SFM XXVII: CHEATERS!

[Goremancer]

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[FYRE]

I like how you have no convicted cheaters in this FM

[BorkBot]

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Sure. They're in your Users\Goremancer\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows \ folder. Enjoy!

I like how you have no convicted cheaters in this FM

Silence, smurf! Look up "parody" in a dictionary.

[Damus_Graves]

Amusement a day keeps the old age away

[creedkingsx]

FYRE isn't a smurf. lol

[creedkingsx]

boring say is boring, gonna go get some pineapple

[Phyr]

Phyr, is that role list just an example?

Not just an example.

Hold up. How are you sure enough to guess Brendan was insane? There are so many guesses in this list that I am actually a bit inclined to believe that you are the hacker. Nobody has claimed witched, even. The only night feedback we know is that Damus was roleblocked, so I can understand why there's a consort. I can't really say the same for anything else on here.

So, are you the hacker?

Does it matter if I file Brendan under sane or insane? I found insane to be more fitting. xD
You aren't notified about a witching.
This list is just a guess, don't take it as something fixed. It will be subject to change.
No, I am not the Hacker.

[KiteofDeath]

boring say is boring, gonna go get some pineapple

I Would Say To Lynch Creedkingsx He Seems Suspicious

[creedkingsx]

I Would Say To Lynch Creedkingsx He Seems Suspicious

>>

[Damus_Graves]

I Would Say To Lynch Creedkingsx He Seems Suspicious

really....?

[creedkingsx]

really....?

Unfortunately I can't delete anything here.

[Damus_Graves]

Unfortunately I can't delete anything here.

Become a super Mod?

[Phyr]

I Would Say To Lynch Creedkingsx He Seems Suspicious

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What just happened there? I am confused.

[CmG]

This game has too many lurkers. Is there anybody on the reserves who wants my place? :o

[creedkingsx]

What just happened there? I am confused.

A smurf randomly talking in this game.

[Phyr]

Come on. Why doesn't anyone make an educated guess on the roles list? Put your thinking caps on and make me proud.

[Damus_Graves]

it seems like every sfm i have been in has had the same people and the same lurkers in it

[CmG]

Why? Why do you wifom hacker? I don't get it. You are surely fishing, but i don't know for what. Especially this whole game is complicated with the extra wifom on top of it. This game requires a lot of communication but everybody lurks. We have 4 mafia. 3 skypers and 4 mods who have to get those 3. It would be super cruel if a neutral would be part of the skypers. I don't think he is part of it.
I assume there is at least one pourist per faction. Random excluded. So we have like 3 town purists and one in the mafia.

This is kinda tricky.

[CmG]

I suggest Town just plays like town. And Mafia as mafia until the late game. Otherwise it gets retarded.

[Damus_Graves]

My thoughts are the the skypers are in different factions
one in mafia and two in town. Since it would be upsetting to have the one neutral be a skyper. (btw the neutral would most logically be the role list hacker.)

The purist's on the other hand cant win together.. i think. anyways

I would assume there would be one purest in the mafia family and three in the town. with the mod being town oriented. (best guess)

[creedkingsx]

It's seems commonly agreed that there are 3 town purists and 1 mafia purisits.
That town doesn't have the hacker.
also, 2 skypers town, 1 in mafia.

[Phyr]

It wasn't my intention to WIFOM hacker. I just want to make this day less boring. I find useless discussion, aka spam, to be kinda boring. Sure there are some fun things in there from time to time, but overall I prefer posts that contribute to the game.
I will say this again, I am not hacker. You gain nothing in WIFOMing Hacker imo. If you are Town as hacker you just play with the open roles list and watch the Mafia getting steamrolled. If you are Mafia/Neutral, you gain nothing by WIFOMing/claiming hacker. You just give the Moderator the opportunity to ban you later for a free kill on you. Though I think that the Moderator is Mafia. With so many PRs on Town's side, the Mafia might have another possible kill on their side in form of a ban.

[CmG]

Dude i will report you for skyping, hacking and game-throw right now!

[Glip]

Sorry if I've been so inactive to be considered lurking. Like I said, I've been working 10 AM to 9 PM each day. I'm off for the next 4 days after today, so I'll be able to be a lot more active then.

I believe the best thing for town to do for now is to disregard the special mechanics for the moment (not entirely, though. Keep an eye out for people buddying up/sharing opinions and assumptions, and other skyper tells) and focus on finding the mafia first.

The only feedback message anyone has received is that Damus was roleblocked? How sad. Not much info to garner from that.

[Dimwit]

Mmm boards are back.

Were the secondary roles not granted randomly or was there some detail I missed in that regard? I'm going over it all finally, but I remember the setup saying that they were random; if this is so, why are we considering what the faction layout would be on day 2?

[Duzero]

Mmm boards are back.

Were the secondary roles not granted randomly or was there some detail I missed in that regard? I'm going over it all finally, but I remember the setup saying that they were random; if this is so, why are we considering what the faction layout would be on day 2?

Even though it says random some modification is usually made by the host to ensure a balanced game.
For example having role hacker as townie would turn this game into eden of the east with everyone role claiming and just lynching the conflicting claims.

[Luna]

Oh the day is still going? I just quickly logged on to submit my night action (WIFFOOMMMM)

I'd like to try and guess at the roles list, but a bit more vaguely.

I'm guessing we have at least one protective role - a Doctor/Medical Student sounds likely, but that's just a wild guess (that one blocked report could mean anything, if it's real).

I wouldn't put it past Bork to put an Actress in, given that he was on a team with an Actress in FMXIII. I know Bork prefers sleight of hand and paranoid scumhunting instead of power roles which have direct impacts with their night actions.

The Neutral is the biggest mystery, though a Witch is probably at the top of my list.

[creedkingsx]

Let's all metagame the host

[Phyr]

I'm really disappointed with most of the players here. It feels like sc2mafia town in here: wait for the PRs to bring forward clues and sit around waiting for something to happen. Come on spice this game up a little. I even showed a way on how to contribute.

All I will add right now is: You guys are
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!

[Damus_Graves]

^ mean,

[Duzero]

Yeah Phyr is mean!

I wanna know why you posted that role list. You don't claim hacker but still you put exact roles and who was purist, cheater etc. What do you wish to gain from it?

[Damus_Graves]

Yeah Phyr is mean!

I wanna know why you posted that role list. You don't claim hacker but still you put exact roles and who was purist, cheater etc. What do you wish to gain from it?

his goal was to draw intelligent discussion.

[Duzero]

his goal was to draw intelligent discussion.

*starts licking on graves boots*

[Glip]

I'm really disappointed with most of the players here. It feels like sc2mafia town in here: wait for the PRs to bring forward clues and sit around waiting for something to happen. Come on spice this game up a little. I even showed a way on how to contribute.

All I will add right now is: You guys are
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!

There's not really much of anything to go on yet in this game, especially not so far as to making a roles list that has any sort of legitimacy at all.

It'll just be a random guess, but if you want me to, I will.

Random Mafia - Grave Robber - With so many power roles in the game, Grave Robber will get a nice selection to be useful to the mafia.
Random Mafia - Consort - Again, many power roles, many useful blockings.
Random Mafia - Godfather/Mafioso/Consigliere - Someone to do the killing, or someone to figure out town roles/let the Actress know what to claim.
Random Mafia - Framer/Actress - Many random towns increases likelihood of investigative roles, increasing usefulness of Framer, and acts as mafia investigative pairing with Sheriff. Also, with so many randoms, makes it easy for an actress to get away with almost any Town PR claim.
Random Neutral - Witch/Arsonist - Either a witch to flub up all the power roles, or an Arsonist to give the town something to worry about after a slow game of only 1 KPN.
Random Town - Sheriff - One is dead already, obviously one was in the game.
Random Town - Investigator - I find the one and only one citizen thrown in to be strange, unless he's just there to act as a town investigative pairing for the Godfather, so I checked the investigative pairings, and there seems to be some odd pairings in there, like Arsonist/Armoursmith/Bodyguard/Bus Driver and Consort/Serial Killer/Escort/Doctor, and Witch being thrown in with Godfather/Cit/Jester/Vet. No reason to have odd and large pairings like that if you're not gunna have an investigator to confuse with them.
Random Town - Gunsmith/Vigilante/Jailor/Veteran - Spice up the game. Get some kills in there other than just 1 per night from the mafia. Since causes of death are hidden, there must be some killer out there other than the mafia. Otherwise we'd just know the kills are from the mafia regardless. Also, having a killer among the skypers would help them work towards killing off the purists before they kill them. Acts as town investigative pairing for Mafioso if Gunsmith/Vigilante/Jailor.
Random Town - Detective/Lookout - With so many PR's and thus so many visitors, Det and Lookout should get lots of info.
Random Town - Doctor/Med Student/Bodyguard - Surely there's atleast one role that can save others in this game. Also works as town investigative pairing for the Consort if Doctor/Med Student.
Random Town - Coroner/Mortician - Discover causes of death and Mafia's targets or clues to roles present in the game. Also provides town investigative pairing for the grave robber.
Random Town - Lookout?/Bodyguard? - Not sure about this one. Could be a different one of the secondary options of the roles above.
Citizen - Acts as counter investigative pairing for Witch and Godfather. And for laughs to see how a lone citizen acts in a game full of PR's.

Roles I think may not be present:
Jailor - No one claimed jailed.
Journalist - No one was interviewed.
Bus Driver - No one claimed bussed.
Janitor - The kill last night wasn't cleaned.
Executioner/Jester - These don't give the town something to fear other than mafia.
Serial Killer - Only 1 kill last night. Could lead to fast town failure if in the game, with 2 kills per night and only 8:5 Towncum ratio, with 4 scum being mafia, not to mention special mechanics of skypers that may cause town to side with mafia.
Armoursmith - May cause too few KPN if game only has 1 KPN from Mafia.

Special Mechanics:
Almost certainly there is atleast 1 skyper and atleast 1 purist within the mafia, to give them something to worry about/division between them late game to give town a chance.
It would give either the town or the mafia an unfair advantage to have the Hacker on their side, so I hope the Hacker is the neutral.

If he random.org'd the roles, though, then all this speculation is useless.

[Glip]

Serial Killer - Only 1 kill last night. Could lead to fast town failure if in the game, with 2 kills per night and only 8:5 Town:Scum ratio, with 4 scum being mafia, not to mention special mechanics of skypers that may cause town to side with mafia.

Fixed.

[Bluejay]

When is this day going to end, considering the site downtime?

[BorkBot]

Day will end at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=August+3+4+PM+GMT

Night 2 will be longer than usual to get it back on a more workable schedule for me (I won't be around tomorrow during the day)

[Bluejay]

No, I don't want to sit around waiting for some town PR to give information to the town, but really, we don't have much information to go off of yet, so speculation seems like the best we can do for now.

I think it'd be funny (and interesting) if the citizen were a purist. Then everyone has a night action!

[Luna]

Let's make this interesting.

I claim to be a Skype Cheater! But I also claim to be Town.

I know the names of the other two Cheaters, and I won't be revealing them or their claims (I want to determine whether they are lying or not first).

The Moderator would be unwise to target me, unless they are a member of the Mafia.

Why am I revealing? Basically just to remind everyone that we really should be focusing on the whole Town vs. Mafia game ahead of the Cheaters vs. Purists game. In the skype chat we are going to be doing our own little scumhunting (we've had all town claims so far but I am dubious - and yes I claimed a role). I think the night should be very interesting.

[BorkBot]

Fatalis has replaced Navor because he has still failed to contribute to the day chat.

[Fatalis]

Wait what who why whom
I need time to read all this chats
Let's hope I'm not already hammered

[Damus_Graves]

Alright well that settles that for the skypers. Hmmm

[Luna]

Quickly, let's all hammer Fatalis before he can catch up and defend Navor's appalling and scummy actions.

-vote Fatalis

[Fatalis]

Wait what if there is a purist and hacker on the mafia team, lol that would be awesome
I hope borkbot is not high enough to give the mafia a role list hacker

[Fatalis]

Quickly, let's all hammer Fatalis before he can catch up and defend Navor's appalling and scummy actions.

-vote Fatalis

How are you even in this game I taught you are the one to confirm it

[Luna]

How are you even in this game I taught you are the one to confirm it

I haven't seen a full roles list.

Unless I'm actually the hacker o.0

[Damus_Graves]

LOL.

[BorkBot]

Day 2 is over! Nobody was lynched.

Roles:
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Neutral
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen

Player List:
1. creedkingsx
2. Duzero
3. Damus_Graves
4. Jr4life24
5. Phyr
6. Dimwit
7. Glip
8. Bluejay
9. Goremancer(replaced SirBlayzalot)
10. CmG
11. Fatalis (replaced Navor)
12. Luna

Graveyard:
Newb - Mutilated on night 0 for fapping behind a girl's back
Brendan (Sheriff) - Maimed for unknown improper conduct


Night 2 will end at: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=August+5+12+AM+GMT

Ragecomic RP coming up in a bit.

[BorkBot]

Night 2

[BorkBot]

Day 3

[imagine ragecomic here until I get to making one]

Roles:
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Neutral
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen

Player List:
1. creedkingsx
2. Duzero
3. Damus_Graves
4. Jr4life24
5. Dimwit
6. Glip
7. Bluejay
8. Goremancer
9. CmG
10. Fatalis
11. Luna

Graveyard:
Newb - Mutilated on night 0 for fapping behind a girl's back
Brendan (Sheriff) - Maimed for unknown improper conduct
Phyr (???) - Brutalised with a chainsaw

This day will end:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=August+6+12+AM+GMT