October 18th, 2016, 02:10 AM
Hurray for being difficult.
Sorry guys, lol :p. 'ppreciate the effort.
Hurray for being difficult.
Sorry guys, lol . 'ppreciate the effort.
September 29th, 2016, 01:23 PM
Account Name: Mentar
Account ID: 1-S2-1-4213632
Your Realm:
Approximate Points: Over 20,000
There are old replays of mine attached to my threads in the reports section. The most recent one i could see in the publicly viewable part of it is this one: [url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/30326-Shinkiro-1-S2-1-4150776[/url]
If only i could get all the achievements back too :(
Account Name: Mentar
Account ID: 1-S2-1-4213632
Your Realm:
Approximate Points: Over 20,000
There are old replays of mine attached to my threads in the reports section. The most recent one i could see in the publicly viewable part of it is this one: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...1-S2-1-4150776
If only i could get all the achievements back too
April 29th, 2015, 07:19 PM
[QUOTE=Cryptonic;479062]1000 lightyears from now,[/QUOTE]
A million nerds are grinding their teeth :p.
Originally Posted by
Cryptonic
1000 lightyears from now,
A million nerds are grinding their teeth .
April 29th, 2015, 07:15 PM
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super jack.
you're welcome
super jack.
you're welcome
April 29th, 2015, 03:44 AM
[QUOTE=MasterNinja;478954]have you tested?[/QUOTE]
every time the witch has found a vigilante. same goes for jailing.
Originally Posted by
MasterNinja
have you tested?
every time the witch has found a vigilante. same goes for jailing.
April 29th, 2015, 02:54 AM
[QUOTE=MasterNinja;478951]If i control a victim to target someone, but my victim is role blocked. will he be roleblocked or will witch override it?[/QUOTE]
he will be roleblocked take no action.
Originally Posted by
MasterNinja
If i control a victim to target someone, but my victim is role blocked. will he be roleblocked or will witch override it?
he will be roleblocked take no action.
April 29th, 2015, 12:18 AM
[QUOTE=Mentar;478938]
The only way that should be possible is if that enforcer was an informant, and became enforcer after killing. but that doesnt make sense when dh is still alive and obviously kill capable.[/QUOTE]
Called it.
10 - callou, starts the game as an informant.
Night 1
- 10 (informant) attacks 9 and steals his identity.
- 13 (auditor) targets 10 and turns him into an enforcer.
No bug here folks
[QUOTE=MasterNinja;478930]unknown role without maf/triad doing it?[/QUOTE]
c'mon man, you were on triad team (as per your screenshot), you knew full well you had an informant and he killed.
Originally Posted by
Mentar
The only way that should be possible is if that enforcer was an informant, and became enforcer after killing. but that doesnt make sense when dh is still alive and obviously kill capable.
Called it.
10 - callou, starts the game as an informant.
Night 1
- 10 (informant) attacks 9 and steals his identity.
- 13 (auditor) targets 10 and turns him into an enforcer.
No bug here folks
Originally Posted by
MasterNinja
unknown role without maf/triad doing it?
c'mon man, you were on triad team (as per your screenshot), you knew full well you had an informant and he killed.
April 29th, 2015, 12:08 AM
another question is why was there 2 "riddled with bullets" kills on the same night.
The only way that should be possible is if that enforcer was an informant, and became enforcer after killing. but that doesnt make sense when dh is still alive and obviously kill capable.
another question is why was there 2 "riddled with bullets" kills on the same night.
The only way that should be possible is if that enforcer was an informant, and became enforcer after killing. but that doesnt make sense when dh is still alive and obviously kill capable.
April 28th, 2015, 09:53 PM
:(
Now who's going to fix it when i name myself five in yellow text and dont get #5 etc :p
Now who's going to fix it when i name myself five in yellow text and dont get #5 etc
April 28th, 2015, 09:39 PM
Spy's can be pretty powerful tho. But you need someone that's collecting roles/lw's (mayor etc) to make full use of it.
A spy can give you a lw like:
N1 - Attack 15, visit 3 and 5, N2 - attack 7, visit 2 and 6, N3 - attack 6, visit 1 and 13.
Then a detective claim gives you the lw:
N1 - 3 to 7, N2 - 2 to 15, N3 - 13 to 4.
What are the odds that the 'detective' just coincidentally visited the exact same people the mafia were visiting each night, vs being an agent :).
if i've got a spy claim, i ALWAYS ask them for a proper lw of who mafia visited each night, and compare it to any lw's given by someone claiming a role that has a mafia variant (escort etc).
another classic spy lead is "mafia attacked 7, but hes alive and he didn't claim healed".
The role has plenty of usefulness. it's just that it requires a bit of thought on the part of the player to work it out, as opposed to invest roles that give you usable information straight up. i really dont like giving it an ability that would allow spys to confirm themselves as town easily,
literally anyone could just go "i just pmed 7, what did i say", "ok your confirmed".
atm you 'confirm' spys by how co-operative they are and the usefulness of their information. Good spys are useful and productive, bad ones arn't. And it's a role that mafia can fake, honestly we need more roles like that, not less.
Spy's can be pretty powerful tho. But you need someone that's collecting roles/lw's (mayor etc) to make full use of it.
A spy can give you a lw like:
N1 - Attack 15, visit 3 and 5, N2 - attack 7, visit 2 and 6, N3 - attack 6, visit 1 and 13.
Then a detective claim gives you the lw:
N1 - 3 to 7, N2 - 2 to 15, N3 - 13 to 4.
What are the odds that the 'detective' just coincidentally visited the exact same people the mafia were visiting each night, vs being an agent .
if i've got a spy claim, i ALWAYS ask them for a proper lw of who mafia visited each night, and compare it to any lw's given by someone claiming a role that has a mafia variant (escort etc).
another classic spy lead is "mafia attacked 7, but hes alive and he didn't claim healed".
The role has plenty of usefulness. it's just that it requires a bit of thought on the part of the player to work it out, as opposed to invest roles that give you usable information straight up. i really dont like giving it an ability that would allow spys to confirm themselves as town easily,
literally anyone could just go "i just pmed 7, what did i say", "ok your confirmed".
atm you 'confirm' spys by how co-operative they are and the usefulness of their information. Good spys are useful and productive, bad ones arn't. And it's a role that mafia can fake, honestly we need more roles like that, not less.
April 28th, 2015, 09:25 PM
marshall is fine. as slaol said it's pretty balanced in that it depends on the ability of the player behind the screen to interpret the information hes gettting. But it depends on the other players too, other town has to pm him and give him accurate clear information.
At least half of the "bad" marshalls i've seen didn't lynch wrong because they screwed up, they followed the information they were given and lynched with decent logic behind their decisions, they only lynched wrong because townies either didn't claim roles or gave unclear information.
Ironically it's often the same townies who gave the wrong information / didn't roleclaim which resulted in the incorrect lynches who are the 1st to start bitching about them "fail marshall/mayor!, WTF shit marshall!". "fucking noob, whyd you lynch me (after refusing to roleclaim)"
marshall is fine. as slaol said it's pretty balanced in that it depends on the ability of the player behind the screen to interpret the information hes gettting. But it depends on the other players too, other town has to pm him and give him accurate clear information.
At least half of the "bad" marshalls i've seen didn't lynch wrong because they screwed up, they followed the information they were given and lynched with decent logic behind their decisions, they only lynched wrong because townies either didn't claim roles or gave unclear information.
Ironically it's often the same townies who gave the wrong information / didn't roleclaim which resulted in the incorrect lynches who are the 1st to start bitching about them "fail marshall/mayor!, WTF shit marshall!". "fucking noob, whyd you lynch me (after refusing to roleclaim)"
April 28th, 2015, 08:24 AM
[QUOTE=Cryptonic;478703]However, a guilty voter becoming Jester is also a great idea![/QUOTE]
yeah, this is what i thought slaol was suggesting in his page 1 post. But honestly both variations would be fun :p.
edit: n/m i just missed this suggestion "[ ] Take control of random guilty voter"
Originally Posted by
Cryptonic
However, a guilty voter becoming Jester is also a great idea!
yeah, this is what i thought slaol was suggesting in his page 1 post. But honestly both variations would be fun .
edit: n/m i just missed this suggestion "[ ] Take control of random guilty voter"
April 28th, 2015, 08:19 AM
i think the option about disguising as one of the guilty voters needs some clarification / wording changes :p. Are you suggesting that the jester doesn't actually die when lynched and instead becomes someone else (who dies in his place) like a disguiser kill?
I think the suggestion made earlier in the thread that that option is based on (i skim read past the parts with ninjas usual nonsensical arguing, so maybe i missed some stuff) was simply that instead of 1 random person dieing, that person becomes a new jester.
Either way i voted for it. disguising as jester when lynched would be hilarious :p.
i think the option about disguising as one of the guilty voters needs some clarification / wording changes . Are you suggesting that the jester doesn't actually die when lynched and instead becomes someone else (who dies in his place) like a disguiser kill?
I think the suggestion made earlier in the thread that that option is based on (i skim read past the parts with ninjas usual nonsensical arguing, so maybe i missed some stuff) was simply that instead of 1 random person dieing, that person becomes a new jester.
Either way i voted for it. disguising as jester when lynched would be hilarious .
April 28th, 2015, 03:00 AM
[QUOTE=MasterNinja;478678]but as nothing happends over 5-8 hours you can guess the obvious answer.[/QUOTE]
that you're impatient?
Originally Posted by
MasterNinja
but as nothing happends over 5-8 hours you can guess the obvious answer.
that you're impatient?
April 27th, 2015, 03:56 AM
Horrible, Horrible strategy. Townies fake claiming different town roles in order to make their accusation seem more credible is one of the most annoying things in mafia and shot not be encouraged in any way shape or form (unless you tend to -prefer evil roles, in which case you should get as many people as you can to start trying it out)
I've lost count of the amount of games where someone did something absolutely moronic like fake claim sheriff, accuse someone of being mafia to get them lynched (they were town) then go .. oh whoops, im actually a doc, he seemed like he was mafia ... idiot.
Oh and lets not forget the always classic "i'm a mason leader, i couldn't convert him, that means he's mafia! so i'll claim sheriff and get him lynched!" ... idiot.
There's some merit to the whole "I'm pretty sure he's evil, but i can't prove it so i'll lie to convince the others" line of thought IF you're a decent player. However most players who do it are absolutely retarded and are doing little better than making random accusations based on no evidence and get a townie lynched, then themselves too ... idiot.
You also fuck other legitimate investigatives. How fun is it on day 4 to realise that there's only 1 invest slot remaining, but 2 people claiming it and giving different information. Lets spend a day resolving that and probably lynching 1 of them, only to find out that the liar was actually just an incredibly stupid townie ... idiot.
In short, yeah, there are some cases to be made for lying about your role as town being beneficial. it can be IF you are very smart about it and are able to deduce accurate leads without actual invest information. but the vast majority of players are NOT good enough to do that. Most townies that fake claim just end up fucking the town over.
Horrible, Horrible strategy. Townies fake claiming different town roles in order to make their accusation seem more credible is one of the most annoying things in mafia and shot not be encouraged in any way shape or form (unless you tend to -prefer evil roles, in which case you should get as many people as you can to start trying it out)
I've lost count of the amount of games where someone did something absolutely moronic like fake claim sheriff, accuse someone of being mafia to get them lynched (they were town) then go .. oh whoops, im actually a doc, he seemed like he was mafia ... idiot.
Oh and lets not forget the always classic "i'm a mason leader, i couldn't convert him, that means he's mafia! so i'll claim sheriff and get him lynched!" ... idiot.
There's some merit to the whole "I'm pretty sure he's evil, but i can't prove it so i'll lie to convince the others" line of thought IF you're a decent player. However most players who do it are absolutely retarded and are doing little better than making random accusations based on no evidence and get a townie lynched, then themselves too ... idiot.
You also fuck other legitimate investigatives. How fun is it on day 4 to realise that there's only 1 invest slot remaining, but 2 people claiming it and giving different information. Lets spend a day resolving that and probably lynching 1 of them, only to find out that the liar was actually just an incredibly stupid townie ... idiot.
In short, yeah, there are some cases to be made for lying about your role as town being beneficial. it can be IF you are very smart about it and are able to deduce accurate leads without actual invest information. but the vast majority of players are NOT good enough to do that. Most townies that fake claim just end up fucking the town over.
April 26th, 2015, 05:17 AM
i have this vision in my head of a decent jester getting almost unanimously lynched d3 or so and whiping out the entire game.
I can see many games ending early as 5 people die to jester in 1 night.
i have this vision in my head of a decent jester getting almost unanimously lynched d3 or so and whiping out the entire game.
I can see many games ending early as 5 people die to jester in 1 night.
April 21st, 2015, 04:32 AM
[QUOTE=Cryptonic;477594]Idea is there, but needs a better name.
Calling this a Psychopath is basically claiming that the Serial Killer, Arsonist, Mass Murderer, Mafia/Triad Killing do not have psychopathic tendencies lol[/QUOTE]
Who says they do. Maybe they're all just trying to save the planet by reducing overpopulation, not the heroes we want, but the heroes we need.
Originally Posted by
Cryptonic
Idea is there, but needs a better name.
Calling this a Psychopath is basically claiming that the Serial Killer, Arsonist, Mass Murderer, Mafia/Triad Killing do not have psychopathic tendencies lol
Who says they do. Maybe they're all just trying to save the planet by reducing overpopulation, not the heroes we want, but the heroes we need.
April 15th, 2015, 11:37 PM
[QUOTE=MasterNinja;476995]mafia killing can make 2 GF's at startup[/QUOTE]
it shouldn't, since gf is a unique role.
Originally Posted by
MasterNinja
mafia killing can make 2 GF's at startup
it shouldn't, since gf is a unique role.
April 15th, 2015, 11:36 PM
Yeah you get a game like that every now and then. I've got a replay saved where 4 out of 6 evils died night 1 then i -lynched (as marshall) and lynched the other 2. Game ended on day 2 with only 1 or 2 town dead.
Yeah you get a game like that every now and then. I've got a replay saved where 4 out of 6 evils died night 1 then i -lynched (as marshall) and lynched the other 2. Game ended on day 2 with only 1 or 2 town dead.
April 12th, 2015, 08:32 PM
[QUOTE=Cryptonic;476480]Scumbag wins over Auditor and Scumbag win shows as "Witch Win" regardless of what role got converted.
Scumbag splash might be added in future, but, for now, this is how it is.[/QUOTE]
Should change it anyway just so people stop reporting it. This exact thing is (atm) literaly the title of the very next thread below this one. :p
Originally Posted by
Cryptonic
Scumbag wins over Auditor and Scumbag win shows as "Witch Win" regardless of what role got converted.
Scumbag splash might be added in future, but, for now, this is how it is.
Should change it anyway just so people stop reporting it. This exact thing is (atm) literaly the title of the very next thread below this one.