S-FM 119 Accursed Ascension

[Banshis]

The Black Abbot
Hidden Lich- Maldetto
Hidden Lich- Brother Nerezza
Hidden Lich- Brother Salasso
Ebberon Hero- Cholthulzz
Ebberon Hero- Cinnis
Ebberon Hero- High Priest of Vol
Ebberon Hero- Mentau
Ebberon Hero
Ebberon Hero
Ebberon Hero
Ebberon Hero
Free Agent


Litany of the Dead
Chaotic Evil Aligned Players are Immune Today

Living Players
1.Ika
2.Mateo
3.TheJester
4.CarolinaCrown
5.Slaol
6.Citrus
7.Orpz
8.Clementine
9._Q2
10.Poriomania
11.Damus_Graves
12.RLVG
13.Kusco

Graveyard
None

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...rsed-Ascension


Day 1 Ends at
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...+9%3A00+pm+cst


7 votes to hammer.
PM if you didn't get a role by any chance.

[Orpz]

-vote TheJester

[Kusco]

How you doing?

[Orpz]

whats up Kusco, break any good balls recently?

[TheJester]

Hey everyone! My first game, and I am excited to play.

[Kusco]

I sorted the role list by alignment (chaotic/lawful good/evil) since it wasn't in the setup. I also translated the RP'd names to something easier to understand):

Lawful good:
Mafia witch
Consigliere
Doctor
Vigilante
Bodyguard
Investigator

Lawful Evil
Consort
Agent
Escort

Chaotic Good:
Framer
Blackmailer
Sheriff
Blacksmith
Town Witch

Chaotic Evil:
Black Abbot
Thief
Detective
Lookout

True Neutral:
Mafia alignment checker
Town alignment checker
ALL NEUTRALS

Citizens can be any alignment.

[Kusco]

whats up Kusco, break any good balls recently?

Just my stress ball. Seems you can actually break those if you talk with an idiot while working on it.

[Orpz]

LOL clearly this isnt a standard setup, brb reading setup

[Kusco]

LOL clearly this isnt a standard setup, brb reading setup

Jesus christ did you not read the setup before signing up?

[TheJester]

Alright, if I was scum, I would try to claim a fake role that match to either my investigative pairing or alignment. If we have an investigator and Druid check the same person each night, we can narrow down the person's role a lot. The Black Abbot doesnt communicate with the other mafia, so we should look out for any buddying and attempting at communication during the day.

[Orpz]

Jesus christ did you not read the setup before signing up?

I thought it was 3-9-1 so I signed up hoping for an imba ez town victory >>

[TheJester]

I also just checked that most roles in same investigative pairing are in the same alignment.

[Orpz]

Anyways fuck I was counting the players and coming up 1 short and then I realized The Black Abbot isn't an alignment name, but a Mafia member

[Damus_Graves]

Jesus christ did you not read the setup before signing up?

It has become the standard now a days. Almost no one reads the setups anymore.
Its why I make games the require a full understanding of mechanics. Changing the meta.

Alright, if I was scum, I would try to claim a fake role that match to either my investigative pairing or alignment. If we have an investigator and Druid check the same person each night, we can narrow down the person's role a lot. The Black Abbot doesnt communicate with the other mafia, so we should look out for any buddying and attempting at communication during the day.

This sounds good in theory but why did you word it this way. When you make a statement like If I am scum, or I am scum as I have done in the past, it lowers the local view of you and tends to discredit things you say. There is a wide difference between suggesting possible scum actions and directly placing yourself in their eyes.

[TheJester]

Orpz - come in without paying attention to the set up and play careless so far - possibly citizen

[clementine]

Hey guys I think we should pressure the new guy and see if he spills the beans.

-vote TheJester

[Orpz]

Hey guys I think we should pressure the new guy and see if he spills the beans.

-vote TheJester

I agree.

Banshis, u forgot to set the lynch number

[Damus_Graves]

Jester, you realize that the plan you just made was ruined because you drew attention to the fall points.

Hi clem. Nice sheeping

[clementine]

Damus, I want to hear you fake claim a random scum role right now.

Do it.

[Poriomania]

Greetings,

I am Poriomania and I am the Inexperienced Challenged (IC) player of this group. What this means is first and foremost - I am here to play this game with you in a way that will show you what it is like to play on SC2Mafia.com I am here to win and should be treated as such.

My goals and the rules governing my actions are covered in this handy article: Being a good IC
That article is part of our amazing SC2Mafia System. I *highly* recommend this system as a good way to get your feet wet and to find out what a lot of the common abbreviations mean. There is a lot of play strategy discussed in there too. A lot of players consider that advice almost all outdated now. I don't recommend trying to run verbatim with anything there, but a lot of the basic advice is very good to at least be aware of as it can help you avoid blatant pitfalls as you become familiar with the game play here.

Now, as an IC I am here as a resource for you to ask questions of concerning game theory. I WILL NOT lie about game theory answers and will answer them to the best of my ability. I will also offer you the following quick pieces of advice;

1. Don't self vote. (there are really no points during a S-FM where this is a good idea, please avoid it however logical you may think it is)
2. This site frowns on lying if you are a citizen role. I strongly advise against lying if you have this role as usually it will only hurt town in the end.
3. It's a game - have fun.

We are now starting what is known as the RVS (random voting stage). We are in a low information period because scum already know who they are, and even have a rough idea of what power roles may or may not be in the game. It is now town's job to root them out. Because the start of the game leaves us with no information to start with generally the way to start is to begin voting and questioning other people to see if you can catch them doing something scummy (scummy actions being acts that a scum player is more likely to do then a town player).

-vote Clementine

RVS vote.

[Orpz]

What the fuck?

[clementine]

Kusco can I call you couscous?
Please?

[Kusco]

Kusco can I call you couscous?
Please?

Why?

[Orpz]

Greetings,

I am Poriomania and I am the Inexperienced Challenged (IC) player of this group. What this means is first and foremost - I am here to play this game with you in a way that will show you what it is like to play on SC2Mafia.com I am here to win and should be treated as such.

My goals and the rules governing my actions are covered in this handy article: Being a good IC
That article is part of our amazing SC2Mafia System. I *highly* recommend this system as a good way to get your feet wet and to find out what a lot of the common abbreviations mean. There is a lot of play strategy discussed in there too. A lot of players consider that advice almost all outdated now. I don't recommend trying to run verbatim with anything there, but a lot of the basic advice is very good to at least be aware of as it can help you avoid blatant pitfalls as you become familiar with the game play here.

Now, as an IC I am here as a resource for you to ask questions of concerning game theory. I WILL NOT lie about game theory answers and will answer them to the best of my ability. I will also offer you the following quick pieces of advice;

1. Don't self vote. (there are really no points during a S-FM where this is a good idea, please avoid it however logical you may think it is)
2. This site frowns on lying if you are a citizen role. I strongly advise against lying if you have this role as usually it will only hurt town in the end.
3. It's a game - have fun.

We are now starting what is known as the RVS (random voting stage). We are in a low information period because scum already know who they are, and even have a rough idea of what power roles may or may not be in the game. It is now town's job to root them out. Because the start of the game leaves us with no information to start with generally the way to start is to begin voting and questioning other people to see if you can catch them doing something scummy (scummy actions being acts that a scum player is more likely to do then a town player).

-vote Clementine

RVS vote.

r u a robot

pls define wifom

[Poriomania]

WIFOMproducts®

WIFOMproducts® are a line of convenience products which have grown significantly in popularity over the past few years. They are sold mostly to conniving scum, but can also be pawned off on stupid townies if an opportunity presents itself. Invariably, each of these products is inherently rich in WIFOM content, being heavily prescribed by medical doctors and psychologists alike. In some instances, certain WIFOMproducts® have been known to cause serious side effects such as decreasing constructive mental activity, causing altercations between users, and notably, creating pointlessly cyclical arguments which can only lead to even more WIFOM. Great care should be taken whenever using these products, and they should be used only as advised.

[clementine]

2. This site frowns on lying if you are a citizen role. I strongly advise against lying if you have this role as usually it will only hurt town in the end.

Questions:
1. How do you feel about a lynch all liars policy?
2. Are you saying that only citizen lies hurt the town/PRs should lie?
3. Do you believe all lies told by citizens can only hurt the town?

[TheJester]

It has become the standard now a days. Almost no one reads the setups anymore.
Its why I make games the require a full understanding of mechanics. Changing the meta.




This sounds good in theory but why did you word it this way. When you make a statement like If I am scum, or I am scum as I have done in the past, it lowers the local view of you and tends to discredit things you say. There is a wide difference between suggesting possible scum actions and directly placing yourself in their eyes.

The way I worded this to see how would scums think. I would like to be a few steps ahead of them.

[Damus_Graves]

Damus, I want to hear you fake claim a random scum role right now.

Do it.

Im the Black Abbot.

Now that thats over with why didn't you acknowledge my comment on your vote yet?

[clementine]

Why?

Because.

Give answer now as it will greatly impact my read on you this game.

[clementine]

You have 5

[clementine]

Counting down... 4

[clementine]

Counting down... 3

[Orpz]

TheJester and _Q2 are Town because they are new players

[clementine]

Counting down... 2

[clementine]

Counting down... 1

[Poriomania]

Questions:
1. How do you feel about a lynch all liars policy?
2. Are you saying that only citizen lies hurt the town/PRs should lie?
3. Do you believe all lies told by citizens can only hurt the town?

1. Once upon a time, the world of mafia believed implicitly in a golden rule: lynch all liars (LAL). But as time rolled on, rogue analysts and daredevils demonstrated decisively that LAL should not be considered an immutable law. Deceit and cunning are not only the province of the mafia, but sometimes of the town.

...

The best and safest rule is that a townie should only lie or gambit when there is absolutely nothing to be lost by doing so.

2. See 1.

3. See 1.

[Kusco]

You have 5

minutes?

No you can't call me that. It would be confusing. Can't have that going around.

[clementine]

beep beep beep beep beep

[Orpz]

Kusco is pressured easily this game. He is scum.

[Damus_Graves]

Well Clem is obvs not Red this game.
No Red in their right mind is this........abnormal.

[Orpz]

Town meta on him = any pressure on him results in him cussing u out

[Orpz]

-vote Kusco

[TheJester]

TheJester and _Q2 are Town because they are new players

What if I told you, I am the jester?

[clementine]

The best and safest rule is that a townie should only lie or gambit when there is absolutely nothing to be lost by doing so.

To quote Living Player #5;

Go on

[Poriomania]

Difference between SC2Mafia and other sites.
SC2 focuses on scum hunting
Other sites focus on PR hunting scum

/2char

[Poriomania]

RQS (Random Questioning Stage)

1. Time zone?
2. Walls of text or short posts (style of posting in general)?
3. Town or scum and why?
4. Should lurkers/antitown newbs etc. be policy lynched?
5. How often (approximately) do you anticipate posting?

[Orpz]

What if I told you, I am the jester?

I counterclaim because I am an Amnesiac

[Kusco]

This is too silly. Orpz and Clem both seem high on something to me. Jester is new and Porio is an android? Damus is idk right now. Get back to me on that.

[Orpz]

Meta on me = I claim Neutral when Neutral

I am Neutral this game please let me live thx

[TheJester]

I counterclaim because I am an Amnesiac

Then you wouldn't hesitate to lynch me.

This is too silly. Orpz and Clem both seem high on something to me. Jester is new and Porio is an android? Damus is idk right now. Get back to me on that.

-vote Kusco

Wow! What a scum!