Stop deleting save slots after updates

[arielb]

it's so annoying to create it over and over again..

[Arrow]

The reason that the deletion is necessary is because as new options are made and adjusted, the way the array table used to store data is read changes. Which means that the save wouldn't come out the same way after any update to the array table, so you'd have to re-create it ANYWAYS. Therefore, it's the lesser of two evils to make someone re-create their save, instead of play a bunch of saves with bad settings for a few days.

[louiswill]

I need 10 minutes to setup my AAA drama generator save.

[arielb]

The reason that the deletion is necessary is because as new options are made and adjusted, the way the array table used to store data is read changes. Which means that the save wouldn't come out the same way after any update to the array table, so you'd have to re-create it ANYWAYS. Therefore, it's the lesser of two evils to make someone re-create their save, instead of play a bunch of saves with bad settings for a few days.

Thats called backward compatability, just default the new settings, or - atleast hash the settings and default whatever new so we can import or export saves easilly

[Account]

I feel your pain. Especially when drop bug even sometimes happens on making a save all by yourself.

[Gyrlander]

I created my save 3 days ago and today I dont have it. I will report this to Blizzard!!!

[Dark.Revenant]

Backwards compatability is very difficult to do. It's already in the game, but only works for SotDs and is somewhat buggy (nothing I can do about that). It's disabled for save slots because the game has no idea what version of the game your save slot was really made with; any time you save the slot for any reason it defaults to reporting the latest version.

As for making an import/export hash, it's theoretically possible but a pain in the ass to implement.

[arielb]

Backwards compatability is very difficult to do. It's already in the game, but only works for SotDs and is somewhat buggy (nothing I can do about that). It's disabled for save slots because the game has no idea what version of the game your save slot was really made with; any time you save the slot for any reason it defaults to reporting the latest version.

As for making an import/export hash, it's theoretically possible but a pain in the ass to implement.

You know what version u are when u -save.
So why not hash this? "Save slot created, heres ur hash" The version is not important, only the settings - just hash them and for every wrong value - pick the default, for every wrong key - skip it.
Even save it as a name-value dictionary.

For example, i save and get a hash, then u decide to remove the "killing roles" for neutral, and add another role.

Algorithm:
1. Do default values
2. Translate hash, for every key
2.1 if key doesnt exists (for example, key can be "sherif-detect cult") then
2.2. Skip to next key, else
2.3. Take out the value, if value not valid - skip (already have default value there)
2.4. If valid, set the value

Neutral-killing roles not exist anymore, so skip.
New role added - not exist in the hash, will default

Thats it, how cant the engine give Abillity to do this simple Algorithm?

[Dark.Revenant]

Because I have to write the entire database library MYSELF. I have to create the hashing and transmission functions MYSELF. I have to make ALL of the binary data modification and packing functions MYSELF. I have to do the bugfixing and optimization MYSELF. I have to research the language and do R&D on bank structure MYSELF. I have to update, in another database, all of the various changes I do to every role to maintain this compatability... MYSELF.

It's a simple algorithm if you're using a ready-made library or are using SQL. It's not simple at all in Galaxy. And it eats up time later down the line even if I already finished it.

[Account]

Is there a way to put the save into the bank file? Or... something? Anything that would save even only certain parts of a player's save? Mine takes 15+ minutes too.

[Dark.Revenant]

It's really a lot of work for little gain. Fun fact: in the last 12 months I reset saves about seven times.

[Account]

I remember every time.

[arielb]

meh, ok.