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[QUOTE=AIVION;585490][color=#00FF00]I also want to add that I'm honestly not able to give this game the attention it deserves... And without sen it's practically impossible to really do so. Sorry all.[/color][/QUOTE]

whoops... lol.

Originally Posted by AIVION

I also want to add that I'm honestly not able to give this game the attention it deserves... And without sen it's practically impossible to really do so. Sorry all.

whoops... lol.

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[color=#00ff00]@Host I would like my slot to be replaced please. I can see why Firebringer Rage quitted from this game. Also without sen I'm not having fun anymore. I may reconsider if Sen actually responds to me on skype however, but please get one ready.[/color]

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@Host I would like my slot to be replaced please. I can see why Firebringer Rage quitted from this game. Also without sen I'm not having fun anymore. I may reconsider if Sen actually responds to me on skype however, but please get one ready.

Meh

[unvote][/unvote]

I'll just be perfectly honest, I don't honestly care. I don't think Sen is coming back. I'm just gonna follow whoever makes the most sense.

I'm practically lost.. the reads I posted were basically when sen and I were actually giving a shit. I thought sen would come back...

I was wrong... Meh.

Meh

-unvote

I'll just be perfectly honest, I don't honestly care. I don't think Sen is coming back. I'm just gonna follow whoever makes the most sense.

I'm practically lost.. the reads I posted were basically when sen and I were actually giving a shit. I thought sen would come back...

I was wrong... Meh.

[QUOTE=SparkNuts;585099]Okay i'm home now. I know for a fact that keiichi is cult. His vote has been on me for almost 17 hours now. 17 hours that the three cult could have hammered me and won the game(if keiichi was town). But i'm still alive, hooray![/QUOTE]

Or your other culties are laying low/ or voting me right now (Gyrlander)

Seriously... Why are we reading this guy as town? Who would even, in their right mind, read this guy as town?

So as an update to my reads: I believe Gyrlander is more so his other cult buddy with slaol over Superduck, and he's just sheeping me with RLVG hoping to get the mislynch. I guess I'll retract my reads on Superduck since Duck is gone now and It's just SuperJack... And I've played with SuperJack before so I have no real un-biased reads here... Sorry SJ :(

Anyway, I'm off for a little while, If sen decided to return from the dead and post for me great... If not Oh well.

Hopefully town makes the right call here and lynches this obvious scum. I'm hoping for Trainer red myself.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by SparkNuts

Okay i'm home now. I know for a fact that keiichi is cult. His vote has been on me for almost 17 hours now. 17 hours that the three cult could have hammered me and won the game(if keiichi was town). But i'm still alive, hooray!

Or your other culties are laying low/ or voting me right now (Gyrlander)

Seriously... Why are we reading this guy as town? Who would even, in their right mind, read this guy as town?

So as an update to my reads: I believe Gyrlander is more so his other cult buddy with slaol over Superduck, and he's just sheeping me with RLVG hoping to get the mislynch. I guess I'll retract my reads on Superduck since Duck is gone now and It's just SuperJack... And I've played with SuperJack before so I have no real un-biased reads here... Sorry SJ

Anyway, I'm off for a little while, If sen decided to return from the dead and post for me great... If not Oh well.

Hopefully town makes the right call here and lynches this obvious scum. I'm hoping for Trainer red myself.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;585107]If you're truly town just vote Keiichi.[/QUOTE]

Telling your cult buddy to vote me?

LOL.

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

If you're truly town just vote Keiichi.

Telling your cult buddy to vote me?

LOL.

[QUOTE=RLVG;584976]Honestly, I personally think Red is either Gyrlander, or Keiichi, however I rather take my bet on that it's actually Keiichi.
Convince us that you're actually not a tasty, wild magicarp.[/QUOTE]

...What the fuck? Tasty, wild magicarp?

DUDE. YOU DON'T EAT US. WE'RE FRIENDS NOT FOOD.

Originally Posted by RLVG

Honestly, I personally think Red is either Gyrlander, or Keiichi, however I rather take my bet on that it's actually Keiichi.
Convince us that you're actually not a tasty, wild magicarp.

...What the fuck? Tasty, wild magicarp?

DUDE. YOU DON'T EAT US. WE'RE FRIENDS NOT FOOD.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;584951]RLVG, Squirtle bites before Trainer captures. Therefore, I can't really trust you. You have been confirmed as Town respecting to Night 0, not the second capture.[/QUOTE]

Also nice slip Gyrlander, Squirtle can't bite N0, we already mentioned this... Which is why I say it's impossible for RLVG To really be culted since the bite happens first.


...I'm having second thoughts about you now... Maybe It's you, Sparknuts, and Slaol and not Superduck...

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

RLVG, Squirtle bites before Trainer captures. Therefore, I can't really trust you. You have been confirmed as Town respecting to Night 0, not the second capture.

Also nice slip Gyrlander, Squirtle can't bite N0, we already mentioned this... Which is why I say it's impossible for RLVG To really be culted since the bite happens first.


...I'm having second thoughts about you now... Maybe It's you, Sparknuts, and Slaol and not Superduck...

DAY* Jesus I'm still tired.

DAY* Jesus I'm still tired.

[QUOTE=Keiichi;584968]Interesting, We've been on the ice for a while our Hydra (Sen Being a-wall and I been busy with reports/Real life) So I can't 100% Speak for my Hydra partner from some of the things you pointed out, RLVG.

However I do believe in the clarence Lynch, he was actively Lurking and those people just scream scum to the both of us. Take that as you will.

I also must of missed the Bulbasaur claim from RLVG, I merely skimmed through last day's chat, I can easily re-read it though, so my reads are semi-old. But I figured saying my reads is better than not posting at all unlike last game.

You can vote me all you want, but I have it clear as day in my mind that sparknuts IS In fact Trainer red or at the worst case scenario, a cult (Which isn't a bad lynch imo)

I mean, can you all honestly say he's really town with his plays this game? I dare you to do an iso on him and tell me for certain. (Because I was able to do a 5-6 minute skim through his posts this game and found nothing but fluff/make up time for being inconsistent for the first 2 days.)

No words for Gyrlander, since Gyrlander just sheeps (Get an opinion man, don't just sheep vote.)[/QUOTE]

Unlike last game* Derp xD

Originally Posted by Keiichi

Interesting, We've been on the ice for a while our Hydra (Sen Being a-wall and I been busy with reports/Real life) So I can't 100% Speak for my Hydra partner from some of the things you pointed out, RLVG.

However I do believe in the clarence Lynch, he was actively Lurking and those people just scream scum to the both of us. Take that as you will.

I also must of missed the Bulbasaur claim from RLVG, I merely skimmed through last day's chat, I can easily re-read it though, so my reads are semi-old. But I figured saying my reads is better than not posting at all unlike last game.

You can vote me all you want, but I have it clear as day in my mind that sparknuts IS In fact Trainer red or at the worst case scenario, a cult (Which isn't a bad lynch imo)

I mean, can you all honestly say he's really town with his plays this game? I dare you to do an iso on him and tell me for certain. (Because I was able to do a 5-6 minute skim through his posts this game and found nothing but fluff/make up time for being inconsistent for the first 2 days.)

No words for Gyrlander, since Gyrlander just sheeps (Get an opinion man, don't just sheep vote.)

Unlike last game* Derp xD

Interesting, We've been on the ice for a while our Hydra (Sen Being a-wall and I been busy with reports/Real life) So I can't 100% Speak for my Hydra partner from some of the things you pointed out, RLVG.

However I do believe in the clarence Lynch, he was actively Lurking and those people just scream scum to the both of us. Take that as you will.

I also must of missed the Bulbasaur claim from RLVG, I merely skimmed through last day's chat, I can easily re-read it though, so my reads are semi-old. But I figured saying my reads is better than not posting at all unlike last game.

You can vote me all you want, but I have it clear as day in my mind that sparknuts IS In fact Trainer red or at the worst case scenario, a cult (Which isn't a bad lynch imo)

I mean, can you all honestly say he's really town with his plays this game? I dare you to do an iso on him and tell me for certain. (Because I was able to do a 5-6 minute skim through his posts this game and found nothing but fluff/make up time for being inconsistent for the first 2 days.)

No words for Gyrlander, since Gyrlander just sheeps (Get an opinion man, don't just sheep vote.)

Interesting, We've been on the ice for a while our Hydra (Sen Being a-wall and I been busy with reports/Real life) So I can't 100% Speak for my Hydra partner from some of the things you pointed out, RLVG.

However I do believe in the clarence Lynch, he was actively Lurking and those people just scream scum to the both of us. Take that as you will.

I also must of missed the Bulbasaur claim from RLVG, I merely skimmed through last day's chat, I can easily re-read it though, so my reads are semi-old. But I figured saying my reads is better than not posting at all unlike last game.

You can vote me all you want, but I have it clear as day in my mind that sparknuts IS In fact Trainer red or at the worst case scenario, a cult (Which isn't a bad lynch imo)

I mean, can you all honestly say he's really town with his plays this game? I dare you to do an iso on him and tell me for certain. (Because I was able to do a 5-6 minute skim through his posts this game and found nothing but fluff/make up time for being inconsistent for the first 2 days.)

No words for Gyrlander, since Gyrlander just sheeps (Get an opinion man, don't just sheep vote.)

[B][SIZE=4]However, I will be semi-busy most of the morning/afternoon for today, so I will just leave my reads here for now:
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[B]RLVG - [/B]Strongest town read, their hydra had great reads and consistency. Also confirmed town from the dead squirtle.

[B]SparkNuts -[/B] Scum (Trainer Red): As stated before, a lot of tells can suggest this player is more than likely Trainer Red. He's even saying that RLVG is cult too... And also mixing Slaol in there as well, which is an easy thing to do since Slaol basically admitted to being cult

[B]Gyrlander -[/B] Town read: I read him as bulbasaur, because of his soft claims. He also choose good lynch targets, and was willing to work with the town.

[B]Morp (MattZed+Orpz) -[/B] null to town lean - Possible cult, but as of right now I'm convinced of who cult is... if the second cult isn't Superduck, it's more than likely him.

[B]Slaol -[/B] Strongest scum read - He admits to cult... However he more than likely isn't Trainer Red... That would be too easy.

[B]SUPERDUCK (SuperJack) -[/B] Scum, first possible suspect for culted alongside Slaol. His attitude and soft claims of charmander basically made our slot suspect him for the longest time. Too aggressive for town, he even was the first to try to discredit the actual squirtle. Big signs here, only scum would want a slot claiming a PR lynched like this.

Theory on the cult:

Sparknuts (Trainer Red) Converted Slaol N0. N1 he more than likely then converted SuperDuck. (Based on his scum read on him and changed it to a town read. Chronologically this makes sense.) The best bet is to lynch Sparknuts because if we don't Lynch red TODAY, we risk another player being converted...

However please feel free to comment/discuss my reads here... I want to hear everyone's opinion. If we mislynch here... We basically lose. But I am for sure convinced of Sparknut's guilt.. It's just too unlikely that he's a Magikarp by his earlier play.

However, I will be semi-busy most of the morning/afternoon for today, so I will just leave my reads here for now:


RLVG - Strongest town read, their hydra had great reads and consistency. Also confirmed town from the dead squirtle.

SparkNuts - Scum (Trainer Red): As stated before, a lot of tells can suggest this player is more than likely Trainer Red. He's even saying that RLVG is cult too... And also mixing Slaol in there as well, which is an easy thing to do since Slaol basically admitted to being cult

Gyrlander - Town read: I read him as bulbasaur, because of his soft claims. He also choose good lynch targets, and was willing to work with the town.

Morp (MattZed+Orpz) - null to town lean - Possible cult, but as of right now I'm convinced of who cult is... if the second cult isn't Superduck, it's more than likely him.

Slaol - Strongest scum read - He admits to cult... However he more than likely isn't Trainer Red... That would be too easy.

SUPERDUCK (SuperJack) - Scum, first possible suspect for culted alongside Slaol. His attitude and soft claims of charmander basically made our slot suspect him for the longest time. Too aggressive for town, he even was the first to try to discredit the actual squirtle. Big signs here, only scum would want a slot claiming a PR lynched like this.

Theory on the cult:

Sparknuts (Trainer Red) Converted Slaol N0. N1 he more than likely then converted SuperDuck. (Based on his scum read on him and changed it to a town read. Chronologically this makes sense.) The best bet is to lynch Sparknuts because if we don't Lynch red TODAY, we risk another player being converted...

However please feel free to comment/discuss my reads here... I want to hear everyone's opinion. If we mislynch here... We basically lose. But I am for sure convinced of Sparknut's guilt.. It's just too unlikely that he's a Magikarp by his earlier play.

[QUOTE=SparkNuts;584921]Well i was just saying some possibilities in my mind but yeah i forgot that sherrif cleared Fire Viking(RLVG). The name change fucked me up.[/QUOTE]

Sure you did... That's a nice excuse there... Sorry buddy but you're pegged as Scum to me. It just makes the most sense..

Originally Posted by SparkNuts

Well i was just saying some possibilities in my mind but yeah i forgot that sherrif cleared Fire Viking(RLVG). The name change fucked me up.

Sure you did... That's a nice excuse there... Sorry buddy but you're pegged as Scum to me. It just makes the most sense..

[QUOTE=SparkNuts;584919]Assuming Slaol is cult, Superduck(jack now?) has been going after him the hardest and RLVG seems to be defending him the most.

He's basically saying there is no way slaol could be cult because he would be gamethrowing if he was, which isn't true.

That would make slaol and RLVG cult together.

Superduck has also been on Gyrlander's side all game pretty openly. I could see them being a team since day 1. I really don't know about morp or keiichi at this point.[/QUOTE]

Did you just say that RLVG is cult... When The only person the squirtle even bit was RLVG? He's basically confirmed town at this point.

This is basic scum deflection... You're red trying to get attention off yourself. Maybe Slaol is your cult buddy, but Jesus you've gotten so low you'd even try to accuse RLVG?

Scum detected here guys. Lynch.

Originally Posted by SparkNuts

Assuming Slaol is cult, Superduck(jack now?) has been going after him the hardest and RLVG seems to be defending him the most.

He's basically saying there is no way slaol could be cult because he would be gamethrowing if he was, which isn't true.

That would make slaol and RLVG cult together.

Superduck has also been on Gyrlander's side all game pretty openly. I could see them being a team since day 1. I really don't know about morp or keiichi at this point.

Did you just say that RLVG is cult... When The only person the squirtle even bit was RLVG? He's basically confirmed town at this point.

This is basic scum deflection... You're red trying to get attention off yourself. Maybe Slaol is your cult buddy, but Jesus you've gotten so low you'd even try to accuse RLVG?

Scum detected here guys. Lynch.

[QUOTE=SparkNuts;584911]I'm still a beautiful shiny magikarp. Do you want to hand cult the win that badly?[/QUOTE]

No, but I've always had you as my top scum read:

1.) Your reads this game have been all over the place and not consistent. Saying superduck is town and then shifting after really giving no real reason why.

2.) You gave zero contribution during D1, the most pivotal time for town to scum hunt. Most scum lurk early and try to play catch up later... that's you in a "Nut" shell.

3.) You honestly believed that Fire was squirtle... That's cute.

My take is that you're either Trainer Red (Saying "we shoud lynch trainer red today" as a cover up for yourself) Or you've been converted since N0 or possibly N1. I can't really tell. It would make sense N0 since it's been since D1 that I scum read you.

Please, reiterate for this town your new reads... I'm sure they're Riveting.

Originally Posted by SparkNuts

I'm still a beautiful shiny magikarp. Do you want to hand cult the win that badly?

No, but I've always had you as my top scum read:

1.) Your reads this game have been all over the place and not consistent. Saying superduck is town and then shifting after really giving no real reason why.

2.) You gave zero contribution during D1, the most pivotal time for town to scum hunt. Most scum lurk early and try to play catch up later... that's you in a "Nut" shell.

3.) You honestly believed that Fire was squirtle... That's cute.

My take is that you're either Trainer Red (Saying "we shoud lynch trainer red today" as a cover up for yourself) Or you've been converted since N0 or possibly N1. I can't really tell. It would make sense N0 since it's been since D1 that I scum read you.

Please, reiterate for this town your new reads... I'm sure they're Riveting.

[QUOTE=SparkNuts;584908]So its 4v3, we pretty much have to lynch Red today to win.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, we do.

[vote]SparkNuts[/vote]

Originally Posted by SparkNuts

So its 4v3, we pretty much have to lynch Red today to win.

Indeed, we do.

-vote SparkNuts

Hello everyone. Sorry for the amount of inactivity from our account. Sen and I have been busy, but here we go:

Sparknuts - Still suspicious of this one...

Richard Dawkins - People say he's town based off of trolling... I really don't see how this even pertains to town behavior? Then again knowing SJ he thinks trolling is town (I know why you do btw, don't play coy :P)

However, the new Empathy is the most suspicious... It sounded like possible cult trying to get a misclaim off with the fail squirtle claim. Morp's explanation is also valid too.

So it's hammer time:

[vote]Shifty[/vote]

Hello everyone. Sorry for the amount of inactivity from our account. Sen and I have been busy, but here we go:

Sparknuts - Still suspicious of this one...

Richard Dawkins - People say he's town based off of trolling... I really don't see how this even pertains to town behavior? Then again knowing SJ he thinks trolling is town (I know why you do btw, don't play coy :P)

However, the new Empathy is the most suspicious... It sounded like possible cult trying to get a misclaim off with the fail squirtle claim. Morp's explanation is also valid too.

So it's hammer time:

-vote Shifty

[QUOTE=BananaCucho;583684][L]5[/L]

Whoops[/QUOTE]

It's all good.

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

5 votes to hammer.

Whoops

It's all good.

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;583159]... oh I kinda assumed everyone was vested in the game. I guess I care too much. [/QUOTE]
You care alright. Regardless of alignment or anything particular to this game, don't give up on being an active player just because some others do. </offtopic>

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

... oh I kinda assumed everyone was vested in the game. I guess I care too much.

You care alright. Regardless of alignment or anything particular to this game, don't give up on being an active player just because some others do.

[QUOTE=Clarence;583152]Tell me, if I flipped town, what would you do?[/QUOTE]
Keep scumhunting and internally scream "fucking useless lurkers".

Originally Posted by Clarence

Tell me, if I flipped town, what would you do?

Keep scumhunting and internally scream "fucking useless lurkers".

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;583145]didn't read the post as all, i am pretty sure that is OGI and should be deleted? IIRC superjack told me not to post skypelog chat, or else I would just post my skype chat with SJ and i would be confirmed town[/QUOTE]
It's not in the rules, and previous hydra games have allowed to post Skype chats, but let's pretend they aren't chat logs, and instead just "old thoughts of mine regarding you". Plus for all you know, I can be making up all of that.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

didn't read the post as all, i am pretty sure that is OGI and should be deleted? IIRC superjack told me not to post skypelog chat, or else I would just post my skype chat with SJ and i would be confirmed town

It's not in the rules, and previous hydra games have allowed to post Skype chats, but let's pretend they aren't chat logs, and instead just "old thoughts of mine regarding you". Plus for all you know, I can be making up all of that.

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;583138]
This game in particular he has said "fake vote its not in the vote count" "someone really wants to get fucked"
For me personally I see this as the equivalent as "any leads" or "random", as in hes pretending he is a part of the town, but not actually contributing

"I think clarence is charmander we should lynch him"
Piggybacking off of somebody's read that we are linked, but that he could get behind lynching clarence, easy mislynch for him

"im curious of morp" "what did he do"
Oh look I don't have a fucking backbone I will look to others reads and never give my reads? I am sure I will vote all by myself! OH WAIT Nope I will vote somebody because another person told me to. This is mafia not fucking buildasheep workshop.

Like I said, I will receive a lot of hate for this read, but I rather be wrong than not be heard.

-Duck[/QUOTE]
I agree that Spark has been mostly sheeping and/or not really contributing much that hasn't been said before.
What makes you think this is scum sheeping as opposed to Town not really bothering with the game?

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

This game in particular he has said "fake vote its not in the vote count" "someone really wants to get fucked"
For me personally I see this as the equivalent as "any leads" or "random", as in hes pretending he is a part of the town, but not actually contributing

"I think clarence is charmander we should lynch him"
Piggybacking off of somebody's read that we are linked, but that he could get behind lynching clarence, easy mislynch for him

"im curious of morp" "what did he do"
Oh look I don't have a fucking backbone I will look to others reads and never give my reads? I am sure I will vote all by myself! OH WAIT Nope I will vote somebody because another person told me to. This is mafia not fucking buildasheep workshop.

Like I said, I will receive a lot of hate for this read, but I rather be wrong than not be heard.

-Duck

I agree that Spark has been mostly sheeping and/or not really contributing much that hasn't been said before.
What makes you think this is scum sheeping as opposed to Town not really bothering with the game?

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;583124]So you think I am charmander, and clarence is the cult? If so who do you think clarence is allied with if not me. You seem to have gone hard on me, to tunneling clarence.

-Duck[/QUOTE]
Like I've told AIVION in Skype since the start, I'm not sure you are scum, but your replies and behaviour have been anti-town as fuck.

Some quotes by me from Skype regarding you:
[quote]
What do you make of Superduck? Legit scum or lynchbaiting?
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Agreed. Most if not all attacks by Superduck are based on weak, rather meaningless things. Regardless of whether they are right or not.
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There's a good chance that SuperDuck isn't scum. Whatever the case, what he's doing is fucking horrible play, and the Town would benefit from his death either way.[/quote]
No idea. It's that point where you have to tell if they're dumb or scum.
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[/quote]

At the start, I though you were lynchbaiting. Then started scumreading you after you keep trying to force scumreads on this account after my "stop wasting my time" reply, which exposed how said reads had no logical basis. I can't decide if you are actually scum or simply playing bad due to emotions.

Clarence, on the other hand, is scum 100%. I'm not sure about their partner, but this failed attempt by Morp at derailing the lynch will be damning as hell if Clarence is indeed the Trainer.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

So you think I am charmander, and clarence is the cult? If so who do you think clarence is allied with if not me. You seem to have gone hard on me, to tunneling clarence.

-Duck

Like I've told AIVION in Skype since the start, I'm not sure you are scum, but your replies and behaviour have been anti-town as fuck.

Some quotes by me from Skype regarding you:

What do you make of Superduck? Legit scum or lynchbaiting?
---------------------------------------------
Agreed. Most if not all attacks by Superduck are based on weak, rather meaningless things. Regardless of whether they are right or not.
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There's a good chance that SuperDuck isn't scum. Whatever the case, what he's doing is fucking horrible play, and the Town would benefit from his death either way.

No idea. It's that point where you have to tell if they're dumb or scum.
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[/quote]

At the start, I though you were lynchbaiting. Then started scumreading you after you keep trying to force scumreads on this account after my "stop wasting my time" reply, which exposed how said reads had no logical basis. I can't decide if you are actually scum or simply playing bad due to emotions.

Clarence, on the other hand, is scum 100%. I'm not sure about their partner, but this failed attempt by Morp at derailing the lynch will be damning as hell if Clarence is indeed the Trainer.

@>Morp: I've stated multiple times how Clarence's play is scummy as fuck.
You tried to justify derailing the thread on the basis that Clarence is just a lurker. Well, not my problem; we (AIVION and myself, and then Slaol) were asking questions to Clarence while he wa online, and he refused to do anything of use.

I'm not going to let this worthless scum live just because he's a lurker. Hell, in case you've been living under a rock, I've been pushing pretty hard to make this community as unfriendly to lurkers as possible. and I'm not letting scum win by not playing.

@>Morp: I've stated multiple times how Clarence's play is scummy as fuck.
You tried to justify derailing the thread on the basis that Clarence is just a lurker. Well, not my problem; we (AIVION and myself, and then Slaol) were asking questions to Clarence while he wa online, and he refused to do anything of use.

I'm not going to let this worthless scum live just because he's a lurker. Hell, in case you've been living under a rock, I've been pushing pretty hard to make this community as unfriendly to lurkers as possible. and I'm not letting scum win by not playing.

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;583121]-Pissedoffduck who really has a strong strong strong strong strong mafia read on sparknuts[/QUOTE]
Fancy elaborating on that read?

When you voted Sparks, all you said is that you'd like to hear more from him.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

-Pissedoffduck who really has a strong strong strong strong strong mafia read on sparknuts

Fancy elaborating on that read?

When you voted Sparks, all you said is that you'd like to hear more from him.

[QUOTE=Morp;583102]You posted three minutes after I did. Did you actually read my post, or are you just content to lock in a poor lynch 7 hours before day ends?[/QUOTE]
I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.

Originally Posted by Morp

You posted three minutes after I did. Did you actually read my post, or are you just content to lock in a poor lynch 7 hours before day ends?

I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.

LOL at Morp not doing shit all day long (even when both orpz and MattZed have been lurking this thread multiple times) and trying to derail the lynch at the last moment.

LOL at Morp not doing shit all day long (even when both orpz and MattZed have been lurking this thread multiple times) and trying to derail the lynch at the last moment.

[quote]The arguments against me are rather thin, and I can't refute if there isn't any solid one.[/quote]
What's not solid about you not scumhunting, voting without backing it up even when demanded for reasons, not responding to accusations made over a day ago, and being among the most fucking useless players all day long?

The arguments against me are rather thin, and I can't refute if there isn't any solid one.

What's not solid about you not scumhunting, voting without backing it up even when demanded for reasons, not responding to accusations made over a day ago, and being among the most fucking useless players all day long?

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;582906]The cult have a free win, who wouldn't want to be culted in a game where probable towns tunnel on a PR, and the lurkers do not get punished.

I have been trying to discuss game related content for the past 48 hours, you are just saying random bullshit. Once clarence has a fifth vote, and gets hammered you will see how fucked town is. I pray to god hes charmander because I do not see him as ever being cult with anyone but me or a lurker.

What do you want to discuss, how you suck at the game?

On a less personal note, have you mentioned the other players at all this game? Where are your reads at outside of fire, myself, and clarence

-Duck[/QUOTE]
This isn't the fucking SC2 mod. I don't vomit reads for the sake of it.

Whatever the case, this is blatant gamethrowing. If you don't get modkilled by the time the night starts, it's fair to assume that you are confirmed scum.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

The cult have a free win, who wouldn't want to be culted in a game where probable towns tunnel on a PR, and the lurkers do not get punished.

I have been trying to discuss game related content for the past 48 hours, you are just saying random bullshit. Once clarence has a fifth vote, and gets hammered you will see how fucked town is. I pray to god hes charmander because I do not see him as ever being cult with anyone but me or a lurker.

What do you want to discuss, how you suck at the game?

On a less personal note, have you mentioned the other players at all this game? Where are your reads at outside of fire, myself, and clarence

-Duck

This isn't the fucking SC2 mod. I don't vomit reads for the sake of it.

Whatever the case, this is blatant gamethrowing. If you don't get modkilled by the time the night starts, it's fair to assume that you are confirmed scum.

[quote]How is wanting to join the cult gamethrowing.[/quote]
Because that's against your win condition if you are Town?

All the caps in the world won't make your statements any less idiotic.
Whatever the case, unless you have some actual game-related content to discuss, I'm done here with you.

How is wanting to join the cult gamethrowing.

Because that's against your win condition if you are Town?

All the caps in the world won't make your statements any less idiotic.
Whatever the case, unless you have some actual game-related content to discuss, I'm done here with you.

Funny, seeing how SuperJack's new strategy is to avoid softclaiming TPR D1 to avoid getting nightkilled. Now you claim being a TPR, risking death and conversion, just to try and avoid getting roleblocked.

Not to mention that saying you will join the cult is gamethrowing, so unless you are part of the cult, you should get modkilled. Thanks for making it even easier.

Funny, seeing how SuperJack's new strategy is to avoid softclaiming TPR D1 to avoid getting nightkilled. Now you claim being a TPR, risking death and conversion, just to try and avoid getting roleblocked.

Not to mention that saying you will join the cult is gamethrowing, so unless you are part of the cult, you should get modkilled. Thanks for making it even easier.

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;582855]No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.[/QUOTE]

We're going to be roleblocking you tonight.

Either way, it looks like your cult is about to end. Poor you.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.

We're going to be roleblocking you tonight.

Either way, it looks like your cult is about to end. Poor you.

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;582840]I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?[/QUOTE]

Then prove it by voting him.

Actions speak louder than words.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?

Then prove it by voting him.

Actions speak louder than words.

[QUOTE=Fire Viking;582782]If Clarence is the trainer, they can be roleblocked as well. How is either more likely trainer than the other? How do you differentiate that in Day 1?

-Fire[/QUOTE]
Same way I've pegged the Arsonist while playing as a Jester. I'm a wizard.

As long as the Trainer is alive, the roleblocker is forced to target them every night. If the roleblocker dies or is already converted, the Trainer can get a recruit before getting lynched the day after.

There's literally no reason for thinking that anyone besides the Trainer is our top priority.

Originally Posted by Fire Viking

If Clarence is the trainer, they can be roleblocked as well. How is either more likely trainer than the other? How do you differentiate that in Day 1?

-Fire

Same way I've pegged the Arsonist while playing as a Jester. I'm a wizard.

As long as the Trainer is alive, the roleblocker is forced to target them every night. If the roleblocker dies or is already converted, the Trainer can get a recruit before getting lynched the day after.

There's literally no reason for thinking that anyone besides the Trainer is our top priority.

[QUOTE=Fire Viking;582780]We really should be lynching SuperDuck.
Clarence is a day two lynch IMO.

Lets flip SuperDuck and go from there.[/QUOTE]

Clarence's got more votes, and they are likely the Trainer. SuperDuck is getting roleblocked tonight anyway.
Let's not risk a no-lynch.

Originally Posted by Fire Viking

We really should be lynching SuperDuck.
Clarence is a day two lynch IMO.

Lets flip SuperDuck and go from there.

Clarence's got more votes, and they are likely the Trainer. SuperDuck is getting roleblocked tonight anyway.
Let's not risk a no-lynch.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;582733]Anybody who has something sensible or worthwhile to say should be able to say it calmly and soberly, relying on the words themselves to convey his meaning, without resorting to yelling.
Yours truly,
Richard Dawkins[/QUOTE]

"Don't kid yourself that you're going to live again after you're dead; you're not. Make the most of the one life you've got. Live it to the full."

Yea, I can quote you too. Guess what? You're gonna die and you're gonna stay dead until you:

[SIZE=5][B]FUCKING.START.PLAYING![/B][/SIZE]

Originally Posted by Richard Dawkins

Anybody who has something sensible or worthwhile to say should be able to say it calmly and soberly, relying on the words themselves to convey his meaning, without resorting to yelling.
Yours truly,
Richard Dawkins

"Don't kid yourself that you're going to live again after you're dead; you're not. Make the most of the one life you've got. Live it to the full."

Yea, I can quote you too. Guess what? You're gonna die and you're gonna stay dead until you:

FUCKING.START.PLAYING!

Fire Viking already said he's down for lynching Clarence.

@>Gyrlander: As much as I'd enjoy getting rid of this Dawkins specimen, let's be realistic here; he's not getting lynched today. Your vote would be of more use on Clarence.
[MENTION=4897]Empathy[/MENTION]: Can we leave Supercuck for tomorrow? We can roleblocking tonight, or whatever. Let's just make sure that today doesn't end in a no-lynch.

Fire Viking already said he's down for lynching Clarence.

@>Gyrlander: As much as I'd enjoy getting rid of this Dawkins specimen, let's be realistic here; he's not getting lynched today. Your vote would be of more use on Clarence.
@Empathy : Can we leave Supercuck for tomorrow? We can roleblocking tonight, or whatever. Let's just make sure that today doesn't end in a no-lynch.

12~ hours to add 3 votes on Clarence.

12~ hours to add 3 votes on Clarence.

[QUOTE=Empathy17;582650]hi there ika here

anyone need anything[/QUOTE]

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

Originally Posted by Empathy17

hi there ika here

anyone need anything

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

[QUOTE=SUPERDUCK;582604]Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK[/QUOTE]

There's really a difference between Lurker's and scum trying to pretend they're lurking... If you noticed Clarence tried to make a incredibly Scummy discussion yesterday right after they voted us. And when asked for his reasoning, all he said was "I am reserving my Judgement." (I specified the last time I saw this shitty excuse, they were scum. I'm not taking chances.)

I dunno what your policy is on lurkers, but from what this post is telling me you're avoiding a lynch on Clarence for more than just this reason. And that makes our Hydra feel Even better with it.

Originally Posted by SUPERDUCK

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

There's really a difference between Lurker's and scum trying to pretend they're lurking... If you noticed Clarence tried to make a incredibly Scummy discussion yesterday right after they voted us. And when asked for his reasoning, all he said was "I am reserving my Judgement." (I specified the last time I saw this shitty excuse, they were scum. I'm not taking chances.)

I dunno what your policy is on lurkers, but from what this post is telling me you're avoiding a lynch on Clarence for more than just this reason. And that makes our Hydra feel Even better with it.

I know his kind; bad play, useless lurkeres, can't get out of the shithole by themselves, stall the whole day, and then at the end try to save themselves from getting lynched by throwing some random claim.

Ideally, we would be voting someone else by now, but this plebeian responses do nothing but solidify the vote.

I'm going to take a break, since discussing with this one is a pointless, one-sided exercise, and everyone else seems to be away. Whatever the case, this one needs to hang today.
Magikarps of the world, unite!

I know his kind; bad play, useless lurkeres, can't get out of the shithole by themselves, stall the whole day, and then at the end try to save themselves from getting lynched by throwing some random claim.

Ideally, we would be voting someone else by now, but this plebeian responses do nothing but solidify the vote.

I'm going to take a break, since discussing with this one is a pointless, one-sided exercise, and everyone else seems to be away. Whatever the case, this one needs to hang today.
Magikarps of the world, unite!

[QUOTE=Clarence;582499]If you are so confident, then go ahead and convince the rest.[/QUOTE]

Actually it's you who needs to convince us... Since you are at the top of a couple people's scumlists.

We're waiting for your contribution to the game... Instead of your piss poor excuses.

Originally Posted by Clarence

If you are so confident, then go ahead and convince the rest.

Actually it's you who needs to convince us... Since you are at the top of a couple people's scumlists.

We're waiting for your contribution to the game... Instead of your piss poor excuses.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582495]There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.[/QUOTE]

Seconding my partner here... The way you've gone about this game so far has been at the POV Of a lurking scum too afraid to speak his mind.

The last time I saw someone say "I'm reserving Judgement." They were scum trying to hold back because they didn't want to reveal their teammate.

Makes me think you're Trainer Red even harder now.

Originally Posted by Clarence

There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.

Seconding my partner here... The way you've gone about this game so far has been at the POV Of a lurking scum too afraid to speak his mind.

The last time I saw someone say "I'm reserving Judgement." They were scum trying to hold back because they didn't want to reveal their teammate.

Makes me think you're Trainer Red even harder now.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582495]There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.[/QUOTE]
This is a game of discussion and analysis, and you don't get to play such shitty excuses to get a free pass.

You are active lurking and being generally useless when it comes to finding the scum. I'm not going to give you a get out of jail card just because you think you are the lord of WIFOM.

Originally Posted by Clarence

There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.

This is a game of discussion and analysis, and you don't get to play such shitty excuses to get a free pass.

You are active lurking and being generally useless when it comes to finding the scum. I'm not going to give you a get out of jail card just because you think you are the lord of WIFOM.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582491]Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.[/QUOTE]
Ok, let's play. Let's say you and Superduck aren't connected. Even then, all of this remains true:
- You voted us without offering any reasons for doing so, even when asked for them.

- You never pushed us, which means your vote is one of convenience, and not the result of scumhunting (since if the latter was the case, you would've tried to get others to understand what you think you are seeing).

- A day into the game and your only "contribution" is to ask for strategy that only benefits the scum.

So yeah, we can remove Superduck from the equation and all points remain valid.

Originally Posted by Clarence

Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.

Ok, let's play. Let's say you and Superduck aren't connected. Even then, all of this remains true:
- You voted us without offering any reasons for doing so, even when asked for them.

- You never pushed us, which means your vote is one of convenience, and not the result of scumhunting (since if the latter was the case, you would've tried to get others to understand what you think you are seeing).

- A day into the game and your only "contribution" is to ask for strategy that only benefits the scum.

So yeah, we can remove Superduck from the equation and all points remain valid.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582491]Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.[/QUOTE]

And you're avoiding our earlier question.

getting scummier by the minute man.

Originally Posted by Clarence

Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.

And you're avoiding our earlier question.

getting scummier by the minute man.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582485]My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?[/QUOTE]
Can we lynch this? Yeah? Ok, let's lynch this.

Originally Posted by Clarence

My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?

Can we lynch this? Yeah? Ok, let's lynch this.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582485]I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will.[/QUOTE]
Gonna second my partner here. Piss off.
You explain that conveniently timed vote right now, and your reasons for it right now, else you are getting the rope.

Originally Posted by Clarence

I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will.

Gonna second my partner here. Piss off.
You explain that conveniently timed vote right now, and your reasons for it right now, else you are getting the rope.

[QUOTE=Clarence;582485]I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will. My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but that's not gonna fly.

You need to start listing some reads, or get lynched. You're already pegged as a top scum by almost everyone... you have no room to open discussion, especially weak discussion like that.

Originally Posted by Clarence

I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will. My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?

Sorry, but that's not gonna fly.

You need to start listing some reads, or get lynched. You're already pegged as a top scum by almost everyone... you have no room to open discussion, especially weak discussion like that.

Thank you, Cryptonic. And thanks to whoever made our account an archon.

Also, I see you Orpz and Clarence lurking. Wanna say something?
We've got a little over a day left, and half of the players haven't posted any relevant content.

Thank you, Cryptonic. And thanks to whoever made our account an archon.

Also, I see you Orpz and Clarence lurking. Wanna say something?
We've got a little over a day left, and half of the players haven't posted any relevant content.

The original post said something along these lines:

[QUOTE=Fire Viking;582467]Look at last game. When I didn't shotgun leader position and just discussed my reads openly instead of actively pushed a player. I got massively discredited and town lost. I am not letting that shit happen again. Why wouldn't I want to lead?

-Fire[/QUOTE]

I asked because I remember you playing the "I'm Town Leader" card in at last one instance before: Koopolitics and The Cold/Colder War (I'm not entirelly sure about the last one). You were scum in both cases.
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Again, sorry for the edit. Was a mistake.

The original post said something along these lines:

Originally Posted by Fire Viking

Look at last game. When I didn't shotgun leader position and just discussed my reads openly instead of actively pushed a player. I got massively discredited and town lost. I am not letting that shit happen again. Why wouldn't I want to lead?

-Fire

I asked because I remember you playing the "I'm Town Leader" card in at last one instance before: Koopolitics and The Cold/Colder War (I'm not entirelly sure about the last one). You were scum in both cases.

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Again, sorry for the edit. Was a mistake.