M-FM XIII Amnesia Town Gamethread

[CmG]

Well then i should better write my last will then. Such a pity!

[Dust]

Well then i should better write my last will then. Such a pity!

Why so anti-town?

[CmG]

Why so tunnel visioned on vets instead of the scum b4 you? Replaced scum?

[Dust]

Why so tunnel visioned on vets instead of the scum b4 you? Replaced scum?

I'm not tunnel-visioning you. You only want others to think that. I am working at this problem because at the moment, I can do nothing to fix the "lynch Bahkieh" campaign.

[CmG]

Ok This day is already on for 30 hours and no one even tried to discuss how Brendan died. He was shot from a Veteran rifle right? Could be fabricator as well. Now we have 1 kill. I wouldn't be surprised if mafia shot him last night. I saw no one claiming succesful veteran. Ideas?

[CmG]

Shoot him at night and lynch chill Kid. Can't be that hard now can it?

[Goremancer]

Le me trying to take back my lottery. T___T

[Goremancer]

In fms, dont be a pussy. Be a smart pussy.

[Bahkieh]

Strange, it appears as if bahkieh was busdriven, perhaps with ubernox (?)

If we are not notified of being driven... then its possible

[Cryptonic]

I told you I killed someone last night as veteran.

[Cryptonic]

CmG is really pushing for a lynch.
CmG = Executioner?

[Bahkieh]

Are people notified of witching?

Also...all hail the hypnotoad

[CmG]

CmG is really pushing for a lynch.
CmG = Executioner?

Lol wish i was Executioner, Chill Kid is a save bet.

[Bahkieh]

Lol wish i was Executioner, Chill Kid is a save bet.

I'm a safer bet. Why not me?

[CmG]

You have no vest he has. You should be shot tonight.

[Bahkieh]

Shoot him twice

[Kromos]

Today hasn't been used well. Most people don't seem interested in pressure voting or are lurking hard so we haven't got many claims. We lynch Bahkieh today not Chill Kidd who could easily be town. LeaD is a good target for the town KPN since he claimed jester and could be the student or other scum.

-vote Bahkieh

I received a vest last night. I don't know if that means Chill is lying about his or we had 2 armoursmiths last night. As usual more ability claims would help.

[Dust]

CmG doesn't realize how Chill could be town. That's pretty stupid and anti-town.


CmG, claim goddammit.

[Capitalier]

CmG doesn't realize how Chill could be town. That's pretty stupid and anti-town.


CmG, claim goddammit.

Yeah.

But he's scum until we have an armorsmith claim.

[Capitalier]

Notification Claims

Chill Kidd - Received armour, roleblocked
LeaD - Bussed
Cryptonic - Shot someone during alert
Kromos - Received armour

Ability Claims

Player	Alignment	Night 1 Roles	Night 1 Result	Night 2 Roles	Night 2 Result	Night 3 Roles	Night 3 Result	Night 4 Roles	Night 4 Result
Goremancer				Detective	Auckmid visited no one
Fatalis	Town Power	Doctor / Detective	Healed Cryptonic	Mafioso / Vigilante	Shot Bahkieh	Gunsmith / Framer
Glip				DEAD
Bahkieh	Town Power	Vigilante / Blackmailer	Blackmailed Bluejay
ReauxTzunami	Town Power	Sleuth / Fabricator	Check Cryptonic - No LW	Bus Driver /
Ubernox	Town Power	Detective	CmG visited LeaD			DEAD
Kromos	Town Power	Mason Leader / Doctor	Recruited Cryptonic (Failed)	Journalist / Lawyer	Interviewed Bluejay
Bluejay	Town Power	Bus Driver	Swapped Chill Kidd + Kromos	Sleuth / Actress	Read CmG - No LW
Capitalier	Town Power	Bodyguard / Escort	Guard Kromos, watch pebrock	Mason Leader / Veteran	Alert
Cryptonic	Citizen	Bus Driver	Swapped CmG + pebrock	Veteran	Alert
Brendan	Mafia	Vigilante / Coroner	Shot Jr4life24			DEAD
ajkei		Sleuth	Read Brendan - "fuck tits nigger"
Auckmid	Town Power	Armoursmith / Kidnapper	Gave armour
Jr4life24	Mafia	Vigilante	Shot Auckmid	DEAD
Chill Kidd	Citizen	Bus Driver	Swapped Cryptonic + LeaD	Mafioso		Corrupt Journalist
Nick		Doctor	Healed Kromos
FrostByte				Escort
LeaD	Benign Neutral	Jester		Jester		Jester
Dust	Town Power					Vigilante
CmG

This leaves ajkei, Nick, Dust, and CmG as the armorsmiths. Yet ...

[CmG]

No one with a sane mind would give Chill Kid armor. I call bullox.

[Cryptonic]

It's true, I don't get it either.
But what if he's just wifoming so he doesn't get shot at night? Very possible.

However, I think when FrostByte comes back he should claim what role(s) he got n1 and what he did.

[Dust]

I/Rocshi certainly did not give Chill Kid armor

[Kromos]

This leaves ajkei, Nick, Dust, and CmG as the armorsmiths. Yet ...

If no one has lied in their claims so far Reaux, Ubernox, Brendan and Bahkieh could have given armour. Reaux said he chose not to use his bus driver ability. I don't think he has said what he used instead.

[FrostByte]

It's true, I don't get it either.
But what if he's just wifoming so he doesn't get shot at night? Very possible.

However, I think when FrostByte comes back he should claim what role(s) he got n1 and what he did.

I already told you what I did n1 and n2. Reeeead.

[FrostByte]

It's true, I don't get it either.
But what if he's just wifoming so he doesn't get shot at night? Very possible.

However, I think when FrostByte comes back he should claim what role(s) he got n1 and what he did.

What about you?
I see you claimed cit, then had BD n1 and vet n2, according to Cap's (awesome) night actions table.
Just a double-check - is that information accurate?

[FrostByte]

Wow, I feel badly for missing this.
Herp.
Anyhow, didn't perform an action night 1 by choice.
Night 2 I RBed Chill Kidd.

In case you don't feel like digging for it.

[FrostByte]

@Nick, why did you heal Kromos night 1? & why have you not claimed your night 2 action yet?

[Cryptonic]

But what were your choices?
So we can know why you chose not to

[Cryptonic]

What about you?
I see you claimed cit, then had BD n1 and vet n2, according to Cap's (awesome) night actions table.
Just a double-check - is that information accurate?

Yes. That graph is correct for me.
And I killed someone last night as veteran.

[Dust]

CmG, that gun is still at your head. I've been thinking. You act like a neutral. No one cares if a neutral dies. Claim.

[FrostByte]

CmG, that gun is still at your head. I've been thinking. You act like a neutral. No one cares if a neutral dies. Claim.

We do care if a neutral dies, especially if he's ghost and it's to a town gun.

[Dust]

We do care if a neutral dies, especially if he's ghost and it's to a town gun.

He's not acting like a ghost, to me at least

[FrostByte]

But what were your choices?
So we can know why you chose not to

Vet and Framer.
Framer =/= helping town in any given situation, really
Vet =/= helping town, as odds were I would have killed a town if anyone had visited me.

[FrostByte]

*cough*

[Dust]

Vet and Framer.
Framer =/= helping town in any given situation, really
Vet =/= helping town, as odds were I would have killed a town if anyone had visited me.

Good for not doing evil to the town. UNLIKE Bahkieh....

[FrostByte]

At the end of day 2, the RP says that Chill Kidd and Bahkieh visited Bluejay, yet, in the (awesome) actions claim table, there's no mention of Chill visiting Bluejay night 2.
Why?
And if Bahkieh were a townie, why would he blackmail someone? That's just not very productive to town at all IMO, unless they're confirmed scum.

[Dust]

At the end of day 2, the RP says that Chill Kidd and Bahkieh visited Bluejay, yet, in the (awesome) actions claim table, there's no mention of Chill visiting Bluejay night 2.
Why?
And if Bahkieh were a townie, why would he blackmail someone? That's just not very productive to town at all IMO, unless they're confirmed scum.

My theory is this: Chill was framed and Bahkieh is mafia. IMHO it makes the most sense. Ockham's razor, logic, etc.

[FrostByte]

I guess I should amend my earlier statement -
Framer could be potentially helpful to town. If the townie framer frames a fellow townie as neutral and the mafia consig visits them, then they will get a bad reading.

WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM

[Dust]

I guess I should amend my earlier statement -
Framer could be potentially helpful to town. If the townie framer frames a fellow townie as neutral and the mafia consig visits them, then they will get a bad reading.

WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM

Interesting....

What's also interesting and shames the lurkers is that you used to lurk but are having a discussion with me. They be stupid.

[CmG]

Thats the problem with framing, IF a mafia would go out and frame somebody on N1 he would probably frame the one guy who he thinks is mafia. So he could let him look like town and establish his night chat on the same night looking pro town. Win win for scum. I seriously doubt somebody went on N1 framing Kromos as mafia if he doesn't even know his allies. But oh well.

[FrostByte]

My theory is this: Chill was framed and Bahkieh is mafia. IMHO it makes the most sense. Ockham's razor, logic, etc.

Framer can't make someone look like they visited someone else.
I mean, he could have been witched, or some other circumstances could have falsely made him look suspicious, but I don't think him being FRAMED is what happened.
Bahkieh is scummy to me as of this moment, and Ajkei looks scummy too, just because he wanted me modkilled yesterday and now he's lurking.

[FrostByte]

Thats the problem with framing, IF a mafia would go out and frame somebody on N1 he would probably frame the one guy who he thinks is mafia. So he could let him look like town and establish his night chat on the same night looking pro town. Win win for scum. I seriously doubt somebody went on N1 framing Kromos as mafia if he doesn't even know his allies. But oh well.

Good point.
Stranger shit with even more astronomical odds has happened in FM, though.We just gotta keep a mind open to the possibilities.

[Dust]

Thats the problem with framing, IF a mafia would go out and frame somebody on N1 he would probably frame the one guy who he thinks is mafia. So he could let him look like town and establish his night chat on the same night looking pro town. Win win for scum. I seriously doubt somebody went on N1 framing Kromos as mafia if he doesn't even know his allies. But oh well.

Wut?

Don't you mean Chill Kid?

I don't think any mafia thought Chill Kid was mafia based on the fact that he claimed citizen with only two other claims with three citizens in the setup. Your logic makes sense in a hypothetical standpoint but for the situation at hand it's stupid.

[Bahkieh]

I gave armour to everyone. Suck on that.

Tbh I never paid enough attention to my rolecard to know that I could decide to not take an action.

[Dust]

Framer can't make someone look like they visited someone else.
I mean, he could have been witched, or some other circumstances could have falsely made him look suspicious, but I don't think him being FRAMED is what happened.
Bahkieh is scummy to me as of this moment, and Ajkei looks scummy too, just because he wanted me modkilled yesterday and now he's lurking.

Did you not read the amendment to option C late in day 2? It said that framed targets have a 50% chance to be shown having visited the person we vote.

[FrostByte]

Interesting....

What's also interesting and shames the lurkers is that you used to lurk but are having a discussion with me. They be stupid.

I actually wasn't lurking. I was busy for a couple days.
I'm still busy now, but I have a decent break between classes today and I feel like using that to actually stimulate my brain with some FM.
(my next class is about teaching general music in elementary school... I think I'd rather die first, but it's part of my major sooooo I gotta learn it.)

[FrostByte]

Did you not read the amendment to option C late in day 2? It said that framed targets have a 50% chance to be shown having visited the person we vote.

Fuck me. No, I didn't see that.

See? This is why I like to discuss things with people. Other people see things that I herp and miss.
Thanks for the heads up.

[Dust]

Fuck me. No, I didn't see that.

See? This is why I like to discuss things with people. Other people see things that I herp and miss.
Thanks for the heads up.

I think it's on post #276 or something. See what I mean?

[FrostByte]

K, g2g. I'll be back laterrrrr, maybe before day ends.

Fuck you Ajkei, you lurky bastard. I see you lurking. Better post, bitch.