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I told people I had a fun role and they thought I was scum for saying so.

I really did have a fun role though!

I’m going to miss this uncanny avatar.

Gg mafia. Until next time

I told people I had a fun role and they thought I was scum for saying so.

I really did have a fun role though!

I’m going to miss this uncanny avatar.

Gg mafia. Until next time

Snuggles shot first right?

Snuggles shot first right?

[MENTION=46690]FM-Pareidolia[/MENTION] who do u think shot at Tiny? ZOMG? The Hat?

@FM-Pareidolia who do u think shot at Tiny? ZOMG? The Hat?

[QUOTE=FM-Monet Rocket;1009601]1. im not calling people dogshit
2. that was when i didnt post. ive posted 30 times between then, and people are having me as null not scum while suggesting a shot
stop misinterpreting what im saying[/QUOTE]

Sorry excuse me you're calling their reasoning dogshit not their ability to play mafia.

Originally Posted by FM-Monet Rocket

1. im not calling people dogshit
2. that was when i didnt post. ive posted 30 times between then, and people are having me as null not scum while suggesting a shot
stop misinterpreting what im saying

Sorry excuse me you're calling their reasoning dogshit not their ability to play mafia.

Hey is it a towny thing to do to say "Hey why aren't more people sussing me" and then start calling everyone dogshit at mafia when they try to sus them?

Hey is it a towny thing to do to say "Hey why aren't more people sussing me" and then start calling everyone dogshit at mafia when they try to sus them?

[QUOTE=FM-Oink;1009590]Can you reveal everyone EXCEPT the town protector?[/QUOTE]

OR better yet can u just reveal who u think sent the kill?

Originally Posted by FM-Oink

Can you reveal everyone EXCEPT the town protector?

OR better yet can u just reveal who u think sent the kill?

[QUOTE=FM-Pareidolia;1009565]I think one of that visitors is probably the muderer.
I know the full list, but I don't want to reveal it because I know now who is the town prot.[/QUOTE]

Can you reveal everyone EXCEPT the town protector?

Originally Posted by FM-Pareidolia

I think one of that visitors is probably the muderer.
I know the full list, but I don't want to reveal it because I know now who is the town prot.

Can you reveal everyone EXCEPT the town protector?

[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;1009562]I visited them and my blsssing fell
I am the one who’s blessing people with the moon
My blessings worked on every other player, it just didn’t work on them
Same thing with goblin n1[/QUOTE]

Naptime had an item that transported them out of town iirc. That's why they went over the 300+ posts because they forgot that they could still possibly be hit with the unstoppable shot. You might've targeted them while they were using the item.

Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster

I visited them and my blsssing fell
I am the one who’s blessing people with the moon
My blessings worked on every other player, it just didn’t work on them
Same thing with goblin n1

Naptime had an item that transported them out of town iirc. That's why they went over the 300+ posts because they forgot that they could still possibly be hit with the unstoppable shot. You might've targeted them while they were using the item.

[QUOTE=FM-Pareidolia;1009558][MENTION=46699]FM-Ringmaster[/MENTION], answer me, do you visited Naptime this night to bless him and what is this blessing?
Maybe you answered already, sorry if I missed it.[/QUOTE]

They all got the ITA bonus blessing from the publicly announced blood moon

Originally Posted by FM-Pareidolia

@FM-Ringmaster , answer me, do you visited Naptime this night to bless him and what is this blessing?
Maybe you answered already, sorry if I missed it.

They all got the ITA bonus blessing from the publicly announced blood moon

Also we need to finish off Chromatography today otherwise Ringmaster doesn't get an heir to their moon

Also we need to finish off Chromatography today otherwise Ringmaster doesn't get an heir to their moon

[MENTION=46690]FM-Pareidolia[/MENTION] I think Ringmaster can target multiple people

@FM-Pareidolia I think Ringmaster can target multiple people

[QUOTE=FM-Oink;1009542]Are you sure Ringmaster didn't just target them with the moon shenanigans? Who else visited Naptime??[/QUOTE]

Sorry I mean Hippo

Originally Posted by FM-Oink

Are you sure Ringmaster didn't just target them with the moon shenanigans? Who else visited Naptime??

Sorry I mean Hippo

[QUOTE=FM-Pareidolia;1009522]Sorry, I was away.
I tunneling not only them, but also Red Cross from the beginning and d1 (but he is died). Also you forgot that I scumread Breakup from d2.
I know everyone who visited Tiny (7 players including myself) tonight, and I suspect one of them tried to kill him, but the murder was redirected to one of the three who died that night.
I suspect Ringmaster, because according to his words he blessed Naptime this night, and Naptime is dead. The thing is: Ringmaster is one of that 7 Tiny's visitors.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure Ringmaster didn't just target them with the moon shenanigans? Who else visited Naptime??

Originally Posted by FM-Pareidolia

Sorry, I was away.
I tunneling not only them, but also Red Cross from the beginning and d1 (but he is died). Also you forgot that I scumread Breakup from d2.
I know everyone who visited Tiny (7 players including myself) tonight, and I suspect one of them tried to kill him, but the murder was redirected to one of the three who died that night.
I suspect Ringmaster, because according to his words he blessed Naptime this night, and Naptime is dead. The thing is: Ringmaster is one of that 7 Tiny's visitors.

Are you sure Ringmaster didn't just target them with the moon shenanigans? Who else visited Naptime??

Should I shoot Pareidolia? Again it's a policy shot cuz idk how else we can solve the slot

Should I shoot Pareidolia? Again it's a policy shot cuz idk how else we can solve the slot

Red Cross and Pyramid were both on Pilgrim D1 so it makes me wonder who else was on it. The Grate and Chromatography's wagons look pure D1 looking back at it.

...Honestly the fact that Pareidolia was on the Pilgrim wagon EOD1 despite being sus of Protag (who was pushing Pilgrim) AND the fact that Anthill is also one of the people who voted Pilgrim makes these 2 my top 2 ITA targets.

Red Cross and Pyramid were both on Pilgrim D1 so it makes me wonder who else was on it. The Grate and Chromatography's wagons look pure D1 looking back at it.

...Honestly the fact that Pareidolia was on the Pilgrim wagon EOD1 despite being sus of Protag (who was pushing Pilgrim) AND the fact that Anthill is also one of the people who voted Pilgrim makes these 2 my top 2 ITA targets.

[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;1009399]popping in to remind everyone that it’s mechanically optimal that [MENTION=46711]FM-Tiny Hippo[/MENTION] and [MENTION=46705]FM-Space Pizza[/MENTION] both make sure that the people they shoot today, [B]are dead by the end of the day, so I can choose a heir[/B], ty[/QUOTE]

Also unrelated but Space Pizza getting a moon-based role just feels right

Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster

popping in to remind everyone that it’s mechanically optimal that @FM-Tiny Hippo and @FM-Space Pizza both make sure that the people they shoot today, are dead by the end of the day, so I can choose a heir, ty

Also unrelated but Space Pizza getting a moon-based role just feels right

So, I'm reading through the Goldfish ISO rn and I got through the first page and for the most part at least their D1 feels okay.

I kind of forgot about how the Pilgrim wagon was pushed by Protag and I'm gonna look at the people on the Pilgrim wagon D1 because Pilgrim was a town that was served on a silver platter. I know I should be finishing the Goldfish ISO but rn I think I'm going to get lukewarm results from it and better results from the Pilgrim wagon.

So, I'm reading through the Goldfish ISO rn and I got through the first page and for the most part at least their D1 feels okay.

I kind of forgot about how the Pilgrim wagon was pushed by Protag and I'm gonna look at the people on the Pilgrim wagon D1 because Pilgrim was a town that was served on a silver platter. I know I should be finishing the Goldfish ISO but rn I think I'm going to get lukewarm results from it and better results from the Pilgrim wagon.

[QUOTE=FM-Oink;1009383]Yeah it's policy. Like my townread is based on "why would they spend the entire game saying 3 people are scum?". If they just keep tunneling the same 3 people then how are we supposed to get any semblance of a read on them outside of it? I feel like an ITA is the only way we resolve this slot. Maybe not today necessarily but this slot should never make it to the endgame if all they've done is tunnel since there's no way to solve it.[/QUOTE]

This is about Pareidolia btw

Originally Posted by FM-Oink

Yeah it's policy. Like my townread is based on "why would they spend the entire game saying 3 people are scum?". If they just keep tunneling the same 3 people then how are we supposed to get any semblance of a read on them outside of it? I feel like an ITA is the only way we resolve this slot. Maybe not today necessarily but this slot should never make it to the endgame if all they've done is tunnel since there's no way to solve it.

This is about Pareidolia btw

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1009363]Didn’t you have a tr of them from iso yesterday? Is this policy?


[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's policy. Like my townread is based on "why would they spend the entire game saying 3 people are scum?". If they just keep tunneling the same 3 people then how are we supposed to get any semblance of a read on them outside of it? I feel like an ITA is the only way we resolve this slot. Maybe not today necessarily but this slot should never make it to the endgame if all they've done is tunnel since there's no way to solve it.

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

Didn’t you have a tr of them from iso yesterday? Is this policy?

Yeah it's policy. Like my townread is based on "why would they spend the entire game saying 3 people are scum?". If they just keep tunneling the same 3 people then how are we supposed to get any semblance of a read on them outside of it? I feel like an ITA is the only way we resolve this slot. Maybe not today necessarily but this slot should never make it to the endgame if all they've done is tunnel since there's no way to solve it.

[MENTION=46677]FM-Goldfish Bowl[/MENTION] I'm ISOing you right now

@FM-Goldfish Bowl I'm ISOing you right now

[QUOTE=FM-Monet Rocket;1009281]I was told to by Catnip[/QUOTE]

You mean Scarf? Catnip wasn't there.

But also you tried to shoot on the bottom of the ITA list and then the top, and it seemed like you didn't care what you were shooting at, you just wanted someone to tell you who to shoot instead of making that decision on your own.

Originally Posted by FM-Monet Rocket

I was told to by Catnip

You mean Scarf? Catnip wasn't there.

But also you tried to shoot on the bottom of the ITA list and then the top, and it seemed like you didn't care what you were shooting at, you just wanted someone to tell you who to shoot instead of making that decision on your own.

[MENTION=46684]FM-Monet Rocket[/MENTION] why'd you shoot at Joycat yesterday btw?

@FM-Monet Rocket why'd you shoot at Joycat yesterday btw?

[QUOTE=FM-Goldfish Bowl;1009262]Townier
Four past
Hat
Snuggles
Hon
Lipstick

Inconclusive

Dredge
Anthill
Protag
Chibi

Scummier (?)
Scarf
Player 2[/QUOTE]

Idk why but I read this readlist and I had the weirdest feeling of disgust here. This is completely unnatural for me so I'm surprised I had this feeling at all. I'm ISOing you after I get through Monet Rocket

Originally Posted by FM-Goldfish Bowl

Townier
Four past
Hat
Snuggles
Hon
Lipstick

Inconclusive

Dredge
Anthill
Protag
Chibi

Scummier (?)
Scarf
Player 2

Idk why but I read this readlist and I had the weirdest feeling of disgust here. This is completely unnatural for me so I'm surprised I had this feeling at all. I'm ISOing you after I get through Monet Rocket

[MENTION=46684]FM-Monet Rocket[/MENTION]
If your role doesn't naturally make you survive that many wounds, are you suggesting that someone gave you armor / protection?

I don't want to hunt docs but why would someone want to protect someone with so few posts?

@FM-Monet Rocket
If your role doesn't naturally make you survive that many wounds, are you suggesting that someone gave you armor / protection?

I don't want to hunt docs but why would someone want to protect someone with so few posts?

[MENTION=46701]FM-Scarf[/MENTION] I still think Pareidolia should be on the ITA list. They did a really good job of reading the ISOs when the mod message saying "one of these people is mafia", but they've been scumreading literally the same 3 people (with no other reads) since the start of D1 and instead of looking at other slots they've been just shouting about how bad the ITA list was or trying to push their scumreads. Unless Pareidolia starts making some other reads i just think it's weird for them to be tunneling this long. I have no idea how to resolve this slot if they aren't going to do anything besides sr The Hat, Protag, and Hon Hon Hon.

@FM-Scarf I still think Pareidolia should be on the ITA list. They did a really good job of reading the ISOs when the mod message saying "one of these people is mafia", but they've been scumreading literally the same 3 people (with no other reads) since the start of D1 and instead of looking at other slots they've been just shouting about how bad the ITA list was or trying to push their scumreads. Unless Pareidolia starts making some other reads i just think it's weird for them to be tunneling this long. I have no idea how to resolve this slot if they aren't going to do anything besides sr The Hat, Protag, and Hon Hon Hon.

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1009170]Catnip acted scummy at your slot imo and hasn't really done anything AI since then. Might be a coasting wolf.

I don't think you are nessecarily scum yet, but I can see it if Cat flips red based off your interactions. Am I being vague?[/QUOTE]

Idk Catnip said they were busy and that's why they weren't here a lot. When they were here I had good live reactions, especially towards EOD2 but maybe I need to reread those. I thought they were towny but again maybe I need to double-check.

Also yeah I guess I see your case IF Catnip is scum since I'm defending the slot but unless you're planning on making a serious push on Catnip I'm not really concerned with tinfoil.

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

Catnip acted scummy at your slot imo and hasn't really done anything AI since then. Might be a coasting wolf.

I don't think you are nessecarily scum yet, but I can see it if Cat flips red based off your interactions. Am I being vague?

Idk Catnip said they were busy and that's why they weren't here a lot. When they were here I had good live reactions, especially towards EOD2 but maybe I need to reread those. I thought they were towny but again maybe I need to double-check.

Also yeah I guess I see your case IF Catnip is scum since I'm defending the slot but unless you're planning on making a serious push on Catnip I'm not really concerned with tinfoil.

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1009150]You are misremembering. Catnip said you had a bad entrance, and to a lesser extent Goblin did too. Catnip just did it in a scummy way.

And if you want my honest tinfoil, you could have had TMI on Catnip, yes. But even more interesting in the irony of her crucifying you over it as you entered the game and then proceeding to do the same thing (aluded to by only one real line.)

It would be an interesting wolf play to pop off on you and distance, only to havw you TR them while they're away.

And no I don't SR ring. At all really.[/QUOTE]

So then like, what's your case on me? These are the reasons why I thought you were suspecting me and Catnip, but if these aren't it then what is?

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

You are misremembering. Catnip said you had a bad entrance, and to a lesser extent Goblin did too. Catnip just did it in a scummy way.

And if you want my honest tinfoil, you could have had TMI on Catnip, yes. But even more interesting in the irony of her crucifying you over it as you entered the game and then proceeding to do the same thing (aluded to by only one real line.)

It would be an interesting wolf play to pop off on you and distance, only to havw you TR them while they're away.

And no I don't SR ring. At all really.

So then like, what's your case on me? These are the reasons why I thought you were suspecting me and Catnip, but if these aren't it then what is?

[QUOTE=FM-Protagonist Hair;1009145][COLOR="#0ea4e5"][FONT=Comic Sans MS]yeah speaking of those 100000000% ITas...

why haven't we received them yet?[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Host said it was too broken and wouldn't allow it. I don't think they'd answer beforehand if something was too broken or not because then I could just spam the hosts asking "hey if I use my ability on x person, will it be too broken" to see who has powerful PR abilities and who has weak ones.

Also I was debating on trying to use my ability on Chibi tonight if Ringmaster is going to make a feast because Chibi can make neighborhoods and infinite neighborhoods would make every possible neighborhood between every possible set of players I think.

[B]I forgot to mention this, but even if something is deemed too broken to do to infinity, they will next check to see if it would be broken to do it twice. So I'm hoping that we'll just get double the neighborhoods tonight. Also this means it was deemed too broken to even give 2x the blood moon effect.[/B]

Originally Posted by FM-Protagonist Hair

yeah speaking of those 100000000% ITas...

why haven't we received them yet?

Host said it was too broken and wouldn't allow it. I don't think they'd answer beforehand if something was too broken or not because then I could just spam the hosts asking "hey if I use my ability on x person, will it be too broken" to see who has powerful PR abilities and who has weak ones.

Also I was debating on trying to use my ability on Chibi tonight if Ringmaster is going to make a feast because Chibi can make neighborhoods and infinite neighborhoods would make every possible neighborhood between every possible set of players I think.

I forgot to mention this, but even if something is deemed too broken to do to infinity, they will next check to see if it would be broken to do it twice. So I'm hoping that we'll just get double the neighborhoods tonight. Also this means it was deemed too broken to even give 2x the blood moon effect.

Do you also maybe suspect me and Ringmaster being scum together for openly trying to do moon shenanigans like trying to give top towns 1000000000% ITAs?

Do you also maybe suspect me and Ringmaster being scum together for openly trying to do moon shenanigans like trying to give top towns 1000000000% ITAs?

I'd say that looks more like Solvity solvedn't to me Dredge. Is your case on me that i killed NEL (a top tr for everyone else but a top sr for me), that I have TMI about Catnip's whereabouts so we must be wolves together, and that I had a bad entrance in to the game?

I'd say that looks more like Solvity solvedn't to me Dredge. Is your case on me that i killed NEL (a top tr for everyone else but a top sr for me), that I have TMI about Catnip's whereabouts so we must be wolves together, and that I had a bad entrance in to the game?

[MENTION=46690]FM-Pareidolia[/MENTION] Do you have any reads outside of The Hat, Protag, Hon Hon Hon? You've been tunneling these 3 slots literally since like your first readlist D1 and you haven't really talked to anyone since. Or are you just planning on being the resident expert on these 3 slots?

@FM-Pareidolia Do you have any reads outside of The Hat, Protag, Hon Hon Hon? You've been tunneling these 3 slots literally since like your first readlist D1 and you haven't really talked to anyone since. Or are you just planning on being the resident expert on these 3 slots?

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1009018]how do you know they were at work Oink?[/QUOTE]

I'm like 90% sure Catnip said they were busy with work and that's why they weren't here most of D2.

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

how do you know they were at work Oink?

I'm like 90% sure Catnip said they were busy with work and that's why they weren't here most of D2.

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1009014]ok, then ill meet you halfway and agree that i wouldn't mind them being thrown into the shot list.

catnip too. we'll just go after all the cats.[/QUOTE]

Catnip just got a promotion tho and despite being busy working most of the days yesterday they still managed to get a lot of solving done in the little time they were there EOD.

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

ok, then ill meet you halfway and agree that i wouldn't mind them being thrown into the shot list.

catnip too. we'll just go after all the cats.

Catnip just got a promotion tho and despite being busy working most of the days yesterday they still managed to get a lot of solving done in the little time they were there EOD.

...Yeah I just went back and skimmed Joycat's ISO and it's them just randomly locktowning people and then greenchecking those same people. It's not a great look because it's so easy to fake. Idk so the case on Joycat is that they're a mafia who's too lazy to play the game so they're just abusing their TMI to make obvious townreads and claiming cop to get townread?

...Yeah I just went back and skimmed Joycat's ISO and it's them just randomly locktowning people and then greenchecking those same people. It's not a great look because it's so easy to fake. Idk so the case on Joycat is that they're a mafia who's too lazy to play the game so they're just abusing their TMI to make obvious townreads and claiming cop to get townread?

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1008998]but yeah the way joycat claimed is in no way townie and im tired of people pretending it is[/QUOTE]

Yeah but a few mafia took shots at Joycat like shortly after being requested to (iirc i'm not 100% sure) so either the mafia made the snap decision to bus kill or they just don't care if Joycat dies if Joycat is town. And other people say they only shot at Joycat to help confirm Matchstick, so like my only reason for shooting Joycat would be that a lot of the mafia we've found so far have been hidden among the lowposters. Idk if we can't find a better shot than Joycat I'd say go for it but Joycat just feels like low hanging fruit that the mafia can hide their ITA behind so they don't have to commit to a more risky town kill

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

but yeah the way joycat claimed is in no way townie and im tired of people pretending it is

Yeah but a few mafia took shots at Joycat like shortly after being requested to (iirc i'm not 100% sure) so either the mafia made the snap decision to bus kill or they just don't care if Joycat dies if Joycat is town. And other people say they only shot at Joycat to help confirm Matchstick, so like my only reason for shooting Joycat would be that a lot of the mafia we've found so far have been hidden among the lowposters. Idk if we can't find a better shot than Joycat I'd say go for it but Joycat just feels like low hanging fruit that the mafia can hide their ITA behind so they don't have to commit to a more risky town kill

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1008995]Giving you critique on this rather than snark because I think this can come from townies

but posts like this where most of the post is just... an accurate summary of another player's actions, ends up looking more like busywork than a read

I like your conclusion in the top paragraph and it's where I'm at too, but every line after that is not helpful to other players solving, at least imo

I'd love to see your conclusions *on* those individual actions, so you can stack those up and make your conclusion more obvious as a result[/QUOTE]

Most of my other ISOs I've done have the additional commentary but this one was super straightforward in the sense that they've been doing the same stuff and suspecting the same people since the start of the game. Also it's late so the quality drops a little.

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

Giving you critique on this rather than snark because I think this can come from townies

but posts like this where most of the post is just... an accurate summary of another player's actions, ends up looking more like busywork than a read

I like your conclusion in the top paragraph and it's where I'm at too, but every line after that is not helpful to other players solving, at least imo

I'd love to see your conclusions *on* those individual actions, so you can stack those up and make your conclusion more obvious as a result

Most of my other ISOs I've done have the additional commentary but this one was super straightforward in the sense that they've been doing the same stuff and suspecting the same people since the start of the game. Also it's late so the quality drops a little.

Hey Scarf, Joycat wasn't lying about the greencheck on matchstick. Why would they reveal truthful information or reveal any information about Matchstick if they're mafia?

Hey Scarf, Joycat wasn't lying about the greencheck on matchstick. Why would they reveal truthful information or reveal any information about Matchstick if they're mafia?

So I finally got through the Pareidolia ISO and literally they've been tunneling the same people like all game. They made a readlist D1 and it's changed very very very little. They say in their ISO that they want to focus on a small group of people instead of trying to read everyone, but this seems like the opposite extreme of the spectrum here where they're hyperfocused on 4 or so people all game with little variation. I want to say this is just a tunneled townie because I don't know why a mafia would spend all that time and energy ISO'ing these people or complaining about the ITA list or spending all day begging for a Protag vote.

Pareidolia ISO:

Votes LickyLicky for suggesting QoL updates. Idk how serious it was initially but they use it to reaction test.

Later posts confirm that Pareidolia wants to do reaction tests with wild votes and then analyze the reactions so that the game becomes manageable to read. They're also just going for live reactions.

A bit of a weird post sprinkled in that essentially says I'll share my reads later if I'm alive so idk if they thought they were gonna die.

They accuse The Hat of being scummy for wanting someone to catch them up instead of reading up themselves.

Initial scumreads are: The Hat, Protag, and Hon Hon Hon.

Refused to vote more until they caught up with thread.

Wanted to vote off both Pilgrim and Protag D1 because they thought both were suspicious (later posts say they think it's w/w with someone bussing). When Tiny Hippo called this a dumb idea, Pareidolia moves Tiny Hippo to a lower read (from neutral to less trusted). Later just moved the suspicion to Pilgrim and voted there.

D2 their top scum was Hon Hon Hon bc they thought Hon Hon Hon was pocketing. They see the "there is at least one wolf" modpost and immediately start ISOing the players listed. From the ISOSs they conclude that Naptime is scummy, Protag is still scummy, BHD as town, Red Cross as lazy and possibly connected to Naptime or Eyescream.

They continuously push for protagonist and say red cross should be next. They really aren't a fan of BHD being taken hostage.

Really odd post among all the "kill protag" posts is that Red cross is on Scarf's ITA list and Pareidolia doesn't like the list because there is "not a single scum from [their] list here" despite Pareidolia scumreading Red Cross allegedly.

They shoot Hon Hon hon which makes sense sort of. It seems like Hon Hon Hon and Protag are their top srs. They also suggest trying to deduce who fired the silent shot by looking at who didn't shoot, but it turns out the mafia leader gets the silent shot and their ITA shot. This idea to hunt for the silent shot seems uninformed since the idea happened before the Pyramid flip.

During ITAs they keep shouting about how the list was bad. Suddenly The Hat is back on their readlist.

At one point they say someone said "shoot at Red Cross only if you're mafia". Did someone actually say this?

They say Anthill and me (Oink) should be vote candidates for D2 for killing NEL but is talked out of it by SSS.

So I finally got through the Pareidolia ISO and literally they've been tunneling the same people like all game. They made a readlist D1 and it's changed very very very little. They say in their ISO that they want to focus on a small group of people instead of trying to read everyone, but this seems like the opposite extreme of the spectrum here where they're hyperfocused on 4 or so people all game with little variation. I want to say this is just a tunneled townie because I don't know why a mafia would spend all that time and energy ISO'ing these people or complaining about the ITA list or spending all day begging for a Protag vote.

Pareidolia ISO:

Votes LickyLicky for suggesting QoL updates. Idk how serious it was initially but they use it to reaction test.

Later posts confirm that Pareidolia wants to do reaction tests with wild votes and then analyze the reactions so that the game becomes manageable to read. They're also just going for live reactions.

A bit of a weird post sprinkled in that essentially says I'll share my reads later if I'm alive so idk if they thought they were gonna die.

They accuse The Hat of being scummy for wanting someone to catch them up instead of reading up themselves.

Initial scumreads are: The Hat, Protag, and Hon Hon Hon.

Refused to vote more until they caught up with thread.

Wanted to vote off both Pilgrim and Protag D1 because they thought both were suspicious (later posts say they think it's w/w with someone bussing). When Tiny Hippo called this a dumb idea, Pareidolia moves Tiny Hippo to a lower read (from neutral to less trusted). Later just moved the suspicion to Pilgrim and voted there.

D2 their top scum was Hon Hon Hon bc they thought Hon Hon Hon was pocketing. They see the "there is at least one wolf" modpost and immediately start ISOing the players listed. From the ISOSs they conclude that Naptime is scummy, Protag is still scummy, BHD as town, Red Cross as lazy and possibly connected to Naptime or Eyescream.

They continuously push for protagonist and say red cross should be next. They really aren't a fan of BHD being taken hostage.

Really odd post among all the "kill protag" posts is that Red cross is on Scarf's ITA list and Pareidolia doesn't like the list because there is "not a single scum from [their] list here" despite Pareidolia scumreading Red Cross allegedly.

They shoot Hon Hon hon which makes sense sort of. It seems like Hon Hon Hon and Protag are their top srs. They also suggest trying to deduce who fired the silent shot by looking at who didn't shoot, but it turns out the mafia leader gets the silent shot and their ITA shot. This idea to hunt for the silent shot seems uninformed since the idea happened before the Pyramid flip.

During ITAs they keep shouting about how the list was bad. Suddenly The Hat is back on their readlist.

At one point they say someone said "shoot at Red Cross only if you're mafia". Did someone actually say this?

They say Anthill and me (Oink) should be vote candidates for D2 for killing NEL but is talked out of it by SSS.

iirc I had Player 2 as a townread last time I ISO'd them. That was before they went inactive but they seem like the kind of person that will redeem themselves today if they aren't busy with work

iirc I had Player 2 as a townread last time I ISO'd them. That was before they went inactive but they seem like the kind of person that will redeem themselves today if they aren't busy with work

Also The Hat is the shifting wagons D1 thing still a valid reason to sus Player 2 knowing that both main wagons D1 (Matchstick & Pilgrim) were town and that means it's impossible for it to be a wolf saving a wolf? Or do u have updated reasons?

Also The Hat is the shifting wagons D1 thing still a valid reason to sus Player 2 knowing that both main wagons D1 (Matchstick & Pilgrim) were town and that means it's impossible for it to be a wolf saving a wolf? Or do u have updated reasons?

I'm here but I think I'm going to ISO Pareidoila or however you spell it because yesterday they wanted me to read them and also explain my townread on naptime and yellow snow (or some other pair of like universally townread players i don't remember. the thing that stuck out was that they wanted my read on universally townread players as well)

I'm here but I think I'm going to ISO Pareidoila or however you spell it because yesterday they wanted me to read them and also explain my townread on naptime and yellow snow (or some other pair of like universally townread players i don't remember. the thing that stuck out was that they wanted my read on universally townread players as well)

I was looking through ZOMG’s ISO and the only things to really note are:
1) They had a negative first impression with Ringmaster since Ringmaster was giving lukewarm responses.
2) They had a case of Red Cross early on but I don’t think they pursued it. I’m not sure why they didn’t vote on it until way later, but it looks like ZOMG put a lot of effort into the scumread (even looking at timestamps) and idk if scum would put that much effort into a bus attempt.
3) they want to live react but will ISO on request. I guess that makes sense since ISOs are a lot of work
4) They were trying to bait reactions or something with Disco Dancer and/or Bad Hair Day? I couldn’t understand what was going on here from the ISO alone so does anyone have any idea what happened here and why the dead chat thought this was signaling the lone wolf? The whole reason I started ISOing ZOMG was because of the dead chat so it’s annoying that the ISO doesn’t have full context / it wasn’t explained enough for me to understand.

Nothing else was really notable but it’s like 60 posts or something. I feel like I’d scumread ZOMG if it wasn’t for the solid reading and case on Red Cross but I think I’d need to see more to really say for sure if they’re town

I was looking through ZOMG’s ISO and the only things to really note are:
1) They had a negative first impression with Ringmaster since Ringmaster was giving lukewarm responses.
2) They had a case of Red Cross early on but I don’t think they pursued it. I’m not sure why they didn’t vote on it until way later, but it looks like ZOMG put a lot of effort into the scumread (even looking at timestamps) and idk if scum would put that much effort into a bus attempt.
3) they want to live react but will ISO on request. I guess that makes sense since ISOs are a lot of work
4) They were trying to bait reactions or something with Disco Dancer and/or Bad Hair Day? I couldn’t understand what was going on here from the ISO alone so does anyone have any idea what happened here and why the dead chat thought this was signaling the lone wolf? The whole reason I started ISOing ZOMG was because of the dead chat so it’s annoying that the ISO doesn’t have full context / it wasn’t explained enough for me to understand.

Nothing else was really notable but it’s like 60 posts or something. I feel like I’d scumread ZOMG if it wasn’t for the solid reading and case on Red Cross but I think I’d need to see more to really say for sure if they’re town

[QUOTE=FM-Mr Clean;1008252]i was stopping roleblocks and redirects and they are immune to half of that and what are they going to be redirected to publicly[/QUOTE]

...so you're a roleblocker blocker?

Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean

i was stopping roleblocks and redirects and they are immune to half of that and what are they going to be redirected to publicly

...so you're a roleblocker blocker?

[QUOTE=FM-Mr Clean;1008229]my role is fucking useless i QUIT[/QUOTE]

...were you trying to roleblock?

Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean

my role is fucking useless i QUIT

...were you trying to roleblock?

Can I start the ITA list by throwing in the names of all the people who shot at Joycat? Also ZOMG by dead chat request?

Platypus, Hon Hon Hon, Monet Rocket, ZOMG

Can I start the ITA list by throwing in the names of all the people who shot at Joycat? Also ZOMG by dead chat request?

Platypus, Hon Hon Hon, Monet Rocket, ZOMG

[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;1008085]PROBLEM IS
IT SCRAMBLES THE FEEDBACK
ITS SCRAMBLED INFINITELY[/QUOTE]

this is all backfiring

Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster

PROBLEM IS
IT SCRAMBLES THE FEEDBACK
ITS SCRAMBLED INFINITELY

this is all backfiring

[MENTION=46699]FM-Ringmaster[/MENTION]

10000000% ITA was denied by hosts I just got confirmation

@FM-Ringmaster

10000000% ITA was denied by hosts I just got confirmation

[QUOTE=FM-Old Lickilicky;1008060]is he? i wasnt rly following mechs can you point out where hes mech clear[/QUOTE]

Yeah so Morshu has to visit a town D1 and Hippo said they were visited.

Originally Posted by FM-Old Lickilicky

is he? i wasnt rly following mechs can you point out where hes mech clear

Yeah so Morshu has to visit a town D1 and Hippo said they were visited.

Hey did anyone ask dead chat if they were visited by Morshu btw?

Hey did anyone ask dead chat if they were visited by Morshu btw?

Well if mechanics can't save us I guess I'll have to go back to good old-fashioned solving.

Well if mechanics can't save us I guess I'll have to go back to good old-fashioned solving.