Janitor change

[Chane]

if a gf and janitor visit an alerted veteran the godfather will die and the janitor will not perform any action.

I suggest to make the Janitor Clean a Mafia member if the Janitor visited the same HOUSE as the second mafia player as long as this is the cause of death.

this can be a mafioso failing to kill a alerted veteran but being cleaned by janitor.
this can be a framer and janitor visiting a killing spree performed by a Mass Murderer
however this won't work if for example a janitor and consort visit one person but the consort got shot by a vigilante or stabbed by an sk.

Reasoning: it just seems that the Janitor and Framer are less used over all, and allthough the framer can be good in ranked, the janitor slacks of because people know how to use a coroner. and as the coroner is such a direct counter, buffing the janitor with this host option seems pretty reasonable to me.

suggested host option:
-Janitor cleans fellow mafia member if he dies to a veteran or MM spree at the house they both visit (on/off) default: off

/discuss

[creedkingsx]

OP

[Chane]

OP

care to elaborate a bit further?

this will be pretty rare and it is a default off host option. it might work better in some set-ups

[Blazer]

No. Leave as is. If he went to the veterans house he would get shot too. The GF is at the vets house. The janitor would get shot too.

[Damus_Graves]

What Blazer said.

[Blazer]

Now who's post farming, damus? lololol

whos post farming by pointing out someone is possibly post farming?

[tiloup1441]

whos post farming by pointing out someone is possibly post farming?

I think its you.

[Blazer]

BLASPHEMY, I DELETE MY POSTS!

and you replace it with another useless one.

Anyways, back to the topic on hand. Death is indiscriminate, unless you wanted to change the core settings of the janitor or something.
Besides, if the GF visits the vet, make the janitor visit the GF just in case he dies.

[creedkingsx]

BLASPHEMY, I DELETE MY POSTS!

cheater.

[Sin]

Janitor doesn't really need a buff IMO...

The best I would think of would be the auto-clean of vet kills on maf members if the Janitor didn't target anyone this night, as an option.

And I say vet kill and not vigi or jailor kills, because unlike the others we can suppose the maf prepares the operation, so the Janitor knows where the killer is going. The vigi and jailor can't be predicted.

[Blazer]

Janitor doesn't really need a buff IMO...

The best I would think of would be the auto-clean of vet kills on maf members if the Janitor didn't target anyone this night, as an option.

And I say vet kill and not vigi or jailor kills, because unlike the others we can suppose the maf prepares the operation, so the Janitor knows where the killer is going. The vigi and jailor can't be predicted.

Still don't like it. What if the janitor wants to pass as coroner and not clean anyone?

[Sin]

Still don't like it. What if the janitor wants to pass as coroner and not clean anyone?

That's like a SK who wants to pass as a doc and not kill anyone 'til the end, and who is jailed. You can't because fate said so.
The Vet kill on a maf member (Disguiser/GF/Mafioso) associated with the Janitor being inactive (and still having cleanings left) is even less likely to happen than a SK jailed.

[Blazer]

That's like a SK who wants to pass as a doc and not kill anyone 'til the end, and who is jailed. You can't because fate said so.
The Vet kill on a maf member (Disguiser/GF/Mafioso) associated with the Janitor being inactive (and still having cleanings left) is even less likely to happen than a SK jailed.

We still shouldnt force an action of a player

[Sin]

We still shouldnt force an action of a player

So how about the same system that "douse/undouse" for arsonist ?

Janitor can either :
- Go at someone's home to sanitize
- Stay on "alert" and erase unlucky maf members who visited a vet, a MM targeting himself, or Consorts who blocked a SK (deaths happening at a place targeted by the maf not the other way around)

[Blazer]

So how about the same system that "douse/undouse" for arsonist ?

Janitor can either :
- Go at someone's home to sanitize
- Stay on "alert" and erase unlucky maf members who visited a vet, a MM targeting himself, or Consorts who blocked a SK (deaths happening at a place targeted by the maf not the other way around)

icwutudidthere ;)

That makes the option fit better for sure. But I still don't like it. The purpose of the janitor is to guess who will be killed and sanitized. I just like it the way it is I guess.
Your option isn't half bad though.

[Cryptonic]

I don't think any role should have any use when one goes afk

[Sin]

Arso still needs to click when he wants to burn someone. That would be the same here.

I agree that Janitor as it is is good enough, but it is not really a "guess", since he can see who the maf kill is, and is swapped by BD like everyone else.

Only survival and witches can make them miss a target.

[Blazer]

I don't think any role should have any use when one goes afk

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[Sin]

Since that's not what I suggested, I agree completely.

[Blazer]

Since that's not what I suggested, I agree completely.

if they take no action they cover mafia buddies...

[Cryptonic]

if they take no action they cover mafia buddies...

Yes, this causes the Janitor to be able to afk all game and have a purpose.
Plus, it makes it too easy to janitor Mafia members. If you're worried about a vet, target your gf. If you're worried about sk, target your consort.

[Blazer]

Yes, this causes the Janitor to be able to afk all game and have a purpose.
Plus, it makes it too easy to janitor Mafia members. If you're worried about a vet, target your gf. If you're worried about sk, target your consort.

Exactly. Cryptonic read my mind and spoke for me

[Sin]

if they take no action they cover mafia buddies...

Nope, I suggested an arso-like system :

- right column, someone to sanitize = "Douse"
- left column,clean maf killed on duty = "Burn"
- AFK, nothing happens

If the arsonist is AFK, he is AFK. He doesn't douse, he doesn't burn, he just stays home and watches TV. Probably some Michael Bay movie.

[Blazer]

Nope, I suggested an arso-like system :

- right column, someone to sanitize = "Douse"
- left column,clean maf killed on duty = "Burn"
- AFK, nothing happens

OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought arso afk and undouse himself >.>

(This still provides helping more than one target. It would be easier just to click the mafia members name)

[Voss]

janitor does NOT die to vet if he targets, according to changelog.

[Antithese]

NINJA EDIT. Grilled.

[Blazer]

This.

OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought arso afk and undouse himself >.>

(This still provides helping more than one target. It would be easier just to click the mafia members name)

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