Forum Mafia XIX Signups

[Arch Eskimo]

dewhut

Oh, and a fun fact for discussion:

Since I last looked at the setup yesterday, there has been an edit to the setup allowing for 2 more players, which brings us to a nice, even 37 players. The additional roles are a hidden neutral and a hidden town role, I believe. So two lucky players who would not have made it into the game will now get to play!

Burnt Eskimo was banned.

[KevinPowers]

Don't mess up again!

I have been in a few FMs since that first game throw so that reasoning does not make sense here....

[KevinPowers]

I am still waiting for a reason as to why I was left out of the game, when others who /sign after me got added.

[Gerik]

Burnt Eskimo was banned.

Not sure if that counts as a modkill, but oh well. Nothing of value was lost.

[Gerik]

I am still waiting for a reason as to why I was left out of the game, when others who /sign after me got added.

How would you even know this? The player list hasn't been released and I don't think anyone has gotten their accounts/roles yet.

But let's say you're right and you were left out. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason probably rhymes with shmamethrowing.

[Muso]

How would you even know this? The player list hasn't been released and I don't think anyone has gotten their accounts/roles yet.

But let's say you're right and you were left out. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason probably rhymes with shmamethrowing.

Famesewing?

[Arch Eskimo]

Not sure if that counts as a modkill, but oh well. Nothing of value was lost.

I'm sensing a little frustration from Burnt taking your MVP spot.

I think the word is DameToeing

[Raptorblaze]

I am still waiting for a reason as to why I was left out of the game, when others who /sign after me got added.

I'm not privvy to the host's decisions since I /signed, but I'd assume he doesn't trust you and/or want you in the game. You can always pm the FMGM account and ask since he has access to it.

How would you even know this? The player list hasn't been released and I don't think anyone has gotten their accounts/roles yet.

But let's say you're right and you were left out. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason probably rhymes with shmamethrowing.

His name was never added to the /sign list in the OP.

[Gingerape]

Am I the first reserve or are all the reserves shuffled!?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Am I the first reserve or are all the reserves shuffled!?

Reserve will be sought out at the appropriate time. The first available will be selected.

[Gerik]

I'm sensing a little frustration from Burnt taking your MVP spot.

I think the word is DameToeing

Nah. "he" is just a negative presence in the community. So I don't miss "him".

[KevinPowers]

If I had to guess, I'd say the reason probably rhymes with shmamethrowing.

And as I have said before Gerik, I have played in other FMs after that game that I did Game Throw and was allowed to play and was not modkilled. Look at Raptors signature. That was my character =)

So not being let in for a game throw that happened well over a year and a half ago, considering that I have played in FMs since and not tossed the game, makes zero sense.

[KevinPowers]

I'm not privvy to the host's decisions since I /signed, but I'd assume he doesn't trust you and/or want you in the game. You can always pm the FMGM account and ask since he has access to it.
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Again, I have played in FMs since the game throw that was over a year and a half ago. Tylwyth was me as you should know Raptor. So again, that makes no sense why I would not be included over "doesn't trust you."

Have done so a few times now a couple of days ago. No reply yet. Looks like the FMGM is either backed up or is not a very good host thus far. Hope it is just the case as they are backed up, which is understandable. Fingers crossed that the host isn't just a bad one.

[Cryptonic]

Again, I have played in FMs since the game throw that was over a year and a half ago. Tylwyth was me as you should know Raptor. So again, that makes no sense why I would not be included over "doesn't trust you."

Have done so a few times now a couple of days ago. No reply yet. Looks like the FMGM is either backed up or is not a very good host thus far. Hope it is just the case as they are backed up, which is understandable. Fingers crossed that the host isn't just a bad one.

Yes, it was SO long ago. :/ I think it's a little dumb.. I mean, persons are on the list who got caught cheating in the previous FM... I don't see the fairness, but I guess it's the hosts' discretion.

[Sen]

Yes, it was SO long ago. :/ I think it's a little dumb.. I mean, persons are on the list who got caught cheating in the previous FM... I don't see the fairness, but I guess it's the hosts' discretion.

lol @ idiots who cheat to win a mafia game. Go get a life.

[AppleyNO]

lol @ idiots who cheat to win a mafia game. Go get a life.

Now lets be fair, the game was about to be over, with the last two people left. It was going to be a "No One Wins" if he hadn't cheated. Should he have posted at all? No. Should Damus and Ika be held to the same standard as a blatant gamethrow? No.

[Sen]

Now lets be fair, the game was about to be over, with the last two people left. It was going to be a "No One Wins" if he hadn't cheated. Should he have posted at all? No. Should Damus and Ika be held to the same standard as a blatant gamethrow? No.

I haven't read that game, but come one, this is to have fun.
If you find yourself cheating to win a forum game, something's going really wrong in your life. >_>

[Orpz]

Corrupt Journalists would have won. Including the one that made like no posts the whole game and then died

[ika]

my case was slightly diffrent. i didnt cheat at the fm if you check conclusion and log you will see that i didnt gamethrow but they had a justification on why they did it

[AppleyNO]

Corrupt Journalists would have won. Including the one that made like no posts the whole game and then died

Clementine was bitching at me about how everyone wanted the CJ's to win, and she wasn't going to give them the win.

@Kevinpowers

So from what I read on FM X, the site had to be rolled back because you not only revealed yourself and the arsonist; you messed up the reports section. This is going to take some serious trust rebuilding.

[Forum Mafia GM]

@Kevinpowers

So from what I read on FM X, the site had to be rolled back because you not only revealed yourself and the arsonist; you messed up the reports section. This is going to take some serious trust rebuilding.

Kevin, as AppleyNO has pointed out there was more to your original ban than just the gamethrowing. You also effectively tried to ruin the Reports Forum by merging dozens of threads forcing an entire site role back built around your childish response to being let go. Actions done with intent to attempt to ruin parts of the site warrant not just banishment from Forum Mafias, but make it laughable that your account is allowed to exist. This might have to do with why your first /sign was not just deleted and ignored, but your account was removed.

You are not welcome in any game I take part in hosting. Please see yourself out.

[Gerik]

Now lets be fair, the game was about to be over, with the last two people left. It was going to be a "No One Wins" if he hadn't cheated. Should he have posted at all? No. Should Damus and Ika be held to the same standard as a blatant gamethrow? No.

Actually it was going to be an "everyone wins except for the evil neutrals" scenario. Personally I think the outside of game discussion, though technically not permissible, was in this case blown out of proportion. All that was discussed was the setup/rules of the game. All that really happened is Damus realized he (and the hosts) had misinterpreted the setup and that it actually allowed for the aforementioned "everyone but evil neutrals wins" scenario, and the clarification caused Damus to change his mind.

So like I said, ideally wouldn't happen, but it's not like anyone was saying "yo towny, I'm town too let's share our information with each other and fuck up the mafia with all this information we shouldn't be able to know/share".

I like Clem and Rocshi, but I think the modkill was just their way of covering their asses to avoid having all but two players win thanks to the vague wording of the win conditions.

tl;dr- different things are different. Host discretion. All that jazz.

[Nick]

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Maybe I should say that newbies won't really care whether you joined or not. Since they don't know you. Gamethrowing? Meh, some were banned for a few games then joined again. Others were also accused of borderline gamethrowing. I'm sure quite a few will feel sympathy for you.

However. Betraying trust and messing up the website just because of your arguments with some staffs means that you are declaring war against the whole community. Then again, humans normally have short memories. They forgive and forget. But it doesn't help if you try to rejoin yet act haughty, threaten left and right and insist your wrongdoings are justified. Who will dare welcome you if you are still like that?

Well. Don't fret. This is just some shitty minor game website full of kids. Why bother about this insignificant speck of digital life. But I wish you good luck on your real life. Please don't act like how you act here.

[Muso]

Kevin chill out

[Raptorblaze]

Kevin chill out

This. For what it's worth I was actually trying to get you let into the game, but you seriously need to understand that no one trusts you with anything anymore. Your responses are just entirely emotional and not at all rational.

[ika]

Wow, this Kevin person looks like real troll. I know that in many communities trolls are welcomed and almost worshipped, little bit like guys who can drink a lot. Sure, this guy got so wasted he vomitted on your laptop and destroyed it, but it was hilarious, so it's ok, right? But if you are making a party and you want it to be damage-free, you don't invite people who are completely unpredictable. So yeah, Bhaal is 100% right on this one.

Btw, it's amazing how this guy is still welcomed here after he tried to damage the forum.

its called dr trolling, he was perma banned but dr like to do things like this, much like the april fools day jokes on the game, there was one that i hear of that was quite... intresting

[BorkBot]

Deleted a number of posts because flame wars aren't desired in the news section. Thank you very much

[KevinPowers]

This. For what it's worth I was actually trying to get you let into the game, but you seriously need to understand that no one trusts you with anything anymore. Your responses are just entirely emotional and not at all rational.

Was almost two years ago and I have played since then in FMs and have not thrown any games. So you can understand that it is a bit frustrating to be treated this way when as Cryptonic has said, there are FM Game Throwers who are currently on the sign up sheet as we speak. That is Cryptonics point and I share it.

[Cryptonic]

Was almost two years ago and I have played since then in FMs and have not thrown any games. So you can understand that it is a bit frustrating to be treated this way when as Cryptonic has said, there are FM Game Throwers who are currently on the sign up sheet as we speak. That is Cryptonics point and I share it.

They weren't game throwers, it was outside communication. My view is that the host could've at least put you on the list and not let you in. It was pretty much inviting drama by ignoring completely.

[Arch Eskimo]

Now lets be fair, the game was about to be over, with the last two people left. It was going to be a "No One Wins" if he hadn't cheated. Should he have posted at all? No. Should Damus and Ika be held to the same standard as a blatant gamethrow? No.

If you actually look at the game, Damus was planning on letting the Cult win and then "decided" to not do that after discussing with Ika. Blatant gamethrowing imo.

[KevinPowers]

They weren't game throwers, it was outside communication. My view is that the host could've at least put you on the list and not let you in. It was pretty much inviting drama by ignoring completely.

Anyway the only way to prove I wont do that kind of thing again (only did it in the first place when threatened by a Admin) is to let me play. I played in FM XIV, which was after my Game Throwing game. I kept quiet for a large duration of the game (not lerking quiet mind you.) It was not till the end that I became very voiceful and went all out acting scummy. I was trying to take a bullet/lynch to protect the important town roles (I was just a citizen.) However, I knew that Sheeana was scum and tried to get Sheeana killed, turned out I was 100% correct and that Sheeana was in fact Atlas. But again, I was Modkilled when my true identity was found out. I was trying to play the game and show that I would not game thrower, but each time I try I get rejected or modkilled. Quite frustrating, as while acting scummy in FM XIV, i managed to get Atlas killed and protected town by becoming a very loud target.

To sum up, the only way to clear my past rep is to play the game. Tried hiding with different names and IPs in the past, but this time I wanted to join as my real name and clear some past conceptions.

This FMGM does not want me in their game, that is 100% fine. It is their game and they can run it as they see fit. But I hope the next FMGM gives me a shot. I hope that is reasonable.

Happy FM those who play. Don't make the game last too long now. =)

[Raptorblaze]

Anyway the only way to prove I wont do that kind of thing again (only did it in the first place when threatened by a Admin) is to let me play. I played in FM XIV, which was after my Game Throwing game. I kept quiet for a large duration of the game (not lerking quiet mind you.) It was not till the end that I became very voiceful and went all out acting scummy. I was trying to take a bullet/lynch to protect the important town roles (I was just a citizen.) However, I knew that Sheeana was scum and tried to get Sheeana killed, turned out I was 100% correct and that Sheeana was in fact Atlas. But again, I was Modkilled when my true identity was found out. I was trying to play the game and show that I would not game thrower, but each time I try I get rejected or modkilled. Quite frustrating, as while acting scummy in FM XIV, i managed to get Atlas killed and protected town by becoming a very loud target.

To sum up, the only way to clear my past rep is to play the game. Tried hiding with different names and IPs in the past, but this time I wanted to join as my real name and clear some past conceptions.

This FMGM does not want me in their game, that is 100% fine. It is their game and they can run it as they see fit. But I hope the next FMGM gives me a shot. I hope that is reasonable.

Happy FM those who play. Don't make the game last too long now. =)

Based on my knowledge of the host queue... I wouldn't get my hopes up until FM XXII

[KevinPowers]

Based on my knowledge of the host queue... I wouldn't get my hopes up until FM XXII

I see no reason why a FMGM in the next game cannot let me in and just give me a very basic role and let me prove that I wont Game Throw. Seems quite reasonable, since the only reason why I have been modkilled in the past, since my FM gamethrow game, was due to my ID getting out, not for my in game actions.

[FM Ferengi]

I'll have you know that FMGM was unsure what to do with you and that's why you weren't added to the signups list initially. He asked me a few times what I thought and it was my recommendation not to let you play. Apologies for leaving you uncertain for such a long time. At least now you have an honest answer, which seems more fair than giving you false hope.

If you want to know more, handle it through PMs. This isn't a place to vent.

[Arch Eskimo]

Anyway the only way to prove I wont do that kind of thing again (only did it in the first place when threatened by a Admin) is to let me play. I played in FM XIV, which was after my Game Throwing game. I kept quiet for a large duration of the game (not lerking quiet mind you.) It was not till the end that I became very voiceful and went all out acting scummy. I was trying to take a bullet/lynch to protect the important town roles (I was just a citizen.) However, I knew that Sheeana was scum and tried to get Sheeana killed, turned out I was 100% correct and that Sheeana was in fact Atlas. But again, I was Modkilled when my true identity was found out. I was trying to play the game and show that I would not game thrower, but each time I try I get rejected or modkilled. Quite frustrating, as while acting scummy in FM XIV, i managed to get Atlas killed and protected town by becoming a very loud target.

To sum up, the only way to clear my past rep is to play the game. Tried hiding with different names and IPs in the past, but this time I wanted to join as my real name and clear some past conceptions.

This FMGM does not want me in their game, that is 100% fine. It is their game and they can run it as they see fit. But I hope the next FMGM gives me a shot. I hope that is reasonable.

Happy FM those who play. Don't make the game last too long now. =)

This is bullshit

/unsign

[KevinPowers]

I'll have you know that FMGM was unsure what to do with you and that's why you weren't added to the signups list initially. He asked me a few times what I thought and it was my recommendation not to let you play. Apologies for leaving you uncertain for such a long time. At least now you have an honest answer, which seems more fair than giving you false hope.

If you want to know more, handle it through PMs. This isn't a place to vent.

Thank you for the honest answer. I did PM him a few times and got nothing back, which is why I had to take it to the forums.

Whatever personal opinions you may have of someone, I hope that those opinions does not keep me or anyone else with a bad public rap out of future games. I have already apologized to those people who were effected by my game throw almost two years ago. I have ever since been trying to join and prove that I can be trusted when it comes to forum FM.

Hell, i'll even throw in a sports reference. Look at Alex Rodriguez. He did not Game Throw mind you, but he has been a convicted cheater in the past. Is he banned for life for cheating in one game? No. He is now suspended for what I believe is two years however. My Game Throw was two years ago as well. If New York can let A Rod play after all the shit he has pulled...... why not Mafia?

I hope the next FMGM gives me a chance, as it is all I can ask for. I think that is completely fair. Even give me citizen again.

Anyway, I have said my peace and I do respect and appreciate the honesty Cespenar. Hope I am given the chance to change that opinion in a future game.

Good luck to those who play. Have a good time and make it a short game!

[Raptorblaze]

I see no reason why a FMGM in the next game cannot let me in and just give me a very basic role and let me prove that I wont Game Throw. Seems quite reasonable, since the only reason why I have been modkilled in the past, since my FM gamethrow game, was due to my ID getting out, not for my in game actions.

The different hosts have all expressed their opinions of you to me recently. Therefore I know the next two would be likely to say no but the one after would probably let you in. Just guessing though it's not set in stone.

[KevinPowers]

The different hosts have all expressed their opinions of you to me recently. Therefore I know the next two would be likely to say no but the one after would probably let you in. Just guessing though it's not set in stone.

Appreciate the advice/information Raptor! I am going to still try and /sign and hope that I am given a chance by one of them. Like I said with Alex Rodriguez, cheated before and admitted it, in alot of peoples eyes he is a world class douche, but is then given a chance to play and show that when it's game time he is a solid player and can be trusted.

Would be pretty amazing if one of those hosts coming up who doesn't think to highly of me gives me that chance and see what happens. Would be a very classy act to let someone play. Can always modkill, and I have also suggested to give me a role like citizen or something on those lines. So fingers crossed!

[Voss]

i'm really more interested to know whether or not we'll know if we are on the reserve list if we haven't yet received account information.

[FM Ferengi]

Rolecards have not been sent out.

[Forum Mafia GM]

There will be no public player list. The best you have is the signups list.

[powerofdeath]

Do you mind telling people they ARE a replacement to the game so it wont be confusing if they are a replacement or the host forgot to pm them.

[Sen]

There will be no public player list. The best you have is the signups list.

Ah, alright. Will you make it public when you've finished sending rolecards?
No need to make the names public. Just so those who don't get in know it and can stop checking this or waiting for a pm.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Do you mind telling people they ARE a replacement to the game so it wont be confusing if they are a replacement or the host forgot to pm them.

Everyone will know their place once accounts go out.

[BorkBot]

This is a final warning; the next person who posts here to argue or even comment on whether anyone does or doesn't deserve to play FM will be infracted.

[creedkingsx]

This being open serves no purpose.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Official Statement: Anonymous accounts have their roles.
Accounts will go out upon the success of the final checks.

[Gerik]

Official Statement: Anonymous accounts have their roles.
Accounts will go out upon the success of the final checks.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[FM Ferengi]

Signups for reserve slots will remain open for players whose identities don't need verification.

Like in the previous FM, we will try to ensure that reserves have something to do for their entertainment.

[Slaol]

/unsign because FM GM.

My identity was breached by the lovely Burnt Eskimo.
I have chosen to officially reveal myself to the public, namely those that did not get the PM before he was prevented from spreading. Knowledge of who is hosting is minor at best, but as I was on the signups I felt the necessity to reveal and confirm my lack of playing to all players.

Slaol is Bhaal.

My butler, however, shall remain anonymous.