M-FM XIII Amnesia Town Gamethread

[Dust]

Claims neutral.. Claims get lookout

See how I failed there?

[Fatalis]

See how I failed there?

I bet your mafia buddy is Auckmid

[Dust]

I bet your mafia buddy is Auckmid

I can prove that I'm neutral. Allow me one night with FrostByte, even thought he's not online very often and so a chat with him will be very boring.

[Fatalis]

I can prove that I'm neutral. Allow me one night with FrostByte, even thought he's not online very often and so a chat with him will be very boring.

Still don't trust you, but -vote Auckmid, town KPN shoot Nick and we'll deal with Dust tomorrow if he lies

[Dust]

Still don't trust you, but -vote Auckmid, town KPN shoot Nick and we'll deal with Dust tomorrow if he lies

You think that it is easy to fake being pro-town as mafia? No, my friend. I tried that once and failed. I can only do it as neutral. You can check my FM history. I'm telling you the truth.

[Fatalis]

You think that it is easy to fake being pro-town as mafia? No, my friend. I tried that once and failed. I can only do it as neutral. You can check my FM history. I'm telling you the truth.

Nah even if I trust you it doesn't matter anymore :P Town has won ^ ^




















































































































UNLESS I'M THE GODFATHER

[ReauxTzunami]

Too many WIFOM cross-claims. Someone's going to give and slip up. If Dust really is Neutral and Fatalis is really GF, Fata calling out Auckmid would mean he's taking the heat off of his partner-in-crime. Considering Citizens are forced to use their only role at night, maybe he managed to recruit Chill Kidd earlier in the game and by luck of the draw he managed to get Jailer finally. Tricky tricky WIFOM indeed.

[Dust]

Too many WIFOM cross-claims. Someone's going to give and slip up. If Dust really is Neutral and Fatalis is really GF, Fata calling out Auckmid would mean he's taking the heat off of his partner-in-crime. Considering Citizens are forced to use their only role at night, maybe he managed to recruit Chill Kidd earlier in the game and by luck of the draw he managed to get Jailer finally. Tricky tricky WIFOM indeed.

Now it's up to you and Frosty to decide. Which means you, since Frosty takes the lurker side of the spectrum.

[ReauxTzunami]

Now it's up to you and Frosty to decide. Which means you, since Frosty takes the lurker side of the spectrum.

Sad, but true, that the decision is left in my hands, when the leader just revealed. I'm at a couple different forks where any of this could go in any way, and I don't want to end up overthinking it when the answer is sitting there and I keep missing it. Luckily I still have 12 hours before the days ends, enough time for some sleep.

By your claims, it clearly points you in a Town/Mafia direction. Reading the reports of other players, as well as cross-analyzing some of your information after each night, it seems like you targeted the person that had the biggest presence during each day and made up a quick report to make it pass as you were a Town Power. Gore's Consig report pointed you into Neutral territory, but that was the same day you covered Glip's autopsy, which I touched on the day before. As well, the fact that I healed you on the fourth night, which would of been something to keep in until someone claimed against you, could have been done by the SK or Mafia. Still, out of all the data, it points you more toward a Neutral hiding as a Town Power, as you said.

[LeaD]

No it's not, it's Frost or You

I TOOK YOUR GUN AND SHOT GORE WITH IT NIGGAH, I'M A WITCH
-vote Dust

i also claimed that Frost is town (second townread) since you would have never taken GS as maf/gf
i witched frost last night aswell as Auckmid, targeting myself/himself

no kill so he's cleared of being maf killing role, revealing as mayor more so than anything.

Bye Dust. Nick might be wifoming hard again though

[ReauxTzunami]

As well, now that I look at it, Chill is still a citizen, for right now at least if we don't find the Godfather in the next 11 hours. Fatalis has an empty claim for the third night, which was the whole Gunsmith fiasco. I need to know what you're roles/actions were last night. For now though, between LeaD's consistent Jester claims (at least in Kromos' table), and how silent Auckmid has been all game, especially since he apparently rolled Witch twice in a row now.

Another thing to think about: the first night was our insta-death Mafia member who targeted Auckmid. To be 100% sure, do KPNs that are role-blocked count? Meaning, if two Vigilantes are attacking various targets, but one gets blocked before the attack comes up in the Chain, does the other count as the one kill? I'm noticing that the first kill all game was made by the Godfather, since the most recent GF kill was also a shot to the head. I'm thinking the Godfather noticed he screwed up from the start and decided to abstain from the game for a short while, hoping to prevent killing off another teammate of his. Auckmid and Fatalis have done a good job staying away from the game, which would ride right along my theory for the first kill of the game and Auckmid/Fatalis staying out of the light.

[ReauxTzunami]

To be 100% sure, do KPNs that are role-blocked count? Meaning, if two Vigilantes are attacking various targets, but one gets blocked before the attack comes up in the Chain, does the other count as the one kill?

And to expand on this idea: Night immune roles absorb that factions KPN, correct?

[ReauxTzunami]

Alright, considering last night had two deaths, I'll try to simplify this the best I've noticed it:

8 players left. 3 Town, 3 Neutral, 2 Mafia.
Frost, Chill and myself are the three town: Leader, Citizen and Power respectively.
Nick has been trustworthy for a while, Dust just slipped up and mentioned he was Neutral, LeaD just said he witched the gunsmith gun.
This places Fatalis and Auckmid as the Mafia.

If the situation is with a 4:1 Town/Mafia ratio, this would put Fatalis as the trusted townie. His recent outburst makes me think otherwise, but at this point we at least need some confirmed and solid information and this is the best short analysis I can come up with. I'm tired and I'll get back to it when I wake up.

[LeaD]

Alright, considering last night had two deaths, I'll try to simplify this the best I've noticed it:

8 players left. 3 Town, 3 Neutral, 2 Mafia.
Frost, Chill and myself are the three town: Leader, Citizen and Power respectively.
Nick has been trustworthy for a while, Dust just slipped up and mentioned he was Neutral, LeaD just said he witched the gunsmith gun.
This places Fatalis and Auckmid as the Mafia.

If the situation is with a 4:1 Town/Mafia ratio, this would put Fatalis as the trusted townie. His recent outburst makes me think otherwise, but at this point we at least need some confirmed and solid information and this is the best short analysis I can come up with. I'm tired and I'll get back to it when I wake up.

i've been telling you guys that since the start of the day

[LeaD]

and you do realize i didn't claim jester because i actually got it? why should i ever reveal my current benign neutral role if it involves risking a lynch on myself.
i'm going drinking for the rest of the night, just lynch dust or the second most scummiest person.
i'm witch today.

[Escaho]

To be 100% sure, do KPNs that are role-blocked count? Meaning, if two Vigilantes are attacking various targets, but one gets blocked before the attack comes up in the Chain, does the other count as the one kill?

Yes, KPN that is role-blocked counts as that faction's KPN, assuming the person being role-blocked was the one who submitted the first kill action.

If Vigilante A sends me his PM first and shoots victim A, but is role-blocked by victim B, Vigilante A will attempt to shoot and be role-blocked. If Vigilante B then sends me a PM shooting victim B, his shot will fail and he will not be informed of this. Both victims will live.

Night immune roles absorb that factions KPN, correct?

If you mean that Vigilante A shoots a night immune role and then Vigilante B wants to shoot someone else, the night immune role will soak up Vigilante A's kill and Vigilante B will fail his shot.

Pretty sure I covered this in the FAQ and in this thread already...

[FrawstByte]

If I get roleblocked and witched in the same night, would I still visit the target I was witched on to?

If the answer is no, then Dust just failed hard at his gambit.

[FrawstByte]

Fuck it,

-vote Dust
Regardless of the outcome, he's scummy and just tried to get town leader lynched.

[FrawstByte]

Alright, considering last night had two deaths, I'll try to simplify this the best I've noticed it:

8 players left. 3 Town, 3 Neutral, 2 Mafia.
Frost, Chill and myself are the three town: Leader, Citizen and Power respectively.
Nick has been trustworthy for a while, Dust just slipped up and mentioned he was Neutral, LeaD just said he witched the gunsmith gun.
This places Fatalis and Auckmid as the Mafia.

If the situation is with a 4:1 Town/Mafia ratio, this would put Fatalis as the trusted townie. His recent outburst makes me think otherwise, but at this point we at least need some confirmed and solid information and this is the best short analysis I can come up with. I'm tired and I'll get back to it when I wake up.

From FAQ:
"Neutral Roles

The possible neutral roles are: Executioner, Jester, Ghost, Student, Survivor, and Witch."

There's no lookout there. Dust, while claiming neutral, just tried to get a townie lynched. I've made it fairly obvious that I'm town at this point.
Why would a neutral pull a gambit like that? Makes no sense. At this point, if I were neutral, I would still push for a mafia win. Why would Dust push for a town win as a neutral? Makes no sense.

[FrawstByte]

I TOOK YOUR GUN AND SHOT GORE WITH IT NIGGAH, I'M A WITCH
-vote Dust

i also claimed that Frost is town (second townread) since you would have never taken GS as maf/gf
i witched frost last night aswell as Auckmid, targeting myself/himself

no kill so he's cleared of being maf killing role, revealing as mayor more so than anything.

Bye Dust. Nick might be wifoming hard again though

THIS is behavior which I would expect from a neutral.
Someone he perceives as mafia just failed hard at a gambit late game and he saw an opportunity to side with town because we now have the upper hand.
Plus, the first line in this post definitely sounded like Dave Chappelle in my head.
"I TOOK YOUR GUN AND SHOT GORE WITH IT NIGGAH. I'M A WITCH, BITCH!"

[Escaho]

If I get roleblocked and witched in the same night, would I still visit the target I was witched on to?

If you are role-blocked, a witch cannot force you to visit anyone.

However, you may still perform day actions that occur before role-blocking.

[LeaD]

frost obviously knows that my first name's David... xd
I always act scummy to a certain degree and wifom my way hard, but i got no reason not to open side with town at this point. Especially since i can win next day too, so it's all swell.

[Chill Kidd]

-Vote Dust

[Dust]

Fuck you, FrostByte. You have absolutely no idea what I can do. I can tell you who the GF is. I was his student one night.

Unvote me and I'll tell you who he is in student chat.

Also, Nick is absolutely neutral. The day I gave an investigator report on Nick was the night after he chose me as a mentor. That's how I knew. When I said that I forgot something awesome, I was telling Nick that I forgot to copy the code we would give to let the other know what role we were.

[Dust]

Fuck you, Chill Kidd. Not giving me a chance to give a testimony of myself. I didn't even know I was on trial til now. Fuck you

[Dust]

frost obviously knows that my first name's David... xd
I always act scummy to a certain degree and wifom my way hard, but i got no reason not to open side with town at this point. Especially since i can win next day too, so it's all swell.

You just voted another neutral who's siding with town, you fucktard. You cunt just lost the game for yourselves. I know who the damn GF is and I won't tell you. You were supposed to lynch him today but you didn't. You're all retarded

[Dust]

Oh, no response? You feeling stupid for voting me? That makes sense because you are stupid and deserve to feel stupid

[LeaD]

i still win, u mad? Auckmid's lying then, moreover, you played horrible if you were a neutral lol.

[LeaD]

you just post spam and i can't even answer :9
besides, Chill hammered you, not me~

[Dust]

i still win, u mad? Auckmid's lying then, moreover, you played horrible if you were a neutral lol.

I played brilliantly. Others failed here. I was willing to work with town. Reaux is the only townie here who didn't fail. Everyone else just did. You guys just LOST. YOU HEAR THAT? LOST!

[Dust]

you just post spam and i can't even answer :9
besides, Chill hammered you, not me~

You fucking started it because you thought I was mafia. Well I can prove that I'm not. NOW I CAN'T AND NOW YOU LOSE.

[Dust]

Fuck it,

-vote Dust
Regardless of the outcome, he's scummy and just tried to get town leader lynched.

I'm sorry, I did. I thought that Glip was the town leader. I was willing to work with town. DID YOU NOT SEE THAT, MOTHERFUCKER?

[Dust]

From FAQ:
"Neutral Roles

The possible neutral roles are: Executioner, Jester, Ghost, Student, Survivor, and Witch."

There's no lookout there. Dust, while claiming neutral, just tried to get a townie lynched. I've made it fairly obvious that I'm town at this point.
Why would a neutral pull a gambit like that? Makes no sense. At this point, if I were neutral, I would still push for a mafia win. Why would Dust push for a town win as a neutral? Makes no sense.

Hey, what if I told you that I WAS WORKING FOR THE MAFIA? WHAT THEN? WHAT ABOUT IF I WAS WILLING TO SIDE WITH TOWN AFTER I WAS FOUND OUT? THAT MUST HAVE JUST BLOWN YOUR DAMN MIND BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.

[Dust]

-Vote Dust

Did you even fucking read a word out of my mouth? Or are you the sheep I think you are?

[FrawstByte]

I'm sorry, I did. I thought that Glip was the town leader. I was willing to work with town. DID YOU NOT SEE THAT, MOTHERFUCKER?

Hey, broheim. Guess what?
This is reminding me very much of that moment after the hammer in SC2mafia where the GF says "ZOMG FUCKING FAIL ASS TOWN YOU ALL LOSE WITHOUT ME FUCKING RETARD ASS FAIL TOWN"
And then flips GF.
This also happens incessantly in FM. It's a tactic used to try to create chaos so night actions can't be discussed or synchronized.
Not gonna buy it.

Oh, and fuck your first born in the ass with a flaming cactus, you flamboyant cuntasaurus cock smoker.

[FrawstByte]

Hey, what if I told you that I WAS WORKING FOR THE MAFIA? WHAT THEN? WHAT ABOUT IF I WAS WILLING TO SIDE WITH TOWN AFTER I WAS FOUND OUT? THAT MUST HAVE JUST BLOWN YOUR DAMN MIND BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.

I'm sorry, I did. I thought that Glip was the town leader. I was willing to work with town. DID YOU NOT SEE THAT, MOTHERFUCKER?

You fucking started it because you thought I was mafia. Well I can prove that I'm not. NOW I CAN'T AND NOW YOU LOSE.

I played brilliantly. Others failed here. I was willing to work with town. Reaux is the only townie here who didn't fail. Everyone else just did. You guys just LOST. YOU HEAR THAT? LOST!

Please, please QQ moar. This is hilarious.

[Dust]

Hey, broheim. Guess what?
This is reminding me very much of that moment after the hammer in SC2mafia where the GF says "ZOMG FUCKING FAIL ASS TOWN YOU ALL LOSE WITHOUT ME FUCKING RETARD ASS FAIL TOWN"
And then flips GF.
This also happens incessantly in FM. It's a tactic used to try to create chaos so night actions can't be discussed or synchronized.
Not gonna buy it.

Oh, and fuck your first born in the ass with a flaming cactus, you flamboyant cuntasaurus cock smoker.

Guess what, motherfucker? I'm NEUTRAL, and was more PRO-TOWN THAT THE MOTHERFUCKING CUNT WHO WAS TOWN LEADER. THAT'S RIGHT. GO FUCK YOURSELF

[FrawstByte]

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
HEY GUIZE GUESS WHAT? AFTER THE GAME IS OVER, DUST IS GONNA MAKE EXCUSES AS TO WHY HE SINGLEHANDEDLY LOST THE FUCKING GAME FOR MAFIA. ODDS ARE IT'LL START WITH "WELL, WE WOULD HAVE WON, BUT... [insert fuckup that is spun as a "random unlucky event"]"

[FrawstByte]

Guess what, motherfucker? I'm NEUTRAL, and was more PRO-TOWN THAT THE MOTHERFUCKING CUNT WHO WAS TOWN LEADER. THAT'S RIGHT. GO FUCK YOURSELF

Say the words fuck and cunt a couple more times. I don't think this post made you look cool enough.

[Dust]

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
HEY GUIZE GUESS WHAT? AFTER THE GAME IS OVER, DUST IS GONNA MAKE EXCUSES AS TO WHY HE SINGLEHANDEDLY LOST THE FUCKING GAME FOR MAFIA. ODDS ARE IT'LL START WITH "WELL, WE WOULD HAVE WON, BUT... [insert fuckup that is spun as a "random unlucky event"]"

You don't realize that town lost. I made the calculations with my knowledge. You just lost. There's nothing you can do.

[Dust]

And the stupidity of the act of lynching me just.... ARG! I can't even put it into words that describe my rage at the moment.

I'm going to laugh at the next day with Reaux talking to himself because the rest are just lurkers.

[FrawstByte]

You don't realize that town lost. I made the calculations with my knowledge. You just lost. There's nothing you can do.

You made incorrect calculation with perceived knowledge. You were wrong as fuck.

But it was all a gambit by mafia, anyway.

[Dust]

You made incorrect calculation with perceived knowledge. You were wrong as fuck.

But it was all a gambit by mafia, anyway.

But you were the last puzzle piece to fall into place. I now know every player's role. You just threw that away because I hurt you and made a mistake that I was willing to rectify.

[FrawstByte]

LOL
https://www.google.de/imgres?q=hung+p...9,r:0,s:0,i:71

[FrawstByte]

But you were the last puzzle piece to fall into place. I now know every player's role. You just threw that away because I hurt you and made a mistake that I was willing to rectify.

You can eat shit and fucking die already pls.

[Dust]

You can eat shit and fucking die already pls.

Why? Because I tell the truth right now? Because you don't want to hear how you failed? That's too bad. Go cry me a river.

[LeaD]

too many scarface + justim timberlake references going on son.

[Dust]

benign neutral =/= scum

I wish you guys knew that.

[Dust]

To whoever this may concern,
People, when douches, get on my nerves. If you are responsible for my death and loss, I will hunt you down. I will pick you out of a crowd and say "that player is scum, lynch him" or pick you out of a crowd and say "that player looks like he's a PR. Send me, I'll kill him". You see, I don't even care if that implicates me. You caused a loss that, if you are town, is stupid, or if you're mafia, really idiotic. This game was in the hands of the town and with us killed the town loses a valuable resource. You will notice that Big Gay Al had some names wrong. We could have corrected these mistakes easily with the code that we set up. If you are mafia then punishing someone who was threatened and cornered only to punish them for making you lose is not good sport. If you are mafia, then I would like you to note that I am not and will not out any of your names in the day chat because you know what? I am honorable and you are not. In either case you insult my honor and so I must repay you in full with interest. Be assured that you will die. I wish you good luck evading me. You will need it.

Sincerely,
That Classy Mofo you killed,
Dust/Mr. Hat/Maria

good luck

[Chill Kidd]

Dust calm down You remind me of this kid right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1GPcWSzYjA