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[QUOTE=Deathworlds Host;627849][COLOR="#ccffcc"][CENTER][SIZE=5][B]Game Over[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]The [COLOR="#00FF00"]Town [/COLOR]and the [COLOR="#DDA0DD"]Jesters [/COLOR]have won

Congratulations to [COLOR="#DDA0DD"]Unknown1234, Iced_Monopoly, GameFreak, [/COLOR][COLOR="#00FF00"]Gyrlander, Taekyon, ThePaladin, RLVG, Eggy, Kovath, Spruance[/COLOR][/SIZE][/b]

Given that the[U] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Jester King and the Town can win together[/COLOR][/U] and given that the Town does not need to kill the Witch to attain their win condition, we have decided to end the game early instead of dragging it out.

[/QUOTE]

Jester King: Get lynched.
Jester: Have the Jester King be lynched. If the Jester King dies at night, your win condition changes to get lynched.
Insane: Have 1 member survive to the end,[U] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Eliminate the Jester King[/COLOR][/U], the Cult, the Occult, and any killing sinister.

The Jester King, Jesters and even Insane didn't reach their win condition.

Oh well.

Originally Posted by Deathworlds Host

[COLOR="#ccffcc"][CENTER]Game Over

The Town and the Jesters have won

Congratulations to Unknown1234, Iced_Monopoly, GameFreak, Gyrlander, Taekyon, ThePaladin, RLVG, Eggy, Kovath, Spruance

Given that the Jester King and the Town can win together and given that the Town does not need to kill the Witch to attain their win condition, we have decided to end the game early instead of dragging it out.

Jester King: Get lynched.
Jester: Have the Jester King be lynched. If the Jester King dies at night, your win condition changes to get lynched.
Insane: Have 1 member survive to the end, Eliminate the Jester King, the Cult, the Occult, and any killing sinister.

The Jester King, Jesters and even Insane didn't reach their win condition.

Oh well.

I knew secondpassing was sinister but though he was cult/occult...I tried to purge him last night.
I can't believe there was a Mason Leader without Cult/Occult.
Nice game though.

It was crazy hard for me to confirm my role, I loved that! :)
Since I got Jester King card, every action I did never gave me any useful information.
Until the end I was wondering if I was really ML or if I was Cult/Occult.

I knew secondpassing was sinister but though he was cult/occult...I tried to purge him last night.
I can't believe there was a Mason Leader without Cult/Occult.
Nice game though.

It was crazy hard for me to confirm my role, I loved that!
Since I got Jester King card, every action I did never gave me any useful information.
Until the end I was wondering if I was really ML or if I was Cult/Occult.

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;627480]You play with manipulation, but you're hiding something...[/QUOTE]

If he's hiding something, (which is unlikely), we'll see it after the next night.

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

You play with manipulation, but you're hiding something...

If he's hiding something, (which is unlikely), we'll see it after the next night.

Vote staying on yzb25.
ThePaladin will Roleblock unknown anyway.

Vote staying on yzb25.
ThePaladin will Roleblock unknown anyway.

Time for the witch to go down.
[vote]yzb25[/vote]

I'm also sorry for the sudden hammer, ending the day "too soon" for some person.

Time for the witch to go down.

-vote yzb25

I'm also sorry for the sudden hammer, ending the day "too soon" for some person.

Since the no kill / TDL being role blocked make sense, I will also vote him.
If he flip town, well played sinister...
And I always wanted to hammer someone... :P
(I'm glad I couldn't sleep and went to check the forum :3)

[vote]TheDarkestLight[/vote]

Since the no kill / TDL being role blocked make sense, I will also vote him.
If he flip town, well played sinister...
And I always wanted to hammer someone... :P
(I'm glad I couldn't sleep and went to check the forum :3)

-vote TheDarkestLight

[QUOTE=secondpassing;626338]Well unless Spruance was healed or something, Taekyon confirmed not SK #notskconfirmed

^have to type this since break is going to end and I wanna be the very firsts[/QUOTE]

Wasn't I already kinda confirmed not SK since you didn't die first night? :P

Originally Posted by secondpassing

Well unless Spruance was healed or something, Taekyon confirmed not SK #notskconfirmed

^have to type this since break is going to end and I wanna be the very firsts

Wasn't I already kinda confirmed not SK since you didn't die first night? :P

Just need to wait until he show up and tell us what his feedback was.
I just hope I was the only one that targeted him, will be easier to figure out my role.

Also, no kill last night, escort did a great job I guess, or scum forgot to use night action lol.
Or the Killer actually hit someone with an auto-vest.

Just need to wait until he show up and tell us what his feedback was.
I just hope I was the only one that targeted him, will be easier to figure out my role.

Also, no kill last night, escort did a great job I guess, or scum forgot to use night action lol.
Or the Killer actually hit someone with an auto-vest.

I did visit Spruance last night.

I did visit Spruance last night.

[QUOTE=ThePaladin;625679][MENTION=7573]Taekyon[/MENTION] who was your n1 target again?[/QUOTE]

SP

Originally Posted by ThePaladin

@Taekyon who was your n1 target again?

SP

[QUOTE=secondpassing;625671]Time to save my own skin!
Just gonna drop this vote here~
Gonna hope no one notices~
I'm going to drag this out♫



Let's not spread chaos okay?


secondpassing, GameFreak, Gyrlander, Taekyon, Unknown1234, yzb25

I'm not sure.[/QUOTE]

10 members and 5 guest, Do't forget invisible mode.

Originally Posted by secondpassing

Time to save my own skin!
Just gonna drop this vote here~
Gonna hope no one notices~
I'm going to drag this out♫



Let's not spread chaos okay?


secondpassing, GameFreak, Gyrlander, Taekyon, Unknown1234, yzb25

I'm not sure.

10 members and 5 guest, Do't forget invisible mode.

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;625651]Iced has 25% chance (someone said 33%) of correct feedback. Why would that be helpful?[/QUOTE]

Since my card doesn't show ML and he didn't see me as citizen, that mean I would be lunatic.
If I can confirm my role has ML with spruance, I will be able to confirm Iced is truly Investigator.
If I'm not ML, Iced is a Lunatic. As simple as that.

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

Iced has 25% chance (someone said 33%) of correct feedback. Why would that be helpful?

Since my card doesn't show ML and he didn't see me as citizen, that mean I would be lunatic.
If I can confirm my role has ML with spruance, I will be able to confirm Iced is truly Investigator.
If I'm not ML, Iced is a Lunatic. As simple as that.

Changing my vote on Eggy.

[Vote]Eggy[/vote]

If all goes well tonight, we'll have a bunch of confirmation tomorrow.
Note that scum could fuck this up in several manners so I guess there's gonna be some puzzles to solve tomorrow.

Changing my vote on Eggy.

-vote Eggy

If all goes well tonight, we'll have a bunch of confirmation tomorrow.
Note that scum could fuck this up in several manners so I guess there's gonna be some puzzles to solve tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;625629]It's so easy as an Assylum Counselor visiting me. IDIOT.[/QUOTE]

So are you suggesting that Iced check you tonight to confirm your role?
Plus, me checking Spruance, confirming my role, which could confirm Iced role.

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

It's so easy as an Assylum Counselor visiting me. IDIOT.

So are you suggesting that Iced check you tonight to confirm your role?
Plus, me checking Spruance, confirming my role, which could confirm Iced role.

You guys are aware that I never really claimed Vigilante?
I gave you what my card was. I targeted SP. He did not die.
At this point, I knew I was not Vigilante (I always had my doubt since we have the Lunatic mechanic)
SP did not receive feedback, or he's hiding it. (Not trying to say SP is Sinister, just giving the possibilities)
I'll go with the plan tonight and target Spruance and hope I got a chance to get my true role because I'm not even sure I'm ML right now...
If something goes bad, I'll accept the lynch tomorrow (If no better target show up)
If I'm not converting Spruance to the Mason tonight, that mean Iced is Lunatic.
I hope BD won't fuck up this plan because it would help confirming at least 3 persons.

You guys are aware that I never really claimed Vigilante?
I gave you what my card was. I targeted SP. He did not die.
At this point, I knew I was not Vigilante (I always had my doubt since we have the Lunatic mechanic)
SP did not receive feedback, or he's hiding it. (Not trying to say SP is Sinister, just giving the possibilities)
I'll go with the plan tonight and target Spruance and hope I got a chance to get my true role because I'm not even sure I'm ML right now...
If something goes bad, I'll accept the lynch tomorrow (If no better target show up)
If I'm not converting Spruance to the Mason tonight, that mean Iced is Lunatic.
I hope BD won't fuck up this plan because it would help confirming at least 3 persons.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;625522]I think you are a better target for a PL, Spruance.[/QUOTE]

But Spruance is my target tonight :(

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I think you are a better target for a PL, Spruance.

But Spruance is my target tonight

[QUOTE=ThePaladin;625285]So how many shots do you have Mr.Vigilante?[/QUOTE]

I got 3 on the role card.
2 remaining if I was indeed Vigilante.
That would either mean that SP got hit by Doctor AND Drug Dealer because he got no feedback or that he's got an auto-vest.

Originally Posted by ThePaladin

So how many shots do you have Mr.Vigilante?

I got 3 on the role card.
2 remaining if I was indeed Vigilante.
That would either mean that SP got hit by Doctor AND Drug Dealer because he got no feedback or that he's got an auto-vest.

I'm Lunatic then, noted.
Probably ML, we'll see tomorrow with Spruance's feedback.
Or something else if Iced is Lunatic too.
God this game...

I'm Lunatic then, noted.
Probably ML, we'll see tomorrow with Spruance's feedback.
Or something else if Iced is Lunatic too.
God this game...

Anyway, I'll go with a yzb25 vote too for pressure.

[vote]yzb25[/vote]

Anyway, I'll go with a yzb25 vote too for pressure.

-vote yzb25

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;625271]Well if you were actually Vigi and shot SP, then he would've received healing feedback last night. Therefor you are not Vigi, lending credit to my feedback that you are in fact an insane with the real role of ML.

With this in mind, tonight I believe you should target Spruance, as he claims to be Citizen after being visited by the AC. As the ML you will be able to convert Spruance to Mason. This also means as a Unique role, YZB cannot be ML and is also likely a lunatic. I am afraid that he is oc(cult) leader although he can be anything at all.

YZB, please provide your N1 target.
[vote]YZB25[/vote][/QUOTE]

Don't forget the auto-vest though...

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

Well if you were actually Vigi and shot SP, then he would've received healing feedback last night. Therefor you are not Vigi, lending credit to my feedback that you are in fact an insane with the real role of ML.

With this in mind, tonight I believe you should target Spruance, as he claims to be Citizen after being visited by the AC. As the ML you will be able to convert Spruance to Mason. This also means as a Unique role, YZB cannot be ML and is also likely a lunatic. I am afraid that he is oc(cult) leader although he can be anything at all.

YZB, please provide your N1 target.

-vote YZB25

Don't forget the auto-vest though...

[QUOTE=secondpassing;625272]So you tried to kill me, your gut town read?[/QUOTE]

Town-[U]ish[/U] read but I always had my suspicion.

Originally Posted by secondpassing

So you tried to kill me, your gut town read?

Town-ish read but I always had my suspicion.

[QUOTE=ThePaladin;625267]Vigilante isn't in this setup.

Mind actually claiming?[/QUOTE]

Hidden Insane: Mason Leader, Asylum Counselor, [U]Vigilante[/U], Bodyguard, Escort, Doctor, Sheriff, Insane Sheriff, Veteran, Bus Driver, Investigator, Citizen

Originally Posted by ThePaladin

Vigilante isn't in this setup.

Mind actually claiming?

Hidden Insane: Mason Leader, Asylum Counselor, Vigilante, Bodyguard, Escort, Doctor, Sheriff, Insane Sheriff, Veteran, Bus Driver, Investigator, Citizen

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;625262]You received a role card on game start. What role did that card say you had on it?[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="#00FF00"]Vigilante[/COLOR]

Which is obviously not right since SP is still alive.

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

You received a role card on game start. What role did that card say you had on it?

Vigilante

Which is obviously not right since SP is still alive.

I'm willing to do my night action on anyone you all agree on to confirm my role.

I'm willing to do my night action on anyone you all agree on to confirm my role.

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;625259]Are you claiming citizen?[/QUOTE]

I don't know what I am... I said it several time already...
It could be a possibility though.
SP not receiving feedback would make sense.

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

Are you claiming citizen?

I don't know what I am... I said it several time already...
It could be a possibility though.
SP not receiving feedback would make sense.

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;625255]If you are ML, you would've received feedback indicating that SP was immune to conversion. The fact that you instead intended to persue asking SP for feedback would indicate that you dont know how the fuck the ML role works, and as such you didnt receive it as your role card.

So you are either a lunatic whos actually a ML, or im a lunatic. Given that I also visited you last night, and you havnt reported having been left with any feedback implying you were visited, that can strike a number of roles I could potentially be in the event that I am a lunatic.[/QUOTE]

Can't wait to see that we are both Citizen... lol.

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

If you are ML, you would've received feedback indicating that SP was immune to conversion. The fact that you instead intended to persue asking SP for feedback would indicate that you dont know how the fuck the ML role works, and as such you didnt receive it as your role card.

So you are either a lunatic whos actually a ML, or im a lunatic. Given that I also visited you last night, and you havnt reported having been left with any feedback implying you were visited, that can strike a number of roles I could potentially be in the event that I am a lunatic.

Can't wait to see that we are both Citizen... lol.

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;625240][COLOR="#00FF00"]Visiting Player A, Visiting Player B:
If there is only 2 people, then there can only be two orders?
A, B & B, A
We know that it cant be in order, so the feedback will always be B, A. So sleuth can just reverse his targets to get their roles?[/COLOR]

Also at this point I believe Taek is a sinister. Either (oc)cult or slueth[/QUOTE]

If I was cult/occult, I would have converted secondpassing. he did not get any feedback so not converted.
If he was sinister, he wouldn't want me dead since I would be on his side.

I have yet to discover my own role to be honest.
Seeing how secondpassing did not receive any feedback, tha investigation on me being Mason Leader is false.
That does not remove that fact that I can still be anything.
That's why I want another night to at least confirm my role.
We know at least it's not a killing role so town is safe in case I choose a bad target by mistake.

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

Visiting Player A, Visiting Player B:
If there is only 2 people, then there can only be two orders?
A, B & B, A
We know that it cant be in order, so the feedback will always be B, A. So sleuth can just reverse his targets to get their roles?

Also at this point I believe Taek is a sinister. Either (oc)cult or slueth

If I was cult/occult, I would have converted secondpassing. he did not get any feedback so not converted.
If he was sinister, he wouldn't want me dead since I would be on his side.

I have yet to discover my own role to be honest.
Seeing how secondpassing did not receive any feedback, tha investigation on me being Mason Leader is false.
That does not remove that fact that I can still be anything.
That's why I want another night to at least confirm my role.
We know at least it's not a killing role so town is safe in case I choose a bad target by mistake.

[QUOTE=secondpassing;625232]I cannot confirm that Taekyon visited me.[/QUOTE]

If you can't confirm that I visited you then that mean I'm not Mason Leader.
That mean Iced_Monopoly is Lunatic and not Investigator.

Originally Posted by secondpassing

I cannot confirm that Taekyon visited me.

If you can't confirm that I visited you then that mean I'm not Mason Leader.
That mean Iced_Monopoly is Lunatic and not Investigator.

I did not get role blocked last night. My target was secondpassing.

I did not get role blocked last night. My target was secondpassing.

[QUOTE=RLVG;625172]The question is if the Jester King steals the victory.[/QUOTE]

I think Jester King would have a win of is own like:

If there's still cult and town that didn't reach their winning condition, the game continue.

Originally Posted by RLVG

The question is if the Jester King steals the victory.

I think Jester King would have a win of is own like:

If there's still cult and town that didn't reach their winning condition, the game continue.

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;625162]I should probably tag you in this since its easy to overlook. [MENTION=7573]Taekyon[/MENTION]. I would ask for the role you recieved, as it may help with speculation, but I dont know if thats justified yet...

If its a role that is easily confirmable, ie escort, then I would assume that I am in fact the lunatic, however if its something that is hard to confirm or requires little effort, like citizen, then I would assume you are the lunatic.[/QUOTE]

Give me another night to verify my role (First one wasn't fruitful unfortunately)
The next day, I will gladly confirm your role by asking my target what feedback they received.
In case I die tonight, my true role being revealed tomorrow will also help you.
Win-Win situation.

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

I should probably tag you in this since its easy to overlook. @Taekyon . I would ask for the role you recieved, as it may help with speculation, but I dont know if thats justified yet...

If its a role that is easily confirmable, ie escort, then I would assume that I am in fact the lunatic, however if its something that is hard to confirm or requires little effort, like citizen, then I would assume you are the lunatic.

Give me another night to verify my role (First one wasn't fruitful unfortunately)
The next day, I will gladly confirm your role by asking my target what feedback they received.
In case I die tonight, my true role being revealed tomorrow will also help you.
Win-Win situation.

I'm back.
I'm still reading but saw the investigator thing...
My rolecard is not Mason Leader.

I'm back.
I'm still reading but saw the investigator thing...
My rolecard is not Mason Leader.

That's all the time I had today.
Since the day has been extended, I'll be there tonight to read and post if necessary.

That's all the time I had today.
Since the day has been extended, I'll be there tonight to read and post if necessary.

I'll assume #633 is the right post...

[QUOTE=secondpassing;624563]Taekyon was on when I was last night yet only replied today [I]when other people were on at the same time.[/I] That means he only wishes to appear town in front of others and
A: shirking his duty to move town forward
B: hiding what he really is

If you look at the time stamps, I think it is not a coincidence that he has replied during the times when other people were on, yet did not reply after I left. (I replied ~14 hours ago, he replied ~2 hours ago -> near times when other people had posted, roughly 10 minutes in between.)

While I initially did read him as town, I feel he has tried to deceive me, leaving after he felt he has gotten his town credibility (to avoid slipping). I see no [I]real [/I]mention of his frustration of not being able to read players. I expected his towniness trend to continue but it did not. Instead he has attacked players opinions and standings [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/37211-S-FM-204-Insanity?p=623934&viewfull=1#post623934"]post 362[/URL] and has advocated a docile town here.
He's also lurked the second 24hrs of this 4xday-day1.

Has he not read the thread? Maybe. Has he definitely not commented on more important things? Yes.

Oddly, everyone has jumped off the GameFreak train (do you all think that his roleclaim is good enough?) -> I actually understand why, again, I just don't agree.
But I wish for a Taekyon lynch today above all else now.

[VOTE]Taekyon[/VOTE][/QUOTE]

I don't really get your point here... I already said somewhere that:
1- I'll be checking the forum sporadically.
2- I don't close the browser so you will always see me connected and browsing this thread. Doesn't mean I'm here.

Also, your suspicion on me are based on a gut read I made of some people, early in the game, without any valid info.
I don't blame you for this, as I did the same thing.
But I didn't push for a vote based on those gut feeling since these are not really valid.

I'll assume #633 is the right post...

Originally Posted by secondpassing

Taekyon was on when I was last night yet only replied today when other people were on at the same time. That means he only wishes to appear town in front of others and
A: shirking his duty to move town forward
B: hiding what he really is

If you look at the time stamps, I think it is not a coincidence that he has replied during the times when other people were on, yet did not reply after I left. (I replied ~14 hours ago, he replied ~2 hours ago -> near times when other people had posted, roughly 10 minutes in between.)

While I initially did read him as town, I feel he has tried to deceive me, leaving after he felt he has gotten his town credibility (to avoid slipping). I see no real mention of his frustration of not being able to read players. I expected his towniness trend to continue but it did not. Instead he has attacked players opinions and standings post 362 and has advocated a docile town here.
He's also lurked the second 24hrs of this 4xday-day1.

Has he not read the thread? Maybe. Has he definitely not commented on more important things? Yes.

Oddly, everyone has jumped off the GameFreak train (do you all think that his roleclaim is good enough?) -> I actually understand why, again, I just don't agree.
But I wish for a Taekyon lynch today above all else now.

-vote Taekyon

I don't really get your point here... I already said somewhere that:
1- I'll be checking the forum sporadically.
2- I don't close the browser so you will always see me connected and browsing this thread. Doesn't mean I'm here.

Also, your suspicion on me are based on a gut read I made of some people, early in the game, without any valid info.
I don't blame you for this, as I did the same thing.
But I didn't push for a vote based on those gut feeling since these are not really valid.

Are you referring to post #633?

Are you referring to post #633?

[QUOTE=secondpassing;624986][MENTION=7573]Taekyon[/MENTION] would you like to respond to my case on you I made on Day 1?

Its also linked somewhere in today's post.[/QUOTE]

Can you help me find the post?
You're the one that wrote it so it would be easier for you to find it.
Just the post number will be enough.
I'll keep searching too of course but your help would be appreciated.
I don't have much time before I'm gone for the day.

Originally Posted by secondpassing

@Taekyon would you like to respond to my case on you I made on Day 1?

Its also linked somewhere in today's post.

Can you help me find the post?
You're the one that wrote it so it would be easier for you to find it.
Just the post number will be enough.
I'll keep searching too of course but your help would be appreciated.
I don't have much time before I'm gone for the day.

Confirmed-ish role + my though so far:
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Hidden Sinister - Serial Killer[/COLOR]/[COLOR="#8B4513"]Mass murderer[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Hidden Sinister[/COLOR] - [COLOR="#EE82EE"]Cult Leader ?[/COLOR]/[COLOR="#800080"]Occult Leader ?[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Confirmed Insane - Asylum Director
Hidden Insane - [s]Citizen[/s]
Hidden Insane - Escort
Hidden Insane - Sherif?
Hidden Insane - Bus Driver ?
Hidden Insane - Citizen ?
Hidden Insane - Mason Leader ?
Hidden Insane - Asylum Counselor[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Hidden Any -
Hidden Any -
Hidden Any - [/COLOR]

With an AD and a AC in the game, (With the AC targeting Spruance) we have 1 confirmed Insane role and one confirmed Insane alignment (given randomly by the AD)
That is if Spruance did not lie of course...

Confirmed-ish role + my though so far:
Hidden Sinister - Serial Killer/Mass murderer
Hidden Sinister - Cult Leader ?/Occult Leader ?
Confirmed Insane - Asylum Director
Hidden Insane - Citizen
Hidden Insane - Escort
Hidden Insane - Sherif?
Hidden Insane - Bus Driver ?
Hidden Insane - Citizen ?
Hidden Insane - Mason Leader ?
Hidden Insane - Asylum Counselor
Hidden Any -
Hidden Any -
Hidden Any -

With an AD and a AC in the game, (With the AC targeting Spruance) we have 1 confirmed Insane role and one confirmed Insane alignment (given randomly by the AD)
That is if Spruance did not lie of course...

Recent reads:

[Spoiler=Eggy]
Claiming Bus Driver and did nothing last night. I don't trust this. He had a chance to get some clues his role and did nothing.
Also, he never even mentioned that he skipped his action on purpose so that others could confirm their role more easily.

Scum-ish read so far.
[/spoiler]

[Spoiler=GameFreak]
Claimed Escort but got hit by Escort. Coincidence is weird.

[QUOTE=GameFreak;624811]Read my post again , i said i confirmed an escort. Never said that i am one, you are right for all we know I'm a serial killer.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't know his own role yet. If he's not roleblocked this night and there's 2 dead bodies on day 3, on him goes my vote.
Or since I said that, he won't perform his night action to save himself just in case. We either get one extra death on day 3 and lynch a sinister or no extra death.

Town-ish read so far.
[/spoiler]

[Spoiler=Gyrlander]

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;624735]My night feedback was kinda... scary.[/QUOTE]

You got my curiosity...

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;624764]Why the fuck you guys claim Citizen? You want Evils to target people that could be TPRs? Fucking DUMB. STOP IT RIGHT NOW.[/QUOTE]

Town read from this post.

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[vote]Taekyon[/vote][/QUOTE]

This doesn't seem pro-town though. Sheeping secondpassing on a proof-less vote on me without adding any information.
(To be clear, I would have pointed this out even if the vote wasn't on me. This is not a attempt to defend myself. I don't even know my true role yet)

Mixed read about him.

[/spoiler]

[Spoiler=Iced_Monopoly]

[QUOTE=Iced_Monopoly;624909]I am not comfortable with a taekyon lynch today.
Nor am I overly comfortable with a lynch on eggy

This post is almost textbook jester(king) play, more than enough points to bring attention to himself, and then a lack of replies seals the deal.

Instead id prefer to focus on spruance, after going through his posts, almost all of D1 was shitposting, followed by discrediting scum reading or anyone having any thoughts on other players, then fake voting, and I think at one point jokingly claiming ML before changing to AC. Today he claimed that he himself was checked by AC, and was revealed to be cit. Given that the AC doesnt get to see what the role is, it would be easy for Spruance to fake claim cit, a role that wouldnt require him having to construe a night action that may require confirmation. So thats where my vote is going.
[vote]Spruance[/vote]

Lets not forget that from this point forward, days are only [B]24 hours[/B] in length.[/QUOTE]

Scum hunting, town read so far.
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[spoiler=RLVG]

I trust(ish) his claim as Sherif. But could be Cult for all we know with his first convertion being ThePaladin. (Gut-feeling)

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[Spoiler=Spruance]

Claimed being visited by AC, got his role confirmed (citizen)
Claiming this is either:
1- A bad play since it narrow down Insane PR role for Sinister to kill since they won't bother to target him.
2- A good way to save himself since there's no way to confirm he really got visited by the AC.
Both are bad, I don't trust him.

He did not post much on day 2 so far. Feel like scum hiding after being safe or the usual "I'm citizen and can't do shit to help at night so I won't bother playing anymore"

Scum-ish read so far.
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[Spoiler=TheDarkestLight]
Town read so far. Nothing to note in particular.
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[spoiler=ThePaladin]
[QUOTE=ThePaladin;624879][COLOR=#afeeee]Too all players

Were you trying to train on me to get a lynch off or because you hard-scum read me?

I find it odd how Yzb trains on [U]takeyon[/U] [iirc] decides calling me[ being fine with no lynch and then saying, I could lynch these 2 people who's playstyles are always detrimental or so scummy we can't tell if they are scum ]as scummy, but decided to shift from [U]takeyon[/U] to me and then even push a train on me.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I don't like how he messed up my name twice...

Other than that, nothing particular to note.

Town read so far (If RLVG did not convert him ^.^)
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[spoiler=Unknown1234]

Nothing except his (not shared) feedback that he qualified of "scary" like Gyrlander.

Town read so far.
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[Spoiler=secondpassing]
I don't like the way he's constantly targeting me for no apparent reason.

I still get a town-ish read on him though.(gut-feeling)
(Could be my executioner lol)
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[spoiler=yzb25]

Nothing particular on him either. I feel like he's trying to help town.

Town read so far.
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I'll be gone in ~1 hour.

Recent reads:

Spoiler : Eggy :

Claiming Bus Driver and did nothing last night. I don't trust this. He had a chance to get some clues his role and did nothing.
Also, he never even mentioned that he skipped his action on purpose so that others could confirm their role more easily.

Scum-ish read so far.

Spoiler : GameFreak :

Claimed Escort but got hit by Escort. Coincidence is weird.

Originally Posted by GameFreak

Read my post again , i said i confirmed an escort. Never said that i am one, you are right for all we know I'm a serial killer.

Doesn't know his own role yet. If he's not roleblocked this night and there's 2 dead bodies on day 3, on him goes my vote.
Or since I said that, he won't perform his night action to save himself just in case. We either get one extra death on day 3 and lynch a sinister or no extra death.

Town-ish read so far.

Spoiler : Gyrlander :

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

My night feedback was kinda... scary.

You got my curiosity...

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Why the fuck you guys claim Citizen? You want Evils to target people that could be TPRs? Fucking DUMB. STOP IT RIGHT NOW.

Town read from this post.

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Hey guys! Looks like the train is preparing to set off!

-vote Taekyon

This doesn't seem pro-town though. Sheeping secondpassing on a proof-less vote on me without adding any information.
(To be clear, I would have pointed this out even if the vote wasn't on me. This is not a attempt to defend myself. I don't even know my true role yet)

Mixed read about him.

Spoiler : Iced_Monopoly :

Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly

I am not comfortable with a taekyon lynch today.
Nor am I overly comfortable with a lynch on eggy

This post is almost textbook jester(king) play, more than enough points to bring attention to himself, and then a lack of replies seals the deal.

Instead id prefer to focus on spruance, after going through his posts, almost all of D1 was shitposting, followed by discrediting scum reading or anyone having any thoughts on other players, then fake voting, and I think at one point jokingly claiming ML before changing to AC. Today he claimed that he himself was checked by AC, and was revealed to be cit. Given that the AC doesnt get to see what the role is, it would be easy for Spruance to fake claim cit, a role that wouldnt require him having to construe a night action that may require confirmation. So thats where my vote is going.

-vote Spruance

Lets not forget that from this point forward, days are only 24 hours in length.

Scum hunting, town read so far.

Spoiler : RLVG :

I trust(ish) his claim as Sherif. But could be Cult for all we know with his first convertion being ThePaladin. (Gut-feeling)

Spoiler : Spruance :

Claimed being visited by AC, got his role confirmed (citizen)
Claiming this is either:
1- A bad play since it narrow down Insane PR role for Sinister to kill since they won't bother to target him.
2- A good way to save himself since there's no way to confirm he really got visited by the AC.
Both are bad, I don't trust him.

He did not post much on day 2 so far. Feel like scum hiding after being safe or the usual "I'm citizen and can't do shit to help at night so I won't bother playing anymore"

Scum-ish read so far.

Spoiler : TheDarkestLight :

Town read so far. Nothing to note in particular.

Spoiler : ThePaladin :

Originally Posted by ThePaladin

Too all players

Were you trying to train on me to get a lynch off or because you hard-scum read me?

I find it odd how Yzb trains on takeyon [iirc] decides calling me[ being fine with no lynch and then saying, I could lynch these 2 people who's playstyles are always detrimental or so scummy we can't tell if they are scum ]as scummy, but decided to shift from takeyon to me and then even push a train on me.

I don't like how he messed up my name twice...

Other than that, nothing particular to note.

Town read so far (If RLVG did not convert him )

Spoiler : Unknown1234 :

Nothing except his (not shared) feedback that he qualified of "scary" like Gyrlander.

Town read so far.

Spoiler : secondpassing :

I don't like the way he's constantly targeting me for no apparent reason.

I still get a town-ish read on him though.(gut-feeling)
(Could be my executioner lol)

Spoiler : yzb25 :

Nothing particular on him either. I feel like he's trying to help town.

Town read so far.

I'll be gone in ~1 hour.

[QUOTE=yzb25;624962]Just for the bants, could you post a readwall? Your essay can be between 100 and 1000 words.[/QUOTE]

I'll do my best but like I said earlier, I don't like posting wall of text on proof less reads.
Everybody's read so far is almost all about gut-feeling...

Originally Posted by yzb25

Just for the bants, could you post a readwall? Your essay can be between 100 and 1000 words.

I'll do my best but like I said earlier, I don't like posting wall of text on proof less reads.
Everybody's read so far is almost all about gut-feeling...

I already answered? Post #783

I already answered? Post #783

[QUOTE=yzb25;624955]If you continue to play dumb like this your ass will be hung like mah balls in David Cameron's mama.[/QUOTE]

Because obviously "CHOO CHOO" is a valid point that doesn't need further questioning...

Originally Posted by yzb25

If you continue to play dumb like this your ass will be hung like mah balls in David Cameron's mama.

Because obviously "CHOO CHOO" is a valid point that doesn't need further questioning...

[QUOTE=secondpassing;624945]CHOO CHOO[/QUOTE]

???

Originally Posted by secondpassing

CHOO CHOO

???

Just do you know, I'll be gone later. Got a Doctor's appointment today at 5PM. That's 2 hours before EoD for me.
(Plus the time to get there, I'll probably gone during the 3-4 hours before end of day)
Dunno if I'll be back in time to help with lynch if we decide to do one.

Just do you know, I'll be gone later. Got a Doctor's appointment today at 5PM. That's 2 hours before EoD for me.
(Plus the time to get there, I'll probably gone during the 3-4 hours before end of day)
Dunno if I'll be back in time to help with lynch if we decide to do one.

[QUOTE=yzb25;624917]
Anyway, a lot of people find it implausible that escort rbed the escort claim and a counsellor rbed the counsellor claim. I think we should use some more empathy:

-If I was counsellor, I would conclude that it's unlikely there's two counsellors, and anyone else who honestly has another counseller rolecard is a lunatic. So I'd obviously counsel them in the name of counselling a lunatic.

-If I was escort, I would conclusde that it's unlikely there's two escorts, and anyone else who claims to be escort is likely lying or has a fake rolecard. Either way, it'd be productive to roleblock them until the truth is revealed.

This is not anywhere near as implausible as people seem to imply.[/QUOTE]

That would imply that they know for sure their role.
In this setup, there's no way you can be sure of your role on night 1.

You got to agree that the chances of both happening at the same time is unlikely although not impossible.

Originally Posted by yzb25

Anyway, a lot of people find it implausible that escort rbed the escort claim and a counsellor rbed the counsellor claim. I think we should use some more empathy:

-If I was counsellor, I would conclude that it's unlikely there's two counsellors, and anyone else who honestly has another counseller rolecard is a lunatic. So I'd obviously counsel them in the name of counselling a lunatic.

-If I was escort, I would conclusde that it's unlikely there's two escorts, and anyone else who claims to be escort is likely lying or has a fake rolecard. Either way, it'd be productive to roleblock them until the truth is revealed.

This is not anywhere near as implausible as people seem to imply.

That would imply that they know for sure their role.
In this setup, there's no way you can be sure of your role on night 1.

You got to agree that the chances of both happening at the same time is unlikely although not impossible.

[QUOTE=Gyrlander;624735]My night feedback was kinda... scary.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;624736]Same.[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't it be a great idea to start here to find our next pressure target?

Who targeted these two?
What are the feedback they received?

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

My night feedback was kinda... scary.

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

Same.

Wouldn't it be a great idea to start here to find our next pressure target?

Who targeted these two?
What are the feedback they received?

[QUOTE=RLVG;624901]I need to target someone that's going to die in the night to be 100% certain of Sheriff vs Insane Sheriff, unless we decide to pursue for a lynch based on the feedback that Paladin is Town which is just a logical fallacy on its own.

Don't forget to take in account that I may be a Lunatic. I may also be a Doctor who stopped a kill, who knows.[/QUOTE]

ThePaladin would've got a feedback saying he got saved in case you're a Doctor.
Yet he never told about his feedback (Or I missed it)
The other possibility is that he's keeping his feedback secret to keep you safe.

Originally Posted by RLVG

I need to target someone that's going to die in the night to be 100% certain of Sheriff vs Insane Sheriff, unless we decide to pursue for a lynch based on the feedback that Paladin is Town which is just a logical fallacy on its own.

Don't forget to take in account that I may be a Lunatic. I may also be a Doctor who stopped a kill, who knows.

ThePaladin would've got a feedback saying he got saved in case you're a Doctor.
Yet he never told about his feedback (Or I missed it)
The other possibility is that he's keeping his feedback secret to keep you safe.

[QUOTE=TheDarkestLight;624899]Not obvious he doesn't have a killing role. He could be a Mass Murderer and Paladin visited someone, or maybe a Ritual Killer.

Certainty isn't possible this game.[/QUOTE]

Forgot about these roles. Thanks for that info.

Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight

Not obvious he doesn't have a killing role. He could be a Mass Murderer and Paladin visited someone, or maybe a Ritual Killer.

Certainty isn't possible this game.

Forgot about these roles. Thanks for that info.

Also [MENTION=6656]RLVG[/MENTION], do you think you are [COLOR="#00FF00"]Sherif[/COLOR] or [COLOR="#00FF00"]Insane Sherif[/COLOR]?
If I were you, I would target someone like Spruance to see the result of your Investigation since he claimed [COLOR="#00FF00"]Insane[/COLOR].
It's not the best but could help.
Seeing how ThePaladin is still alive, it's obvious that you don't have a killing role.
But we still have no way of confirming if you are truly Insane or Sinister.

Also @RLVG , do you think you are Sherif or Insane Sherif?
If I were you, I would target someone like Spruance to see the result of your Investigation since he claimed Insane.
It's not the best but could help.
Seeing how ThePaladin is still alive, it's obvious that you don't have a killing role.
But we still have no way of confirming if you are truly Insane or Sinister.

[QUOTE=secondpassing;624892]When does your skepticism end?
Can you tell me which arguments you support?
Can you tell me which arguments are something you made yourself?
Are you scum hunting?[/QUOTE]

~3AM here, can't sleep.
I'm obviously scum hunting as much as I can with the info we got right now.
(Mainly by pointing out things that I find suspicious)
I don't like to write wall of text based on some gut feeling and/or assumption.
I understand my argument can be "lacking" something sometime and that thing is logic.
I'm waiting for a good piece of info before going all out targeting someone with solid info.

I'm still unsure about GameFreak. Unfortunately, I'm lacking info to push further this suspicion of mine.
Only thing I got, like I said earlier, is that weird claim (like Spruance) which was being targeted by the role they though they were.

I though first that the real role (Escort and Asylum Counselor) targeted them to help them confirm their role.
But there's no way both could have done that since they probably don't know their true role either.

If you have any other question, I'll answer them to the best of my ability.

Originally Posted by secondpassing

When does your skepticism end?
Can you tell me which arguments you support?
Can you tell me which arguments are something you made yourself?
Are you scum hunting?

~3AM here, can't sleep.
I'm obviously scum hunting as much as I can with the info we got right now.
(Mainly by pointing out things that I find suspicious)
I don't like to write wall of text based on some gut feeling and/or assumption.
I understand my argument can be "lacking" something sometime and that thing is logic.
I'm waiting for a good piece of info before going all out targeting someone with solid info.

I'm still unsure about GameFreak. Unfortunately, I'm lacking info to push further this suspicion of mine.
Only thing I got, like I said earlier, is that weird claim (like Spruance) which was being targeted by the role they though they were.

I though first that the real role (Escort and Asylum Counselor) targeted them to help them confirm their role.
But there's no way both could have done that since they probably don't know their true role either.

If you have any other question, I'll answer them to the best of my ability.

[QUOTE=GameFreak;624819]I also just read it is possible cult already has 3 members , thats rough.[/QUOTE]

How can there be 3 cult if they can only recruit 1 per night?

Or are you mixing cult and occult together?

Originally Posted by GameFreak

I also just read it is possible cult already has 3 members , thats rough.

How can there be 3 cult if they can only recruit 1 per night?

Or are you mixing cult and occult together?