M-FM XIX The Curse of Castle Varen Gamethread

[Tommy Calhoun]

I'm being shot tonight to frame you?
Seriously, kid, you aren't that important. i think I've called out more than half of the scum at this point. Nobody gives a fuck about you. Stop trying to deflect attention from the topic. You're doing it wrong.

[Roland Chang]

I'm being shot tonight to frame you?
Seriously, kid, you aren't that important. i think I've called out more than half of the scum at this point. Nobody gives a fuck about you. Stop trying to deflect attention from the topic. You're doing it wrong.

Calling names and add scummy to them isn't considered analysing gameplay. Like i said go play some more s-FM's then come back.
How do you want to play a game if you can't even control your emotions. ^_^"

[Tommy Calhoun]

And you keep trying to deflect attention. I guess I'll just ignore your posts entirely.

More votes on Tom, please.

[Roland Chang]

And you keep trying to deflect attention. I guess I'll just ignore your posts entirely.

More votes on Tom, please.

Lol ok. Your wish is my command

-vote Tommy Calhoun

[Max Jets]

Stop trying. (:

Stop beeing bad

[Dr Jordan Edilstein]

Love the rage fest.

[Max Jets]

And you keep trying to deflect attention. I guess I'll just ignore your posts entirely.

More votes on Tom, please.

Why the rush? we still have over 30 hours befeore the day ends and he is L3 allready.

[Roland Chang]

Love the rage fest.

ME too

Why the rush? we still have over 30 hours befeore the day ends and he is L3 allready.

So he doesn't get executed tonight?

[Uncle Kappy]

OMG I don't want to have a repeat of Day One.

Chill the fuck out. If you can't add your input in calmly and without insult, then I'm considering that you are derailing the day chat.

[Pete Pendelman]

Hello everyone, I have returned. Nothing happened to me last night.

Also, I didn't know the day had started already I've been working all day and I have to catch up.

[Tommy Calhoun]

Chill the fuck out.
If you can't add your input in calmly and without insult...

lolwut?

[Uncle Kappy]

lolwut?

Trying to get your attention : D

>.>
<.<

shhh I know its hypocritical

[Roland Chang]

Love the rage fest.

OMG I don't want to have a repeat of Day One.

Chill the fuck out. If you can't add your input in calmly and without insult, then I'm considering that you are derailing the day chat.

Stop trying to earn town points with obvious filler pro town posts like 85% of your contributing. This really grinds my gears...

[Pete Pendelman]

You just said the same thing as Rashid did T.T

Until a bigger lynch target appears.

-vote Tom Yabo

Also, even if he flips Jester, we know that Pete will be a safe lynch.

Me? Why me? How would I be a safe lynch?

This just hit me... if we think Max was jailed by an interrogator, he is most likely not a mafia.

Oh, that's even better then My fears are allayed. Only thing now is the problem of Interrogator. Do we really believe it was Interrogator who jailed Max?

We can't sure for sure, obviously. But I honestly am not sure, as is everyone else. I would say a jailor because if it was an interrogator, wouldn't he have killed? Although, he did say that he claimed a useless role so he wouldn't waste a lynch on a non-PR (claim).

I'm torn.

I'll post some analysis in a bit.

[Tom Yabo]

Nothing happened to me.

Anti-Disguiser message:
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Also, why did Ricky not leave a LW? We all had agreed literally just yesterday that we should all LW our roles in case we were Tailored. I'd like to be optimistic and think that he forgot and was tailored, but if he wasn't.. :/ Can I request that the Agent(s) still alive put in his/her/their LW whether or not Ricky was the Agent? Please and thank you.

anti disguiser message? how does this work?

[Tommy Calhoun]

if it was an interrogator, wouldn't he have killed?

Au contraire: why would anyone let Max live after a citizen claim?

[Tom Yabo]

Me? Why me? How would I be a safe lynch?





We can't sure for sure, obviously. But I honestly am not sure, as is everyone else. I would say a jailor because if it was an interrogator, wouldn't he have killed? Although, he did say that he claimed a useless role so he wouldn't waste a lynch on a non-PR (claim).

I'm torn.

I'll post some analysis in a bit.

Mafia usually say "Why me?" when someone fos you

[Tommy Calhoun]

Why would a jailor*


Also... Updated list:

Corrupt/Journalist -> Sidney
Architect -> Tommy / Charles
Banshee -> Ricky
Mafia -> Laura
Jailor/Interrogator -> Max
??? -> Elisha
Nothing (no feedback) -> Ace, Rashid, Edilstein, Baxter, Pepper, Kappy, Tom, Sholanda, Pete.

[Tom Yabo]

Mafia usually say "Why me?" when someone fos you

Actually nevermind, Sinclair did that once and he was town or something.

[Uncle Kappy]

Stop trying to earn town points with obvious filler pro town posts like 85% of your contributing. This really grinds my gears...

Because attacking every player adds more to the town?

[Roland Chang]

Because attacking every player adds more to the town?

Another filler post. Great job man.

[Max Jets]

Because attacking every player adds more to the town?

It's better then beeing silent and doing nothing.

[Uncle Kappy]

Another filler post. Great job man.

We are both doing it.

[Uncle Kappy]

It's better then beeing silent and doing nothing.

I don't know, I don't enjoy games where there are a bunch of people slinging insults at each other, its not fun at all. T.T

[Pete Pendelman]

Mafia usually say "Why me?" when someone fos you

Not quite true. I was just curious as to why that person thought I was a "safe lynch".

Is it a crime to be curious? I guess so.


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Roland Chang

Trolling posts at the start of D1, as was everyone else.

Made some lists about people and their posts and what he considers "useless shit posts", or "fillers".

In reply to Ace Chapmans post, said it doesn't matter today (d1)

Thinks Max looks like town (d1)

Is VERY for a Rashid lynch.

Says that Sydney will flip town... possible scum tell? He knows Sydney isn't scum because he's scum? Speculation...

Is sure Elisha is Jester.

Likes COM hunting.

"Survival List"

Is "quite sure" the Godfather already posted in D1. Does he know who GF is?

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I just picked the first person that popped up.
Does anyone want me to look at someone specifically? I'll look at some other people.

[Pete Pendelman]

IMO Roland is up there on my "okay" list. I don't think a scum would be an ass.

[Ace Chapman]

Me? Why me? How would I be a safe lynch?





We can't sure for sure, obviously. But I honestly am not sure, as is everyone else. I would say a jailor because if it was an interrogator, wouldn't he have killed? Although, he did say that he claimed a useless role so he wouldn't waste a lynch on a non-PR (claim).

I'm torn.

I'll post some analysis in a bit.

You took my post out of context. That was in reference to my question to the host and had absolutely NOTHING to do with Jailor/Interrogator.

anti disguiser message? how does this work?

Laura posted an encryptor/decryptor site on page.. .41 I think it was, and suggested we each make a message every day, post it before day ends, then re-post the message with the key the day after to prove we haven't been disguisered.

[Pete Pendelman]

You took my post out of context. That was in reference to my question to the host and had absolutely NOTHING to do with Jailor/Interrogator.

I know it was in reference to it, I was just using it as a sort of... kick off point if you will.

[Ace Chapman]

Still, you could have removed the host question part of it to make it clearer exactly what you were quoting, as it had nothing to do with what you posted >_<

[Pete Pendelman]

Still, you could have removed the host question part of it to make it clearer exactly what you were quoting, as it had nothing to do with what you posted >_<

Wait wait I was thinking of something else.

You're talking about this part?

Do we really believe it was Interrogator who jailed Max?

How is that talking to the host?

[Pete Pendelman]

NEVERMIND.
I'm not very smart.

[Roland Chang]

Checking in!

Dr Jordan... maybe you have a degree in Theoretical Physics? It would explain a lot.

crap post

Lol it took a moment to find and crop the correct Uncle Kappy picture.

crap post

I'm going to have to fix the time on these posts.

Anyway, Charles is right about voting. It gives us information even if we have no leads. In this case, Elisha is defending Sgt. Pepper. Noted.

states the obvious

Nah, it points out someone who woke up and is trying to say something pro town since the role list thing is dead. (So yea actually )

"Waste of red color" We will get more. Voting is the easiest method of pressure. As long as you don't go past L-2 or L-3 you're fine. You are correct that you can pressure someone without voting, but I find that method goes hand in hand with voting people.

states the obvious

Not really. I have played very little games where voting someone for pressure early on was a bad move.

Besides it gives us something to talk about xD

you didn't play many games to begin with. s-FM experience is neglectable because you end up playing most games with the same guys over and over again unlike in bigger games

Because you are here and he is L-8? (Not that I have voted either, I would rather pressure someone else)

crap post. wants rather to pressure someone else but doesn't provide a better target nor does he vote anyone.

Fine, I pick Elisha! JKJK

No seriously I would like to FoS Rashid or Professor Baxter. Its up to you.

another Spineless post

If only you knew.


But he sees a reason and wants you to vote him. Thats why he asked :P

Yea lets go ahead and pressure Baxter, who doesn't even see how we would get a scum if they hammered/brought to L-1.

-vote Professor Baxter

Why vote someone who basicly is as useful as yourself just less spammy? I fail to see how you justify your vote. Weren't you like "I can't see how Day 1 votings can catch scum before? This is basicly the same thing.

You aren't listening. My goal is to pressure vote someone, and to pressure vote someone they need to be voted on a a lot (but still the minority) of people. As stated again, I don't want to go past L-2/L-3, if someone were to hammer that would make them scum.

Also, I'm not pressuring someone who isn't here, you seem to be here right now.

obvious filler post

lol New posts didn't come up. xD

crap post

I read Elisha as town for the moment.

crap post

-vote Sidney Huffman

Not forgetting baxter (also my computer overheated T.T)

Choo Choo. L-5 Be careful plox.

sheep vote with no input. Nobody cares about your computer in the first place.

L-4.

crap filler post.

Okay, so I have lurked for too long.

I'm on page 22, figured I should at least say I have no feedback.

Not going to waste your time with a generic excuse, unless you want one. Going back to reading.

filler

Holy fuck.

Did I waste my time reading a 12ish pages of nothing but insults, where they both just drop it out of the blue?

Sigh. Time to get my thoughts together.

filler again.

RP, NOT RELEVANT TO THE GAME: Hey Crypt, what happened to a ferry arriving this morning? I want to get on it xD

filler

Ah I forget about Yabo in my list >.<

filler.

You just said the same thing as Rashid did T.T

Until a bigger lynch target appears.

-vote Tom Yabo

Also, even if he flips Jester, we know that Pete will be a safe lynch.

understandable vote at that time

Then push against them. Insults only lead us to day one clusterinsultfuck.

fillah.

Remind me to Plus rep you after the game is over. xD

Rep power 2 so strong oh and FILLER.

Sure, I'll ask some questions. I'll answer them in a few hours myself. If I don't, someone needs to remind me.

What do you think of a possible Neutral connection between Elisha and Pepper?

Who do you think is scummiest? Who are the middle of the road players that should we pressure?

Any other connections that haven't been discussed that you have noticed?

Why not answer them before you ask others? I give you slightly town points for it

This just hit me... if we think Max was jailed by an interrogator, he is most likely not a mafia.

a thought but no real reasoning behind it. nor quotings or anything. Worthless.

I would argue for a blacksmith, call it intuition.

a thought but no real reasoning behind it. nor quotings or anything. Worthless.

OMG I don't want to have a repeat of Day One.

Chill the fuck out. If you can't add your input in calmly and without insult, then I'm considering that you are derailing the day chat.

Filler and i think you smoke mariuana.

Trying to get your attention : D

>.>
<.<

shhh I know its hypocritical

filler

Because attacking every player adds more to the town?

filler

We are both doing it.

filler




Conclusion: Care free citizen.

[Roland Chang]

Spoiler : Oncle Crappy Anal isis :

Checking in!

Dr Jordan... maybe you have a degree in Theoretical Physics? It would explain a lot.

crap post

Lol it took a moment to find and crop the correct Uncle Kappy picture.

crap post

I'm going to have to fix the time on these posts.

Anyway, Charles is right about voting. It gives us information even if we have no leads. In this case, Elisha is defending Sgt. Pepper. Noted.

states the obvious

Nah, it points out someone who woke up and is trying to say something pro town since the role list thing is dead. (So yea actually )

"Waste of red color" We will get more. Voting is the easiest method of pressure. As long as you don't go past L-2 or L-3 you're fine. You are correct that you can pressure someone without voting, but I find that method goes hand in hand with voting people.

states the obvious

Not really. I have played very little games where voting someone for pressure early on was a bad move.

Besides it gives us something to talk about xD

you didn't play many games to begin with. s-FM experience is neglectable because you end up playing most games with the same guys over and over again unlike in bigger games

Because you are here and he is L-8? (Not that I have voted either, I would rather pressure someone else)

crap post. wants rather to pressure someone else but doesn't provide a better target nor does he vote anyone.

Fine, I pick Elisha! JKJK

No seriously I would like to FoS Rashid or Professor Baxter. Its up to you.

another Spineless post

If only you knew.


But he sees a reason and wants you to vote him. Thats why he asked :P

Yea lets go ahead and pressure Baxter, who doesn't even see how we would get a scum if they hammered/brought to L-1.

-vote Professor Baxter

Why vote someone who basicly is as useful as yourself just less spammy? I fail to see how you justify your vote. Weren't you like "I can't see how Day 1 votings can catch scum before? This is basicly the same thing.

You aren't listening. My goal is to pressure vote someone, and to pressure vote someone they need to be voted on a a lot (but still the minority) of people. As stated again, I don't want to go past L-2/L-3, if someone were to hammer that would make them scum.

Also, I'm not pressuring someone who isn't here, you seem to be here right now.

obvious filler post

lol New posts didn't come up. xD

crap post

I read Elisha as town for the moment.

crap post

-vote Sidney Huffman

Not forgetting baxter (also my computer overheated T.T)

Choo Choo. L-5 Be careful plox.

sheep vote with no input. Nobody cares about your computer in the first place.

L-4.

crap filler post.

Okay, so I have lurked for too long.

I'm on page 22, figured I should at least say I have no feedback.

Not going to waste your time with a generic excuse, unless you want one. Going back to reading.

filler

Holy fuck.

Did I waste my time reading a 12ish pages of nothing but insults, where they both just drop it out of the blue?

Sigh. Time to get my thoughts together.

filler again.

RP, NOT RELEVANT TO THE GAME: Hey Crypt, what happened to a ferry arriving this morning? I want to get on it xD

filler

Ah I forget about Yabo in my list >.<

filler.

You just said the same thing as Rashid did T.T

Until a bigger lynch target appears.

-vote Tom Yabo

Also, even if he flips Jester, we know that Pete will be a safe lynch.

understandable vote at that time

Then push against them. Insults only lead us to day one clusterinsultfuck.

fillah.

Remind me to Plus rep you after the game is over. xD

Rep power 2 so strong oh and FILLER.

Sure, I'll ask some questions. I'll answer them in a few hours myself. If I don't, someone needs to remind me.

What do you think of a possible Neutral connection between Elisha and Pepper?

Who do you think is scummiest? Who are the middle of the road players that should we pressure?

Any other connections that haven't been discussed that you have noticed?

Why not answer them before you ask others? I give you slightly town points for it

This just hit me... if we think Max was jailed by an interrogator, he is most likely not a mafia.

a thought but no real reasoning behind it. nor quotings or anything. Worthless.

I would argue for a blacksmith, call it intuition.

a thought but no real reasoning behind it. nor quotings or anything. Worthless.

OMG I don't want to have a repeat of Day One.

Chill the fuck out. If you can't add your input in calmly and without insult, then I'm considering that you are derailing the day chat.

Filler and i think you smoke mariuana.

Trying to get your attention : D

>.>
<.<

shhh I know its hypocritical

filler

Because attacking every player adds more to the town?

filler

We are both doing it.

filler

Conclusion: Care free citizen.

[Tommy Calhoun]

Hundred lines of quotes to state the obvious.

Conclusion: Derp.

[Roland Chang]

Conclusion: Derp.

Isn't it already past your bedtime? oO

[Roland Chang]

Solely the amount of time i invest in this game should be a town tell. But bads will stay bad no matter what.

[Tommy Calhoun]

Isn't it already past your bedtime? oO

Ah, right. Your mom kept me busy for longer than usual.
Either that or your CoM hunting skills are as bad as the rest of your Mafia skills.

[Roland Chang]

Lol and you like fat chicks! Amazing!

[Tommy Calhoun]

Lol and you like fat chicks! Amazing!

The fact that you refer to your mother as a 'chick' and think that fat people are funny only confirms that you're some very young teenager who likely just tries to immitate what others do or to replicate the behaviour of his idols. This is confirmed when you make your long lists and pseudo-analysis, yet are unable to back up anything you say in there when you're asked to do so. You commonly throw accusations and make references to what a somewhat experienced player (your ideal) would do, but then you resort to spam, trolling or plain idiotic answers when you're asked to elaborate on your supposedly clever contributions.

Btw: Next time refer to the 'unconscious', talking about 'subconscious' only makes it obvious that's you're entirely uneducated on the subject.

[Roland Chang]

The fact that you refer to your mother as a 'chick' and think that fat people are funny only confirms that you're some very young teenager who likely just tries to immitate what others do or to replicate the behaviour of his idols. This is confirmed when you make your long lists and pseudo-analysis, yet are unable to back up anything you say in there when you're asked to do so. You commonly throw accusations and make references to what a somewhat experienced player (your ideal) would do, but then you resort to spam, trolling or plain idiotic answers when you're asked to elaborate on your supposedly clever contributions.

Btw: Next time refer to the 'unconscious', talking about 'subconscious' only makes it obvious that's you're entirely uneducated on the subject.

Says the guy who insults the mother of someone else. Hilarious.

[Charles Bronson]

I am back now. I trust Sidney's Pepper read.

[Charles Bronson]

-vote Sgt. Pepper

I tend to work on hunches, and while they are normally accurate it is nice to see a thorough read on someone I don't trust come back looking scummy.

I suggest this as our main push for the day.

[Ace Chapman]

Well since absolutely nothing else is happening today and we have.... 26(?) hours left, I see no reason to not pressure someone (Not rescinding my earlier comment about taking someone too close to lynch, just agreeing that we need to pressure)

-vote Sgt. Pepper

[Tommy Calhoun]

I don't understand the definition of "pressure" that we're using.
It seems to be something like "Vote someone, if he refuses to reply, then vote someone else".

I guess I'll just start ignoring this during the daytime.
Later.

[Charles Bronson]

I don't understand the definition of "pressure" that we're using.
It seems to be something like "Vote someone, if he refuses to reply, then vote someone else".

I guess I'll just start ignoring this during the daytime.
Later.

Lol, very true.

Let's make it so then. I am calling for the lynch of Sgt. Pepper.
Knowing the COM of Sidney, if we are agreeing on something we are right.

We will be lynching Sgt. Pepper. What does everyone think of that?

[Ace Chapman]

Just got back from eating dinner. Re-reading the analysis'(analysi?) that have been posting and also checking out Peppers' posts.

[Professor Baxter]

Hi everyone, just catching up, going to review pepper's, tom's and demitri's posts.

[Roland Chang]

Lol, very true.

Let's make it so then. I am calling for the lynch of Sgt. Pepper.
Knowing the COM of Sidney, if we are agreeing on something we are right.

We will be lynching Sgt. Pepper. What does everyone think of that?

I seriously doubt that you guys ever played a game together.

[Ace Chapman]

Just on a side note... I can't believe how much useless crap gets posted... I'm scrolling through the past few pages and I find almost nothing that's helpful

Pepper ate Madbird's "Was the roles list randomized?" question far too readily, and then used it as an excuse to not contribute anything in set-up analysis.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...568#post350568
Immediately placates Town by saying he understands the votes on him.
Tries to deflect as soon as possible.
Tries to make further excuses for his unhelpfulness. (Namely: Inexperience.)

Asked Roland why he put Tommy and Kappy as scum. I would think Kappy would be fairly obvious, but if Pepper is Mafia the implications of Tommy being mafia as well frighten me. I'm hoping you and Sidney are correct that he is only Banshee. (I'm assuming that's why you're voting him)

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...668#post350668
Immediately states he has no problem with grovelling to get back into Town's good graces. Not very Towny, as a Town shouldn't have to grovel to be thought of as Town.

Didn't want to add his thoughts on Merc-team, but then when asked why not he says that if we want him to he will, even though we'd been asking for it for a while. Seems suspicious he'd want to keep the merc thoughts under wraps, when they're probably Town's most dangerous enemy(Besides Banshee)

Only Town thing I found about him was he was open to questions. But even with that, I am fairly confident he is not Town.

P.S: Thank you Sidney for the idea to put post-links rather than quotes. Definitely cuts down on post size.

[Professor Baxter]

Hi, ok so i did a quick read and has demitri even posted ? Peppers has posted like twice and it was basically unimportant. I feel comfortable pressuring them for information, or lynching one of them. They're both scummy and aren't contributing which can really hurt town.
Tom has atleast posted some (more than the others) since being pressured. So, I feel comfortable removing my vote from him for the time being, to get more information from others.
I would like to hear from Demitri regarding his thoughts on the train on him yesterday, and where he's interested in the lynch going today and any information he may have from the night.

-vote Sgt. Pepper