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Since I consider rurururu town, useless, yet town, I am putting them on ignore for the rest of the game

Since I consider rurururu town, useless, yet town, I am putting them on ignore for the rest of the game

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;611436]I'm not misrepping shit. You admit yourself Having 3 Town DDs was part of your reasoning.

I would've expected you to flip your shit at Matt for having 3 Town DDs, but since you are not a lynch option you don't have to. I find that very convenient for you.[/QUOTE]

You are ignoring how I left the Kovath vote for POD because thsy was less likely, and how I went back because the 1v1 with gaslight guarantees hitting a scum.

But you're from mafia scum right? I expect very little from mafia scum players so I'm not surprised.

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

I'm not misrepping shit. You admit yourself Having 3 Town DDs was part of your reasoning.

I would've expected you to flip your shit at Matt for having 3 Town DDs, but since you are not a lynch option you don't have to. I find that very convenient for you.

You are ignoring how I left the Kovath vote for POD because thsy was less likely, and how I went back because the 1v1 with gaslight guarantees hitting a scum.

But you're from mafia scum right? I expect very little from mafia scum players so I'm not surprised.

[QUOTE=Sino;611433]Is it that unlikely to really have Kovath/Fatalis as Underboss/tailor and to have PoD as mole, who agreed with Fatalis to tell us he checked him as Underboss ?

That would explain the no-mole kill today

Both of the scum faction would be likely to come up with such a plan seeing how, in that world 2/4 scums are dead.

In that world, we're currently at 5v2, putting us at 4v2 if we mislynch Gaslight and giving scum 2NK, thus losing the game.[/QUOTE]

In what world would Voss pick POD as his n1 target? People wanted to policy lynch POD day 1

Originally Posted by Sino

Is it that unlikely to really have Kovath/Fatalis as Underboss/tailor and to have PoD as mole, who agreed with Fatalis to tell us he checked him as Underboss ?

That would explain the no-mole kill today

Both of the scum faction would be likely to come up with such a plan seeing how, in that world 2/4 scums are dead.

In that world, we're currently at 5v2, putting us at 4v2 if we mislynch Gaslight and giving scum 2NK, thus losing the game.

In what world would Voss pick POD as his n1 target? People wanted to policy lynch POD day 1

Idk why I'm even explaining myself to quick though. That guy has rocks in his head instead of a brain.

Idk why I'm even explaining myself to quick though. That guy has rocks in his head instead of a brain.

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;611425]Nope, yesterday you wanted to lynch Kovath because there was no way we had 3 DD, what happened to that argument? You are the one derping.[/QUOTE]

That's not why we wanted to lynch Kovath. You are misrepping my slot by oversimplifying it.

We gave a long descriptive read of why we wanted to lynch Kovath. Finding it unlikely that there were three DDs was part of that.

Then yesterday after Fatalis revealed as Underboss, I SWITCHED MY VOTE onto POD as I found him the more scummy of the two underboss claim because it is EVEN LESS LIKELY that there are two underbosses.

THEN gaslight said Kovath lied and that he didn't roleblock Kovath night 1. THAT is when I switched back to Kovath as I found him more scummy than gaslight.

Don't misrep my positions that have been crystal clear.

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

Nope, yesterday you wanted to lynch Kovath because there was no way we had 3 DD, what happened to that argument? You are the one derping.

That's not why we wanted to lynch Kovath. You are misrepping my slot by oversimplifying it.

We gave a long descriptive read of why we wanted to lynch Kovath. Finding it unlikely that there were three DDs was part of that.

Then yesterday after Fatalis revealed as Underboss, I SWITCHED MY VOTE onto POD as I found him the more scummy of the two underboss claim because it is EVEN LESS LIKELY that there are two underbosses.

THEN gaslight said Kovath lied and that he didn't roleblock Kovath night 1. THAT is when I switched back to Kovath as I found him more scummy than gaslight.

Don't misrep my positions that have been crystal clear.

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;611422]If it was up to me, you would be the lynch today.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, okay mc derpington

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

If it was up to me, you would be the lynch today.

Yeah, okay mc derpington

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;611408]OK, so NOW you want to hear from everyone before EOD, Hypocritical much?[/QUOTE]

Yawn. Nobody is playing aggro anymore. Take a chill pill.

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

OK, so NOW you want to hear from everyone before EOD, Hypocritical much?

Yawn. Nobody is playing aggro anymore. Take a chill pill.

[Vote]g4slight[/vote]

-vote g4slight

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611399]he will say he checked you as capor regardless if you are capor or mole now

hammer now and ill go play your map[/QUOTE]

There is one thing that Fatalis could say that could make me hange my mind on who to lynch

Not saying it though, just wait for him

[Unvote][/unvote]

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

he will say he checked you as capor regardless if you are capor or mole now

hammer now and ill go play your map

There is one thing that Fatalis could say that could make me hange my mind on who to lynch

Not saying it though, just wait for him

-unvote

Gaslight that is

Gaslight that is

I still want to hear from Fatalis before hammering gaslight

He should still be the lynch

I still want to hear from Fatalis before hammering gaslight

He should still be the lynch

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;611392]K, got to page 195 (the thought of it), and I find it curious that BCD says how unlikely it is for there to be 2 Town Underbosses buts says nothing about it being unlikely there are 3 Town DD. Frankly I think the unlikely hood of there being 3 DD to be more unlikely than 2 UB.

In any case, the lynch today is

[vote]G4slight[/vote][/QUOTE]

DD is a negative town role, aka a citizen

Underboss is a TPR. Its not more likely for two investigator's that detect EXACT ROLES than 3 citizens

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

K, got to page 195 (the thought of it), and I find it curious that BCD says how unlikely it is for there to be 2 Town Underbosses buts says nothing about it being unlikely there are 3 Town DD. Frankly I think the unlikely hood of there being 3 DD to be more unlikely than 2 UB.

In any case, the lynch today is

-vote G4slight

DD is a negative town role, aka a citizen

Underboss is a TPR. Its not more likely for two investigator's that detect EXACT ROLES than 3 citizens

[QUOTE=G4slight;611391]If I make it through today I will, but we know ho isn't Luciano since there was a NK last night, and I whole heartedly believe Kovath was scum.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Fatalis isn't flipping tailor, sorry to disappoint.

Originally Posted by G4slight

If I make it through today I will, but we know ho isn't Luciano since there was a NK last night, and I whole heartedly believe Kovath was scum.

Yeah Fatalis isn't flipping tailor, sorry to disappoint.

If POD is the mole that means Fatalis has to be Luciano.

Gaslight and Sino both tried to get Fatalis lynched today. Fatalis isn't Luciano and POD isn't mole

If POD is the mole that means Fatalis has to be Luciano.

Gaslight and Sino both tried to get Fatalis lynched today. Fatalis isn't Luciano and POD isn't mole

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611383]This vote loses in a world where anybody is a mole though.

lynching sino gives us a 50% chance to win if a mole no?[/QUOTE]

If we lynch Sino and are wrong, we have no mislynches left. You die, and we have to pick between POD, gaslight, and Fatalis with no room for error

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

This vote loses in a world where anybody is a mole though.

lynching sino gives us a 50% chance to win if a mole no?

If we lynch Sino and are wrong, we have no mislynches left. You die, and we have to pick between POD, gaslight, and Fatalis with no room for error

To lynch Sino you have to assume he is mole attacked nobody by choice. Why would he do that

If a mole exists its POD who was blocked but he's not the mole

98% sure no mole in game

To lynch Sino you have to assume he is mole attacked nobody by choice. Why would he do that

If a mole exists its POD who was blocked but he's not the mole

98% sure no mole in game

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611380]I dont think fatalis is with g4

He counterclaims pod, both have accurate checks, both would have had to pick underboss, and we would have 0 town invests, doubtful

I am willing to lynch sino today g4 tomorrow, pod last day

banana you on board?[/QUOTE]

Sino dies tonight, why waste a lynch on him

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

I dont think fatalis is with g4

He counterclaims pod, both have accurate checks, both would have had to pick underboss, and we would have 0 town invests, doubtful

I am willing to lynch sino today g4 tomorrow, pod last day

banana you on board?

Sino dies tonight, why waste a lynch on him

K we know gaslight is scum

Mole is Sino or Fatalis. If one exists. The whole idea of lynching Fatalis would be to get a probable mole as I doubt Fatalis is Luciano

POD is not the mole though. If Fatalis were mole he shouldn't abstain a kill there IMO

Naw we should still lynch gaslight

[vote]g4slight[/vote]

K we know gaslight is scum

Mole is Sino or Fatalis. If one exists. The whole idea of lynching Fatalis would be to get a probable mole as I doubt Fatalis is Luciano

POD is not the mole though. If Fatalis were mole he shouldn't abstain a kill there IMO

Naw we should still lynch gaslight

-vote g4slight

Haha what am I saying, if gaslight were town then Kovath would be suited

Haha what am I saying, if gaslight were town then Kovath would be suited

[MENTION=28354]G4slight[/MENTION]

If you are somehow town you need to roleblock POD again tonight if we go with this Fatalis lynch

@G4slight

If you are somehow town you need to roleblock POD again tonight if we go with this Fatalis lynch

We are seven, if no mole we can afford a mislynch so I think I see your point now duck

[Unvote][/unvote]

We are seven, if no mole we can afford a mislynch so I think I see your point now duck

-unvote

Of scum is gaslight+POD and sino is FBI, we lose lynching Fatalis

But if Sino is FBI Fatalis is likely Luciano

Ugh

Of scum is gaslight+POD and sino is FBI, we lose lynching Fatalis

But if Sino is FBI Fatalis is likely Luciano

Ugh

[QUOTE=powerofdeath;611358]I honestly think hes more of lucanio than culted[/QUOTE]

You think Luciano coordinated with FBI to get you lynched?

Originally Posted by powerofdeath

I honestly think hes more of lucanio than culted

You think Luciano coordinated with FBI to get you lynched?

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611356]if theres a mole we lynch the mole or lose majority.

if theres no mole mislynch =still win

should we lynch our coperino fatalis then?[/QUOTE]

Are you suggesting lynching Fatalis, have gaslight roleblock POD, then lynch gaslight next day?

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

if theres a mole we lynch the mole or lose majority.

if theres no mole mislynch =still win

should we lynch our coperino fatalis then?

Are you suggesting lynching Fatalis, have gaslight roleblock POD, then lynch gaslight next day?

[QUOTE=Sino;611355]Ok, going with this, i'll have to rethink everything.

Now would PoD lie about his Fatalis check ?[/QUOTE]

Fatalis as FBI still means POD is a likely scum underboss

Still lynch gaslight and then either POD or Fatalis tomorrow

Originally Posted by Sino

Ok, going with this, i'll have to rethink everything.

Now would PoD lie about his Fatalis check ?

Fatalis as FBI still means POD is a likely scum underboss

Still lynch gaslight and then either POD or Fatalis tomorrow

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611351]fine

[vote]g4slight[/vote]

well take the safe approach and guarantee a hit, so boring.[/QUOTE]

If we mislynch it spells a loss fam

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

fine

-vote g4slight

well take the safe approach and guarantee a hit, so boring.

If we mislynch it spells a loss fam

[QUOTE=powerofdeath;611347]So i checked fatalis 2 nights ago, he turns out to be underboss, then there was a lynch before I even woke up, then i got roleblocked.

Not only that, voss tried to frame me, and right after tbat, fatalis cced me and tried to lynch me. Voss and Fatalis definitely had some kind of coordination.[/QUOTE]

Yeah we've been discussing Voss/Fatalis as a probable FBI scum pairing

Only bad news for you is that means Fatalis started out as a town underboss before recruited. Which means you're still likely scum cause town didn't start with 2 underbosses

Originally Posted by powerofdeath

So i checked fatalis 2 nights ago, he turns out to be underboss, then there was a lynch before I even woke up, then i got roleblocked.

Not only that, voss tried to frame me, and right after tbat, fatalis cced me and tried to lynch me. Voss and Fatalis definitely had some kind of coordination.

Yeah we've been discussing Voss/Fatalis as a probable FBI scum pairing

Only bad news for you is that means Fatalis started out as a town underboss before recruited. Which means you're still likely scum cause town didn't start with 2 underbosses

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611346][vote]powerofdeath[/vote][/QUOTE]

Sigh.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

-vote powerofdeath

Sigh.

[QUOTE=Sino;611339]He's Luciano



No, you weren't[/QUOTE]

Aha, I see your logic. Fatalis is targeted n1 and is Luciano so the recruit fails.

Originally Posted by Sino

He's Luciano



No, you weren't

Aha, I see your logic. Fatalis is targeted n1 and is Luciano so the recruit fails.

[QUOTE=Mesk514;611328]/unsign[/QUOTE]

I thought you two were pals?

Originally Posted by Mesk514

/unsign

I thought you two were pals?

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611327]I dont believe so because it would have told him a mole attacked to you, and he does not believe there to be one.[/QUOTE]

Shut up a second

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

I dont believe so because it would have told him a mole attacked to you, and he does not believe there to be one.

Shut up a second

Sino was I attacked last night?

Sino was I attacked last night?

[QUOTE=Sino;611315]Yes, he was the most likely to get recruited n1, which is why i think there's no mole[/QUOTE]

Why would he being likely to be recruited n1 = no mole?

Originally Posted by Sino

Yes, he was the most likely to get recruited n1, which is why i think there's no mole

Why would he being likely to be recruited n1 = no mole?

Who was Fatalis pushing yesterday? POD if I'm not mistaken right?

Fatalis is most likely to the the mole if there is one IMO

Who was Fatalis pushing yesterday? POD if I'm not mistaken right?

Fatalis is most likely to the the mole if there is one IMO

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611302]You realize we should be discussing if there is a mole and not waste our times with this right? The only way town can lose at this point is to a mole.

fatalis- could still be a mole
pod - probably luciano
bcd - least likely to be a mole, about 1-3%
sino - has to heal me to tonight, if I die confirms he is a mole, outside of that probably is the least likely to be a mole
RK - .01% chance to be a mole
g4slight - probably luciano


The lynch is going to be g4slight, but in the world where sino is a mole, town just loses

lynched:g4, night kill x2

1 luciano 1 mole, 2 town. - we sleep
rng?[/QUOTE]

If Sino is the mole it could be that Fatalis + Kovath were a scum team which is why he is convinced of Fatalis

That or Fatalis + gaslight. Either way he dies, so even if he's the mole he won't stop us from winning.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

You realize we should be discussing if there is a mole and not waste our times with this right? The only way town can lose at this point is to a mole.

fatalis- could still be a mole
pod - probably luciano
bcd - least likely to be a mole, about 1-3%
sino - has to heal me to tonight, if I die confirms he is a mole, outside of that probably is the least likely to be a mole
RK - .01% chance to be a mole
g4slight - probably luciano


The lynch is going to be g4slight, but in the world where sino is a mole, town just loses

lynched:g4, night kill x2

1 luciano 1 mole, 2 town. - we sleep
rng?

If Sino is the mole it could be that Fatalis + Kovath were a scum team which is why he is convinced of Fatalis

That or Fatalis + gaslight. Either way he dies, so even if he's the mole he won't stop us from winning.

[QUOTE=Sino;611301]Yes, do you want me to vote right now or should we wait a bit before we hammer ?

And i'm 100% dying tonight[/QUOTE]

I want to hear from Fatalis and POD first this time.

Originally Posted by Sino

Yes, do you want me to vote right now or should we wait a bit before we hammer ?

And i'm 100% dying tonight

I want to hear from Fatalis and POD first this time.

[QUOTE=Sino;611299]Yeah, at this point it would be fine for me, but i'd wish everyone here to agree with the lynches while i'm still alive[/QUOTE]

So lynch gaslight, then POD, then Fatalis. Agree to this plan?

Originally Posted by Sino

Yeah, at this point it would be fine for me, but i'd wish everyone here to agree with the lynches while i'm still alive

So lynch gaslight, then POD, then Fatalis. Agree to this plan?

[QUOTE=Sino;611296]Back to the main topic, Duck, do you agree with these lynches ?[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure he already said he wants to lynch POD over Fatalis. Give it a rest mate.

Originally Posted by Sino

Back to the main topic, Duck, do you agree with these lynches ?

Pretty sure he already said he wants to lynch POD over Fatalis. Give it a rest mate.

[QUOTE=Sino;611295]Because they chose to have the tailor confirmed as another role over the underboss

And about that PoD/Gaslight world

Both PoD and Gaslight actually confirmed themselves, PoD by knowing Shifty's role and Gaslight by blocking Kovath n2, they both agree about that.

Now, why in the world would scum chose NOT to get any tailor ?[/QUOTE]

Because look at what happened to Shifty. You pick tailor and you get gangbanged regardless of reads if an underboss finds you.

Originally Posted by Sino

Because they chose to have the tailor confirmed as another role over the underboss

And about that PoD/Gaslight world

Both PoD and Gaslight actually confirmed themselves, PoD by knowing Shifty's role and Gaslight by blocking Kovath n2, they both agree about that.

Now, why in the world would scum chose NOT to get any tailor ?

Because look at what happened to Shifty. You pick tailor and you get gangbanged regardless of reads if an underboss finds you.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;611292]wouldnt he have had to tell him in the anonymous chat? I am not sure if that would change anything or change voss's lastwill.

This assumes that our consort actually roleblocked nobody night1

and that town had 7 good roles/3anti town roles, which is too strong IMO.

Why doesn't kovath just hammer unknown, get tailored to underboss red and just play out as a cop and if he gets lynched, the other two underboss claims are fucked.[/QUOTE]

Mafia have a chat with each other in addition to the chat with the FBI

This raises a good point - if Kovath was underboss it makes more sense to tailor as red underboss instead of drug dealer

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

wouldnt he have had to tell him in the anonymous chat? I am not sure if that would change anything or change voss's lastwill.

This assumes that our consort actually roleblocked nobody night1

and that town had 7 good roles/3anti town roles, which is too strong IMO.

Why doesn't kovath just hammer unknown, get tailored to underboss red and just play out as a cop and if he gets lynched, the other two underboss claims are fucked.

Mafia have a chat with each other in addition to the chat with the FBI

This raises a good point - if Kovath was underboss it makes more sense to tailor as red underboss instead of drug dealer

[QUOTE=Sino;611290]i meant the plan is :

-Lynch Gaslight now

-Lynch Fatalis d5

-Lynch PoD d6

If Duck really wants, he can swap Fatalis' lynch with PoD's but i stand by my beliefs[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what I said. We aren't agreeing to Fatalis over POD at this time.

Originally Posted by Sino

i meant the plan is :

-Lynch Gaslight now

-Lynch Fatalis d5

-Lynch PoD d6

If Duck really wants, he can swap Fatalis' lynch with PoD's but i stand by my beliefs

That is exactly what I said. We aren't agreeing to Fatalis over POD at this time.

[QUOTE=Sino;611287]Yes, i agree with that plan, and i'd like all the other players to also agree with it[/QUOTE]

I never said the plan was to lynch Fatalis, I said it's POD/Fatalis

Gaslight goes first and nobody is going to disagree with that other than gaslight

Originally Posted by Sino

Yes, i agree with that plan, and i'd like all the other players to also agree with it

I never said the plan was to lynch Fatalis, I said it's POD/Fatalis

Gaslight goes first and nobody is going to disagree with that other than gaslight

[QUOTE=Sino;611284]Because i'm convinced he's the last Luciano, so between PoD and him, i'd rather not waste my time[/QUOTE]

That's great and all, but gaslight is getting lynched today first. So you're desperate but we literally cannot even lynch one of them for days (RL days)

Originally Posted by Sino

Because i'm convinced he's the last Luciano, so between PoD and him, i'd rather not waste my time

That's great and all, but gaslight is getting lynched today first. So you're desperate but we literally cannot even lynch one of them for days (RL days)

[QUOTE=Sino;611282][MENTION=28098]Borderline Crazy Dealers[/MENTION]
[MENTION=28435]SexyDucK[/MENTION]

Please guys[/QUOTE]

Why are you so desperate to push a Fatalis lynch tomorrow way ahead of schedule?

Originally Posted by Sino

@Borderline Crazy Dealers
@SexyDucK

Please guys

Why are you so desperate to push a Fatalis lynch tomorrow way ahead of schedule?

[QUOTE=Sino;611275]Because his behavior has been plain scummy.

I have the feeling he defended Kovath so hard because he KNEW Kovath would flip town[/QUOTE]

This is a good point that I'll take into consideration

Originally Posted by Sino

Because his behavior has been plain scummy.

I have the feeling he defended Kovath so hard because he KNEW Kovath would flip town

This is a good point that I'll take into consideration

[QUOTE=Sino;611273]Please start with Fatalis, i don't think the order would matter to you[/QUOTE]

I don't understand why you are so fixated on one over the other

Originally Posted by Sino

Please start with Fatalis, i don't think the order would matter to you

I don't understand why you are so fixated on one over the other

[QUOTE=Sino;611271]Indeed, but i'd still like to ask you for your personal opinion about who is the scum team.

And also, please ignore G4's flip, i'm asking you to 100% lynch Fatalis day 5 no matter the flip.[/QUOTE]

Fatalis or POD. 100%

Originally Posted by Sino

Indeed, but i'd still like to ask you for your personal opinion about who is the scum team.

And also, please ignore G4's flip, i'm asking you to 100% lynch Fatalis day 5 no matter the flip.

Fatalis or POD. 100%

If a mole does somehow exist:

Voss is unlikely to target me n1 since the plan was for Kovath to use their action on us.

Rurururu was also unlikely to be targeted since they claimed Beguiler.

But like I said a mole would have wanted to attack last night. They are not night immune so they would want to eliminate Luciano and avoid being night killed. Doesn't make much sense to not attack.

If Fatalis is the mole that's actually likely. Most likely mole if there is one is Fatalis or Sino

If a mole does somehow exist:

Voss is unlikely to target me n1 since the plan was for Kovath to use their action on us.

Rurururu was also unlikely to be targeted since they claimed Beguiler.

But like I said a mole would have wanted to attack last night. They are not night immune so they would want to eliminate Luciano and avoid being night killed. Doesn't make much sense to not attack.

If Fatalis is the mole that's actually likely. Most likely mole if there is one is Fatalis or Sino

The thing is that its so extremely unlikely to have two town Underbosses. One scum is in Kovath + gaslight, one is in POD/Fatalis. That's the most likely scenario.

Two town Underbosses seems too op to me. Two town underbosses + town kidnapper plus town Beguiler + doctor?

The thing is that its so extremely unlikely to have two town Underbosses. One scum is in Kovath + gaslight, one is in POD/Fatalis. That's the most likely scenario.

Two town Underbosses seems too op to me. Two town underbosses + town kidnapper plus town Beguiler + doctor?

Why would you heal me over Duck? He's confirmed town

Why would you heal me over Duck? He's confirmed town