January 6th, 2019, 03:34 PM
[QUOTE=Banshis;789108]Yea, I knew it was Mike before the game started since he accidentally posted in a different game with his anon. Not like it mattered. I don't really try to com hunt, but some people I figured out.
Taco- Mike
BK- Gerik
Starbucks- Slaol
Popeyes- Damus
KFC- Glip
DQ- I assumed blink
JitB- TDL
Rest I didn't really think too much into who they were.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised you took a guess at me considering my lack of activity. What gives me away?
Originally Posted by
Banshis
Yea, I knew it was Mike before the game started since he accidentally posted in a different game with his anon. Not like it mattered. I don't really try to com hunt, but some people I figured out.
Taco- Mike
BK- Gerik
Starbucks- Slaol
Popeyes- Damus
KFC- Glip
DQ- I assumed blink
JitB- TDL
Rest I didn't really think too much into who they were.
I'm surprised you took a guess at me considering my lack of activity. What gives me away?
January 6th, 2019, 02:50 PM
Was dead chat posted anywhere? I'd enjoy reading that.
Was dead chat posted anywhere? I'd enjoy reading that.
January 6th, 2019, 12:22 PM
oof. Sorry for my big inactivity. I had some serious distractions IRL. I even asked to be replaced at one point but then changed my mind a few minutes later cause I thought I'd be able to be more active. Then at that point I thought the game was too far in that replacing out would be unfair to whomever took my slot considering the nasty situation we were in.
Also rofl at that ICU night chat. Only 169 posts? Rookie numbers. Try 870. And the last night particularly wanted to make me rip my hair out. If we'd suddenly gotten screwed by a traitor I woulda been triggered.
oof. Sorry for my big inactivity. I had some serious distractions IRL. I even asked to be replaced at one point but then changed my mind a few minutes later cause I thought I'd be able to be more active. Then at that point I thought the game was too far in that replacing out would be unfair to whomever took my slot considering the nasty situation we were in.
Also rofl at that ICU night chat. Only 169 posts? Rookie numbers. Try 870. And the last night particularly wanted to make me rip my hair out. If we'd suddenly gotten screwed by a traitor I woulda been triggered.
December 17th, 2018, 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782691]Reflecting on the SB lynch, I should have analyzed it more. The way SB rolled over was scummy for himself but it also shed light on MM's alignment. SB's reserved posting pulled the wool over my eyes there, just figured he was a scum that got caught and gave up.
Town SB = would kick and scream
Scum SB/Town MM = would obviously pressure MM to try get a miss lynch on his most likely final day? that's what I would do I guess
Scum SB being BUSSED = o dang u got me hehe[/QUOTE]
I have none of these meta reads cause I haven't really done anything Mafia related for quite a long time at this point. No SC2, no ToS, no Epic Mafia. Came into this game with a fine coat of rust.
Originally Posted by
rumox
Reflecting on the SB lynch, I should have analyzed it more. The way SB rolled over was scummy for himself but it also shed light on MM's alignment. SB's reserved posting pulled the wool over my eyes there, just figured he was a scum that got caught and gave up.
Town SB = would kick and scream
Scum SB/Town MM = would obviously pressure MM to try get a miss lynch on his most likely final day? that's what I would do I guess
Scum SB being BUSSED = o dang u got me hehe
I have none of these meta reads cause I haven't really done anything Mafia related for quite a long time at this point. No SC2, no ToS, no Epic Mafia. Came into this game with a fine coat of rust.
December 17th, 2018, 04:51 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782628]Vote MM for MVP wow
[vote]Marshmallow Marshall[/vote]
sorry town I screwed up Picked the wrong person. Town lost because of me.[/QUOTE]
I figured it was MM the moment I saw he didn't post results in his first post of the day. It was so obvious Rumox was the kill target that if he hadn't watched him I would have known he was scum. But I was lynched by the time I read it.
I thought I'd told whatever other town player was left to take their time.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Vote MM for MVP wow
-vote Marshmallow Marshall
sorry town I screwed up Picked the wrong person. Town lost because of me.
I figured it was MM the moment I saw he didn't post results in his first post of the day. It was so obvious Rumox was the kill target that if he hadn't watched him I would have known he was scum. But I was lynched by the time I read it.
I thought I'd told whatever other town player was left to take their time.
December 17th, 2018, 02:00 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782553]Ok that bluff did not work as expected. I wish I did not BG him. You are eather town or playing with me.
If MM is mafia how would he know who to shoot? And not hit same target as vig. The fact of 2 kills makes me think it was you. But your response makes me think you are town. Or you called my bluff. I had you read as scum but now I have no idea. I want to wait to hear from MM. you have to be mafia. Yesterday’s actions. It can’t be MM. I need more time to think also hear what MM has to say[/QUOTE]
I am more inclined to believe it's you. But I'm not casting off the idea that it might be MM who merely bussed his companions.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Ok that bluff did not work as expected. I wish I did not BG him. You are eather town or playing with me.
If MM is mafia how would he know who to shoot? And not hit same target as vig. The fact of 2 kills makes me think it was you. But your response makes me think you are town. Or you called my bluff. I had you read as scum but now I have no idea. I want to wait to hear from MM. you have to be mafia. Yesterday’s actions. It can’t be MM. I need more time to think also hear what MM has to say
I am more inclined to believe it's you. But I'm not casting off the idea that it might be MM who merely bussed his companions.
December 17th, 2018, 12:54 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782537]Not hinting I said I did[/QUOTE]
So, you're saying that MM bussed basically all of his companions.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Not hinting I said I did
So, you're saying that MM bussed basically all of his companions.
December 17th, 2018, 12:25 PM
[QUOTE=TheDarkestLight;782531]Boi, I'm just asleep. I'm not gonna lie, it really seems like you're hinting that you checked MM.[/QUOTE]
Or well, I -was- asleep until just a little bit ago.
Originally Posted by
TheDarkestLight
Boi, I'm just asleep. I'm not gonna lie, it really seems like you're hinting that you checked MM.
Or well, I -was- asleep until just a little bit ago.
December 17th, 2018, 12:25 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782488]Why is everyone invisible.[/QUOTE]
Boi, I'm just asleep. I'm not gonna lie, it really seems like you're hinting that you checked MM.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Why is everyone invisible.
Boi, I'm just asleep. I'm not gonna lie, it really seems like you're hinting that you checked MM.
December 17th, 2018, 12:34 AM
Oh, and the reason for Banshis' shot.
Sorry Rumox, I wasn't gonna no-shoot. If anything, that would just be scummier. Besides, that would have left us in a more awkward situation with just as much info as today, and more potential mislynch targets. Tbh, me shooting Banshis removed a likely mislynch since he flipped town. Alternate to a lynch on me, I'd have been willing to bet Banshis would have been next in line, especially considering anyone could see scum shooting Rumox from a mile away and Mike and MM seemed to be quite tight so I doubt they'd lynch the other.
Of course, now I'm almost certainly the lynch target. But miracles do happen.
But, it was more for the indecision and relative passiveness over the course of the game, comboed with a seeming reluctance towards the first two Mafia lynches. And hasty decision making. Lots of that from me.
Oh, and the reason for Banshis' shot.
Sorry Rumox, I wasn't gonna no-shoot. If anything, that would just be scummier. Besides, that would have left us in a more awkward situation with just as much info as today, and more potential mislynch targets. Tbh, me shooting Banshis removed a likely mislynch since he flipped town. Alternate to a lynch on me, I'd have been willing to bet Banshis would have been next in line, especially considering anyone could see scum shooting Rumox from a mile away and Mike and MM seemed to be quite tight so I doubt they'd lynch the other.
Of course, now I'm almost certainly the lynch target. But miracles do happen.
But, it was more for the indecision and relative passiveness over the course of the game, comboed with a seeming reluctance towards the first two Mafia lynches. And hasty decision making. Lots of that from me.
December 17th, 2018, 12:25 AM
*Sigh* I should've guessed that stealth didn't just make a guess on Slaol not being guarded like he alluded to yesterday. Had to be someone who knew about the network chat. I really dropped the ball late game didn't I?
I know I don't look good. But I can only hope whichever of you is town, (probably MM. But I've clearly been bamboozled already in this game so you never know).
I'm expecting some pretty serious ridicule post-game.
Oh yeah, and to whichever of you is town, I do at least hope you won't end the day quickly. We have two days for this. Dead chat can wait for us a bit longer.
*Sigh* I should've guessed that stealth didn't just make a guess on Slaol not being guarded like he alluded to yesterday. Had to be someone who knew about the network chat. I really dropped the ball late game didn't I?
I know I don't look good. But I can only hope whichever of you is town, (probably MM. But I've clearly been bamboozled already in this game so you never know).
I'm expecting some pretty serious ridicule post-game.
Oh yeah, and to whichever of you is town, I do at least hope you won't end the day quickly. We have two days for this. Dead chat can wait for us a bit longer.
December 15th, 2018, 09:58 PM
[QUOTE=TheDarkestLight;782364][vote]Mike[/vote]
Gonna go to bed. I'll change back to stealth if this lynch is impossible.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, dead chat. If I'm wrong and just overthinking it, sorry for extending out the game.
Originally Posted by
TheDarkestLight
-vote Mike
Gonna go to bed. I'll change back to stealth if this lynch is impossible.
Oh yeah, dead chat. If I'm wrong and just overthinking it, sorry for extending out the game.
December 15th, 2018, 09:57 PM
[vote]Mike[/vote]
Gonna go to bed. I'll change back to stealth if this lynch is impossible.
-vote Mike
Gonna go to bed. I'll change back to stealth if this lynch is impossible.
December 15th, 2018, 09:52 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;782359]FailFish[/QUOTE]
I already tried translating it. It's gibberish in the translators I used.
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
I already tried translating it. It's gibberish in the translators I used.
December 15th, 2018, 09:50 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;782357]Bus driver and BG threat? You say I'm scum painting you, yet ask me to put myself in your shoes. Well put yourself in mine. There is a long time scummy player who has killed Slaol, we have [I]proof[/I] of it. You're there, [I]defending the confirmed scum[/I]. My scumread on you is pretty justified, and the fact that you do not see it, call it scumpainting, yet ask me to use your perspective shows that you are not honest. And this adds to the scumread.
By the way, I agree with using the time that we have. Just a heads up though, I won't be there much tomorrow because of IRL reasons. I should still be able to pop in in the evening, and maybe late (like really late) in the night.
That being said, my vote stays where it is.[/QUOTE]
I explained the bus driver and bg. Creed was alive with priority over the bus driver. The only one left was the body guard who the scum could have a good chance at avoiding. Why wouldn't a scum vig risk potentially dying to a BG when an instant win is right there if you take that small risk?
Also, you are NOT confirmed town. The ONLY proof is your claim. You could EASILY be scum. You are sitting here acting like you are some got tier town. You are just as easily scum as anyone here. The fact you are trying to paint me as scum when I literally took no action on a night that would have given the Mafia a win is dumbfounding and is making me really consider the possibility that it really is the worst case scenario.
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Bus driver and BG threat? You say I'm scum painting you, yet ask me to put myself in your shoes. Well put yourself in mine. There is a long time scummy player who has killed Slaol, we have proof of it. You're there, defending the confirmed scum. My scumread on you is pretty justified, and the fact that you do not see it, call it scumpainting, yet ask me to use your perspective shows that you are not honest. And this adds to the scumread.
By the way, I agree with using the time that we have. Just a heads up though, I won't be there much tomorrow because of IRL reasons. I should still be able to pop in in the evening, and maybe late (like really late) in the night.
That being said, my vote stays where it is.
I explained the bus driver and bg. Creed was alive with priority over the bus driver. The only one left was the body guard who the scum could have a good chance at avoiding. Why wouldn't a scum vig risk potentially dying to a BG when an instant win is right there if you take that small risk?
Also, you are NOT confirmed town. The ONLY proof is your claim. You could EASILY be scum. You are sitting here acting like you are some got tier town. You are just as easily scum as anyone here. The fact you are trying to paint me as scum when I literally took no action on a night that would have given the Mafia a win is dumbfounding and is making me really consider the possibility that it really is the worst case scenario.
December 15th, 2018, 09:43 PM
I don't have the will to go on. Just gonna watch what happens.
I don't have the will to go on. Just gonna watch what happens.
December 15th, 2018, 09:41 PM
[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;782345]Fuckin' simple. If I were theoretically mafia:
1. What would mike do? Something dumb. Not a problem.
2. What would slaol do? overthink everything. not a problem.[/QUOTE]
... y'know what. Fuck it. I didn't want to take any risks, but whatever. I don't want to spend 24+ hours trying to convince folk. If my worst case scenario is true, then oh well. If it's not the worst case scenario... well, you can't blame me for skepticism.
[vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]
I'll be shooting Banshis tonight if he flips scum. If it's not Banshis just lynch Mike tomorrow.
Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
Fuckin' simple. If I were theoretically mafia:
1. What would mike do? Something dumb. Not a problem.
2. What would slaol do? overthink everything. not a problem.
... y'know what. Fuck it. I didn't want to take any risks, but whatever. I don't want to spend 24+ hours trying to convince folk. If my worst case scenario is true, then oh well. If it's not the worst case scenario... well, you can't blame me for skepticism.
-vote Stealthbomber16
I'll be shooting Banshis tonight if he flips scum. If it's not Banshis just lynch Mike tomorrow.
December 15th, 2018, 09:33 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782341]Alright lets keep it stewing.
[UNVOTE]Stealthbomber16[/UNVOTE][/QUOTE]
I just have too many doubts, and too much second guessing to want to risk it.
Also, you don't have to type in the name of the person you're unvoting when you unvote. Just the [unvote][/.unvote].
Originally Posted by
rumox
Alright lets keep it stewing.
-unvote
I just have too many doubts, and too much second guessing to want to risk it.
Also, you don't have to type in the name of the person you're unvoting when you unvote. Just the [unvote][/.unvote].
December 15th, 2018, 09:29 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;782338]Given how TDL is defending Stealth so hard, I agree with this. I think he wants to pull a mislynch because [I]as he himself stated[/I] 1 mislynch could cost town the game.[/QUOTE]
Please. Explain to me, if I'm scum... why didn't I shoot on night two based on what I've said earlier? The scum painting is really making me have even more doubts.
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Given how TDL is defending Stealth so hard, I agree with this. I think he wants to pull a mislynch because as he himself stated 1 mislynch could cost town the game.
Please. Explain to me, if I'm scum... why didn't I shoot on night two based on what I've said earlier? The scum painting is really making me have even more doubts.
December 15th, 2018, 09:28 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;782336]............................[/QUOTE]
Put yourself in my shoes as town vigilante. Would you rush to trust someone 100% on a lynch when you know a guaranteed way to pull off a win? If you're town, then think about it from my perspective.
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
............................
Put yourself in my shoes as town vigilante. Would you rush to trust someone 100% on a lynch when you know a guaranteed way to pull off a win? If you're town, then think about it from my perspective.
December 15th, 2018, 09:18 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782333]you defending SB16 hard. you where willing to put him on L1 now you defending him hard what's up. you only did that after I gave a plan for town to win.[/QUOTE]
Because of the realization of what your role could do if a Mike/MM scum team is the scenario we have.
Originally Posted by
Mike
you defending SB16 hard. you where willing to put him on L1 now you defending him hard what's up. you only did that after I gave a plan for town to win.
Because of the realization of what your role could do if a Mike/MM scum team is the scenario we have.
December 15th, 2018, 09:16 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782328]TDL wont hammer so [MENTION=9461]Banshis[/MENTION] needs to[/QUOTE]
If no one is willing to lynch Mike, I will hammer Stealth. But we have over a DAY. I just do not want to risk the possibility when FMPOV my strat is a 100%.
Originally Posted by
rumox
TDL wont hammer so
@
Banshis
needs to
If no one is willing to lynch Mike, I will hammer Stealth. But we have over a DAY. I just do not want to risk the possibility when FMPOV my strat is a 100%.
December 15th, 2018, 09:14 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782323]Oh don't get me wrong the scum team isn't Banshis and SB. SB is Mafia and Banshis is Town. Your worst cast scenario is a pipe dream. SB would never just roll over as Town. I'm willing to play it safe than risk you getting an auto-win tonight by lynching anyone else but SB.[/QUOTE]
I mean, I already explained why I'm not scum in the best way I could in posts #1854 and #1868. Also, I don't know SB well enough, but he's been quite passive all game long. This doesn't seem too different so I'm not getting the meta read.
[QUOTE=Mike;782324]What are you scared of? you know sb16 is scum. if he flips town Shoot me if he is Mafia and you are town Shoot survivor. GG[/QUOTE]
Because if stealth flips town then you'll roleblock me tonight and I can't shoot? Then the scum win tomorrow 2v2.
Originally Posted by
rumox
Oh don't get me wrong the scum team isn't Banshis and SB. SB is Mafia and Banshis is Town. Your worst cast scenario is a pipe dream. SB would never just roll over as Town. I'm willing to play it safe than risk you getting an auto-win tonight by lynching anyone else but SB.
I mean, I already explained why I'm not scum in the best way I could in posts #1854 and #1868. Also, I don't know SB well enough, but he's been quite passive all game long. This doesn't seem too different so I'm not getting the meta read.
Originally Posted by
Mike
What are you scared of? you know sb16 is scum. if he flips town Shoot me if he is Mafia and you are town Shoot survivor. GG
Because if stealth flips town then you'll roleblock me tonight and I can't shoot? Then the scum win tomorrow 2v2.
December 15th, 2018, 09:07 PM
I'm gonna feel mighty stupid if I missed a creed-esque "rip me, oh well" post. One sec.
I'm gonna feel mighty stupid if I missed a creed-esque "rip me, oh well" post. One sec.
December 15th, 2018, 09:04 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782317]this[/QUOTE]
How is this rolling over? He's literally just stating that if the Mafia knew you were networking they would know Slaol isn't protected.
Originally Posted by
Mike
this
How is this rolling over? He's literally just stating that if the Mafia knew you were networking they would know Slaol isn't protected.
December 15th, 2018, 09:01 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782315]I honestly just wanted to see how this discussion wanted to pan out. I still hate Mike with a dying passion but he isn't being lynched.[/QUOTE]
I just don't think it's a safe option. I doubt stealth and banshis just so happened to decide and shoot Slaol even when the very likely possibility that he would be guarded was there. Hell, it was even stated multiple times during the day. -MAYBE- they got lucky, but I just can't risk the possibility when a practically guaranteed method is presenting itself.
Originally Posted by
rumox
I honestly just wanted to see how this discussion wanted to pan out. I still hate Mike with a dying passion but he isn't being lynched.
I just don't think it's a safe option. I doubt stealth and banshis just so happened to decide and shoot Slaol even when the very likely possibility that he would be guarded was there. Hell, it was even stated multiple times during the day. -MAYBE- they got lucky, but I just can't risk the possibility when a practically guaranteed method is presenting itself.
December 15th, 2018, 08:56 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782312]That comment is just so laffable. I was the one who laid out a plan for town to win. You laid out a plan for scum to win. If town lyches me they deserve to lose I am tired of this stupid talk.
Town Lych sb16 tonight MM I will guard you tonight. MM watch me tonight. GG. I am out. If town does not do this We lost. If town does this Town wins. MM has proven he is town over and over.
I explained why I created the Network. Over and Over. I did not like it but it is what it is.
I dont know 100% sure Vig is scum or town but at this point I dont care. When we lych SB16 you will see who is town and who is scum. only role I can take to hurt town would be Creeds role and RB Vig. and If i did that I would have to kill him giving town majority vote to lych me.
Or Bg to Gaurd MM Vig says is my scum buddy. Town still has Majority. So no matter what If MM and Me are scum team We can not win.
Now if me and MM are town as I have been saying over and over. I Bg MM MM watches me ME and MM live to st tomorrow or if i die MM sees and if they attack MM i die and and last scum dies. Because we will have lyched SB16 Scum Do you not see. How this is the best plan for town. Worst case Vig is scum and Shoots 2 shots kills Survivor and Jailer me and MM lych Vig town wins.
TOWN PLEASE SEE THIS IS ONLY GARENTTED TOWN WIN.
If i was scum I would have lyched SB16 when he was on L1. I waited because I wanted a plan for town to win first. Now that i do scum dont want it. because they will lose no matter what.[/QUOTE]
Your attempt at a confirmed win DOES NOT WORK if you and MM are scum. Yet you fail to understand why someone does not instantly believe you to be 100% town when you have a track record of scummy moves in this game.
Originally Posted by
Mike
That comment is just so laffable. I was the one who laid out a plan for town to win. You laid out a plan for scum to win. If town lyches me they deserve to lose I am tired of this stupid talk.
Town Lych sb16 tonight MM I will guard you tonight. MM watch me tonight. GG. I am out. If town does not do this We lost. If town does this Town wins. MM has proven he is town over and over.
I explained why I created the Network. Over and Over. I did not like it but it is what it is.
I dont know 100% sure Vig is scum or town but at this point I dont care. When we lych SB16 you will see who is town and who is scum. only role I can take to hurt town would be Creeds role and RB Vig. and If i did that I would have to kill him giving town majority vote to lych me.
Or Bg to Gaurd MM Vig says is my scum buddy. Town still has Majority. So no matter what If MM and Me are scum team We can not win.
Now if me and MM are town as I have been saying over and over. I Bg MM MM watches me ME and MM live to st tomorrow or if i die MM sees and if they attack MM i die and and last scum dies. Because we will have lyched SB16 Scum Do you not see. How this is the best plan for town. Worst case Vig is scum and Shoots 2 shots kills Survivor and Jailer me and MM lych Vig town wins.
TOWN PLEASE SEE THIS IS ONLY GARENTTED TOWN WIN.
If i was scum I would have lyched SB16 when he was on L1. I waited because I wanted a plan for town to win first. Now that i do scum dont want it. because they will lose no matter what.
Your attempt at a confirmed win DOES NOT WORK if you and MM are scum. Yet you fail to understand why someone does not instantly believe you to be 100% town when you have a track record of scummy moves in this game.
December 15th, 2018, 08:48 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782310][VOTE]Stealthbomber16[/VOTE]
I'M BACK ON IT YEET[/QUOTE]
Can I get your reasoning behind it?
Originally Posted by
rumox
-vote Stealthbomber16
I'M BACK ON IT YEET
Can I get your reasoning behind it?
December 15th, 2018, 08:36 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782304]Or better yet if you are town shoot Survivor. because if you are town Survivor has to be scum.
100% Last mafia is TDL Survivor or Jailer.
MM is 100% confirmed town.[/QUOTE]
The fact you can't seem to understand that I'm town is just telling me more and more that you're scum. Cause you know the plan I laid out wins the town the game.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Or better yet if you are town shoot Survivor. because if you are town Survivor has to be scum.
100% Last mafia is TDL Survivor or Jailer.
MM is 100% confirmed town.
The fact you can't seem to understand that I'm town is just telling me more and more that you're scum. Cause you know the plan I laid out wins the town the game.
December 15th, 2018, 08:29 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782299]I dont know. But I am not willing to vote you and take that chance no matter how scummy you are. even with 2 shots you can't win. If MM watches me and I Guard him. I think you know this plan makes it so you can not win. You played a good game if you are scum. and if i said i dont think you are scum then I would be insulting your game play. but If you are town. you are so fare in left field you have no idea what is going on in the game.[/QUOTE]
I know what's going on. If I'm scum then I haven't played a good game cause I completely THREW AWAY a win on day 3 by not shooting on night 2 when literally nothing was stopping me. Escort was scum. Mayor was scum. The Doctor was dead. Literally the ONLY thing standing in the way of a Mafia win if I was scum would have been the BG. But that's such a small risk compared to an instant win it would have been ridiculous. Even Slaol wouldn't have been able to stop it cause creed could have just RBed him and day 3 would have been 5 scum votes on an L-5 day.
Originally Posted by
Mike
I dont know. But I am not willing to vote you and take that chance no matter how scummy you are. even with 2 shots you can't win. If MM watches me and I Guard him. I think you know this plan makes it so you can not win. You played a good game if you are scum. and if i said i dont think you are scum then I would be insulting your game play. but If you are town. you are so fare in left field you have no idea what is going on in the game.
I know what's going on. If I'm scum then I haven't played a good game cause I completely THREW AWAY a win on day 3 by not shooting on night 2 when literally nothing was stopping me. Escort was scum. Mayor was scum. The Doctor was dead. Literally the ONLY thing standing in the way of a Mafia win if I was scum would have been the BG. But that's such a small risk compared to an instant win it would have been ridiculous. Even Slaol wouldn't have been able to stop it cause creed could have just RBed him and day 3 would have been 5 scum votes on an L-5 day.
December 15th, 2018, 08:18 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782296]rumox MM is not scum and neither am I. TDL has been scum painting me and him since the start of day. He is trying to get the lych off his scum buddy.[/QUOTE]
Please respond to post #1854 as to why I'm not scum. Tell me a reason why I would be scum considering what happened.
Originally Posted by
Mike
rumox MM is not scum and neither am I. TDL has been scum painting me and him since the start of day. He is trying to get the lych off his scum buddy.
Please respond to post #1854 as to why I'm not scum. Tell me a reason why I would be scum considering what happened.
December 15th, 2018, 08:15 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782292]I edited post because I by mistake added the link rumox sent for the chat I had to delete it fast please dont mod kill[/QUOTE]
As much as that would make the game easier. I would request Auckmid to NOT modkill you cause that would ruin the game.
Originally Posted by
Mike
I edited post because I by mistake added the link rumox sent for the chat I had to delete it fast please dont mod kill
As much as that would make the game easier. I would request Auckmid to NOT modkill you cause that would ruin the game.
December 15th, 2018, 08:13 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782288]This is what we talked about in night chat n3
Mike
ok how about this
If you want me to make a network tell me to go Bg don't sugest who i guard.
If you want me to take on the new role that is in graveyard tell me to Go BG and Guard yourself. This goes for both you and Sloal.
This way they will just see you telling me to go BG
and then make a post of your town reads the top 4 on your list is who i will put in the network ok
then this happened
Sloal telling me to Network and who
My reply
Slaols reply
My reply
Slaol reply to confirm I am not misunderstanding our code.
This is the only reason I did the network[/QUOTE]
... You realize you aren't supposed to post the link... right?
Originally Posted by
Mike
This is what we talked about in night chat n3
Mike
ok how about this
If you want me to make a network tell me to go Bg don't sugest who i guard.
If you want me to take on the new role that is in graveyard tell me to Go BG and Guard yourself. This goes for both you and Sloal.
This way they will just see you telling me to go BG
and then make a post of your town reads the top 4 on your list is who i will put in the network ok
then this happened
Sloal telling me to Network and who
My reply
Slaols reply
My reply
Slaol reply to confirm I am not misunderstanding our code.
This is the only reason I did the network
... You realize you aren't supposed to post the link... right?
December 15th, 2018, 08:13 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782287]I've sniffed scum on SB since day 1 so fuck it, he dies. If it's MM and TDL scum team I'm not even mad
[VOTE]Stealthbomber16[/VOTE][/QUOTE]
I sincerely recommend against this. If Mike and MM are scum we will lose.
Originally Posted by
rumox
I've sniffed scum on SB since day 1 so fuck it, he dies. If it's MM and TDL scum team I'm not even mad
-vote Stealthbomber16
I sincerely recommend against this. If Mike and MM are scum we will lose.
December 15th, 2018, 08:11 PM
If I'm scum, why didn't I shoot night 2? We were in a 6v4 scenario coming into day three. 6v5 considering Damus had two votes. All it would have taken if I was scum was shooting one town person and the Mafia would have had enough votes, and the night chat to coordinate a fast lynch the moment day 3 started.
Creed was scum, so he wouldn't have roleblocked me if I was his scum buddy on N2. So there is literally no reason for me to not shoot on night two unless I am town.
[vote]Mike[/vote]
If I'm scum, why didn't I shoot night 2? We were in a 6v4 scenario coming into day three. 6v5 considering Damus had two votes. All it would have taken if I was scum was shooting one town person and the Mafia would have had enough votes, and the night chat to coordinate a fast lynch the moment day 3 started.
Creed was scum, so he wouldn't have roleblocked me if I was his scum buddy on N2. So there is literally no reason for me to not shoot on night two unless I am town.
-vote Mike
December 15th, 2018, 08:08 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782278]Wow I can't belive you dont see how pro town this plan is. Town can't lose. you will see SB16 flip scum. dam MM is the reason Damus and Creed got lyched. Do you remember that fight. USE YOUR BRAIN? If I BG MM and MM watches me Town wins. because they will not be able to Kill MM or they die. and I die. killing last scum. or Scum kills me and MM see who you will see I am town confirming MM as town. and lych whoever he says killed me. Town can't lose. Both me and MM can't be scum . SB16 is scum.[/QUOTE]
It will lose if you are scum. Literally everyone this game has been talking about non-stop bussing. So forgive me for thinking that it's quite possible that MM did the same. Hell, even Slaol didn't take MM off the potential shot list.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Wow I can't belive you dont see how pro town this plan is. Town can't lose. you will see SB16 flip scum. dam MM is the reason Damus and Creed got lyched. Do you remember that fight. USE YOUR BRAIN? If I BG MM and MM watches me Town wins. because they will not be able to Kill MM or they die. and I die. killing last scum. or Scum kills me and MM see who you will see I am town confirming MM as town. and lych whoever he says killed me. Town can't lose. Both me and MM can't be scum . SB16 is scum.
It will lose if you are scum. Literally everyone this game has been talking about non-stop bussing. So forgive me for thinking that it's quite possible that MM did the same. Hell, even Slaol didn't take MM off the potential shot list.
December 15th, 2018, 08:06 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782275]I gave town a chance to win 100%. If i was scum I would have hammered when he was on L1. but dont hammer until MM confirmed he will watch me.[/QUOTE]
Ok. I can make plans too.
We lynch Mike today.
A.)
1:You flip scum.
2: I hold my shot.
3: I shoot MM and a town gets shot (Me or Rumox most likely)
4a: MM flips town and we lynch stealth 2v1.
4b: MM flips scum and we win.
B.)
1: You flip town.
2: I shoot Banshis, as there is no way MM could be scum with his current plays without you being scum too. Another town dies. Doesn't matter who.
3: We lynch stealth 2v1.
From my point of view, where I know I am town. This is a GUARANTEED win. I do not think MM would gambit a mislynch on stealth without Mike being his partner to stop my bullet.
Originally Posted by
Mike
I gave town a chance to win 100%. If i was scum I would have hammered when he was on L1. but dont hammer until MM confirmed he will watch me.
Ok. I can make plans too.
We lynch Mike today.
A.)
1:You flip scum.
2: I hold my shot.
3: I shoot MM and a town gets shot (Me or Rumox most likely)
4a: MM flips town and we lynch stealth 2v1.
4b: MM flips scum and we win.
B.)
1: You flip town.
2: I shoot Banshis, as there is no way MM could be scum with his current plays without you being scum too. Another town dies. Doesn't matter who.
3: We lynch stealth 2v1.
From my point of view, where I know I am town. This is a GUARANTEED win. I do not think MM would gambit a mislynch on stealth without Mike being his partner to stop my bullet.
December 15th, 2018, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782274]OMFG MM is not scum me and MM are not scum team. and no we can't win. because if SB16 is town fucking shoot me or him town still wins.[/QUOTE]
You an just take creed's or blink's role and we're fucked.
Originally Posted by
Mike
OMFG MM is not scum me and MM are not scum team. and no we can't win. because if SB16 is town fucking shoot me or him town still wins.
You an just take creed's or blink's role and we're fucked.
December 15th, 2018, 07:53 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782270]if you are town you will see this is a garentted town win I BG MM, MM watches me. if MM dies and I am alive there you go I am scum lych me. This is 100% pro town move.[/QUOTE]
If you and MM are scum it is a GUARANTEED scum win.
Originally Posted by
Mike
if you are town you will see this is a garentted town win I BG MM, MM watches me. if MM dies and I am alive there you go I am scum lych me. This is 100% pro town move.
If you and MM are scum it is a GUARANTEED scum win.
December 15th, 2018, 07:49 PM
The more I think about it, between Mike and MM, Mike HAS to be scum in every scenario. MM's play on stealth ONLY makes sense if Mike was his partner. Admittedly it would make sense if I was his partner too, but I know I am town.
One of me, MM or Mike revealed Slaol wasn't being guarded. I know I am town. If MM's play is to mislynch a town it only makes sense if Mike is scum too. If MM is town, then it has to Mike that revealed Slaol wasn't being guarded.
The more I think about it, between Mike and MM, Mike HAS to be scum in every scenario. MM's play on stealth ONLY makes sense if Mike was his partner. Admittedly it would make sense if I was his partner too, but I know I am town.
One of me, MM or Mike revealed Slaol wasn't being guarded. I know I am town. If MM's play is to mislynch a town it only makes sense if Mike is scum too. If MM is town, then it has to Mike that revealed Slaol wasn't being guarded.
December 15th, 2018, 07:42 PM
[QUOTE=rumox;782257][UNVOTE]Stealthbomber16[/UNVOTE][/QUOTE]
Damn, one step ahead.
Originally Posted by
rumox
Damn, one step ahead.
December 15th, 2018, 07:42 PM
[QUOTE=TheDarkestLight;782256]Or for all I know he could bodyguard you. Mike and I die. Banshis/Rumox dies to Mafia kill.. Then it's 1v1 the next day.
Plenty of ways a town mislynch could kill the town right now.[/QUOTE]
Which is why I'm very inclined to want to lynch Mike right now because he's necessary for every one of this scenarios.
[unvote][/unvote] I want a bit more time.
Originally Posted by
TheDarkestLight
Or for all I know he could bodyguard you. Mike and I die. Banshis/Rumox dies to Mafia kill.. Then it's 1v1 the next day.
Plenty of ways a town mislynch could kill the town right now.
Which is why I'm very inclined to want to lynch Mike right now because he's necessary for every one of this scenarios.
-unvote
I want a bit more time.
December 15th, 2018, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=TheDarkestLight;782255]Because if Mike is your partner he could take creed's ability and then tomorrow is 2v2?[/QUOTE]
Or for all I know he could bodyguard you. Mike and I die. Banshis/Rumox dies to Mafia kill.. Then it's 1v1 the next day.
Plenty of ways a town mislynch could kill the town right now.
Originally Posted by
TheDarkestLight
Because if Mike is your partner he could take creed's ability and then tomorrow is 2v2?
Or for all I know he could bodyguard you. Mike and I die. Banshis/Rumox dies to Mafia kill.. Then it's 1v1 the next day.
Plenty of ways a town mislynch could kill the town right now.
December 15th, 2018, 07:38 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;782251]I don't like the "believe" there. First of all: if I were scum and you, town, I'd just die at night because of you and it would be a town - scum trade, which helps town, unless you would be in a scum team with me. So unless I have under 70 IQ I'm telling truth. [B][U]The fact that you can't shoot SB but you can shoot me has absolutely no impact on how much my action result is believable.[/U][/B]
This right here feels like scum PoV. Not hardcore on it though, but TDL is my top scum read after Stealth.[/QUOTE]
Because if Mike is your partner he could take creed's ability and then tomorrow is 2v2?
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
I don't like the "believe" there. First of all: if I were scum and you, town, I'd just die at night because of you and it would be a town - scum trade, which helps town, unless you would be in a scum team with me. So unless I have under 70 IQ I'm telling truth. The fact that you can't shoot SB but you can shoot me has absolutely no impact on how much my action result is believable.
This right here feels like scum PoV. Not hardcore on it though, but TDL is my top scum read after Stealth.
Because if Mike is your partner he could take creed's ability and then tomorrow is 2v2?
December 15th, 2018, 07:37 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782245]I dont agree with Rumox confirmed town. Because on D1 Creed asking host questions about can mafia shot there own. and host said yes. I wish Naz was alive and confirmed Survivor or not. that cost us a lot. Yes ok I will vote Sb16 Let all of town know I am taking on Naz role and checking Vig Vig shoots Survivor and MM watch ME. I belive this will give us a confirmed account. If big is scum he will shoot me if he shoots me MM will see it. town wins no matter what. if Scum kills Vig and survivor is Town then only one left would be Jailer. Because I know MM is town.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they knew they could shoot their own... however... how would they possibly know Rumox was going to be the one? Why not Banshis? Why not MM? Why not you? It doesn't make sense to shoot Rumox if he was a scum. Unless there's some logic or play I'm missing, it doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=Mike;782250]Dude I trust MM and if MM says SB is scum then sb is scum but you and TDL are going to cost the game for town.[/QUOTE]
I mean, we're literally voting for the person that your "confirmed town" is calling scum while you aren't because you want to throw discredits around.
Originally Posted by
Mike
I dont agree with Rumox confirmed town. Because on D1 Creed asking host questions about can mafia shot there own. and host said yes. I wish Naz was alive and confirmed Survivor or not. that cost us a lot. Yes ok I will vote Sb16 Let all of town know I am taking on Naz role and checking Vig Vig shoots Survivor and MM watch ME. I belive this will give us a confirmed account. If big is scum he will shoot me if he shoots me MM will see it. town wins no matter what. if Scum kills Vig and survivor is Town then only one left would be Jailer. Because I know MM is town.
Yeah, they knew they could shoot their own... however... how would they possibly know Rumox was going to be the one? Why not Banshis? Why not MM? Why not you? It doesn't make sense to shoot Rumox if he was a scum. Unless there's some logic or play I'm missing, it doesn't make sense.
Originally Posted by
Mike
Dude I trust MM and if MM says SB is scum then sb is scum but you and TDL are going to cost the game for town.
I mean, we're literally voting for the person that your "confirmed town" is calling scum while you aren't because you want to throw discredits around.
December 15th, 2018, 07:17 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782239]MM is confirmed Town everyone agree with that?[/QUOTE]
No. Only Rumox is. Like I said, if stealth flips town I'm shooting MM tonight. I'm only choosing MM over stealth because I can't shoot stealth at night.
Originally Posted by
Mike
MM is confirmed Town everyone agree with that?
No. Only Rumox is. Like I said, if stealth flips town I'm shooting MM tonight. I'm only choosing MM over stealth because I can't shoot stealth at night.
December 15th, 2018, 07:15 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782236]before we vote him I am worried about Vig with his shot. This will give MAfia 2 shots tonight if Vig is scum.[/QUOTE]
Well, the lynch on stealth could only go badly is if both me and MM are scum. So unless MM is lying, stealth is scum. You did say you believed MM, so that would mean stealth has to be scum. So if stealth is lynched and I am scum, we go into a 4v1 situation at night... where even if I shot my vig shot at a town it would still be a 2v1 in the morning.
Originally Posted by
Mike
before we vote him I am worried about Vig with his shot. This will give MAfia 2 shots tonight if Vig is scum.
Well, the lynch on stealth could only go badly is if both me and MM are scum. So unless MM is lying, stealth is scum. You did say you believed MM, so that would mean stealth has to be scum. So if stealth is lynched and I am scum, we go into a 4v1 situation at night... where even if I shot my vig shot at a town it would still be a 2v1 in the morning.
December 15th, 2018, 07:05 PM
I'm more inclined to believe MM, simply for the fact that if stealth flips town, I can shoot MM, while I can't shoot stealth.
[vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]
I'm more inclined to believe MM, simply for the fact that if stealth flips town, I can shoot MM, while I can't shoot stealth.
-vote Stealthbomber16
December 15th, 2018, 07:04 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;782229]My HotS game had started lol. Plus, this discussion is very productive, I'll get to reading it, but for now: [vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]
Stealthbomber16 is the only person who visited Slaol. Sooo...[/QUOTE]
Huh. My theory is relatively gone now. I am still suspect about how Stealth could have known about a lack of protection on Slaol though. I simply don't know why a Banshis/Stealth team would shoot Slaol without knowledge that Mike had in fact chosen to be a networker.
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
My HotS game had started lol. Plus, this discussion is very productive, I'll get to reading it, but for now:
-vote Stealthbomber16
Stealthbomber16 is the only person who visited Slaol. Sooo...
Huh. My theory is relatively gone now. I am still suspect about how Stealth could have known about a lack of protection on Slaol though. I simply don't know why a Banshis/Stealth team would shoot Slaol without knowledge that Mike had in fact chosen to be a networker.
December 15th, 2018, 06:40 PM
[QUOTE=Mike;782214]I never said MM was scum STOP putting words in my mouth that I did not say. I said MM has to be town I know I am town so Guess what It is You. that is why I voted you.Did MM say who he was watching? and what I want to know from Rumux or MM is Did you suggest MM to watch anyone but Slaol. if he did not. You see I know for a fact you know 100% I am town. or else I would have been shot by you already. So the fact of you scum painting me tells me you are 100% scum Mafia.[/QUOTE]
"Watching Slaol is a good idea IMO." is what MM said.
Also, I don't know your 100% town at all. here you are putting words in my mouth. Night one I was jailed. Night two I decided not to shoot. Night three I was roleblocked. Night four I shot Banshis to remove his vest in case he is scum. Night two is the only real viable night I could have shot you, but as I stated earlier I merely thought you were just being stupid.
Originally Posted by
Mike
I never said MM was scum STOP putting words in my mouth that I did not say. I said MM has to be town I know I am town so Guess what It is You. that is why I voted you.Did MM say who he was watching? and what I want to know from Rumux or MM is Did you suggest MM to watch anyone but Slaol. if he did not. You see I know for a fact you know 100% I am town. or else I would have been shot by you already. So the fact of you scum painting me tells me you are 100% scum Mafia.
"Watching Slaol is a good idea IMO." is what MM said.
Also, I don't know your 100% town at all. here you are putting words in my mouth. Night one I was jailed. Night two I decided not to shoot. Night three I was roleblocked. Night four I shot Banshis to remove his vest in case he is scum. Night two is the only real viable night I could have shot you, but as I stated earlier I merely thought you were just being stupid.