day anyway.

I'm going to target Orpz tonight. Or is this just a WIFOM? Or double WIFOM? It would have to be, otherwise I'm stupid to reveal this. Or maybe I won't visit anyone. But why would I not as a Detective? That'd be stupid too. Damn...