SFM 102: A Community of Unfortunate Events

[ika]

Nah. I like us having separate interests. He hasn't really asked much about it anyway. If he shows interest, I'll have him sign up though.

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LOL, we'll start FoSing each other soon enough probably.

for the second part it will happen edventally i know damus handpicks players and probally handpicked who he gave them out to. now the question becomes what did he give you. antoher thing to wonder is who is static alignment and who is variable alignments......

[Banshis]

Hmm I find it odd that Ganon is trolling. I know it is day 1 and no lynch, but he doesn't strike me as a player that really would mess around on day 1 and just troll. The Titus train is pointless in my eyes. I would think Ganon would try to help contribute even on a no lynch day. I could just be reading this wrong, but he still doesn't strike me as a player who messes around.

[ika]

Hmm I find it odd that Ganon is trolling. I know it is day 1 and no lynch, but he doesn't strike me as a player that really would mess around on day 1 and just troll. The Titus train is pointless in my eyes. I would think Ganon would try to help contribute even on a no lynch day. I could just be reading this wrong, but he still doesn't strike me as a player who messes around.

like i said even those who dont contribute/talk on a nonlycnch day are saying something without knownig.

[ika]

anway im off to the land of youtube

[Banshis]

Well lets see what I have picked up just on the couple posts we have had today. Some of these are my thoughts and others are recaps.

Nick- Asked a lot of questions to figure out game more. Didn't troll at all. Lots of questions on the variables. Voted Titus. Guessing he is a variable.

ika- Trolled first part of day. Added to discussion on day 1. Voted on Titus train. Probably town.

Creedkingsx- Troll, but shows he doesn't like a day 1 without lynch and he knows town is slow. Doesn't add anything though. Don't know his playstle.

Chane- No posts yet. Lurk

Muso- Trolled. Says he can't think of anything to do. Could have asked questions or tried to start a conversation. 1st game with him so I don't know his playstyle at all.

Ganondorf- Usually a serious player and day 1 trolling by him and him voting on the Titus train doesn't seem like his normal Pro-Town Self.

Titus- Defends against the troll train. Agrees with Ika's statement.

Slaol- Starts train on Titus. Then goes lurkmode. If Ika is right then your watching this now Slaol. Claims escort to get at Titus.

Glip- No posts yet.

Not very good yet, but not a lot has happened today yet.

[Ganondorf]

Hmm I find it odd that Ganon is trolling. I know it is day 1 and no lynch, but he doesn't strike me as a player that really would mess around on day 1 and just troll. The Titus train is pointless in my eyes. I would think Ganon would try to help contribute even on a no lynch day. I could just be reading this wrong, but he still doesn't strike me as a player who messes around.

Usually right, except for 2 things:
A) I'm still in SFM 100 mode and I'm fed up that Titus died in a duel, I didn't get to participate (due to the Sen/Orpz N1 kill), and Titus was actually town and Slaol's early vote gave me a very convenient outlet to express that in. Although I kinda made her into my archnemesis, I actually found that I thoroughly enjoy playing with her and I don't mind poking fun when appropriate.
B) Today is a no lynch day, and while you can certainly glean information from pretty much any situation, there's no real need or urgency to today. In SFM 100, day 1 was a lynch day and, in the absence of power roles, there was a definite need to make observations and accusations and hopefully force people to take sides. With the glorious return of power roles and the addition of the static/variable/leader mechanic, the game won't be so focused on scumhunting alone and I feel more than content to "troll" a little on day 1 (just like almost everyone else).

[Titus]

Well lets see what I have picked up just on the couple posts we have had today. Some of these are my thoughts and others are recaps.

Nick- Asked a lot of questions to figure out game more. Didn't troll at all. Lots of questions on the variables. Voted Titus. Guessing he is a variable.

ika- Trolled first part of day. Added to discussion on day 1. Voted on Titus train. Probably town.

Creedkingsx- Troll, but shows he doesn't like a day 1 without lynch and he knows town is slow. Doesn't add anything though. Don't know his playstle.

Chane- No posts yet. Lurk

Muso- Trolled. Says he can't think of anything to do. Could have asked questions or tried to start a conversation. 1st game with him so I don't know his playstyle at all.

Ganondorf- Usually a serious player and day 1 trolling by him and him voting on the Titus train doesn't seem like his normal Pro-Town Self.

Titus- Defends against the troll train. Agrees with Ika's statement.

Slaol- Starts train on Titus. Then goes lurkmode. If Ika is right then your watching this now Slaol. Claims escort to get at Titus.

Glip- No posts yet.

Not very good yet, but not a lot has happened today yet.

Banshis - Provides thread recap.

@Ganondorf - That's ok. I collect nemesis around here. I got Slaol and ika at a minimum. We all like each other outside of games though.

[ika]

Banshis - Provides thread recap.

@Ganondorf - That's ok. I collect nemesis around here. I got Slaol and ika at a minimum. We all like each other outside of games though.

not sure if i could say the same for slaol outside. but yes outside of the game em and titus are fine.

[Banshis]

I was reading the set-up and since killers are half value tonight nobody should die unless someone visits the mm target and the sk hits that person making it -1. Chances are though that no one will die. The mm or sk could potentially end up accidently roleblocking the other since no one is immune at night.

@Ganon- I see what you mean, but PR wise we only have a doc/invest and a possible witch.

@Ika- You mean Slaol to you outside games or Slaol to Titus outside of games?

[Nick]

Full OoO please

[ika]

I was reading the set-up and since killers are half value tonight nobody should die unless someone visits the mm target and the sk hits that person making it -1. Chances are though that no one will die. The mm or sk could potentially end up accidently roleblocking the other since no one is immune at night.

@Ganon- I see what you mean, but PR wise we only have a doc/invest and a possible witch.

@Ika- You mean Slaol to you outside games or Slaol to Titus outside of games?

slaol and me are freind outside of the game as well. i dont think slaol woudl consider titus a freind outside of the game.

to me i do consider titus a freind outside of game. its just that im a very diffrent person in game vs outsdie of game.

if you were to meet me in real life you would be surprised how diffrent i am

[ika]

do the static/variable roles know if they are static/variable or not?

[ika]

you know i have read this setup more and more and i think i figured out the reasonign behind most of these things on how his mechnaics work and everything. i need some time to wirte it down though its intresting what i think damus was tring to accomplish with this setup

[Nick]

Am I correct to say that:

Variable can choose new role/alignment (eg. choosing SK role means alignment became evil)
Leaders can change role/alignment of Variables (eg. locking evil Witch into town Doctor since Doctor can only be town)
Then where does host prechosen roles come in?

[Nick]

What does "gridlock a player to a {prechosen {by host alignment}, static, a variable role of their choice" mean?
It changes a Variable player to a Static player, their alignment gets determined by me before the game starts.

For Leaders: How does recruit choices work? PM me choice between changing alignment or role and the targeted players name.

I don't understand how to correlate both.

[Nick]

@Banshis

Pro-tip. I have WIFOM Level 4.

So no. I'm not Variable. I'm speaking the truth because I'm Town. Town will never lie.

[Titus]

@Banshis

Pro-tip. I have WIFOM Level 4.

So no. I'm not Variable. I'm speaking the truth because I'm Town. Town will never lie.

I lied a lot as confirmed town in M-FM 18. Lying has its place. But here, it would probably be more deadly.

[Nick]

Perhaps I should phrase it as: Town will never make self-defeating lie / will only make lies that benefit Town.

[Muso]

I'm not sure i know how to scum-hunt when:

1. nothing has happened
2. none of the scum know each other
3. people can change alignments
4. today isn't even a real lynch day

[Nick]

Investigator can determine whom to check
Doctor can determine whom to heal
Serial Killer and MM can determine whom to visit
Witch can decide whom to witch, whether to stay as Witch and discourage killer from visiting
Variable Citizens can decide whether to stay as Citizen and discourage killer from visiting
Citizens can acts as any of the above

[Damus_Graves]

Thank you all for not posting after the day was supposed to end. I applaud your trustworthyness in that regard. The Night is starting now and ends in 24 hours

{1:33 AM CST}

[Damus_Graves]

6 votes to hammer.
The morning rose on a bloodless street showing the world that things aren't always gritty and dark...for the time being of course.

1. Nick
2. ika
3. Banshis
4. Creedkingsx
5. Chane
6. Muso
7. Ganondorf
8. Titus
9. Slaol
10. Glip

Chane and Glip have an offical warning to begin participating in the game or face replacement!

[creedkingsx]

Morning.

[Muso]

Morning.

Morning.

[Ganondorf]

Good morning everyone. After hitting up the bar with the guys (and Titus), I returned home and had an otherwise peaceful night (not roleblocked).

[Muso]

Good morning

Morning.

[Titus]

Ugh. I had one too many but an otherwise peaceful night (no feedback).

[creedkingsx]

Alcohol is fun.

[Banshis]

No feedback here either.

[Nick]

Investigator {Leader}
Citizen {Static}
Citizen {Static}
Serial Killer {Variable}
Serial Killer {Variable}
Citizen {Static}
Doctor {Static}
Mass Murder {Leader}
Serial Killer {Static}
Doctor/Witch {Variable}

The role list today.

Since we cannot do mass role claim, we should consider doing a partial role claim.
Eg. Only Doctor/Witch claims or only Citizen/SK claims.

DISCUSS.

I prefer Doctor/Witch claims.

[Nick]

Will Chane and Glip be replaced mid-day if they still do not post?

I would have shared my reads if not for both of them.

@Titus
Please share your thoughts about how Investigator can win?

@Ganondorf
Who should die tonight?

[ika]

nothing happened to me.

-vote titus

im gonna take a nap and then be at work but i might be able to come on its almost 7 in morn here and i was up till late (like always)

[Nick]

Minimum posts per day = 5

Day1 posts

Nick - iiiiiiiiiiiiiii
ika - iiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Banshis - iiiiiii
Creedkingsx - iiiii
Chane
Muso - iiii
Ganondorf - iiii
Titus - iiiiiiiiii
Slaol - iiiiiii
Glip

-vote Glip

[Nick]

Sigh... another lurkfest cult game. This is boring...

[ika]

is there soemthing you would like to dicuss with me? im mildly here

[Nick]

Who should we lynch today?
Choose four players to be killed tonight (can only kill 2, but choose 4 to counter MM)

Should Investigator reveal today?

[Nick]

@Slaol
Suggest how Investigator should deal with evil neutral Serial Killer.
Explain the best winning strategy for evil neutral Serial Killer.

[Titus]

@Nick, I don't know why you asked me about an investigator but I will answer.Sort of. An investigator needs to convince people to play as protown as possible and use lynches on those he hasn't cleared. Target those fixed against him. However, a witch/doctor would be unlikely to claim without having the SK eliminated. The SK is however the town's KPN. Citizens might want to claim. I'd imagine everyone would claim cit though. It's hard to plan victory without knowing the pieces.

[ika]

one sec i need to look at setup and see

[ika]

heres what i think.

we might lynch titus becasue her last post implies she not a citizen becasue she beieves everyone will claim it. i think i understand why nick is asking the questions because of his role as well.

my lycnh would be on titus/creed

as for who would probally die? that i have yet to decided on. it wouldnt surprise me if i was killed in the folloing night.

[ika]

hmmmmmm

-vote titus

something not settling right here

[Nick]

An investigator needs to convince people to play as protown as possible and use lynches on those he hasn't cleared.

Then should Investigator claim now and lead town? And how does Investigator even clear people?

Target those fixed against him.

Reasoning?

However, a witch/doctor would be unlikely to claim without having the SK eliminated.

Don't understand? Why afraid of SK?

The SK is however the town's KPN. Citizens might want to claim. I'd imagine everyone would claim cit though. It's hard to plan victory without knowing the pieces.

You suggest roleclaiming starting with Citizens? Static Citizens you mean?

[Nick]

@Muso
Please explain Doctor/Witch strategy. Thanks.

[ika]

nick you are aware that citizens dont know if they are static or not right?

i think i understand what you are and what you are trying to say i will wait on it though

[Nick]

nick you are aware that citizens dont know if they are static or not right?

that is, unless you are saying you are not a citizen

Obviously I'm not.

[ika]

Obviously I'm not.

i know and i understand what you are doing now. i would like to hear what titus will claim becasue she seems to have hinted she is not citizen either. look at post 88. refers to invest as he, titus is a female, ttius says eveyone will claim cits implying she is not a citizen

I don't know why you asked me about an investigator but I will answer.Sort of. An investigator needs to convince people to play as protown as possible and use lynches on those he hasn't cleared. Target those fixed against him. However, a witch/doctor would be unlikely to claim without having the SK eliminated. The SK is however the town's KPN. Citizens might want to claim. I'd imagine everyone would claim cit though. It's hard to plan victory without knowing the pieces.

this that i find most important about it

[Nick]

@Banshis
Should we or should we not lynch Witch?

[Nick]

Day 2 midpoint

Nick - iiiiiiiiii
ika - iiiiiii
Banshis - i
Creedkingsx - ii
Chane -
Muso - ii
Ganondorf - i
Titus - ii
Slaol -
Glip -

[Titus]

@Nick, static citizens are most likely MM targets. All cits claim or none do. Given my last post, where it should be obvious I claim citizen, I am against claiming because everyone's claiming a citizen.

[ika]

@Nick, static citizens are most likely MM targets. All cits claim or none do. Given my last post, where it should be obvious I claim citizen, I am against claiming because everyone's claiming a citizen.

lolz typical titus. you claim cit yet say you are agianst it? that doesnt settle right with me. you inactiveity is also smoething i dont like uslally when you are citizen you want to leade right now you are not leading. levaing me thinking you are not a citizen