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The roles were hand picked, for that reason alone I have doubts there is 2 Gunsmiths. I'm still behind voting to lynch Scvmurderer or Distorted unless someone can convince me that having 2 Gunsmiths is not retarded. Not to mention make me forget all the scum activities involving these 2.

2x Gunsmith 1x Blacksmith 1x Rigger


That's 4 kills that can potentially happen Night 2. I have a hard time buying it.

The roles were hand picked, for that reason alone I have doubts there is 2 Gunsmiths. I'm still behind voting to lynch Scvmurderer or Distorted unless someone can convince me that having 2 Gunsmiths is not retarded. Not to mention make me forget all the scum activities involving these 2.

2x Gunsmith 1x Blacksmith 1x Rigger


That's 4 kills that can potentially happen Night 2. I have a hard time buying it.

[MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] Please explain your reason why you said you wont shoot Distorted. If I even get a hint of bullshit, I am scum labeling you.

@Magoroth Please explain your reason why you said you wont shoot Distorted. If I even get a hint of bullshit, I am scum labeling you.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;722242]Well, I have some stuff to do, so I will be going away now. I expect that you will have all provided your reads by the time I’m back.[/QUOTE]

My new read now is if SCV flips Town/Distored flips scum, you turn to a massive scum lead because of this post

[QUOTE=Magoroth;722213]If you flip town idfk who to shoot tonight, maybe Noz...[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Well, I have some stuff to do, so I will be going away now. I expect that you will have all provided your reads by the time I’m back.

My new read now is if SCV flips Town/Distored flips scum, you turn to a massive scum lead because of this post

Originally Posted by Magoroth

If you flip town idfk who to shoot tonight, maybe Noz...

[MENTION=28592]Efekannn02[/MENTION] you don't want to shoot either depending on the out come of the lynch

@Efekannn02 you don't want to shoot either depending on the out come of the lynch

If SCV flips town, Efekannn has the Town gun.
If SCV flips scum, Magoroth has the Town gun.

[MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] I highly advise only shooting if SCV flips scum OR Distorted flips Town, depending on who we decide by EoD

If SCV flips town, Efekannn has the Town gun.
If SCV flips scum, Magoroth has the Town gun.

@Magoroth I highly advise only shooting if SCV flips scum OR Distorted flips Town, depending on who we decide by EoD

If SCV flips town, Efekannn has the real gun. You have either received a Mafia gun, fake gun or rigged gun.

If SCV flips town, Efekannn has the real gun. You have either received a Mafia gun, fake gun or rigged gun.

No wait. Don't shoot anybody if SCV flips town.

No wait. Don't shoot anybody if SCV flips town.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;722213]If you flip town idfk who to shoot tonight, maybe Noz...[/QUOTE]

Dude WHAT. YOU SHOOT DISTORTED. Holy shit if this isn't a scum slip I don't know what is. Why the fuck wouldn't you shoot Distorted if SCV flips Town? Do you believe there is 2 Gunsmiths or something?

Originally Posted by Magoroth

If you flip town idfk who to shoot tonight, maybe Noz...

Dude WHAT. YOU SHOOT DISTORTED. Holy shit if this isn't a scum slip I don't know what is. Why the fuck wouldn't you shoot Distorted if SCV flips Town? Do you believe there is 2 Gunsmiths or something?

[QUOTE=Magoroth;722195][MENTION=6868]rumox[/MENTION], what do you think about the number of TPR claims we have atm?[/QUOTE]

Distorted
Scvmurderer
Light_Yagami
Noz_Bugz

If I am not mistaken these are the TPR claims. 4 seems reasonable as it matches Mafia/Rigger. There is a 99% guarantee that Distorted or Scvmurderer is lying, I just don't see 2 Gunsmiths being in the game. This is the first run of this setup and I dare say SuperJack wants a balanced game for its first run. We could argue that 2 Gunsmiths might be balanced, but that just doesn't feel right to me. We can discuss this being a possibility however if you want? But for the time being let's assume there is only 1, that eliminates one of the TPR claims.

Distorted/SCV
Light_Yagami
Noz_Bugz

3 TPR... seems plausible. FM games are usually heavy Citizen weighted. Light_Yagami soft claimed Armorsmith and scum suspects the person he gave it to last night as they have not spoken up about it. I assume it's [MENTION=28998]Hybrid[/MENTION] because of Light's vote. With such limited TPR claims, I read Light_Yagami as Town, my highest Town read currently. This is pure speculation but I think 1x Gunsmith 1x Armorsmith is almost a sure thing for TPR's. He is uncontested as well which solidifies my Town read of him. I don't see TPR sitting quiet and letting scum scoop up all the claims uncontested, unless they have some genius 300+ IQ plan LOL.

As for Noz_Bugz. He was my scum read of Day 1. I parked my vote on him to signify this. His contributions were lazy, unhelpful, incredibly sheepish, and was buddying blindly. His plan for Day 2 is to sit back and "let him do his work". Idk how I feel about that. If the TPR he claims is legit, it could be beneficial. But to sit back so carelessly does not sit well for me. We cannot rely solely on night actions.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

@rumox , what do you think about the number of TPR claims we have atm?

Distorted
Scvmurderer
Light_Yagami
Noz_Bugz

If I am not mistaken these are the TPR claims. 4 seems reasonable as it matches Mafia/Rigger. There is a 99% guarantee that Distorted or Scvmurderer is lying, I just don't see 2 Gunsmiths being in the game. This is the first run of this setup and I dare say SuperJack wants a balanced game for its first run. We could argue that 2 Gunsmiths might be balanced, but that just doesn't feel right to me. We can discuss this being a possibility however if you want? But for the time being let's assume there is only 1, that eliminates one of the TPR claims.

Distorted/SCV
Light_Yagami
Noz_Bugz

3 TPR... seems plausible. FM games are usually heavy Citizen weighted. Light_Yagami soft claimed Armorsmith and scum suspects the person he gave it to last night as they have not spoken up about it. I assume it's @Hybrid because of Light's vote. With such limited TPR claims, I read Light_Yagami as Town, my highest Town read currently. This is pure speculation but I think 1x Gunsmith 1x Armorsmith is almost a sure thing for TPR's. He is uncontested as well which solidifies my Town read of him. I don't see TPR sitting quiet and letting scum scoop up all the claims uncontested, unless they have some genius 300+ IQ plan LOL.

As for Noz_Bugz. He was my scum read of Day 1. I parked my vote on him to signify this. His contributions were lazy, unhelpful, incredibly sheepish, and was buddying blindly. His plan for Day 2 is to sit back and "let him do his work". Idk how I feel about that. If the TPR he claims is legit, it could be beneficial. But to sit back so carelessly does not sit well for me. We cannot rely solely on night actions.

Town has at most 4 TPR for balance reasons I think. If Light is indeed claiming Armorsmith (only other town role that can "send a package") I have him has my highest Town read unless he is counter claimed. Like Distorted has said, SuperJack would probably want a healthy mix of roles in the game for testing purposes. I think 1x Gunsmith 1x Armoursmith are a guarantee.

Town has at most 4 TPR for balance reasons I think. If Light is indeed claiming Armorsmith (only other town role that can "send a package") I have him has my highest Town read unless he is counter claimed. Like Distorted has said, SuperJack would probably want a healthy mix of roles in the game for testing purposes. I think 1x Gunsmith 1x Armoursmith are a guarantee.

[QUOTE=Fielzanks;722101]By the way, we went pretty fast into a lot of claims.[/QUOTE]

I was just gunna post about retouching on them.

Distorted: Gunsmith
SCV: Gunsmith
Blinkskater: Citizen
Light_Yagami: Armorsmith (?)
Noz_Bugz: Authenticator (?)
Naztallah: TPR (?)


? = soft claims. Was there any others?

Originally Posted by Fielzanks

By the way, we went pretty fast into a lot of claims.

I was just gunna post about retouching on them.

Distorted: Gunsmith
SCV: Gunsmith
Blinkskater: Citizen
Light_Yagami: Armorsmith (?)
Noz_Bugz: Authenticator (?)
Naztallah: TPR (?)


? = soft claims. Was there any others?

[MENTION=30619]Light_Yagami[/MENTION] like I said, I am in no rush. More than half of the players are AFK. I'm not going to run around in circles.

@Light_Yagami like I said, I am in no rush. More than half of the players are AFK. I'm not going to run around in circles.

[QUOTE=Light_Yagami;722091][B]Rumox[/B] Is Being Unusually Quite..[/QUOTE]

:chickenwings:

Originally Posted by Light_Yagami

Rumox Is Being Unusually Quite..

I understand what Fielz is saying. There is underlying issues to be looked at beyond scv/distorted. That thesis post I can give +9999 Town points OR +9999 scum points. I'm still digesting everything, and waiting for others to come online. There is absolutely no reason to turbo lynch

I understand what Fielz is saying. There is underlying issues to be looked at beyond scv/distorted. That thesis post I can give +9999 Town points OR +9999 scum points. I'm still digesting everything, and waiting for others to come online. There is absolutely no reason to turbo lynch

[QUOTE=Distorted;722062][MENTION=10051]Fielzanks[/MENTION] it doesnt concern u at all that after all the talk on where to give guns, [COLOR="#FF0000"]scv decided to give it to efekannn[/COLOR]? i mean u dont mention that.[/QUOTE]

This. He's straight up a fucking mad man and it makes no logical sense. This is not a pro Town move.

Originally Posted by Distorted

@Fielzanks it doesnt concern u at all that after all the talk on where to give guns, scv decided to give it to efekannn? i mean u dont mention that.

This. He's straight up a fucking mad man and it makes no logical sense. This is not a pro Town move.

When someone that is being "buddied" by someone that is the center of discussion and votes in favour of that person without explaining why my scum alert rings. Distorted could be Rigger/Blacksmith claiming the Gunsmith role. Explain your vote

When someone that is being "buddied" by someone that is the center of discussion and votes in favour of that person without explaining why my scum alert rings. Distorted could be Rigger/Blacksmith claiming the Gunsmith role. Explain your vote

[MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] You are creeping up my scum list the longer you delay posting your reason why you voted

@Magoroth You are creeping up my scum list the longer you delay posting your reason why you voted

[QUOTE=Distorted;722013][COLOR="#FF0000"]Scvmurderer (3 [L-4]): [/COLOR]
Distorted, Marshmallow Marshall, Magoroth

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Distorted (1 [L-6]): [/COLOR]
Scvmurderer

Wiat I think blink voted SCV as well? did i miss a cancel or was it a fake vote? lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=blinkskater;721850][vote]scv murderer[/vote] GG[/QUOTE]

It was a fake or mistyped

Originally Posted by Distorted

Scvmurderer (3 [L-4]):
Distorted, Marshmallow Marshall, Magoroth

Distorted (1 [L-6]):
Scvmurderer

Wiat I think blink voted SCV as well? did i miss a cancel or was it a fake vote? lol

Originally Posted by blinkskater

-vote scv murderer

GG

It was a fake or mistyped

[MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] you are implicated in whats going on so this vote dump and run is incredibly scummy to me

@Magoroth you are implicated in whats going on so this vote dump and run is incredibly scummy to me

[QUOTE=Magoroth;722007][vote] Scvmurderer [/vote][/QUOTE]

Dude explain the vote please there is no way you can be this confident

Originally Posted by Magoroth

-vote Scvmurderer

Dude explain the vote please there is no way you can be this confident

[QUOTE=Distorted;722000]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Blink next after he pops up scum[/COLOR]
He knew that hybrid would pop town, so that would make blink look good.
[/QUOTE]

This is very interesting

Originally Posted by Distorted

Blink next after he pops up scum
He knew that hybrid would pop town, so that would make blink look good.

This is very interesting

Kappa

THIEF THIEF THIEF DISTORTED SCUM SLIPPED HE IS THIEF

THIEF THIEF THIEF DISTORTED SCUM SLIPPED HE IS THIEF

Is this gunna be the mic drop of the century?

Is this gunna be the mic drop of the century?

[QUOTE=Distorted;721991][MENTION=10051]Fielzanks[/MENTION] dude who are u in the mod? literally pro here for your first game lol....kinda creepy...feel like u know us very well........................ but your still my top town read.


Comfortable reads:
Town does not mean they cannot be Rigger - These reads are strictly for Mafia.

Fielzanks - town
Noz - town (due to being scapegoated by SCV, blink, and MM)
Magoroth - town (i trusted to give a gun to him.)
Rumox - town

MM/Blink 1 scum 1 town
SCV - scum

I am going to go look at who pushed hybrid. Because I know blink stood up for hybrid with me I want to see if SCV was voting hybrid or not as well.[/QUOTE]

I'm almost certain SCV was pushing for Hybrid lynch without even going back to check.

Originally Posted by Distorted

@Fielzanks dude who are u in the mod? literally pro here for your first game lol....kinda creepy...feel like u know us very well........................ but your still my top town read.


Comfortable reads:
Town does not mean they cannot be Rigger - These reads are strictly for Mafia.

Fielzanks - town
Noz - town (due to being scapegoated by SCV, blink, and MM)
Magoroth - town (i trusted to give a gun to him.)
Rumox - town

MM/Blink 1 scum 1 town
SCV - scum

I am going to go look at who pushed hybrid. Because I know blink stood up for hybrid with me I want to see if SCV was voting hybrid or not as well.

I'm almost certain SCV was pushing for Hybrid lynch without even going back to check.

[QUOTE=blinkskater;720961]Aite im done with you ive also explained why i thought efe was rigger a few times now if you choose to overlook things is post thats on you and no i will not use periods the only one crying about it seems to be you waaaaaah im town, waaaaaaaaaaah blink is acting scummy, blink isnt using periods, blink doesnt explain things BULLSHIT allready im voting and and keeping my vote on you, untill EoD [vote]Marluxion[/vote] you are NOT helping the town at all with your so called scumhunting.[/QUOTE]

Okay so this is it. It actually doesn't even look that bad. In hindsight I think Blink genuinely got frustrated with the guy. If anyone else can find Blink pushing Marl lynch that would be SUPER.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

Aite im done with you ive also explained why i thought efe was rigger a few times now if you choose to overlook things is post thats on you and no i will not use periods the only one crying about it seems to be you waaaaaah im town, waaaaaaaaaaah blink is acting scummy, blink isnt using periods, blink doesnt explain things BULLSHIT allready im voting and and keeping my vote on you, untill EoD

-vote Marluxion

you are NOT helping the town at all with your so called scumhunting.

Okay so this is it. It actually doesn't even look that bad. In hindsight I think Blink genuinely got frustrated with the guy. If anyone else can find Blink pushing Marl lynch that would be SUPER.

I'm trying to find the post

I'm trying to find the post

Just got back from da shops 8)

Naz is right, Blink did what a Marl lynch before anyone else did.

Just got back from da shops

Naz is right, Blink did what a Marl lynch before anyone else did.

I feel like I am sitting in a waiting room with a murderer, twiddling my thumbs

I feel like I am sitting in a waiting room with a murderer, twiddling my thumbs

ResidentSleeper

[MENTION=28400]blinkskater[/MENTION] @Scvmurder you guys CANNOT go silent for too long.

@blinkskater @Scvmurder you guys CANNOT go silent for too long.

Oh is Blink asleep?

Oh is Blink asleep?

[QUOTE=Distorted;721932]because we needed a day 1 lynch - and no1 else was going to happen. blink promised he had good info as well on maryls flip, and i had blink heavily town read so i trusted him on that.[/QUOTE]

I remember this without having to look back actually. [MENTION=28400]blinkskater[/MENTION] what info did you get from the Marl lynch.

Originally Posted by Distorted

because we needed a day 1 lynch - and no1 else was going to happen. blink promised he had good info as well on maryls flip, and i had blink heavily town read so i trusted him on that.

I remember this without having to look back actually. @blinkskater what info did you get from the Marl lynch.

[MENTION=10220]Distorted[/MENTION]

Do you think Weaponsmith is the most important proactive role for Town?

@Distorted

Do you think Weaponsmith is the most important proactive role for Town?

What a fucking mess of an EoD.

I am 99% certain SuperJack would only put in one Weaponsmith so my opinion is it's either [MENTION=10220]Distorted[/MENTION] or [MENTION=29766]Scvmurderer[/MENTION] that goes today, unless we can discuss a better target. I am taking my sweet ass time making my decision because cause like I said, I believe we only have one Weaponsmith and its probably the most important proactive Town role. With the lynch yesterday, we are probably looking at going down to 6 Town tonight as I believe the Rigger and Mafia have passed a gun to themselves. Make that 5 if we mislynch again.


[MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] [MENTION=28592]Efekannn02[/MENTION]

What a fucking mess of an EoD.

I am 99% certain SuperJack would only put in one Weaponsmith so my opinion is it's either @Distorted or @Scvmurderer that goes today, unless we can discuss a better target. I am taking my sweet ass time making my decision because cause like I said, I believe we only have one Weaponsmith and its probably the most important proactive Town role. With the lynch yesterday, we are probably looking at going down to 6 Town tonight as I believe the Rigger and Mafia have passed a gun to themselves. Make that 5 if we mislynch again.


@Magoroth @Efekannn02

[VOTE]Noz_Bugz[/VOTE]

-vote Noz_Bugz

Ok so 7 hours until EoD. I'm heading to bed so parking my vote on Noz as he is the least engaging person in my scum list.

[MENTION=8508]SuperJack[/MENTION] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Sheeps vote is still being registered on MM.[/COLOR]


[VOTE]Noz_Bugs[/VOTE]

Ok so 7 hours until EoD. I'm heading to bed so parking my vote on Noz as he is the least engaging person in my scum list.

@SuperJack Sheeps vote is still being registered on MM.

-vote Noz_Bugs

By the way guys, my previous post was the 1111 post in this thread. This is an awesome Day 1. Few slackers but all in all, this is great.

By the way guys, my previous post was the 1111 post in this thread. This is an awesome Day 1. Few slackers but all in all, this is great.

[QUOTE=Magoroth]+50 for bringing the threat the Agent poses to my attention[/QUOTE]

Pssst hey Magoroth, if we write our gifted items in our last will and we die, the grave robber will visit them and take them. That will be +50 Town points please

Kappa

Originally Posted by Magoroth

+50 for bringing the threat the Agent poses to my attention

Pssst hey Magoroth, if we write our gifted items in our last will and we die, the grave robber will visit them and take them. That will be +50 Town points please

[QUOTE=Fielzanks;720953]I have explained my point of view of Blink in my read-post : Even though I stopped scumhunting him, it is exactly because he started pushing and pressuring me who were viewed by most to be town : if I was a mafia trying to gain town status I was on the right track, and Blink did well to challenge me to see that I wasn't. Plus the fact that I was painted hard a "town town town" by other players when he was pressuring me because of that fact. My vision is now on the people in my scummy list, but I'm not oblivious to the others.

I'm also advocating against claiming items in the open to avoid [COLOR="#FF0000"]Mafia[/COLOR] from easy targeting - an agent would wreck us HARD. With good LWs we can avoid that claiming while still playing correctly. As if I would use an item - You can't know it. I said I was against it myself to not be a big target for Rigger / Mafia specifically. Doesnt mean I would not use a gun. If you want to put me at risk, do so. I just don't like it lol.

As for Efekann, I am waiting on his read list to push it further on my own. He said he'd do it so I'm basically waiting for him.

I don't want a gun to be given to Marluxion because I do not think he is honest at all in his posts, so he may be a mafia under cover.[/QUOTE]

What? How did Blink see that you aren't scum? Because you backed off? That is exactly what most scums do. They get scared their "image" is getting dirtied so they stop. You didn't stop, you outright flipped him from scum to one of your top rated Town reads.

You're right I can't know what you are going to do with an item. But saying for others to yolo use items while you said you aren't going to... not a fan of this at all. Still early days but this gesture to entice other players to yolo items is not pro town to me.

Originally Posted by Fielzanks

I have explained my point of view of Blink in my read-post : Even though I stopped scumhunting him, it is exactly because he started pushing and pressuring me who were viewed by most to be town : if I was a mafia trying to gain town status I was on the right track, and Blink did well to challenge me to see that I wasn't. Plus the fact that I was painted hard a "town town town" by other players when he was pressuring me because of that fact. My vision is now on the people in my scummy list, but I'm not oblivious to the others.

I'm also advocating against claiming items in the open to avoid Mafia from easy targeting - an agent would wreck us HARD. With good LWs we can avoid that claiming while still playing correctly. As if I would use an item - You can't know it. I said I was against it myself to not be a big target for Rigger / Mafia specifically. Doesnt mean I would not use a gun. If you want to put me at risk, do so. I just don't like it lol.

As for Efekann, I am waiting on his read list to push it further on my own. He said he'd do it so I'm basically waiting for him.

I don't want a gun to be given to Marluxion because I do not think he is honest at all in his posts, so he may be a mafia under cover.

What? How did Blink see that you aren't scum? Because you backed off? That is exactly what most scums do. They get scared their "image" is getting dirtied so they stop. You didn't stop, you outright flipped him from scum to one of your top rated Town reads.

You're right I can't know what you are going to do with an item. But saying for others to yolo use items while you said you aren't going to... not a fan of this at all. Still early days but this gesture to entice other players to yolo items is not pro town to me.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;720925]I don't see naz and MM as a scum team- sheep said that MM was likely town, after MM had accused him.

If I were scum, and a teammate accused me, I would accuse them back. I'd be more reticent of accusing a town player who voted me.[/QUOTE]

Something I learned from my last FM is that don't exclude any possibility. It's why I am trying to be thorough this one. AYYY [MENTION=28400]blinkskater[/MENTION]

Originally Posted by Magoroth

I don't see naz and MM as a scum team- sheep said that MM was likely town, after MM had accused him.

If I were scum, and a teammate accused me, I would accuse them back. I'd be more reticent of accusing a town player who voted me.

Something I learned from my last FM is that don't exclude any possibility. It's why I am trying to be thorough this one. AYYY @blinkskater

[QUOTE=Hybrid;720911]And 1 more thing. I want to have a night protection on me. I ll use it no matter what. I dont think rigger woulda give me sth to me.[/QUOTE]

I think this is ok. Hybrid is scum read by quite a few people. If he picks up his game starting Day 2 this could be beneficial

Originally Posted by Hybrid

And 1 more thing. I want to have a night protection on me. I ll use it no matter what. I dont think rigger woulda give me sth to me.

I think this is ok. Hybrid is scum read by quite a few people. If he picks up his game starting Day 2 this could be beneficial

I think that was a troll post but I will let MM defend that one

I think that was a troll post but I will let MM defend that one

[QUOTE=Magoroth;720916]Where the fuck did this guy get the idea that Scum have no means of killing someone at night? +++scum points to sheep/naz[/QUOTE]

My only guess is its a scum slip of not having a Blacksmith OR he misinterpreted the mechanics...

Mechanics
[B]Mafia have no factional kill[/B]

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Where the fuck did this guy get the idea that Scum have no means of killing someone at night? +++scum points to sheep/naz

My only guess is its a scum slip of not having a Blacksmith OR he misinterpreted the mechanics...

Mechanics
Mafia have no factional kill

MM was the topic of my next write up but to stay relevant I'll just keep it simple.

During my pressure of Distorted regarding Sheep, MM was in the same boat as Distorted regarding driving the pressure. This isn't average pressure these guys were doing. It was straight up you ARE scum. I still painted Distorted as the driving force but MM was just as much in it as him. NOW, the suspect thing... when I clarified my reasoning of pressuring Distorted MM seemed to have forgotten his participation was almost as equal as Distorted in the HARD pressure. Yet he was quick to turn on Distorted and scum label him for essentially doing the same thing. Again they both were justified in their actions. But when a train is forming or potentially forming, the driving force must be looked at as well.

:sheep: ?

MM was the topic of my next write up but to stay relevant I'll just keep it simple.

During my pressure of Distorted regarding Sheep, MM was in the same boat as Distorted regarding driving the pressure. This isn't average pressure these guys were doing. It was straight up you ARE scum. I still painted Distorted as the driving force but MM was just as much in it as him. NOW, the suspect thing... when I clarified my reasoning of pressuring Distorted MM seemed to have forgotten his participation was almost as equal as Distorted in the HARD pressure. Yet he was quick to turn on Distorted and scum label him for essentially doing the same thing. Again they both were justified in their actions. But when a train is forming or potentially forming, the driving force must be looked at as well.

?

Dual wielder makes sense with his dual personality gimmick he is doing. Would he be that obvious tho? This is what I mean about Efe just being WIFOM currently lol. I have a theory to figure it out possibly, but it needs to go Day 2.

Dual wielder makes sense with his dual personality gimmick he is doing. Would he be that obvious tho? This is what I mean about Efe just being WIFOM currently lol. I have a theory to figure it out possibly, but it needs to go Day 2.

With EoD probably happening while I am asleep I'd like to state my opinion regarding item giving.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]No guns to[/COLOR]: Naz, Efekannn, Noz_Bugz (Naz: Sheep's slot, Efekannn: Wildcard, Noz_Bugz: Out of everyone, he is my most scum vibe currently)

[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Armour vest[/COLOR]: Fielzanks (I feel like its in our best interest to keep him alive)

[COLOR="#00FF00"]Gun to[/COLOR]: Use your discretion Gunsmith. If you choose wrong, we may be looking at a double kill Night 2.

With EoD probably happening while I am asleep I'd like to state my opinion regarding item giving.

No guns to: Naz, Efekannn, Noz_Bugz (Naz: Sheep's slot, Efekannn: Wildcard, Noz_Bugz: Out of everyone, he is my most scum vibe currently)

Armour vest: Fielzanks (I feel like its in our best interest to keep him alive)

Gun to: Use your discretion Gunsmith. If you choose wrong, we may be looking at a double kill Night 2.

Yeah if anyone can read Efekannn right now it's either Blink or Distorted. What do you guys think of him?

Yeah if anyone can read Efekannn right now it's either Blink or Distorted. What do you guys think of him?

[B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Distorted[/COLOR][/B]

Distorted has a very clean posting history. Nothing exciting besides my interaction with him, and his interactions with Blinkskater. The rest is mostly just discussing game mechanics and town strategies.

He has an evolving opinion on the weapons, which I see as pro Town. It's a situation that has so many variables, no one should feel content with how to deal with them.

Distorted did subtly try to buddy with Fielz, whether it was an intentional buddy or just trying to help a new person out is yet to be determined. He goes on to give Fielz town cred due to him thinking of scum strategies. Not something I personally would do, scum can easily rattle off strategies because they [B]are[/B] scum. Not the worst reason to Town cred someone tho.

He is a fan of giving a gun out Night 1 as long as it is not Efekannn that gets it. 100% understandable. He heavily suggests Blinkskater is given the gun, more on this later.

His idea on holding a vote on who should be shot worries me. It's just another variable that can be manipulated. I'm pretty sure he decided against doing this after all, can't remember.

I like that he points out pressuring Efekannn Day 1 is useless. As with Hybrid, a lynch on Efekannn Day 1 would not give us any leads. If either flip Mafia, we could look at non voters I guess. Not a fan of lynching either of these guys personally right now.

His pressure on Blink regarding the pressure on low posters being more beneficial than high posters is correct. Blink would rather have let silent people go under the radar and possibly lynch a contributing Town player. Both had solid reasoning but I give Distorted cred for pushing this discussion. After the other FM I played, lurkers NEED to be pushed.

He also advocates for a Day 1 lynch to prevent items from flowing. This I understand, but the chances of it helping are so slim we would have to have an incredibly strong scum read on someone. Who is the closest we got, Sheep? He was replaced with Naztallah. Are we still feeling right about our scum read on Sheeps slot? I'm not for a Day 1 lynch on a subbed player slot.

His scum reads as I am aware are: rumox, scv, efe, noz.

[MENTION=10220]Distorted[/MENTION] If you were to lynch someone Day 1, I'm assuming it's one of these 4. We both agree Efekannn isn't probably happening right? Care to share?

Also, I noticed Sheep/Naz wasn't on that list. Can you elaborate why? I think its obvious but I would like to hear it from you.

I don't like that he thinks he wasn't pushing Sheep for a lynch when he was sitting at 3 or 4 votes at the time and he was scum hunting him the hardest, regardless of the fact that I shared the same opinion. The fact that he stood his ground and started reverse scum hunting me is what gives me the biggest Town vibes from him however. This is something Fielzanks didn't do in the same kind of situation. He has patchy interactions with Blinkskater and I'm not sure how I feel about it. He stated himself he has mixed feelings on Blink but wants him to be given a gun. I will be really interested in finding out if Blink gets more than 1 item tonight.

All in all, pretty neutral feeling. Swings both ways for me. Looking forward to seeing what he has to say as the game progresses.

Distorted

Distorted has a very clean posting history. Nothing exciting besides my interaction with him, and his interactions with Blinkskater. The rest is mostly just discussing game mechanics and town strategies.

He has an evolving opinion on the weapons, which I see as pro Town. It's a situation that has so many variables, no one should feel content with how to deal with them.

Distorted did subtly try to buddy with Fielz, whether it was an intentional buddy or just trying to help a new person out is yet to be determined. He goes on to give Fielz town cred due to him thinking of scum strategies. Not something I personally would do, scum can easily rattle off strategies because they are scum. Not the worst reason to Town cred someone tho.

He is a fan of giving a gun out Night 1 as long as it is not Efekannn that gets it. 100% understandable. He heavily suggests Blinkskater is given the gun, more on this later.

His idea on holding a vote on who should be shot worries me. It's just another variable that can be manipulated. I'm pretty sure he decided against doing this after all, can't remember.

I like that he points out pressuring Efekannn Day 1 is useless. As with Hybrid, a lynch on Efekannn Day 1 would not give us any leads. If either flip Mafia, we could look at non voters I guess. Not a fan of lynching either of these guys personally right now.

His pressure on Blink regarding the pressure on low posters being more beneficial than high posters is correct. Blink would rather have let silent people go under the radar and possibly lynch a contributing Town player. Both had solid reasoning but I give Distorted cred for pushing this discussion. After the other FM I played, lurkers NEED to be pushed.

He also advocates for a Day 1 lynch to prevent items from flowing. This I understand, but the chances of it helping are so slim we would have to have an incredibly strong scum read on someone. Who is the closest we got, Sheep? He was replaced with Naztallah. Are we still feeling right about our scum read on Sheeps slot? I'm not for a Day 1 lynch on a subbed player slot.

His scum reads as I am aware are: rumox, scv, efe, noz.

@Distorted If you were to lynch someone Day 1, I'm assuming it's one of these 4. We both agree Efekannn isn't probably happening right? Care to share?

Also, I noticed Sheep/Naz wasn't on that list. Can you elaborate why? I think its obvious but I would like to hear it from you.

I don't like that he thinks he wasn't pushing Sheep for a lynch when he was sitting at 3 or 4 votes at the time and he was scum hunting him the hardest, regardless of the fact that I shared the same opinion. The fact that he stood his ground and started reverse scum hunting me is what gives me the biggest Town vibes from him however. This is something Fielzanks didn't do in the same kind of situation. He has patchy interactions with Blinkskater and I'm not sure how I feel about it. He stated himself he has mixed feelings on Blink but wants him to be given a gun. I will be really interested in finding out if Blink gets more than 1 item tonight.

All in all, pretty neutral feeling. Swings both ways for me. Looking forward to seeing what he has to say as the game progresses.

I was going to do people by the player list, but I'm scrapping that and gunna start doing people of interest now

I was going to do people by the player list, but I'm scrapping that and gunna start doing people of interest now

[B][COLOR="#FFA500"]Fielzanks[/COLOR][/B]

After reviewing all of his posts, I have conflicting thoughts of him. He flip flops on important interactions. For example, he scum hunts Blinkskater then immediately backs off when Blinkskater scum hunts him back. This is not what I would expect from the self proclaimed most Town read player. Town should be confident in their scum hunting, backing off immediately because of reverse pressure makes me think you want to protect your image at all costs.

Your yolo attitude for using gifted items is questionable to me. With the chances of the item being from scum is basically 2/3, the odds are not in the favour of the user. Mafia will NEVER use an item given to them because they know where the real weapons are going to come from. You are advocating Town to risk suicide, no beuno from me. You also expressed reluctance to be given a gun, so this also ties into what I just went over. You want others to risk suicide but not yourself. Fair, self preservation. I don't like how it's laid out tho.

Your pressure on Hybrid is understandable due to his troll posts, but what about Efekannn? He is essentially doing the same thing. I give you Town rep for stating a lynch on Hybrid reveals nothing. You are 100% correct.

I also give you Town rep for your scum labeling of Noz_Bugz. Noz did blindly trusted you very strongly and you caught onto it very quickly. I painted you as a guy that might be a target for buddying but your skepticism of Noz proved me wrong.



I have a question for you. You don't want a gun given to Light, Marluxion, naz or Hybrid. Can you elaborate on why Marluxion shouldn't?

Fielzanks

After reviewing all of his posts, I have conflicting thoughts of him. He flip flops on important interactions. For example, he scum hunts Blinkskater then immediately backs off when Blinkskater scum hunts him back. This is not what I would expect from the self proclaimed most Town read player. Town should be confident in their scum hunting, backing off immediately because of reverse pressure makes me think you want to protect your image at all costs.

Your yolo attitude for using gifted items is questionable to me. With the chances of the item being from scum is basically 2/3, the odds are not in the favour of the user. Mafia will NEVER use an item given to them because they know where the real weapons are going to come from. You are advocating Town to risk suicide, no beuno from me. You also expressed reluctance to be given a gun, so this also ties into what I just went over. You want others to risk suicide but not yourself. Fair, self preservation. I don't like how it's laid out tho.

Your pressure on Hybrid is understandable due to his troll posts, but what about Efekannn? He is essentially doing the same thing. I give you Town rep for stating a lynch on Hybrid reveals nothing. You are 100% correct.

I also give you Town rep for your scum labeling of Noz_Bugz. Noz did blindly trusted you very strongly and you caught onto it very quickly. I painted you as a guy that might be a target for buddying but your skepticism of Noz proved me wrong.



I have a question for you. You don't want a gun given to Light, Marluxion, naz or Hybrid. Can you elaborate on why Marluxion shouldn't?