[Role suggestion] Psychic

[Oblivion]

The investigator would see the same thing as a witch for this role.

This role would randomly summon one of the dead players (Who has not left) each night and may ask them a question. They dead player is isolated from the other dead players (similar to the jailors target) and may only respond with a bottom on on one of the players, he may not directly chat with the Psychic. At the end of the night the Psychic learns which players button the dead player has selected and uses that as they see fit.

This would be a neutral role with the same win conditions as survivor or amnesiac (Pre role change)

[Optional] The psychic knows which dead player they summoned.
[Optional] The psychic needs to rest for 1 night after every summon.

[Fatalis]

Interaction with dead people can never work.

[DaeK]

It would make disguisor or janitor pretty useless

[Oblivion]

It would make disguisor or janitor pretty useless

The player it summons is random and there is an option so that the the summons name is unknown to the psychic.

[Gzz]

But still the resurrected can know who is mafia by dead chat , or cult and so on , just improponible

[Rakonat]

This could be very OP or utterly useless depending on how the players react to the game. People either tell all in dead chat (via raging or just being butt hurt they died) or don't say a damn thing or even rage quit. If everyone keeps leaving the role is crap, but if some idiot told who his teammates were upon death, the dead player who gets summoned would have info they couldn't have possibly obtained in life. This would essentially be a legal version of Skyping.

[Fallacy]

Thriller in the night.

[EliteMarine]

Interaction with dead people can never work.

It has been frowned upon, but I won't say never as Lazers brought up and interesting idea in R&D in regards to dead play.

Time will tell.

[cookies4you]

The player it summons is random and there is an option so that the the summons name is unknown to the psychic.

That'll make it even worse.

[RLVG]

This would in 90% of cases, be a wasted role.

Let's see, maybe I should summon the victim Sheriff. He lacks his last will by a janitor.
Omfg that town is a random lynch!
You are the sheriff. I would like to know what you wrote in your Last Will, it was removed.
I'm being summoned? Who the fuck are you?
Please tell me the Last Will, I wish to help the town.
N1 I visited 1, N2 I visited 7, N3 I visited 5.
*Too much time has been spendt*

You can't copypaste your Last Will after being dead, unless you did a notepad.



And what about them AFK-Noobs? Survivors? Dead players multitasking in order to wait for the points reward later?

And the worst : Griefers, mis-informative jerks.

[EliteMarine]

You can't copypaste your Last Will after being dead, unless you did a notepad.

You actually can. Just highlight your last will and press Shift+C. Then to paste it, press Shift+V.

[RLVG]

You actually can. Just highlight your last will and press Shift+C. Then to paste it, press Shift+V.

I've tried and I can't bring up the LW menu after my death. If that's possible, then the game is acting up for me.

Maybe I'm just a noob, but that's a common for me.
I'll always do a notepad regardless of a situation, however.

[Auckmid]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-with-the-dead

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[Damus_Graves]

I believe that only applies to reviving dead people and chatting them up.

[EliteMarine]

I've tried and I can't bring up the LW menu after my death. If that's possible, then the game is acting up for me.

Maybe I'm just a noob, but that's a common for me.
I'll always do a notepad regardless of a situation, however.

No your right. If you are trying to do this after death then no. I thought you may of been talking about copying prior to death and pasting it afterwards.

[Oblivion]

This would in 90% of cases, be a wasted role.

Let's see, maybe I should summon the victim Sheriff. He lacks his last will by a janitor.
Omfg that town is a random lynch!
You are the sheriff. I would like to know what you wrote in your Last Will, it was removed.
I'm being summoned? Who the fuck are you?
Please tell me the Last Will, I wish to help the town.
N1 I visited 1, N2 I visited 7, N3 I visited 5.
*Too much time has been spendt*

You can't copypaste your Last Will after being dead, unless you did a notepad.



And what about them AFK-Noobs? Survivors? Dead players multitasking in order to wait for the points reward later?

And the worst : Griefers, mis-informative jerks.

As I said, the dead player is summoned at random and may not directly chat with the psychic but the psychic can chat to ask one question. The dead player selects one button located on the list of players in the bottom right corner of the screen and at the end of the night the psychic learns who was indicated (As some one above pointed out you could not be sure if the dead player was telling the truth, lying, or guessing). The Psychic would need to pair up with an investigator, sheriff, or consig who could make use of its leads.

As for the afks and griefers it really balances it out, sure you may summon a serious player who gives you a good lead but you can never be 100% sure of it and some nights you may learn nothing at all.

[Gerik]

I like the concept. I think it's interesting and the system of using buttons as communication from the dead player make it so that the worst trolls can do is get you to accuse/lynch someone who's town. But living players can do that too, so I don't see it as letting trolls run rampant. It makes the role a sort of investigative gamble. Either you'll get a great lead that will become the downfall of an evil role, or you won't (and maybe get someone innocent and/or yourself killed in the process).

That being said, I don't think it will get added to the game. The people on these forums fear any kind of interaction with dead players, as they worry that it will break the game either by being too powerful or by allowing trolls to ruin games even after they die.

[Oblivion]

I like the concept. I think it's interesting and the system of using buttons as communication from the dead player make it so that the worst trolls can do is get you to accuse/lynch someone who's town. But living players can do that too, so I don't see it as letting trolls run rampant. It makes the role a sort of investigative gamble. Either you'll get a great lead that will become the downfall of an evil role, or you won't (and maybe get someone innocent and/or yourself killed in the process).

That being said, I don't think it will get added to the game. The people on these forums fear any kind of interaction with dead players, as they worry that it will break the game either by being too powerful or by allowing trolls to ruin games even after they die.

Thanks for the support and judging by the other posts above I'm inclined to agree with you. Half of them seem like they only read to "...summon one of the dead players..." And went "OH FUCK NO!"

[Chane]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-with-the-dead

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this is not chatting with dead people. this is mearly asking a question and a button being pressed.

T-null for now thought. not sure about it. I like it but I still disagree with talk to the dead roles in general.