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    @Sino get em tiger.
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    Might as well.
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    Honestly, I think hammering is fine.

    Assuming POD is luciano, if the game continues

    The mole will target fatalis or sino.

    Targeting RK will be risky, and I will not be the target.


    Personally I think the game will just end.
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    I guess the question comes down to is does a mole benefit from hoping on a miss lynch today, and winning by killing the luciano tonight, over killing someone last night and forcing a 2v1v1.

    RK as mole would abstain knowing he is never going to be targeted or lynched, and win tonight or in final 3.
    Fatalis would assume sino is the hit, and attack bcd. Lynch pod, and probably yolo rk and hope for a miss lynch on sino.
    Sino should assume he is just dead and try to take out the luciano last night in case they meta, but he will be the target tonight almost for sure, so I am not sure he abstains.
    POD would maybe kill fatalis to stop a lynch the next day as he would appear as the real cop

    The only world I see a mole not attacking last night is in fatalis world. However, in this world he is the lynch in final 3, and it would be sub optimal to a 2v1v1?

    I really don't see a mole being alive at this point, unless sino comes out and says I was attacked last night?

    Feel free to discuss whatever though. POD should be the lynch today.
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    -vote powerofdeath



    I think the kill tells us there is no mole, the luciano would have probably targeted pod/fatalis/sino if there was. BCD was the least likely to be a mole, and if they believed there was one, would they leave them alive? I am not so sure. Either way the world of no doctor is slim, and combining the fact the mafia would have had to pick a doctor as well, I don't believe that.
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    -vote g4slight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    You, caporegime.
    What is the exact world to you then

    Do you think there is a mole?
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    oh whoops lol ignore that.
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    @Unknown1234 what are your thoughts, havent seen you inawhile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    That's the point, we might be at MYLO, so we better be very careful
    If we believe we are on mylo, lynching g4slight is borderline retarded decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    I don't think my playstyle would have changed that much, but i'd probably have healed you and killed BCD last night
    Guess what if you are scum you just successfully pocketed me.

    I don't think moled sino has the idea to meta heal. He would probably be like, "yeah duck I was totally on you", well he would have actually done a heal action, so who knows. Maybe I am wrong though. I have town read sino so hard though as a mole he would want me alive over bcd which makes me think he is a LEGIT DOCTOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Yeah, and that's why she unvote

    We shouldn't put anyone at L-1 so early....
    If you were recruited by voss, how do you think you would have changed your playstyle?

    What would you have tried to do on day 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    There is one thing that Fatalis could say that could make me hange my mind on who to lynch

    Not saying it though, just wait for him

    -unvote
    Oh I am aware of that too ~ laziness though.
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    -vote pod


    i still forget how unvote works
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    -unvote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Hammer now ? What about hearing something from Fatalis ?
    he will say he checked you as capor regardless if you are capor or mole now

    hammer now and ill go play your map
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    @Sino get em sino


    HEAL ME DO NOT FUCKING META IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    If we lynch Sino and are wrong, we have no mislynches left. You die, and we have to pick between POD, gaslight, and Fatalis with no room for error
    Lets assume we dont lynch kovath who fatalis was essentially on board with as town

    g4slight is lynched, mesk dies

    Final 7:
    duck
    banana
    sino
    rk
    fatalis
    pod
    kovath

    We now know kovath is probably town since a mafia lost the 1v1. we lynch pod he flips real cop, sino dies in the night

    Final 5:
    duck
    banana
    fatalis
    kovath
    rk

    fatalis is lynched game over.

    if the world is fatalis/pod fatalis/gaslight fatalis/kovath they all lose
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    w/e banana Ill sheep


    #paranoia

    sino/pod jump on board
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    K we know gaslight is scum

    Mole is Sino or Fatalis. If one exists. The whole idea of lynching Fatalis would be to get a probable mole as I doubt Fatalis is Luciano

    POD is not the mole though. If Fatalis were mole he shouldn't abstain a kill there IMO

    Naw we should still lynch gaslight

    -vote g4slight
    This vote loses in a world where anybody is a mole though.

    lynching sino gives us a 50% chance to win if a mole no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    I don't know G4slight's motivation to role block Kovath 2 nights in a row, best guess is that he's scum consort trying to frame Kovath.

    If the scum team is G4slight + pod, that means we have to accept there's 3 town DD's in the game...
    I dont think fatalis is with g4

    He counterclaims pod, both have accurate checks, both would have had to pick underboss, and we would have 0 town invests, doubtful

    I am willing to lynch sino today g4 tomorrow, pod last day

    banana you on board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    go fuck yourself.
    That was rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Are you suggesting lynching Fatalis, have gaslight roleblock POD, then lynch gaslight next day?
    gaslight will roleblock sino, and kill me, but if he wants to play townie sure roleblock pod.

    If no1 dies in the night/mafia abstains we just kill pod
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Fatalis as FBI still means POD is a likely scum underboss

    Still lynch gaslight and then either POD or Fatalis tomorrow
    lynch g4slight

    mafia kills x
    fatalis kills x

    2v1v1, why is this better than

    lynch fatalis mole or town dies

    3v2 lynch g4slight

    2v1 lynch pod?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    If we mislynch it spells a loss fam
    if theres a mole we lynch the mole or lose majority.

    if theres no mole mislynch =still win

    should we lynch our coperino fatalis then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Sigh.
    fine

    -vote g4slight


    well take the safe approach and guarantee a hit, so boring.
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    Lets think about it.

    What if voss lied about his last will, and he recruited POD but it WAS successful, and the team is actually fatalis/g4slight.

    This means the mole was roleblocked, but would not be tonight.

    By lynching pod, we know g4 will block sino and kill me which sucks but we take 1 losing world out of the picture.

    Just lynch g4 tomorrow, then fatalis if the game is not over.

    Thoughts? or should i revote
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    -vote powerofdeath
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    that was a fast unsign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Shut up a second
    the slip attempt is not going to work.
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    I dont believe so because it would have told him a mole attacked to you, and he does not believe there to be one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Why would he being likely to be recruited n1 = no mole?
    he does not believe there is one, but if there is it is fatalis.

    I wonder if there is a mole, does not attacking benefit them in keeping majority for town?

    If the mole was fatalis and he kills bcd or myself (he would have targeted bcd so your dumb meta heal would have worked)

    it would be 3v2v1.

    The only way a mole abstains is if they would be out of the 3 man lynch order right? Which would be sino bcd rk

    Fuck it I have no idea.

    Do players get feedback on attack/heal?
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    @Quick I see you in the world of nature thread what are your thoughts here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    I want to hear from Fatalis and POD first this time.
    what we want to make an informed decision? What has our town come to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Yes, do you want me to vote right now or should we wait a bit before we hammer ?

    And i'm 100% dying tonight
    yes, and if you die leave in your lastwill who you think a mole could be. That is all that matters. If there is no mole we have three lynches and should win every time, but who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Because they chose to have the tailor confirmed as another role over the underboss

    And about that PoD/Gaslight world

    Both PoD and Gaslight actually confirmed themselves, PoD by knowing Shifty's role and Gaslight by blocking Kovath n2, they both agree about that.

    Now, why in the world would scum chose NOT to get any tailor ?
    You realize we should be discussing if there is a mole and not waste our times with this right? The only way town can lose at this point is to a mole.

    fatalis- could still be a mole
    pod - probably luciano
    bcd - least likely to be a mole, about 1-3%
    sino - has to heal me to tonight, if I die confirms he is a mole, outside of that probably is the least likely to be a mole
    RK - .01% chance to be a mole
    g4slight - probably luciano


    The lynch is going to be g4slight, but in the world where sino is a mole, town just loses

    lynched:g4, night kill x2

    1 luciano 1 mole, 2 town. - we sleep
    rng?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Fatalis guessed G4 because Kovath checked him n1 and told Fatalis about his role
    wouldnt he have had to tell him in the anonymous chat? I am not sure if that would change anything or change voss's lastwill.

    This assumes that our consort actually roleblocked nobody night1

    and that town had 7 good roles/3anti town roles, which is too strong IMO.

    Why doesn't kovath just hammer unknown, get tailored to underboss red and just play out as a cop and if he gets lynched, the other two underboss claims are fucked.
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    Sino now that the roleblocker will be dead for sure, please for the love of god, no meta heals. If you trust bcd more than me have her post who she wants me to vote and I will, but for the sake of confirmed vs a 1% mole, take the confirmed.

    I believe the world is pod/g4slight despite it making little sense from their play.

    I don't think the world is fatalis/kovath because it means they have a tailor that has to be fatalis, and he correctly guessed g4slight was a consort over you. If he was wrong they just lose.

    I still believe, and always have believed kovath was town, I think his flip was accurate. If he was tailored luciano it means town only had 3 negative roles (dd dd tailor) which is op for town.


    The lynch should be g4 then evaluate, most likley going to pod
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    Oh my god when I get to my pic im going to tell you why meta doc last night was bad

    -vote g4slight
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    -vote kovath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    While she's gone, can you answer this, Duck ?
    1v1 vs bcd was two anti town roles when we did not know there were no other anti town role claims.

    Now the 1v1 is because one of them is lieing about roleblock. THERE IS a hit between kovath/g4 which is why im willing to lynch kovath right now despite not wanting to.
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    and she left the threadddddd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Hey guys I have a great idea!! You know that whole banana/Kovath 1v1? Let's lynch shifty to make sure Kovath isn't suited, because Kovath is flipping Luciano Drug Dealer no matter what

    Oh hey guys! Shifty was town! Let's not lynch Kovath though, who I stated is either scum Luciano Drug Dealer, or suited Drug Dealer. I mean sure Shifty was town so Kovath isn't suited as scum but really town, but I am going to flip now and say that Kovath is a town read!!

    - Duck

    Yeah, not playing your games anymore Duck. Lynch Kovath. Not going to spend 48 hours more discussing it.
    vote him right now and i will hammer, you have one chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers View Post
    Hey guys I have a great idea!! You know that whole banana/Kovath 1v1? Let's lynch shifty to make sure Kovath isn't suited, because Kovath is flipping Luciano Drug Dealer no matter what

    Oh hey guys! Shifty was town! Let's not lynch Kovath though, who I stated is either scum Luciano Drug Dealer, or suited Drug Dealer. I mean sure Shifty was town so Kovath isn't suited as scum but really town, but I am going to flip now and say that Kovath is a town read!!

    - Duck

    Yeah, not playing your games anymore Duck. Lynch Kovath. Not going to spend 48 hours more discussing it.
    1) I always read kovath as town
    2) shifty was a scum read
    3) things changed.

    4) we will see.
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    @Sino do you think we are more likely to have 2 cops than to have 3 dd's (negative roles)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    So you honestly use host meta to justify Kovath being town ?

    He's an obvious scum at this point
    I use it to support my town read on him, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Because you are NOT Drug Dealer
    What do you think he is then? Why is banana a drug dealer and not him?
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    Thread:S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

    Thread Author:MattZed

    Post Author:SexyDucK

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    ►►Re: S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II◄◄

    I am leaning towards it being a PoD/G4 world.

    I don't think kovath fakes roleblock and then gets actual roleblocked.

    Sino has been surprisingly less strong today.

    I still believe PoD is the best lynch in every world.

    -vote powerofdeath
  49. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

    Thread Author:MattZed

    Post Author:SexyDucK

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    ►►Re: S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II◄◄

    brifely caught up from my phone, will read now.

    I don't think we lynch kovath or bcd because if one of them was evil it would mean we only have three anti town/useless roles compared to 4 of last game where town steam rolled?

    I am not sure he would allow town get verbatim power roles +1 STPR -1NTPR in a set up where town dominated.


    Regarding the rb claim, I do not believe g4slight anymore that he did not roleblock anyone night1. If he did no night action he gets replaced, if he decided to not roleblock.... why? does not make sense. At the very least he would roleblock me to confirm himself since he knows I don't have a night action to do.
  50. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

    Thread Author:MattZed

    Post Author:SexyDucK

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    ►►Re: S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II◄◄

    I am going to bed now we can both talk more tomorrow.

    I dont think fatalis fakes his check as either alignment. If he is scum he lets kovath get miss lynched because I said I wanted to flip on him since he claimed role blocked with no consort claiming.
    If he is scum with g4slight and faking that he is a consort, that means kovath is town and did not fake being role blocked and you are a consort.

    What do you think about my 4 negative roles vs 4 negative roles.

    If you dont want to answer that because it would involve your claim before you are ready then that is fine.

    We are very likely to have 1 real cop 1 fake cop.

    If we were told we had 1 cop 1 mafia cop, would you say pod is the town cop?


    0-5 on your map btw


    good night.
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