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Update: The game start will be delayed from 7:00 pm PST on February 17th by 72 hours to February 20th at the same time.

The primary reason for this is that due to Glip's unavailability early on during the game, he will be replaced by Banshis who, in turn, will be very busy until February 22nd. By delaying the game start, I will be giving him an opportunity to participate in day 1, even if his activity will be low for the first half of the day. Additionally, with quite a lot going on atm with me, I could use the extra few days to finalize role cards while also giving at least 24 hours for night 0.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Update: The game start will be delayed from 7:00 pm PST on February 17th by 72 hours to February 20th at the same time.

The primary reason for this is that due to Glip's unavailability early on during the game, he will be replaced by Banshis who, in turn, will be very busy until February 22nd. By delaying the game start, I will be giving him an opportunity to participate in day 1, even if his activity will be low for the first half of the day. Additionally, with quite a lot going on atm with me, I could use the extra few days to finalize role cards while also giving at least 24 hours for night 0.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Even though I don't believe having EoD at a low activity time is that much of a problem, since it's clear that a significant number of players would prefer a different time, I'll set EoD to be 5 hours earlier (7:00 PM PST)

Even though I don't believe having EoD at a low activity time is that much of a problem, since it's clear that a significant number of players would prefer a different time, I'll set EoD to be 5 hours earlier (7:00 PM PST)

@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4595"]Damus_Graves[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11836"]Kenny[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=15807"]Stealthbomber16[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29370"]The Lawyer[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4042"]Bahkieh[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=28592"]Efekannn02[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=9360"]Yayap[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=27614"]Mike[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29730"]Ganelon[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4292"]Glip[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=30619"]Light_Yagami[/URL] @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=36989"]Eclipse[/URL] [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION]



I'll set the current start date for the FM as midnight PST of Feb 16/17 to minimize the overlap with Ganelon's FM. If anyone wants the start to be delayed slightly, PM me. I'll make a comprehensive rules list and start night 0 before then.

There will be RP for the setup. However, it will only be to add flavor and isn't intended to interfere with the gameplay. Safeguards will be added to help ensure this.

@Damus_Graves @Kenny @Stealthbomber16 @The Lawyer @Bahkieh @Efekannn02 @Yayap @Mike @Ganelon @Glip @Light_Yagami @Eclipse @Marshmallow Marshall



I'll set the current start date for the FM as midnight PST of Feb 16/17 to minimize the overlap with Ganelon's FM. If anyone wants the start to be delayed slightly, PM me. I'll make a comprehensive rules list and start night 0 before then.

There will be RP for the setup. However, it will only be to add flavor and isn't intended to interfere with the gameplay. Safeguards will be added to help ensure this.

We have a full sign up now as well as several reliable people reserving. I'll begin starting up the game after the conclusion of Mage's Guild.

We have a full sign up now as well as several reliable people reserving. I'll begin starting up the game after the conclusion of Mage's Guild.

[MENTION=4595]Damus_Graves[/MENTION] [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION]


After giving it some thought, I don't think that I can downsize the setup without heavily gimping the mechanics I would want to have in play. While there are several players that will become available again in a few weeks, I don't think that I am realistically going to fill the last 4 slots that quickly. For that reason, I'm happy to push this game down in the queue and let Ganelon go first if he is able to get the appropriate numbers for his game. If not, setup sizes might have to be downsized for a bit until there is a higher amount of player activity again on the site.

@Damus_Graves @Marshmallow Marshall


After giving it some thought, I don't think that I can downsize the setup without heavily gimping the mechanics I would want to have in play. While there are several players that will become available again in a few weeks, I don't think that I am realistically going to fill the last 4 slots that quickly. For that reason, I'm happy to push this game down in the queue and let Ganelon go first if he is able to get the appropriate numbers for his game. If not, setup sizes might have to be downsized for a bit until there is a higher amount of player activity again on the site.

After giving some recent thought, I have decided to give a vague role list for the 13 player setup for both realities.[COLOR=#ff0000]

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After giving some recent thought, I have decided to give a vague role list for the 13 player setup for both realities.

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This has been added to the setup.

[QUOTE=Ganelon;793998]Any chance you could start the game anytime after next Wednesday? I'll be quite busy till then[/QUOTE]

Sure.

Originally Posted by Ganelon

Any chance you could start the game anytime after next Wednesday? I'll be quite busy till then

Sure.

[QUOTE=The Lawyer;793859]When does the game start?[/QUOTE]

Even though there is still a bit of uncertainty, it will most likely begin some time next week.

Ideally, we will get the last 4 signups in the next few days and then I can set an exact start date based off of that. If it comes to it, I will downsize the setup to work with less then 13 players.

Originally Posted by The Lawyer

When does the game start?

Even though there is still a bit of uncertainty, it will most likely begin some time next week.

Ideally, we will get the last 4 signups in the next few days and then I can set an exact start date based off of that. If it comes to it, I will downsize the setup to work with less then 13 players.

lol, I'll just leave the cult leader in the example setup as it is :)

lol, I'll just leave the cult leader in the example setup as it is

[QUOTE=Glip;793453]I will tentatively move my /reserve back to a /sign, assuming this still isn't starting for another couple weeks.[/QUOTE]

I'm not completely certain on when I'll start the FM. I'll give at least 3 days warning before starting the FM, so if you are still too busy at that point, I'll move you back to reserve.

Originally Posted by Glip

I will tentatively move my /reserve back to a /sign, assuming this still isn't starting for another couple weeks.

I'm not completely certain on when I'll start the FM. I'll give at least 3 days warning before starting the FM, so if you are still too busy at that point, I'll move you back to reserve.

I'm seeing much more support for option A, so no changes will be made to the setup in that regard.


[QUOTE=Damus_Graves;792734]Option A reads to me like there would be two threads going at one time.
Is this accurate or am i misunderstanding @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=2514"]Auckmid[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yes, both threads will be open at the same time.


The following additional notes have been added to the setup...

[QUOTE=Auckmid][B]Additional Rules
[/B]
1) The host reserves the right to add uncommon or unique roles to the setup in addition to the special roles/keywords given above. However...
2) The following mechanics will NOT exist in the setup:
[LIST]
[*]Roles which must die to fulfill their win condition (ex: Jester)
[*]Roles which can win with different opposing factions (ex: Survivor)
[*]Roles that cause other players to change alignments (ex: Cult Leader)
[/LIST]
3) Cause of death will not be given pre-convergence but will be given post-convergence, including the cause of death for people who died prior to the convergence in both realities.
4) No last wills or death notes.[/QUOTE]


Quite a few players who were available earlier in the winter aren't available at the moment. We will see if there is an influx of signups at the conclusion of the ongoing FMs. If not, the start of the FM might need to be delayed for some of those players to become available again.

I'm seeing much more support for option A, so no changes will be made to the setup in that regard.

Originally Posted by Damus_Graves

Option A reads to me like there would be two threads going at one time.
Is this accurate or am i misunderstanding @Auckmid

Yes, both threads will be open at the same time.


The following additional notes have been added to the setup...

Originally Posted by Auckmid

Additional Rules

1) The host reserves the right to add uncommon or unique roles to the setup in addition to the special roles/keywords given above. However...
2) The following mechanics will NOT exist in the setup:

• Roles which must die to fulfill their win condition (ex: Jester)
• Roles which can win with different opposing factions (ex: Survivor)
• Roles that cause other players to change alignments (ex: Cult Leader)

3) Cause of death will not be given pre-convergence but will be given post-convergence, including the cause of death for people who died prior to the convergence in both realities.
4) No last wills or death notes.

Quite a few players who were available earlier in the winter aren't available at the moment. We will see if there is an influx of signups at the conclusion of the ongoing FMs. If not, the start of the FM might need to be delayed for some of those players to become available again.

@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4595"]Damus_Graves[/URL]
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11836"]Kenny[/URL]
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=15807"]Stealthbomber16[/URL]
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29370"]The Lawyer[/URL]
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=27614"]Mike[/URL]
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29377"]Marshmallow Marshall[/URL]
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=9360"]Yayap[/URL]


As mentioned, the FM still won't start for at least a week. However, I would like to get some opinions on the preferred day/night times...


Option A) Both "realities" run in parallel with 72 hour days and 24 hour nights. This is how it is currently in the setup.

Option B) The "realities" are slanted so that only one thread is open at a time. RealityA would be open for 48 hours, followed by RealityB being open for 48 hours, followed by a 24 hour night. Only one thread would need to be attended to at a time, but the overall time required to reach the convergence would be extended by 48 hours (From 8 days irl to 10 days).


I'll do whichever version is preferred by the majority of the players.

@Damus_Graves
@Kenny
@Stealthbomber16
@The Lawyer
@Mike
@Marshmallow Marshall
@Yayap


As mentioned, the FM still won't start for at least a week. However, I would like to get some opinions on the preferred day/night times...


Option A) Both "realities" run in parallel with 72 hour days and 24 hour nights. This is how it is currently in the setup.

Option B) The "realities" are slanted so that only one thread is open at a time. RealityA would be open for 48 hours, followed by RealityB being open for 48 hours, followed by a 24 hour night. Only one thread would need to be attended to at a time, but the overall time required to reach the convergence would be extended by 48 hours (From 8 days irl to 10 days).


I'll do whichever version is preferred by the majority of the players.

[QUOTE=Glip;792363]Move me to /reserve

Life is throwing me curveballs. Don't know how much time I'll have free for games.[/QUOTE]

As mentioned, this game likely won't start for at least a couple weeks. I'll move you to the reserve, but there might not be interference unless you end up being busy long term.

Originally Posted by Glip

Move me to /reserve

Life is throwing me curveballs. Don't know how much time I'll have free for games.

As mentioned, this game likely won't start for at least a couple weeks. I'll move you to the reserve, but there might not be interference unless you end up being busy long term.

[QUOTE=Cryptonic;792154]Yea, I have a baby coming in a few weeks, so I don't think I should commit to a game lol[/QUOTE]

Okay, congrats! You and Damus ended up having kids at pretty much the same time.

Originally Posted by Cryptonic

Yea, I have a baby coming in a few weeks, so I don't think I should commit to a game lol

Okay, congrats! You and Damus ended up having kids at pretty much the same time.

[QUOTE=Cryptonic;792141]i want to play so bad :(
bump[/QUOTE]

As I said this likely won't be going for around another 2 weeks. Are you just not going to have any time to play at all during this period?

Originally Posted by Cryptonic

i want to play so bad
bump

As I said this likely won't be going for around another 2 weeks. Are you just not going to have any time to play at all during this period?

Setup: [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43663-S-FM-Converging-Realities-(13-Players)?p=792113#post792113"]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43663-S-FM-Converging-Realities-(13-Players)[/URL]

A few minor changes may be made to the setup before start. I'm posting signups now, but the game will likely not start for a couple of weeks to reduce conflict with Damus'/Mike's FM.
[CENTER]
Game Start:[URL]https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=feb+20+2019+7pm+PST[/URL]

[U][B]Signups

[/B][/U]1. Damus_Graves
2. Kenny
3. Stealthbomber16
4. The Lawyer
5. Bahkieh
6. Efekannn02
7. Yayap
8. Mike
9. Ganelon
10. Banshis
11. Light_Yagami
12. Eclipse
13. Marshmallow Marshall

[B][U]Reserves[/U][/B]
1. Glip
2. xDarkDragonDx
3. Numbertwo
4. Rumox[/CENTER]

Setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43663-S-FM-Converging-Realities-(13-Players)

A few minor changes may be made to the setup before start. I'm posting signups now, but the game will likely not start for a couple of weeks to reduce conflict with Damus'/Mike's FM.

Game Start:https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...0+2019+7pm+PST

Signups

1. Damus_Graves
2. Kenny
3. Stealthbomber16
4. The Lawyer
5. Bahkieh
6. Efekannn02
7. Yayap
8. Mike
9. Ganelon
10. Banshis
11. Light_Yagami
12. Eclipse
13. Marshmallow Marshall

Reserves
1. Glip
2. xDarkDragonDx
3. Numbertwo
4. Rumox