Commisioned Town Roles Voting Thread

[Elixir]

You will all get 1 vote towards the role you want to see added. The 2 roles with the highest votes will be added into the game, provided Dark.Revenant is able to code them in. We reserve the right to exclude a winning role and move to the next in line should it not be able to be added within the set timeline/at all.

The roles and their descriptions are included below for your convenience. Please note, the Names of these roles and the wording of their descriptions are subject to change. Their abilities are not.

** We're trying to blend these guys together because alone they're horrible. I still think a role that exists only to die is retarded but there it is.

The poll will expire after 7 days.

[Slaol]

if crier is ever implemented, pls make it a unique role.

This is my entire case. Roles that need to be unique based on game-play, not RP (like Mayor/Godfather, there are only 1 of those) should not exist.

[Cryptonic]

I voted Architect.
However, I would prefer if the Architect couldn't enter/view the chat, and it only being between his 2 targets. But I like the idea of the role a lot.

[Voss]

timestopper and marshall are so close to each other..

[Lazers]

Why only one vote?

This is my entire case. Roles that need to be unique based on game-play, not RP (like Mayor/Godfather, there are only 1 of those) should not exist.

Spy.










also Godfather is also gameplay unique since usually it's so damn strong

and because kill controlling

[Slaol]

Spy.

Spy really should not exist in it's current form. Stay tuned.

[Auckmid]

I'm surprised your letting Hunter into the poll:P

Edit:

** We're trying to blend these guys together because alone they're horrible. I still think a role that exists only to die is retarded but there it is.

There it is.


Marshall is my top choice, Architect is my second. I'll wait a bit before voting in case a point difference occurs.

[Lazers]

Spy really should not exist in it's current form. Stay tuned.

I got a bad feeling about this

What's next, antiMayor?

[Slaol]

I got a bad feeling about this

What's next, antiMayor?

Nah. Mayor is basically fine as is. Especially with the progression of claims recently.

[CmG]

I still need someone to explain to me how an architect benefits the game when nights are 45 secs long. Does a mafia have to attend 2 night chats when he gets invited? How does this work with the U.I.?

[Damus_Graves]

Misclicked >>

[clementine]

Not really sure why you would need an architect if the town already has PMs that can be used to chat with whoever you want to during the day.

Since I only get one vote, I'll have to think about it, but I think the architect is a waste of coding space.

[Damus_Graves]

I think most of us are hoping to have architect cause pubs to extend their night phases.

[vornksr]

Suggested By: Ash

:'(

[vornksr]

Not really sure why you would need an architect if the town already has PMs that can be used to chat with whoever you want to during the day.

Not all setups necessarily have pm's enabled, and if the conversation is anonymous there's some room for lying that doesn't exist in pm's.

[CmG]

All setups have pms enabled on NA. What are you talking about? Wut?

[Slaol]

Not really sure why you would need an architect if the town already has PMs that can be used to chat with whoever you want to during the day.

Since I only get one vote, I'll have to think about it, but I think the architect is a waste of coding space.

Actually, yea. I don't see it adding much thanks to 35 second nights and the 100% chance for PMs. Enchantress it is.

[Voss]

marshall's going to be epic...

[creedkingsx]

Going to have to go with Enchantress.
I don't particularly like any of them, but Enchantress is the best of them.

[louiswill]

can I still make more suggestion? I think

my suggestion, activist

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...838-Activitist

deserve as much chance as crier and hunter.

[creedkingsx]

deserve as much chance as crier and hunter.

they don't really deserve a chance, though.

We made it pretty clear to leave suggestions in the previous thread.

[louiswill]

they don't really deserve a chance, though.

We made it pretty clear to leave suggestions in the previous thread.

I left suggestion last week, no one updated the thread.

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#183 on previous thread.

[creedkingsx]

I left suggestion last week, no one updated the thread.

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#183 on previous thread.

You left suggestions for Vote Clerk which nobody backed you on.
I left suggestion for PhD and Boss backed me on it, and I believe someone else did as well and it didn't make it in.

[louiswill]

You left suggestions for Vote Clerk which nobody backed you on.
I left suggestion for PhD and Boss backed me on it, and I believe someone else did as well and it didn't make it in.

Yes, I also asked DR, he said vote clerk is easy to code, as I intended(many of the suggestions are hard to code...), but it is not favored. So I changed to Activist.

Isn't it wierd enough that my suggestion doesn't even get flamed at all?

[Deantwo]

out of all the roles in the poll... i like Crier best... but still feel that Crier need some work... and maybe a better name...

other then that... not a huge fan of the roles in the poll...

still think a Lawyer or something like that... that messes with vote counts would be interesting... like whoever the Lawyer visit at night... will start on the voting with -1... in other words... the person would need one vote extra to be put on the stand/lynch... and/or so they have a INNO vote extra coming from nowhere
rather to be Mafia, Town, or Neutral... no idea... but a way of protecting people from being lynched

[Ash]

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lmfao thats probably like the only role i've ever suggested...

[Fatalis]

I'll +1 the crier because it seems to be the most fun
And sc2mafia is 90% fun 10% wins

[Slaol]

I'll +1 the crier because it seems to be the most fun
And sc2mafia is 90% fun 10% wins

Returns to FM roots and shoots Fatalis.

[Lazers]

Well, since Crier is gonna lose and since the concept of getting instafucked by an enchantress as scum is retarded (much like escort and jailor instantly dooming SK n1, because that's so much fun and deep), I'm voting Marshall

Architect is coo', although I can't see it helping the currently dead Mafia chat

Marshall + Mayor saves would be interesting to say the least

[Deantwo]

Well, since Crier is gonna lose and since the concept of getting instafucked by an enchantress as scum is retarded (much like escort and jailor instantly dooming SK n1, because that's so much fun and deep), I'm voting Marshall

Architect is coo', although I can't see it helping the currently dead Mafia chat

Marshall + Mayor saves would be interesting to say the least

i agree... the roles in this poll aren't all that interesting...

[CmG]

i agree... the roles in this poll aren't all that interesting...

Thats because town is already strong as fuck with the roles which are already in game. I never felt like. "Damn town needs this and that. Because town is lacking" A wider varity of benign , evil neuts is more fun i guess. They can add a lot more game changing mechanics than town roles.

I wonder if it will be like Marshall automaticly excludes Mayor in setups. We will see. It probably should.

[Apache]

Thats because town is already strong as fuck with the roles which are already in game. I never felt like. "Damn town needs this and that. Because town is lacking" A wider varity of benign , evil neuts is more fun i guess. They can add a lot more game changing mechanics than town roles.

+1, new neutrals would be cool. but still town loses too often because of the noobs ;) *misses ranked*

[Voss]

Thats because town is already strong as fuck with the roles which are already in game. I never felt like. "Damn town needs this and that. Because town is lacking" A wider varity of benign , evil neuts is more fun i guess. They can add a lot more game changing mechanics than town roles.

I wonder if it will be like Marshall automaticly excludes Mayor in setups. We will see. It probably should.

why should it?

[creedkingsx]

I agree with CmG.
Marshall plus mayor=ez mode.
Unlimited lynches, confirmed town, almost guaranteed majority, if not, will have it soon enough; and another confirmed town.

If trial pauses day, which it usually does, easy fucking win right there.

[CmG]

why should it?

Because neuts are factionless. So you can give them abilities which benefit just them to achieve their goals. Also their abilities can be stronger as well. You have just more free room designing them.

[vornksr]

The original architect was a lot more complicated than simply creating a night chat, and entirely impossible from a practical standpoint. The simplified version proposed at the end of the thread was this: the architect creates a partial roleblock effect. People inside the architect chat can only target each other (and possibly can't be targeted from the outside, much like jail chat).

[BorkBot]

I still need someone to explain to me how an architect benefits the game when nights are 45 secs long. Does a mafia have to attend 2 night chats when he gets invited? How does this work with the U.I.?

The biggest problem would seem to me if a kidnapper got invited.

3 chats at once.

And spy would see mafia talk in architect chat (lol)

Tbh, spy needs its option to disable "see mafia night chat" back. Seeing other people's night chats breaks this game at its core. It's fine just seeing mafia targets.

[creedkingsx]

Spy: See ALL the chats.

[Jim]

Are the architect's people like jailed because that would be super OP if he could jail 2 mafias.

[BorkBot]

Spy: See ALL the chats.

Arf. Totally borked.

I used to find it fun to include spies in my setups because of nice dynamics with lookout and detective. But seeing night chats, it's just a game breaker.

[Logante]

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat? "Hey guys, this is "Name Here", send me all your roles tomorrow and I'll leave it all in LW. Only the town sees his message, and the town knows he's a confirmed town crier, so there's absolute trust both ways and there's no reason for lies. Sounds like a game breaker, to me.

[Slaol]

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat? "Hey guys, this is "Name Here", send me all your roles tomorrow and I'll leave it all in LW. Only the town sees his message, and the town knows he's a confirmed town crier, so there's absolute trust both ways and there's no reason for lies. Sounds like a game breaker, to me.

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat?

cheat?

Wut?

It isn't a 'cheat'. However...

Sounds like a game breaker, to me.

It is this. ^

[louiswill]

who said crier gonna lose????

[Elixir]

marshall isnt infinite lynches btw. I'll be balancing it pretty hard.

[Deantwo]

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat? "Hey guys, this is "Name Here", send me all your roles tomorrow and I'll leave it all in LW. Only the town sees his message, and the town knows he's a confirmed town crier, so there's absolute trust both ways and there's no reason for lies. Sounds like a game breaker, to me.

when it says "entire town" it's meant as "EVERYONE IN GAME" not just Townies... it's a common thing to confuse...

[Numbertwo]

It would be a disaster if both crier and marshall was implemented. 2 Roles that can Instantly confirm themselves as town if they want to.

[BorkBot]

It would be a disaster if both crier and marshall was implemented. 2 Roles that can Instantly confirm themselves as town if they want to.

The new troll setup:
Mayor
Marshall
Crier
Spy
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Mafia
Mafia
Mafia
Neut
Neut
Neut

[Cryptonic]

AHHHH Pls no Crier unless Jester is given the Crier ability.... Confirmed towns r teh lame.
Also, I miss the days when Spy could partake in Mason chat =[ Can we bring back that setting? lol


Also, Architect would be awesome imo. But, I turn off PMs in my games (so funny to see mayor reveal d2 and go "PM me roles" LOL). But also, I think Architect can connect town members anonymously without scum knowing that this information had passed between them. Seriously, if ppl are PMing in your game, the smartest thing to do as scum is kill them. So if you can secretly be talking to eachother without scum knowing, then it would be beneficial towards the town.

[Numbertwo]

I think we should be allowed to have 2 choices, i doubt people that vote for marshall will have crier as their 2nd choice.

[Lazers]

AHHHH Pls no Crier unless Jester is given the Crier ability.... Confirmed towns r teh lame.
Also, I miss the days when Spy could partake in Mason chat =[ Can we bring back that setting? lol


Also, Architect would be awesome imo. But, I turn off PMs in my games (so funny to see mayor reveal d2 and go "PM me roles" LOL). But also, I think Architect can connect town members anonymously without scum knowing that this information had passed between them. Seriously, if ppl are PMing in your game, the smartest thing to do as scum is kill them. So if you can secretly be talking to eachother without scum knowing, then it would be beneficial towards the town.

I agree with the anti-crier suggestion and endorse it

could be interesting

I think we should be allowed to have 2 choices, i doubt people that vote for marshall will have crier as their 2nd choice.

I think a single vote is more representative of what people want the most, although I will agree that Marshall + Crier isn't a very great combo

but honestly if it means enshitress not getting in I'm fine with it