S-FM Amnesiac

[ika]

What happens when you don’t know your role?

Spoiler : THE EPIC RP :

Spoiler : godfather :

You’ve worked in this hospital for a while. Your mafia has been destroyed. You have head into hiding waiting for the right moment to strike. You walk in and notice on the desk is some papers. It’s a list of new patients. You glance though the names and notice they all have the same condition, they don’t know what they were

“This is perfect.” The Godfather says to himself as Ika approaches.

“What’s perfect?” Ika says holding a clipboard.

“Oh, the fact that we have some new patients, it will be great for us because it gives us work,” The godfather quickly says. “By the way, what’s that you got there?”

“Oh it’s a file of Gerik,” ika says with a slight tone of disappointment, “Everyone always said ‘he was scum’ or ‘he is always a scum.’ So finally someone decided to end him by disabling his breaks in his car. It caused a huge pileup and now we are booked with patients.”

You grinned for you were the one who took out his breaks, but you kept it hidden and then asked “Was he a scum though?”

“No, he was the doctor, so now we have to hire a new one. The new doctor should be here soon though for now I’m going to attend to the patients, could you take these two for me though.” As ika hands you a clipboard of two patients, “I already filled them in on what happened, I just need you to check on them they were hurt more seriously than the others.”

The Godfather grinned and said “Why certainly, I will take care of them.”

“Thanks” Ika said as he walked off into one of the rooms meeting with a patient.

Doctor
You are sitting in your office filing though the paperwork. Seeing how it was generic type stuff you decide to turn on the TV and see that Gerik was terminated for being a scum. You knew he wasn’t but everyone goes ‘Gerik is scum’ and ‘Gerik always evil.’ You turn the TV off and look at the entire backlog of paperwork that there is. Before you had the chance to do anything the phone rings.

“Hello?” You say as you pick it up

“Hey it’s ika, I was wondering if you wanted to take Gerik’s spot.”

You sit there for a moment considering it and then say “Sure I will. When do I start?”

“Right now, hurry on over we need help and fast.” And hung up

You sit there and wonder was it the right choice. You have heard rumors about the hospital the mafia existing in there. But you shrug it off for now and decide to head on down and get ready for work.

Spoiler : all ames staring roleplay :

You wake up, your vision is blurred you see a figure but and make out who it is. You try to say something but it comes out gibberish. The figure turns around and sees that you are awake.

“Ah you are awake” the figure says, “here this will help you.”

The figure grabs a needle and sticks it in you. Your vision starts to clear up and you see that it’s ika. You try to speak again but still groggled.

“Hold on” Ika says, “it takes a few minutes to fully work. For now I am gonna ask you a few questions. Do you know where you are right now?”

You look around and see that it seems to be a hospital you nod you head. Ika then asks if you know what happened. You look at him puzzled and you think back to the last thing you were doing.

“The drugs should have worked by now try speaking now. Do you remember anything? Do you know who you are?”

You begin to speak “Yes, I am [insert COM name here].”

“Good, do you remember how you got here?”

It takes a moment but then you start to think about the last thing that happened then you start to say “All I seem to remember is that I was driving down the road heading out. The next thing I know is that I am here in a hospital.”

“Well it seems like it happened very fast. What happened was that Gerick decided to head on out and quit playing s-fms after being slotted as a scum in every game. He was heading on home when apparently his break went out and he couldn’t stop. He was picking up speed and then crashed into an oncoming car in cross traffic. He was instantly killed. The wreck then caused a huge pile-up of others. You were part of the wreckage. We were able to get you out but you were pretty banged up but you seem to be doing fine now. Do you remember what you use to do or what you were?”

You think about it for a bit and then say “I think so, but I’m uncertain there are several things I think I used to do but they are all kind of fuzzy at the same time, I feel like if I remember one more I will forget the others.”

“Figures,” Ika replies. “We did a brain scan of you and it seems like the wreckages hit you in the head pretty hard. We were able to salvage a lot of things from the wreckage but everything had no name. We put it into storage for later use. Your welcome to go look at it and see what you think is yours. But before you can check it out you have to tell me what you are checking out so I can mark it off. Today is garbage day so anything left behind at the end of the day will be thrown out.”

You thanks ika and he nods and starts to leave but stops at the door and says “When you feel better head down to the hall to the main room everyone else who is awake should be gathering there.” And then leaves and shuts the door.

Spoiler : the mafia :

You start to ponder about what you were, you stare at the wall, you look at the monitor, and you just can’t seem to figure it out exactly what you used to do. You consider checking out the storage room to jog your memory. But just as you get up a person enters the room.

“Hai there,” the person says. It was the Godfather.

“Hello” you respond

“Do you know who I am?” Godfather asks

“I think so, aren’t you [insert COM name here]”

“Yes, ika wanted me to check in on you, he said you were seriously injured.”

“I’m doing ok for right now; I just can’t seem to remember what I used to do”

“Oh, well you used to work for me, I have been here for a while and was waiting for you to return but apparently you have forgotten. That’s ok, we can work on that later for now just know that I’m here to help you, and we can meet at night and talk about the things we learned. We have to head into the main lobby and meet with everyone else for now. I will see you there” And he left.

You sit there with uncertainty. Did you really work for the Godfather? You wonder but your mind is so fuzzy that you start to believe the person. So you decide to go with [insert COM name here] and help him. You think the person can help you regain your lost memory. You get up and head out to the commons to meet with everyone.

Spoiler : the town :

After ika’s leave you think about what you were but nothing really comes to mind. You remember several skills you used to have but they seemed to blur together with the others. Your head start to hurt from all the thinking and decide to get up. Just as you get up Ika comes back in.

“I just came to check on you and see how you are doing. Any luck on remembering what you used to do?”

You nod your head no saying that its right there but you are just uncertain.

“Shame” ika says, “I think after we have a meeting in the main commons it will become clear to you. Everyone is gathering together right now as we speak. All you need to do is head out the door and go down the hallway, you can’t miss it”

You thank ika and he smiles and leaves. You wonder who else was part of the traffic accident that happened and decide to head on out to the commons to meet with everyone.

Spoiler : the wildcard :

You don’t know what you exactly did but all you did know is that you were very skilled at it. You feel like you could master any skill in a moment’s notice. But at the same time you feel like when you remember that one skill you had all the rest will vanish. You have asked before how you got here, they say you were stumbling and walked in and checked yourself in here. But it’s been so long you don’t even know if that’s true anymore, they been doing test on you because they say your “unique.” You knew that for the longest time and after a while you decided to help them with their studies. But at the same time you could never truly figure out what made you “unique.” You can look at the dead bodies and almost see what they were and their history but only for a moment. It’s not long enough to tell everyone or even long enough for you to retain it. You feel like if you focused on it you could but you are afraid that when you do all of your other skills will vanish. You worked with Ika and respected him. He comes into your room today telling you that there’s a meeting in the commons today and wants you to be there. You happily agree to be there. You get out of the bed and head out to the commons and await to see the new arrivals.

Spoiler : role list :

Godfather
Amnesiac
Amnesiac

Doctor
Amnesiac
Amnesiac
Amnesiac
Amnesiac
Amnesiac
Amnesiac

Amnesiac
Amnesiac

Amnesiac


Possible mafia roles: consigliere, blackmailer, consort, framer, janitor

Possible town roles: Veteran, Vigilant, Jailor, corner, sheriff, escort, lookout, detective, bus driver, journalist, citizen

Possible neutral roles: witch, corrupt journalist, serial killer, arsonist, survivor, executioner, jester

Possible wildcard roles: consigliere, doctor, coroner, sheriff, escort, lookout, detective, bus driver, journalist, citizen, witch, corrupt journalist, arsonist, survivor

Amnesiac: You dont know who you are...

• pick a role from list given by the host

Spoiler : Town Roles :

Doctor: You are a doctor you save people

• target someone each night and save them from dying
• informed if target is saved
• can not be healed

Veteran: I KILL YOU!

• go on alert and kill all that vist you
• ignores immunity but can be healed
• limits to 3 uses

Vigilant: Shoot people

• shoot someone
• cant fire night one (witch can force a n1 fire)
• limit to 3 shot

Jailor: You detain people and possibly execute them

• perfect roleblock and gives night immune
• 3 executions
• ignores night immune and can't be healed
• can't jail if lynch

Corner: You examine the dead bodies to find out what happened to them

• sees true role (non ames role)
• sees last will
• sees last person they visited

Sheriff: you are on the hunt for the mafia and evils

• sees Mafia, serial killer, arson, as evil
• All others show not suspicious

escort: town role blocker

• role block someone each night
• cant be role blocked

lookout: you are a person who watches the ongoers

• each night chose someone to watch
• can not see godfathers actions

detective: you are a stalker and follow people

• each night chose someone to follow
• can not see godfathers actions

bus driver: you swap the peoples room

• pick 2 targets to swap for the night
• can bus self

journalist: interview people! it will be posted next day

• each day pick a target to interview
• being jailed/role blocked/killed will preven article from being published

citizen: you vote (SOME OPED SHIT THERE)

• wins the 1v1 tie vs mafia
• final citizen gets a 1 use maunal vest

Spoiler : mafia roles :

Godfather: leader of mafia

• can be sent each night to killed
• immune to sheriff detection
• night immune
• may submit night actions for mafia members*

*if a mafia member submits a night action it will override the gf submitting a night action for that mafia member

consigliere: The mafia investigator

• each night check someone to see their role
• sees exact role
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

blackmailer: The mafia silencer

• each night you silence someone
• the person may not speak, may post "I am Blackmailed" once
• may vote 2 times (exceptions is hammer voitng, may make 3rd as hammer voter)
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

consort: Mafias role blocker

• cant be role blocked
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

framer: you manipulate things and what people find

• frame targets as Evil
• make detective see him visit target of choice
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

janitor: the mafia cleaner

• each night clean a role and last will if they die
• cleaning a target will gain a copy of their last will
• limit to 3 cleanings
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action
• may check already dead target to see last wills (does not consume charge)

Spoiler : the nutrals :

witch: manipulator

• pick a target and make it target someone else
• may cause self target
• not informed of witching

corrupt journalist

• pick a target to interview durning day
• may interview self
• being jailed/role blocked/killed will preven article from being published

serial killer: deranged killer

• kill someone each night
• kills rbers (double roleblock will prevent kill)
• immune at night

Arsonist: you just want the world to burn

• douse someone each night
• dousing information is on
• can day burn but activate 1 night cd
• can undouse
• undousing is uninformed to target (only arson knows)

survivor: just wants to live

• 3 vests
• maunal use

executioner: wants to see target dead

• see target lynched
• target isn’t always town
• gain immunity when target is lynched
• becomes jester if target dies

jester: in insane individual who wants to die

• a guilty voter will die
• grief can be healed
• shows up citizen to wildcard

Spoiler : Amnesiac mechanic :

Everyone (besides doctor and godfather) will be given an Amnesiac role card. The host will then pass out a set of role to each person the person will pick the role on day 1 and will become that role for remainder of game

Mafia may decide on roles on night 1 to talk with other members, they may also do their night action the same time they remember their roles

Example: you are a town aligned Amnesiac, you were originally a journalist or escort

Yes it can have more than 2 roles!

The color coding
red=mafia
green=town
teal=neutrals
yellow=wildcard

Spoiler : the wildcard :

the wildcard amnesiac is town aligned and may pick any town role from the listing given

picking survivor is like cit but gets vests (3 vests, does NOT win 1v1 tie)

picking arson will allow you to douse/undouse/burn people*

picking corrupt journalist will allow you to post articles for yourself as well as interview others

picking witch will make you witch but STRICTLY town aligned

picking consigliere will make you be a town-like investigator but sees exact roles (GF and jester will show citizen)

Be warned taking on a mafia or arson role will make you susceptible to sheriff detections

*you do not get night immunity

Spoiler : OoO :

Day actions
amnesiac remembers roles (must pick on day 1 or they will default to a citizen)
Journalist/corrupt journalist pick interview targets
Jailor picks jailing target

Night actions
Jailor detaints target (if no lynch)
night chats open
executioner gains night immune (if target is lynched)
survivor puts on vest (+1)
Vet alerts (-1)
escort/consort roleblocks
witch controls (can force vet alert and susceptible to rb)
bus driver drives (canceled if witched or rbed)
arson douses/undouse
gf/sk/vig attacks (-1)
arson burn (-1)
Jester greif (-1)
doc heals (+1)
janitor cleaning (jan doesnt visit if target lives)
framer/blackmail
consig/sheriff/lookout/corner/detective feedbacks
Journal article published.
sucides (-infinity)

Spoiler : win conditions :

Mafia: eliminate town and all that oppose you
town: eliminate mafia and evils
Evil Arson/SK: kill off mafia and town
witch/corrupt journalist: see town lose
survivor: survive...
executioner: get your target lynched (neutral exe only)
jester: get lynched
disclaimer: to avoid any confusion, mafia and town must have a surviving member
witch and corrupt jornals must be alive to be eligable for win

Spoiler : 1v1 ties :

arson
serial killer
citizen (only against the mafia)
mafia
witch/corrupt journalist (wins with above, excption is the citizen tie)
town
survivor
executioner with win (must live to end)
jester (none must be standing and jester must of been lynched)

also to be eligible for a win a member must be alive (town and mafia)

disclaimer: wildcard ames will count as a town role, arson and serial killer winnning over mafia only applies to the evil

Spoiler : rules and all the other fun stuff :

questions in green
day/night is 24hrs
no editing post, pm players, ect ect
last wills can be made but will not show unless its lynch
last wills can be received by corners and janitors, if janitor cleans he will auto see last will
death notes are allowed (can be done by vig as well)
vid and pics allowed (no autoplays)
will be using official vote counter
51% lynch
inactivity will cause replacement and if needed mod kill
players are allowed to sucide but may only happens at night, there will be no day sucides, scums may resign but will only lead to ending if ALL scums resign

Spoiler : feedbacks :

consig feedback: your target's role is ___________

blackmailed: You have been blackmailed, you may post "I am Blackmailed" and vote

consort/escort role block: You have been role blocked

corner checking dead player: your target was _____, his/her last will was ______, they last visited _____, they died to ________
corner checking alive player: the player is still alive

sheriff checks mafia/serial killer/arson/framed: Your target is evil (wildcard arson/maf role will appear to be evil to sheriff)
sheriff check any other: your target is not suspicious

lookout target visits: _______ visited your target
lookout no visit: no one visited your target

detective with target moves: your target visited _______
detective with target not moving: your target didn't visit anyone

bus driven: you took a bus ride

vet alert: a person visited you so you dealt with them (times number of visit)
witch controlling vet (only if has alerts left): someone tried to control you so you decided to deal with them
trying to rb vet: someone tried to occupy you so you decided to deal with them....
jester visiting vet: some bitch annoyed you so you decided to deal with them...

Journalist/corrupt journalist: someone would like to interview you

doc heal: you were attacked but healed

dead: you have been killed

jester annoy: Some bitch annoyed you

presignings

[NoctiZ]

This sounds like fun.

[Cryptonic]

Make sure you balance town KPN. :o

[Bahkieh]

I swear I have seen this before O.o

[Cryptonic]

I swear I have seen this before O.o

Lol probably Escaho's Amnesia Town

[ika]

well its done and put in que.

QUESTION TIME!

[Slaol]

I want to be a town amnesiac and take citizen.

[ika]

I want to be a town amnesiac and take citizen.

[Titus]

Do you have to pick your role right away? Is there some sort of balancing attempt? Ex: Can I send a message specifying if someone remembers citizen, I want to remember doctor?

[ika]

Do you have to pick your role right away? Is there some sort of balancing attempt? Ex: Can I send a message specifying if someone remembers citizen, I want to remember doctor?

each person will have a set roles that they can become.

example: you are a town ames you can become role X,Y, Z

i will be handpicking what role they can choose. they must decide before night one. they may change it thoughout the day but once the role gets finalized i will send them their rolecard of what they chose

the excption is the wildcard ames. it is town aligned but may pick any town role or a nutral for more information see it under the ames mechnic

no you cant be spcific about what you want to remember based off ohters conditions

[Titus]

Ok /sign here. Sorry I missed bus driver.

[NoctiZ]

I see you have 3 presigning slots.

/presign

[ika]

I see you have 3 presigning slots.

/presign

added and made more space for presigns. there is no limit on presigns here

[Hypersniper]

/presign

[Banshis]

I'll take a presign too. The game looks like a lot of fun.
/presign

[ika]

Just a heads up, presigning does not garented a spot yuo will have to reconfirm. you will have a priority of 24hrs to confrim otherwise you get sent to resrves. this game is not gonna be easy for anyone. especially me, i have to figure out what roles each person will have to decide from. you better be truly deticated to this one. this will not be a game for someone who think they can ez mode it. day one will be a huge deciding factor for everyone

[BorkBot]

Please send me the "predetermined role sets" for each of the amnesiacs on the list in a PM.

Wildcard needs a LOT of additional explanation.

picking jester will reveal all the evils and mafias roles when lynched OR have one evil/mafia role suicide if they voted on you

Is this in addition to normal jester effects/win conditions?

picking executioner will make the target default to doc (kinda like lawyer)

Must he still lynch the doctor to win?

picking survivor is like cit but gets vests

3 vests?

picking arson will allow you to douse people but will only burn evil roles*

Is undousing targets possible?

picking serial killer will revert you to a doc

What's the point of picking SK instead of Doc then? Makes more sense if you just say "not allowed."

picking corrupt journalist will allow you to post articles for yourself

Can't interview others then? Why would anyone ever pick this and why would anyone ever trust a journalist interviewing them?

picking witch will make you witch but town aligned

Strictly town aligned or can win with anyone?

picking consigliere will make you be a town-like investigator but sees exact (GF and jester will show citizen)

What does "town-like" mean? And so it doesn't see exact roles?

framer will show you who your target visit as well as what the target did (ignores immunity)

Isn't this way too strong? It's basically a consigliere, but better.

Be warned taking on a mafia role will make you susceptible to riff detections

Please don't use the word "riff," because it isn't a word. Write the full word so no confusion can come of this.

janitor: the mafia cleaner

• each night clean a role and last will if they die
• limit to 3 cleanings
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action
• may check already dead target to see last wills

Can the janitor read the last will of the targets he cleans the night they're killed?
Does checking a target for their last will use up a charge?

blackmailer: The mafia silencer

• each night you silence someone
• the person may not speak, may post "I am Blackmailed"
• may still vote
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

So the blackmailed target is free to communicate everything he knows through multiple choice questions asked by other players by saying "I am Blackmailed" X number of times or using votes on player A for answer A and player B for answer B, etc?

Sheriff: you are on the hunt for the mafia and evils

• sees Mafia, serial killer, gunsmith, as evil
• All others show not suspicious

Gunsmith? What about Arsonist?

[Dagaen]

Looks fun!
/presign

[Azuriae]

Do want!
/presign

[Sinclair]

This looks awesome.

/presign

[Azuriae]

So basically there will be no Citizens? Since we have multiple choices, I doubt anyone would pick Cit.

[Titus]

Gosh darn it. /presign. Finally.

[Slaol]

So basically there will be no Citizens? Since we have multiple choices, I doubt anyone would pick Cit.

I will.

[TheDarkestLight]

I will.

MVC right here.

[clementine]

/un-presign

Sorry ika, I don't know if I'll be able to dedicate as much time to this game as I previously thought due to my schedule.

[RLVG]

If everyone else is... /presign

[ika]

Please send me the "predetermined role sets" for each of the amnesiacs on the list in a PM.

Wildcard needs a LOT of additional explanation.

Picking jester will reveal all the evils and mafias roles when lynched OR have one evil/mafia role suicide if they voted on you

Is this in addition to normal jester effects/win conditions?

No, wildcard is town aligned if he is killed or not lynched and town wins, the wildcard is still eligible for a win

Picking executioner will make the target default to doc (kind of like lawyer)

Must he still lynch the doctor to win?
No he simply learns the identity of the doc; he retains the town win conditions, its just allows him to confirm the docs role

picking survivor is like cit but gets vests

3 vests?

Yes 3 vests (added in descrpition)

picking arson will allow you to douse people but will only burn evil roles*

Is undousing targets possible?

Meh sure why not, but will have a 1 night cd if undousing to allow a real arson to have a chance to do some damage

picking serial killer will revert you to a doc

What's the point of picking SK instead of Doc then? Makes more sense if you just say "not allowed."

Doc is a “unique” role (it cannot be spawned from the town ames) the only other way for him to take doc would be to wait for the first doc to die, also to stop a doc circle from going day 1 I am adding into the doctor rolecard that it can’t be healed

picking corrupt journalist will allow you to post articles for yourself

Can't interview others then? Why would anyone ever pick this and why would anyone ever trust a journalist interviewing them?

He can interview others, it’s just like he can now act like a crier, wildcard can say “hey im wildcard and this is what I think” or can create great WIFOM for a corrupt journal

picking witch will make you witch but town aligned

Strictly town aligned or can win with anyone?

Strictly town

picking consigliore will make you be a town-like investigator but sees exact (GF and jester will show citizen)

What does "town-like" mean? And so it doesn't see exact roles?

Wildcard is town aligned. If a sheriff checks him he will show mafia status, however he is basically a buffed investigator to the town, and it does see the exact role

framer will show you who your target visit as well as what the target did (ignores immunity)

Isn't this way too strong? It's basically a consigliore, but better.

The point of the wildcard to take mafia roles is to be a buffed up type role the downside is that sheriff will find you under a mafia setting and then can set you up for big trouble….

I will nerf this slightly though considering how powerful it is, it’s now ignores immunity but can only chose one of the feedbacks (who they visit or who visits them and must be told in pm), also due to this I have change the towns lookout and detective to not bypass immune detection

Be warned taking on a mafia role will make you susceptible to riff detections
Please don't use the word "riff," because it isn't a word. Write the full word so no confusion can come of this.

Fixed to say sheriff (im so used to using riff as sheriff XD)

janitor: the mafia cleaner


• each night clean a role and last will if they die
• limit to 3 cleanings
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action
• may check already dead target to see last wills
Can the janitor read the last will of the targets he cleans the night they're killed?
Does checking a target for their last will use up a charge?

anitor will gain a copy of the last will if cleaned (it was in mechanics but will add to roel card)
Checking an already dead targets will not consume a charge, the charges are strictly for cleanings (consider janitor to double over as mafia corner)

blackmailer: The mafia silencer


• each night you silence someone
• the person may not speak, may post "I am Blackmailed"
• may still vote
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

So the blackmailed target is free to communicate everything he knows through multiple choice questions asked by other players by saying "I am Blackmailed" X number of times or using votes on player A for answer A and player B for answer B, etc?

Well when you put it like that……
Changed role card for followings
Can post blackmailed once (can post it however they like aka size style whatever)
They may vote 2 times*
*Exception: if they are going to be the hammer voter they are allowed to go past the limit of 2

Sheriff: you are on the hunt for the mafia and evils


• sees Mafia, serial killer, gunsmith, as evil
• All others show not suspicious

Gunsmith? What about Arsonist?
Dunno where gunsmith came from, but replaced it with the arson

To elaborate on wildcard a little bit and maybe clarifies some things,

Wildcard is a town role and has town win conditions regardless of what role it takes (exception godfather)

If wildcard takes any of the neutral type roles (ie executioner/jester/witch/ect.) that have a different win condition it is ignored and retains towns win condition (if that makes sense)

Wildcard is suppose to be like that beefed up town role when taking the other type roles

Wildcard can take mafia roles and become a buffed version of town-like roles but the downside is that it makes them susceptible to a sheriff showing mafia/evil status, this is also a great play for WIFOM

Another thing with wildcard is that it was for me to kind of “loophole” more roles into the game (ie wildcard consig is like a town investigator, wildcard corrupt journal can double over as crier) im staying in the role limitations but just making the other roles fall into that role using mechanics

I am also hoping that with this wildcard that a lot of ppl will be tring to figure out if it’s the wildcard or some scum tring to WIFOM wildcard. The wildcard ames is such an “out there” type role that it will allow people to claim just about any role

[ika]

So basically there will be no Citizens? Since we have multiple choices, I doubt anyone would pick Cit.

dont forget i made cits win the 1v1 tie vs mafia, if everyone wants to go prs goahead but if it comes to 1v1 that one person that decided to take cit instead could be the winner of it

[BorkBot]

Another thing with wildcard is that it was for me to kind of “loophole” more roles into the game (ie wildcard consig is like a town investigator, wildcard corrupt journal can double over as crier) im staying in the role limitations but just making the other roles fall into that role using mechanics

No loopholes please. You basically just have too many roles now.

An altered win condition if spawned from the wildcard is fine. But giving roles new mechanics and functions makes each a new role entirely.

This is the case for wildcard roles:
jester
executioner
arsonist (if you simply allow the arsonist to undouse, a town aligned arsonist can already save allies from his mistakes. Would be less overpowered without the "only kills town" rule too)
blackmailer
framer
janitor

What I recommend:

- keep the wildcard amnesiac, but remove its ability to take a role mid-game (because this would also make the wildcard amnesiac himself a unique role, which makes you go over the limit)
- allow default arsonist to undouse, one night cooldown. You don't need special rules for the "town arsonist"
- add a separate list of roles wildcard amnesiac can take:

Possible wildcard roles: consigliere, doctor, coroner, sheriff, escort, lookout, detective, bus driver, journalist, citizen, witch, corrupt journalist, arsonist, survivor

Consort is redundant because of escort and from a town perspective there's no important roles the consort can block that the escort can't.

Exception to seeing jester/gf for consig is acceptable.

This also removes your weird "SK-that's-actually-another-role" that was originally there.

The possibility to take godfather or town killing roles is lost, but that's not that big of a deal because a killing option still exists, namely the arsonist.

[Mateo]

/presign if possible

[ika]

No loopholes please. You basically just have too many roles now.

fine.... i just always had trouble keeping my saves in 25 role limits

An altered win condition if spawned from the wildcard is fine. But giving roles new mechanics and functions makes each a new role entirely.

This is the case for wildcard roles:
jester
executioner
arsonist (if you simply allow the arsonist to undouse, a town aligned arsonist can already save allies from his mistakes. Would be less overpowered without the "only kills town" rule too)
blackmailer
framer
janitor

What I recommend:

- keep the wildcard amnesiac, but remove its ability to take a role mid-game (because this would also make the wildcard amnesiac himself a unique role, which makes you go over the limit)
- allow default arsonist to undouse, one night cooldown. You don't need special rules for the "town arsonist"
- add a separate list of roles wildcard amnesiac can take:

i think i fixed it all now. if theres sometheing else that needs fixing tell me. it took me some time to understadn what you were saying

Consort is redundant because of escort and from a town perspective there's no important roles the consort can block that the escort can't.

meh the consrot was to counder gf but it doesnt have much flxability, rmoved

Exception to seeing jester/gf for consig is acceptable.

sweet

This also removes your weird "SK-that's-actually-another-role" that was originally there.

done

The possibility to take godfather or town killing roles is lost, but that's not that big of a deal because a killing option still exists, namely the arsonist.

fair enough

k....

[ika]

WE NOW HAVE EPIC RP IN THE SETUP

[powerofdeath]

/presign

[BorkBot]

blackmailer: The mafia silencer

• each night you silence someone
• the person may not speak, may post "I am Blackmailed" once
• may vote 2 times (exceptions is hammer voitng, may make 3rd as hammer voter)
• may be sent for kill at expense of night action

What about unvoting?

Arsonist: you just want the world to burn

• douse someone each night
• dousing information is on

I see undousing and burning in the OoO, but they should also be mentioned here.

Are players informed of undousing?

Does the arsonist visit anyone when he burns his victims? What does a detective/lookout see?

Can he only burn at night or also at day?

Must the arsonist choose to either douse, undouse or burn or can he use multiple?

Is there one night cooldown between undousing actions?

jester: in insane individual who wants to die

• a guilty voter will die
• grief can be healed
• shows up citizen to wildcard

Is it a random guilty voter who dies or a specific one, such as the hammer vote?

Be warned taking on a mafia role will make you susceptible to sheriff detections

Shouldn't this also be true for picking arsonist?

picking arson will allow you to douse people*

What about burning all doused / undousing?

amnesiac remembers roles (all [except wildcard] must pick on day 1 or they will default to a citizen)
Wildcard takes role [anytime]

Since the wildcard's ability to pick a role at any time no longer applies, please fix these lines in the OoO.

amnesiac remembers role (wildcard only)

This line can now be removed.

wildcard action (if taken mafia role)

All this line does is allow the wildcard consigliere to ignore roleblocks, witching and bus driving. Framing is a non-issue because the framer rolecard doesn't say anything about manipulating consig information. Is this line necessary?

escort/consort roleblocks
witch controls (can force vet alert and susceptible to rb)
bus driver drives (canceled if witched or rbed)

Witch coming after escort/consort already means it's susceptible to roleblocks, so it doesn't have to be explicitly specified. Same is true for the bus driver (though it's useful to know witching also cancels bus driving rather than just redirecting one of his targets).

But can an escort/consort be witched? And are escort/consort and witch targets affected by bus driving?

Are there any visitation actions a detective/lookout can't see?

Journalist/corrupt journalist publishing article isn't in the OoO. Does this mean a journalist can still interview someone if they're jailed and does their article still appear if they are roleblocked in any way?

arson
serial killer
citizen (only against the mafia)
mafia
witch/corrupt journalist (wins with above, excption is the citizen tie)
town
survivor
executioner with win (must live to end)
jester (none must be standing and jester must of been lynched)

Having survivor, executioner and jester listed like this is very misleading. It implies that these roles can't win unless others above them lose. Unlike in SC2 mafia, there is no splash screen in forum mafia to make solo victories for these roles any different from winning alongside anyone else.

The need for more clarity is amplified by the fact that the jester and survivor win conditions aren't explicitly mentioned anywhere in the setup but here.

More thoroughly explained winning conditions, even just adding a note that they can win with anyone else, would be helpful.


Oh, and I still see "riff" in several places...

[Titus]

Can you give citizen a vest?

[ika]

What about unvoting?
does not count towards the limit but they are not allowed to spam the unvotes as communications

I see undousing and burning in the OoO, but they should also be mentioned here.

Are players informed of undousing?

no

Does the arsonist visit anyone when he burns his victims? What does a detective/lookout see?

arsonist will be "visiting" himself, lookouts would see target visti self, detective would get target did something but did not move or something like that

Can he only burn at night or also at day?

added in the day burning but it will activate a 1 night cooldown scince arson wins alone

Must the arsonist choose to either douse, undouse or burn or can he use multiple?

only one

Is there one night cooldown between undousing actions?

wildcard, yes. regular arson, no

Is it a random guilty voter who dies or a specific one, such as the hammer vote?

the jester may decide, if the jester pick none i will random it

Shouldn't this also be true for picking arsonist?

probally, added

What about burning all doused / undousing?

added in

Since the wildcard's ability to pick a role at any time no longer applies, please fix these lines in the OoO.

gone

This line can now be removed.

gone

All this line does is allow the wildcard consigliere to ignore roleblocks, witching and bus driving. Framing is a non-issue because the framer rolecard doesn't say anything about manipulating consig information. Is this line necessary?

i think it was more for the consort but meh if its only one role i dont need it

Witch coming after escort/consort already means it's susceptible to roleblocks, so it doesn't have to be explicitly specified. Same is true for the bus driver (though it's useful to know witching also cancels bus driving rather than just redirecting one of his targets).

But can an escort/consort be witched? And are escort/consort and witch targets affected by bus driving?

the can technacly be witched but will not be redirected, the reason i have it like this is to try to avoid a paradox where bus driving gets redirected into an escort, if escort is targeted by witch they will recived the wtiched feedback but not be redirected


Are there any visitation actions a detective/lookout can't see?

godfathers actions


Journalist/corrupt journalist publishing article isn't in the OoO. Does this mean a journalist can still interview someone if they're jailed and does their article still appear if they are roleblocked in any way?


added in OoO and in role cards to state rbing/jailing or killed will prevent article

Having survivor, executioner and jester listed like this is very misleading. It implies that these roles can't win unless others above them lose. Unlike in SC2 mafia, there is no splash screen in forum mafia to make solo victories for these roles any different from winning alongside anyone else.

The need for more clarity is amplified by the fact that the jester and survivor win conditions aren't explicitly mentioned anywhere in the setup but here.

think you missed the win conditions above it. i stated them all there. thats the 1v1 scnarios

More thoroughly explained winning conditions, even just adding a note that they can win with anyone else, would be helpful.


Oh, and I still see "riff" in several places...

ok that should do it

@titus citizens already win the 1v1 tie, i will consider adding the vest idea though. it will depend on how many pple talke cit, what i could do is so what slaol always would do is that fina cit gets a free vest

[Titus]

ok that should do it

@titus citizens already win the 1v1 tie, i will consider adding the vest idea though. it will depend on how many pple talke cit, what i could do is so what slaol always would do is that fina cit gets a free vest

You have to make up your mind before the game starts. But yeah, last citizen gets a vest is a good idea. RP it as each citizen has a part of a code. On their death, they reveal part of the code. The last citizen has the whole code.

[ika]

You have to make up your mind before the game starts. But yeah, last citizen gets a vest is a good idea. RP it as each citizen has a part of a code. On their death, they reveal part of the code. The last citizen has the whole code.

hmmm now i need to make up a code.....

in b4 we only get one cit XD

also adding it to role card that last cit gets vest

[Titus]

hmmm now i need to make up a code.....

in b4 we only get one cit XD

also adding it to role card that last cit gets vest

RP a lock on the vest. You don't actually have to give the citizens the code. ;)

Then PM the citizen saying, you now have a vest.

[42shadow42]

/presign

[TheDarkestLight]

/presign

I'm normally not a fan of pre signing... but it seems this might be full if I don't...

[ika]

added in the rulings on sucide.

i know titus would want some clarification on that ;)

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[Hypersniper]

Wait where did my presign go or what I presigned on page 1 hummmmmmm

[AppleyNO]

/presign!

[ika]

Wait where did my presign go or what I presigned on page 1 hummmmmmm

you were banned so i took you off presigns. i can put you on reserves though

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ITS A GO TIME!

[Hypersniper]

Ok so I'm on reseves