Dead Chat Point Game

[Kain]

So I know you already have the roulette game but I was wondering if there has been any thought to adding other forms of dead chat games? Like say blackjack or being able to bet points on a particular player (or role/group) and see if they'll win. Just something to make dead chat more interesting.

[Ash]

i agree with the betting points on a player/role/group, since once ur dead in roulette you pretty much get bored. and majority of the times the new dead players usually rage-quit.

after you bet, you should get ur points doubled/tripled or something.
It should be like:
if you bet from n1 - n3: triple ur points if u get it right.
n4-and on: doubled ur points if ur right.

And if you bet it on a neutral evil, you should also win more points.

[Damus_Graves]

Dead chat games need to have no connection to the on going game.

[Ash]

Dead chat games need to have no connection to the on going game.

It's just betting...
What kind of connection is that?

WHAT KIND OF SICK DISGUSTING CONNECTION IS THAT?

legit question.

[Damus_Graves]

The outcome of the game directly effects who wins in death chat game.

[MoDTassadar]

Hangman. To prevent cheating by using words that don't exist, make it single-player and make a word bank. So here is how it would work: type -hangman # (a number of 5-9). Depending on the number, it will choose a word of that length and it works just like normal hangman. You win a point for every letter guessed right, and lose a point for every letter guessed wrong. If you geuss the entire word when it has 2 or more letters left, you gain 2 extra points for those letters.

[Ash]

The outcome of the game directly effects who wins in death chat game.

Well then, that's GOOD. Because it deters players from leaving after they die.

[Damus_Graves]

But it can also attract gamethrowers.

[Ash]

But it can also attract gamethrowers.

there's no need to gamethrow because if there is 2 buddies, the dead buddy can vote on his buddy to win..

[Damus_Graves]

Or the dead guy says dude i bet X points on the opposite team. suicide so i can win my bet , next game we will play roulette and ill give you half the points.

[Ash]

Or the dead guy says dude i bet X points on the opposite team. suicide so i can win my bet , next game we will play roulette and ill give you half the points.

What are the chances of that?
What if he is town and the town have the upper hand? You can't gamethrow then..

BUT FINE. i am done arguing

[Damus_Graves]

What are the chances of that?
What if he is town and the town have the upper hand? You can't gamethrow then..

BUT FINE. i am done arguing

It doesnt sound like it.

Im just pointing out the possibility.

[Ash]

It doesnt sound like it.

Im just pointing out the possibility.

that was my last..

i aint gonna argue about not arguing anymore

[Raptorblaze]

that was my last..

i aint gonna argue about not arguing anymore

It's basically the same reason one in a million was removed, we don't want to add things which can be exploited by people to gain points via cheating.

[MoDTassadar]

I have a feeling YAYAP is gonna come in here any minute and neg rep all of our posts. >.<

[EliteMarine]

Maybe pick a number between 1-100

Closest person wins the pot? Simple. Quick. AND replayable if you lose?

Mmmmmm?

[Voss]

So the betting on a person/role/etc. to win only promotes game-throwing? Well wouldn't they be banned for game-throwing? It's not worth the risk, but then again, I suppose its not worth the temptation either.

But anyway, I like the idea of this thread. Being in graveyard is so boring. I just afk, because no one likes to roulette high stakes.

[kyle1234513]

Maybe pick a number between 1-100

Closest person wins the pot? Simple. Quick. AND replayable if you lose?

Mmmmmm?

+1

i say closest without going over, guessing 1 would be a legit strategy. closest person doubles their bet, every1 else loses points according to who bet the least and who bet the most. least betters lose all their points bet and big betters lose enuf only to fill up the winners gained points. like texas hold em

[Damus_Graves]

hmm. a game involving "who's got the highest number" might be possible?

Players are assigned a number 1-(however many players there are) and type in -bet X to bet points.

After all bets are tallied the numbers are shown and whoever has the highest wins?

[Voss]

i guess this points game is abusable, because i think DR intends for us to earn points playing the game, not through this side game.

[EliteMarine]

i guess this points game is abusable, because i think DR intends for us to earn points playing the game, not through this side game.

I have seen players walk away with over 100 points in roulette. >_>

I think for something like this where the max bet is 5 points.

[Ash]

I have seen players walk away with over 100 points in roulette. >_>

I think for something like this where the max is 25 points.

WOW NO. ANY ABUSE LIKE THIS AND IM RATING MAFIA 1 STAR AND IM QUITTING FOR EVER

[EliteMarine]

WOW NO. ANY ABUSE LIKE THIS AND IM RATING MAFIA 1 STAR AND IM QUITTING FOR EVER

Sorry, I edited right when you posted. I mean only 5 points not 25.




Still a no go?

[Kain]

I'm amazed the topic went this far, but yeah. I was browsing some other threads and noticed the complaints a few players had and an argument about "How dead chat is supposed to involve commenting on other players strategy." and this idea was born. Five points sounds great but I'm wondering how far this can go. Let's say each day you can change or modify your bet.

Examples:

Bet on player A
Player A survives the night
You can keep going with this bet or remove it to place on another player, though sticking with one player combos for each night they live and can earn you more points
If player A dies, you lose your points
If Player A's team wins, you get back a small amount of your original points as a consolation
If you change your vote to player B and THEN Player A dies, there is no drawback, save for the Player A surviving combo

Or you can go with place all bets on, say, mafia team
Prize handout isn't as great as betting on a single player, but it has a higher success rate

I'm just throwing out more ideas.

[Unentschieden]

Itīd be nice but setups are far more often unfair than not. Hell, balance isnīt even intended most of the time, many roles arenīt in the game to "win" but to confuse the actual contenders.
Itīs unfortunate but especially in context of lagchat the dead shouldnīt influence or be influence by the living in any way.

Deadchat IS afkchat unfortunately simply because the game is over for the dead (even if they can still win). The real "solution" would be to grant players partial points on death so they can leave and start a new match.

[Xen]

IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT

Someone just teach me how to hack roulette. I swear on my unholy life people hack the fuck out of it.

[Kain]

I fail to see how adding in more dead chat games influences living players from dead players, unless there are skypers in which case they should be banned anyways.

Granting points upon you dying is easily exploitable since you can have a friend or some party you're in lead a lynch on you or (if they're a killer) kill you so you can quit. Leaving early should give you no reward IMO because it's just as it sounds, you're leaving the game instead of sticking to the end. I'm just trying to find a way to make staying more enjoyable, and leaving because you died strikes me as rage quitting.

Like Xen said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Unentschieden]

Leaving because you die isnīt ragequitting. There is no "sticking to it" because your part in the game ended. Staying is courtesy and maybe a learning experience but adds NOTHINHG at all to the quality of the ongoing match.

[Chane]

I hate if it aint broke dont fix it

There is always room for improvement and as day9 says this is a bad assumption