S-FM 118: The Tyranny of Mad King George

[Azuriae]

S-FM: The Tyranny of Mad King George
Game Thread

[Azuriae]

Day 1: Awakening

[No RP today because I'm way busy. Deal with it.]

Rolelist:

The Mad Bluecoats

King George Washington, Wielder of the Apple of Eden
[The Mad King]
General Isreal Putnam
[Hidden Bluecoat]
General Benedict Arnold
[Hidden Bluecoat]

The Resistance

Ratonhnaké:ton/Connor Kenway
[Hidden Villager]
Kanen'tó:kon, Village Chief
[Hidden Villager]
Kaniehtí:io, Connor's Mother
[Hidden Villager]
Oiá:ner, The Clan Mother
[Hidden Villager]
Kahionhaténion, Spirit Brother
[Hidden Villager]
Teiowí:sonte, Spirit Brother
[Hidden Villager]
Samuel Adams, Leader of the Resistance
[Hidden Villager]
The Great Spirit
[The Willow Tree]


Benjamin Franklin, Broken Polymath
[Hidden Neutral]

Robert Faulkner, Pirate Extraordinaire
[Hidden Neutral]

Alive Players: 13

Banshis
Bruno
Bunny
CarolinaCrown
Citrus
Damus_Graves
Mateo
Noctiz
Orpz
Poriomania
RLVG
Slaol
TheDarkestLight


Graveyard:
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7 votes to hammer.

Setup
The day will end at this time

[Citrus]

First!

Have I played with you before?

-vote Bruno

Had some free time prior to this game starting, so some stuff I came up with below.

Last will recommendations:

Please keep track of what powers you voted via PM in your last wills. It may end up being useful later on in the game should you die.

Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper

I have answers to these questions already, but I would like to see others' thoughts/want to wait a bit before posting them.

Setup questions:

If the Willow Tree dies, is it random which player receives which power? Or predetermined?
ex: Neutrals are Serial Killer and Jester, Serial Killer receives the power if alive and Willow Tree dies, otherwise Jester receives power.
Can both the PM vote and public vote be for the same power?
If there is a tie in power votes (ex: 3-way tie), will the selected powers be random among the tie?
Jester visit is stated to have no effect. Can a jester visit contribute to the 2 neutral visits required to kill the Willow Tree?
Does Sheriff determine whether someone is exactly neutral, exactly bluecoat, or just that they are not town/willow tree?
Does jailing a bluecoat cause them to lose their mafia nightchat?
Can a witch make the Willow Tree gives himself powers or does noone get the power that night?


Things to point out:
a) Journalist is easily confirmable with no similar evil role. Would make a great target for Willow Tree powers.
b) Kidnapper and Jailor both get 1 execution

[Orpz]

-vote Bruno

I volunteer for Town leader. Soon as I finish my hw.

[Orpz]

-vote Power of the Eagle

no brainer for this one

Thinking of Pack or Wolf for the other vote.

[Azuriae]

Setup questions:

If the Willow Tree dies, is it random which player receives which power? Or predetermined?
ex: Neutrals are Serial Killer and Jester, Serial Killer receives the power if alive and Willow Tree dies, otherwise Jester receives power.
It is random. One living player of each ''faction'' will receive a power.
Can both the PM vote and public vote be for the same power?
No.
If there is a tie in power votes (ex: 3-way tie), will the selected powers be random among the tie?
Yes. Best not make this happen, hm?
Jester visit is stated to have no effect. Can a jester visit contribute to the 2 neutral visits required to kill the Willow Tree?
No. Jester is not a Neutral Evil.
Does Sheriff determine whether someone is exactly neutral, exactly bluecoat, or just that they are not town/willow tree?
He will learn if they are Evil Neutral or a Bluecoat.
Does jailing a bluecoat cause them to lose their mafia nightchat?
Yes.
Can a witch make the Willow Tree gives himself powers or does noone get the power that night?
A Witch would make this happen.

[TheDarkestLight]

-vote Bruno

I volunteer for Town leader. Soon as I finish my hw.

-vote Orpz

I never liked when people come out and ask it, always seemed scummy.

[Poriomania]

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today

Spoiler : img :

[Orpz]

-vote Orpz

I never liked when people come out and ask it, always seemed scummy.

It's not really a request. Think of it as a warning of my eventual takeover.

[Poriomania]

It's not really a request. Think of it as a warning of my eventual takeover.

[spoiler=img][/img]

[Bunny]

Hellohelloo everyone!

[TheDarkestLight]

Last will recommendations:


Please keep track of what powers you voted via PM in your last wills. It may end up being useful later on in the game should you die.

No brainer.

Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?


Town Role basically. Fills multiple roles, likely we don't have a Vigilante as he fills the killing spot. Pretty much invulnerable as unless he just flat out claims I doubt he will die any time soon...

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

Mad King -derp- Kidnapper, Framer.

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

Electromaniac and Amnesiac

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

Three or four due to the Willow Tree filling multiple roles.

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

We might not have an investigative due to the tree. Probably not a Jailor due to Willow Tree, and the Kidnapper could confuse us into thinking he is a legit Jailor since he is the only one jailing.

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper

Lynch if necessary.

There.

[Poriomania]

Hellohelloo everyone!

Spoiler : img :

[Orpz]

Azuriae pls turn off autoplay

[TheDarkestLight]

It's not really a request. Think of it as a warning of my eventual takeover.

#notgonnahappen

[TheDarkestLight]

Azuriae pls turn off autoplay

This, I'm trying to listen to music and when I refresh I keep getting this song popping up...

[TheDarkestLight]

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Since I believe we might not have any investigative roles...

[Damus_Graves]

good morning.

Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.

Orpz, Thats fine if you wanna be town leader. Why did you vote Bruno?

@Sheep, why did you follow onto the Bruno vote.


Hello Bunny

[TheDarkestLight]

Spoiler : img :

Contribute with words. I swear to god if you use pictures...

[Orpz]

good morning.

Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.

Orpz, Thats fine if you wanna be town leader. Why did you vote Bruno?

@Sheep, why did you follow onto the Bruno vote.


Hello Bunny

Haven't played an FM with him before, and he was online at the time.
It was a good opportunity to see how he'd react.

[Damus_Graves]

@Host
Turn off the Autoplay if you don't mind. Its to troubling to hear.

[Damus_Graves]

-vote Power of the Eagle

[Orpz]

Upon further thinking, I suggest voting for the vest in private.

The 1-time Immune doesn't seem at all that useful, but I'm not thinking much about it. Plus, it can potentially nullify the Eagle power.

As per not voting the gun, we don't know how competent the Willow Tree is, so I'd rather not trust him to pass a gun tonight.

[Poriomania]

Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.

Contribute with words. I swear to god if you use pictures...

Haven't played an FM with him before, and he was online at the time.
It was a good opportunity to see how he'd react.

-vote Power of the Eagle

-vote Power of the Pack

[TheDarkestLight]

Upon further thinking, I suggest voting for the vest in private.

The 1-time Immune doesn't seem at all that useful, but I'm not thinking much about it. Plus, it can potentially nullify the Eagle power.

As per not voting the gun, we don't know how competent the Willow Tree is, so I'd rather not trust him to pass a gun tonight.

To add to this. Vests only hurt the Mafia, since I doubt we have a killing role, also I don't plan on voting for a gun anytime soon.

[TheDarkestLight]

-vote Power of the Pack

-vote Poriomania

1: Use words.
2: Guns will only hurt the town at this point, only scum would want guns out.

[Poriomania]

To add to this. Vests only hurt the Mafia, since I doubt we have a killing role, also I don't plan on voting for a gun anytime soon.

[Poriomania]

-vote Poriomania

1: Use words.
2: Guns will only hurt the town at this point, only scum would want guns out.

[Orpz]

-vote Poriomania

Lynch number isn't set btw (@Host)

[Damus_Graves]

He is playing at Jester.

[Damus_Graves]

I actually cannot see the intelligence in that course of action this early.

[Poriomania]

-vote Poriomania

Lynch number isn't set btw (@Host)

[TheDarkestLight]

As to the question of a day 1 lynch. I am all for it on this guy if he keeps up with his method of communication.

I highly doubt he is a Jester, only a stupid one of a gambit one would keep this going.

[TheDarkestLight]

As to the question of a day 1 lynch. I am all for it on this guy if he keeps up with his method of communication.

I highly doubt he is a Jester, only a stupid one or a gambit one would keep this going.

Fixed.

Anyways, I'll be back in the morning.

[Poriomania]

Fixed.

Anyways, I'll be back in the morning.

[Damus_Graves]

Yeah I don't care for this behavior.

-vote Poriomania

[Orpz]

Porio's a reserve on M-FM Voodoo. In that game, there's a player who posts only in pictures. According to some of the posts on the game about that player , that person isn't considered to be a good lynch candidate.

I'd expect Porio to be following that game as a reserve. Therefore I believe he would suspect that posting in pictures would not get him lynched, which is counterproductive to Jester.

So I don't think he's a Jester.

inb4 level 10 wifom manipulator

[CarolinaCrown]

Porio's a reserve on M-FM Voodoo. In that game, there's a player who posts only in pictures. According to some of the posts on the game about that player , that person isn't considered to be a good lynch candidate.

I'd expect Porio to be following that game as a reserve. Therefore I believe he would suspect that posting in pictures would not get him lynched, which is counterproductive to Jester.

So I don't think he's a Jester.

inb4 level 10 wifom manipulator

Jester was my first thought, not because of the pictures but because of the power vote. Then there was WIFOM. Now I kind of think he's a Jester again.

Then again, the pictures are pissing me off. Nothing wrong with a little pressure eh?

-vote Poriomania

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Yeah a pretty obvious choice. And pack is a pretty obvious non-choice.

[Poriomania]

Cool, got some reactions.

Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.

Yeah, I wasn't planning to continue them once the initial phases of Day 1 ended.

Contribute with words. I swear to god if you use pictures...

Fair, fair.

There will be a noticeable drop in wordiness than usual, though - not planning to spend hours doing readwalls after Workplace.

Haven't played an FM with him before, and he was online at the time.
It was a good opportunity to see how he'd react.

I like this post - solid town reasoning of hunting for reactions, which I was doing, in a slightly less provocative way.

-vote Poriomania

1: Use words.
2: Guns will only hurt the town at this point, only scum would want guns out.

1. Okay.
2. Yep, did that for reactions as well.

Tell me - why would I vote for the vig power?

-vote Poriomania

Lynch number isn't set btw (@Host)

Reasoning?

He is playing at Jester.

Reasoning?

Walk me through it.

Porio's a reserve on M-FM Voodoo. In that game, there's a player who posts only in pictures. According to some of the posts on the game about that player , that person isn't considered to be a good lynch candidate.

I'd expect Porio to be following that game as a reserve. Therefore I believe he would suspect that posting in pictures would not get him lynched, which is counterproductive to Jester.

So I don't think he's a Jester.

inb4 level 10 wifom manipulator

I actually started the image post restriction thing, in Avatar as Due. (Though COMs haven't been revealed)

Though this is a good theory for my initial Day 1 actions!

And pack is a pretty obvious non-choice.

Reasoning? Why wouldn't you want Pack?

[Poriomania]

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

2. Role list speculation?

This is all useless in a vacuum.

What do you think of my actions, and are they worthy of a vote?

I defer to this: https://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/KXt8Eu3UPWi6 for questions and comments.

[Mateo]

-vote citrus

his first post was all filler no killer, a vote, then poof

[Poriomania]

-vote citrus

his first post was all filler no killer, a vote, then poof

What do you think of the votes on me?

What do you think about my Power of the Pack voting?

[Poriomania]

Well Orpz is town.

[Poriomania]

See?

[CarolinaCrown]

First!

Have I played with you before?

-vote Bruno

Had some free time prior to this game starting, so some stuff I came up with below.

Last will recommendations:

Please keep track of what powers you voted via PM in your last wills. It may end up being useful later on in the game should you die.

Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper

I have answers to these questions already, but I would like to see others' thoughts/want to wait a bit before posting them.

Setup questions:

If the Willow Tree dies, is it random which player receives which power? Or predetermined?
ex: Neutrals are Serial Killer and Jester, Serial Killer receives the power if alive and Willow Tree dies, otherwise Jester receives power.
Can both the PM vote and public vote be for the same power?
If there is a tie in power votes (ex: 3-way tie), will the selected powers be random among the tie?
Jester visit is stated to have no effect. Can a jester visit contribute to the 2 neutral visits required to kill the Willow Tree?
Does Sheriff determine whether someone is exactly neutral, exactly bluecoat, or just that they are not town/willow tree?
Does jailing a bluecoat cause them to lose their mafia nightchat?
Can a witch make the Willow Tree gives himself powers or does noone get the power that night?


Things to point out:
a) Journalist is easily confirmable with no similar evil role. Would make a great target for Willow Tree powers.
b) Kidnapper and Jailor both get 1 execution

1. Eagle is obviously the best choice today.
Are powers time-sensitive? i.e. if granted a power, can a player save it for later?
I also see no reason not to organize hidden PM votes.

2. Sorry I don't do setup guesses - I prefer contingencies. I don't like getting stuck on an inaccurate theory. I think any valuable "discussion" that role list speculation generates can be generated better elsewhere.

3. I think we should lynch today. More votes, more information, more the Willow Tree can analyze to choose the best target to receive the power. I'm betting those power targets are going to make a big difference.


@Poriomania I think Pack is an obvious non-choice because town killing powers tend to be more harmful than helpful early game. It might be a more valid choice depending on the answer to the above setup question.

[Orpz]

See?

What a happy coincidence :'D

[Banshis]

Ok I am here. Read through everything and I can sort of see what Porio did. The votes piled on him very fast though so I have a towny vibe from him.

-Vote Power of the Eagle

[Azuriae]

Are powers time-sensitive? i.e. if granted a power, can a player save it for later?

Players may save their powers for later; they do not expire.

[Mateo]

What do you think of the votes on me?

What do you think about my Power of the Pack voting?

i would have voted you too if i was here while u were still doing it, and i dont think guns need to be out right now, though power of the wolf seems the least useful right now

[Poriomania]

2. Sorry I don't do setup guesses - I prefer contingencies. I don't like getting stuck on an inaccurate theory. I think any valuable "discussion" that role list speculation generates can be generated better elsewhere.

3. I think we should lynch today. More votes, more information, more the Willow Tree can analyze to choose the best target to receive the power. I'm betting those power targets are going to make a big difference.

On the topic of general mafia theory I agree with this. I love lynching and hate speculating on role lists.

@Poriomania I think Pack is an obvious non-choice because town killing powers tend to be more harmful than helpful early game. It might be a more valid choice depending on the answer to the above setup question.

Hmm, really?

My first thought when thinking about Power of the Pack was "OH YES TWO TOWN CONTROLLED LYNCHES, PLUS ANALYZING VOTES AND INFORMATION IN EACH ONE"

While shooting (and giving it!) blindly isn't going to do any favors, there's no denying the power of (functionally!) double lynching every other Day.

Thoughts?