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Also this puts PoD at L-1...

DO NOT HAMMER HIM until we all discuss....

Also this puts PoD at L-1...

DO NOT HAMMER HIM until we all discuss....

This will be my FINAL post most likey for the day will be out all day and then I work the night shift. Any more posts from this account will be from my lovely partner, Quick. :)

~AIVION

This will be my FINAL post most likey for the day will be out all day and then I work the night shift. Any more posts from this account will be from my lovely partner, Quick.

~AIVION

BCD... Interesting. Both Quick and I were debating hard between BCD and PoD... Luckily this means I was right xD

[vote]powerofdeath[/vote]

Also to your mole post, SD... I'm thinking there is no mole too... 1.) No more than 2 kills because I believe the mole has a factional night kill. 2.) I'm believing that Voss's Last will is actually ACCURATE and he did indeed target PoD Night 1 and it failed... It honestly makes sense if you think about it.

PoD Hasn't given us a single shred of clues AT ALL ever since he outlined the tailor claim. He's been dead silent the whole time.. Also a Consort + Underboss team is an incredibly powerful team and To be quite honest this is probably the top tier choice that anyone would make if they could choose a role. 3 DDs = 2 Underbosses most likely IMPOSSIBLE.

Let us discuss at our leisure town.

~AIVION

BCD... Interesting. Both Quick and I were debating hard between BCD and PoD... Luckily this means I was right xD

-vote powerofdeath

Also to your mole post, SD... I'm thinking there is no mole too... 1.) No more than 2 kills because I believe the mole has a factional night kill. 2.) I'm believing that Voss's Last will is actually ACCURATE and he did indeed target PoD Night 1 and it failed... It honestly makes sense if you think about it.

PoD Hasn't given us a single shred of clues AT ALL ever since he outlined the tailor claim. He's been dead silent the whole time.. Also a Consort + Underboss team is an incredibly powerful team and To be quite honest this is probably the top tier choice that anyone would make if they could choose a role. 3 DDs = 2 Underbosses most likely IMPOSSIBLE.

Let us discuss at our leisure town.

~AIVION

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;611431]That's not why we wanted to lynch Kovath. You are misrepping my slot by oversimplifying it.

We gave a long descriptive read of why we wanted to lynch Kovath. Finding it unlikely that there were three DDs was part of that.

Then yesterday after Fatalis revealed as Underboss, I SWITCHED MY VOTE onto POD as I found him the more scummy of the two underboss claim because it is EVEN LESS LIKELY that there are two underbosses.

THEN gaslight said Kovath lied and that he didn't roleblock Kovath night 1. THAT is when I switched back to Kovath as I found him more scummy than gaslight.

Don't misrep my positions that have been crystal clear.[/QUOTE]

I'm not misrepping shit. You admit yourself Having 3 Town DDs was part of your reasoning.

I would've expected you to flip your shit at Matt for having 3 Town DDs, but since you are not a lynch option you don't have to. I find that very convenient for you.

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

That's not why we wanted to lynch Kovath. You are misrepping my slot by oversimplifying it.

We gave a long descriptive read of why we wanted to lynch Kovath. Finding it unlikely that there were three DDs was part of that.

Then yesterday after Fatalis revealed as Underboss, I SWITCHED MY VOTE onto POD as I found him the more scummy of the two underboss claim because it is EVEN LESS LIKELY that there are two underbosses.

THEN gaslight said Kovath lied and that he didn't roleblock Kovath night 1. THAT is when I switched back to Kovath as I found him more scummy than gaslight.

Don't misrep my positions that have been crystal clear.

I'm not misrepping shit. You admit yourself Having 3 Town DDs was part of your reasoning.

I would've expected you to flip your shit at Matt for having 3 Town DDs, but since you are not a lynch option you don't have to. I find that very convenient for you.

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;611423]Yeah, okay mc derpington[/QUOTE]

Nope, yesterday you wanted to lynch Kovath because there was no way we had 3 DD, what happened to that argument? You are the one derping.

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

Yeah, okay mc derpington

Nope, yesterday you wanted to lynch Kovath because there was no way we had 3 DD, what happened to that argument? You are the one derping.

[QUOTE=Sino;611416]Exactly, you're giving scum an opportunity to hammer without hearing from everyone by putting someone at L-1[/QUOTE]

Let me put it to you this way - if anyone hammers before everyone has spoken they are tomorrow's lynch. BCD isn't that stupid to do that.

Originally Posted by Sino

Exactly, you're giving scum an opportunity to hammer without hearing from everyone by putting someone at L-1

Let me put it to you this way - if anyone hammers before everyone has spoken they are tomorrow's lynch. BCD isn't that stupid to do that.

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;611418]Yawn. Nobody is playing aggro anymore. Take a chill pill.[/QUOTE]

If it was up to me, you would be the lynch today.

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

Yawn. Nobody is playing aggro anymore. Take a chill pill.

If it was up to me, you would be the lynch today.

In what world does it matter if we have 2 Underboss when we already know what role everyone in the game is? No, we have a 1 and a 1 left over from a 1v1 and 1v2 and that is who we are lynching.

In what world does it matter if we have 2 Underboss when we already know what role everyone in the game is? No, we have a 1 and a 1 left over from a 1v1 and 1v2 and that is who we are lynching.

[QUOTE=Sino;611413]Yeah, and that's why she unvote

We shouldn't put anyone at L-1 so early....[/QUOTE]

Why not? Don't you think they are Scum? Only thing NOT to do at this point is Lynch until we hear from everyone. Nothing else matters because we know G4 is the Lynch today.

Originally Posted by Sino

Yeah, and that's why she unvote

We shouldn't put anyone at L-1 so early....

Why not? Don't you think they are Scum? Only thing NOT to do at this point is Lynch until we hear from everyone. Nothing else matters because we know G4 is the Lynch today.

[QUOTE=Sino;611409]You were the one to jump on the train[/QUOTE]

what is your point? I knew I was putting him at L-1.

Originally Posted by Sino

You were the one to jump on the train

what is your point? I knew I was putting him at L-1.

Like not hearing from POD yesterday was bad.

Like not hearing from POD yesterday was bad.

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;611398]I still want to hear from Fatalis before hammering gaslight

He should still be the lynch[/QUOTE]

OK, so NOW you want to hear from everyone before EOD, Hypocritical much?

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

I still want to hear from Fatalis before hammering gaslight

He should still be the lynch

OK, so NOW you want to hear from everyone before EOD, Hypocritical much?

K, got to page 195 (the thought of it), and I find it curious that BCD says how unlikely it is for there to be 2 Town Underbosses buts says nothing about it being unlikely there are 3 Town DD. Frankly I think the unlikely hood of there being 3 DD to be more unlikely than 2 UB.

In any case, the lynch today is

[vote]G4slight[/vote]

K, got to page 195 (the thought of it), and I find it curious that BCD says how unlikely it is for there to be 2 Town Underbosses buts says nothing about it being unlikely there are 3 Town DD. Frankly I think the unlikely hood of there being 3 DD to be more unlikely than 2 UB.

In any case, the lynch today is

-vote G4slight

[QUOTE=Cryptonic;610846]Now everyone is gonna choose Bulbasaur specifically to get Gylander lynched.[/QUOTE]

lel. I don't think I need to explain.

Originally Posted by Cryptonic

Now everyone is gonna choose Bulbasaur specifically to get Gylander lynched.

lel. I don't think I need to explain.

Hello, I know the thread's dead but I'm here for a bit if people are alive.

Also I'm backing up my partner's Kovath lynch today, I just don't see him being Town at this point.

I also back his Fatalis theory too.

Hello, I know the thread's dead but I'm here for a bit if people are alive.

Also I'm backing up my partner's Kovath lynch today, I just don't see him being Town at this point.

I also back his Fatalis theory too.

[QUOTE=Fatalis;610622][MENTION=28435]SexyDucK[/MENTION]

Do you think the consort is town or scum?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fatalis;610624]If Voss' last will is telling the truth, there's no mole today based on OoO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;610629][Vote]Kovath[/vote][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;610632]We hid behind Kovath.

[vote]Kovath[/vote][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fatalis;610643]He most likely didn't make up the consort claim, because G4slight is a consort.

I claim Underboss, N1 I was unfortunate enough to target BCD, that's why my first post in day 2 called out to BCD in particular. N2 - G4slight - consort[/QUOTE]

Just quoting these for shits.

Who investigates G4 and not Kovath here if he is Town?

Originally Posted by Fatalis

@SexyDucK

Do you think the consort is town or scum?

Originally Posted by Fatalis

If Voss' last will is telling the truth, there's no mole today based on OoO

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

-vote Kovath

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

We hid behind Kovath.

-vote Kovath

Originally Posted by Fatalis

He most likely didn't make up the consort claim, because G4slight is a consort.

I claim Underboss, N1 I was unfortunate enough to target BCD, that's why my first post in day 2 called out to BCD in particular. N2 - G4slight - consort

Just quoting these for shits.

Who investigates G4 and not Kovath here if he is Town?

And because POD claimed he was Luc means jack shit cuz anyone could say that.

And because POD claimed he was Luc means jack shit cuz anyone could say that.

Its actually better that sino doesn't claim if he is Doc fwiw.

Its actually better that sino doesn't claim if he is Doc fwiw.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610732]What will you say if both kovath and fatalis end up being town?[/QUOTE]

I will say I am horrible at this game.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

What will you say if both kovath and fatalis end up being town?

I will say I am horrible at this game.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610730]Is this aivion or quick?[/QUOTE]

Take a wild guess.

AIVION works nights on weekdays.

~Quick

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Is this aivion or quick?

Take a wild guess.

AIVION works nights on weekdays.

~Quick

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610727]Yes and he had the same reasoning for defending kovath as I, that he had no reason to counterclaim unknown. He mafia read kovath all of day 1 until this point, which I am aware mafia can do to one another.

I now think:

Kovath is actually a drug dealer, which faction, I dont know.
Both PoD/Fatalis are actually underbosses, fatalis town/pod scum
sino: probably a doctor


I think we need should learn more about g4 today, and set up who he should roleblock depending on the person who we lynch's flip.[/QUOTE]

Case and Point: Kovath and Fatalis are the lynch options today.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Yes and he had the same reasoning for defending kovath as I, that he had no reason to counterclaim unknown. He mafia read kovath all of day 1 until this point, which I am aware mafia can do to one another.

I now think:

Kovath is actually a drug dealer, which faction, I dont know.
Both PoD/Fatalis are actually underbosses, fatalis town/pod scum
sino: probably a doctor


I think we need should learn more about g4 today, and set up who he should roleblock depending on the person who we lynch's flip.

Case and Point: Kovath and Fatalis are the lynch options today.

To all who have a brain:

I'd like to point out that Fatalis did NOT want Kovath lynched yesterday.

To all who have a brain:

I'd like to point out that Fatalis did NOT want Kovath lynched yesterday.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610717]Its a good thing my duo has 4 votes then isnt it?

Like I said. I am open to hearing why PoD is town.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure I was the first one to mention that PODs claim isn't foolproof when he first said he had Shifty as Tailor.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Its a good thing my duo has 4 votes then isnt it?

Like I said. I am open to hearing why PoD is town.

I'm pretty sure I was the first one to mention that PODs claim isn't foolproof when he first said he had Shifty as Tailor.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610714]Making his previous post about why he checked who he did more credible.

If anybody sees flaws in his claim, please discuss.

I read fatalis as the best cult target, but he would have had to changed the order of his checks, faking the first one, and then made up his rationale he just recently posted. If anybody has thoughts I am interested.[/QUOTE]

He admits to doing an independent analysis of his scum reads based on what he consideres scummy behavior. Why would and underboss play like this? To me, if I was underboss, I would investigate CC, not go into analysis about who is Scummy. Kovath makes the perfect Underboss investigation IMO.


You all a stupid for believing an FBI last will.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Making his previous post about why he checked who he did more credible.

If anybody sees flaws in his claim, please discuss.

I read fatalis as the best cult target, but he would have had to changed the order of his checks, faking the first one, and then made up his rationale he just recently posted. If anybody has thoughts I am interested.

He admits to doing an independent analysis of his scum reads based on what he consideres scummy behavior. Why would and underboss play like this? To me, if I was underboss, I would investigate CC, not go into analysis about who is Scummy. Kovath makes the perfect Underboss investigation IMO.


You all a stupid for believing an FBI last will.

[QUOTE=Kovath;610708]Moles are investigated as their former roles to the Underboss. This makes no sense.

Also, no one would ever mole me, considering I've always been on the chopping block...[/QUOTE]

they could have moled you Night 1. you were not in that much danger day 1 and it could be nice to have a confirmable role on your team turned sour.

Originally Posted by Kovath

Moles are investigated as their former roles to the Underboss. This makes no sense.

Also, no one would ever mole me, considering I've always been on the chopping block...

they could have moled you Night 1. you were not in that much danger day 1 and it could be nice to have a confirmable role on your team turned sour.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610707]How does your role ever become a mole?

We are aware voss could have a mole, but the fact is both Fatalis and PoD claim a role that is likely only 1. Voss claiming PoD is mafia, does not cause Fatalis to counter claim.[/QUOTE]

1) They take a chance that I didn't hide behind anyone because it is obvious that that is what I should do. Thinking this is taken for grated and I don't hide (I had to talk to AIVION and tell them, yes, we are hiding)
2) It gets to late game and I get moled really late in the game.

As for the other garbage you are spewing, what makes you think Fatalis isn't a mole? They wanted me lynched day and has done shit all game.

But no, the choice for Lynch today are The DD claims and Me. I am NOT putting off a Kovath lynch another day when they should have been day 2 Maybe day 1.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

How does your role ever become a mole?

We are aware voss could have a mole, but the fact is both Fatalis and PoD claim a role that is likely only 1. Voss claiming PoD is mafia, does not cause Fatalis to counter claim.

1) They take a chance that I didn't hide behind anyone because it is obvious that that is what I should do. Thinking this is taken for grated and I don't hide (I had to talk to AIVION and tell them, yes, we are hiding)
2) It gets to late game and I get moled really late in the game.

As for the other garbage you are spewing, what makes you think Fatalis isn't a mole? They wanted me lynched day and has done shit all game.

But no, the choice for Lynch today are The DD claims and Me. I am NOT putting off a Kovath lynch another day when they should have been day 2 Maybe day 1.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610703]If you were a luciano, what role would you pick and why?[/QUOTE]

Tailor.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

If you were a luciano, what role would you pick and why?

Tailor.

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;610698]Town =/= Luciano, is his another slip?[/QUOTE]

How is this a slip, tell me cuz I don't see it. I don't slip as Mafia. I have never slipped as mafia. I am way more careful as mafia.

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

Town =/= Luciano, is his another slip?

How is this a slip, tell me cuz I don't see it. I don't slip as Mafia. I have never slipped as mafia. I am way more careful as mafia.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610694]The only person I tried to lynch that was town is shifty.

If you recall I wanted to move the train from shifty to voss, that didn't happen so I ended up being wrong with shifty. It happens.


If you think PoD is town, state why and convince me.[/QUOTE]

I think its POSSIBLE that POD is TOWN because Voss could very well have a mole in the game and is trying to frame POD so POD can't investigate people anyome, namely, roles like mine and Kovath who are very prone to be moles if you don't believe our claims.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

The only person I tried to lynch that was town is shifty.

If you recall I wanted to move the train from shifty to voss, that didn't happen so I ended up being wrong with shifty. It happens.


If you think PoD is town, state why and convince me.

I think its POSSIBLE that POD is TOWN because Voss could very well have a mole in the game and is trying to frame POD so POD can't investigate people anyome, namely, roles like mine and Kovath who are very prone to be moles if you don't believe our claims.

[QUOTE=Kovath;610691]Are you telling me you believe we have two Town Underbosses?

Also, Voss may or may not have been telling the truth, it doesn't change the possibility of whether PoD is Luciano or not, and based on other factors I think it's likely that PoD is in fact a Luciano.[/QUOTE]

What the ACTUAL FUCK are you talking about! No, I am not admitting to thinking we could have 2 Lucionos Underbosses. IDK what the fuck the Lucionos could be, the could be a number of things.

Originally Posted by Kovath

Are you telling me you believe we have two Town Underbosses?

Also, Voss may or may not have been telling the truth, it doesn't change the possibility of whether PoD is Luciano or not, and based on other factors I think it's likely that PoD is in fact a Luciano.

What the ACTUAL FUCK are you talking about! No, I am not admitting to thinking we could have 2 Lucionos Underbosses. IDK what the fuck the Lucionos could be, the could be a number of things.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610682]Actually I was wrong with shifty, I hard defended unknown to the grave.(The hammer was a joke to steal it from BCD)

I wanted voss lynched today, look at my last will I posted., and I even stated "the shifty and unknown trains feel like mislynches"

I have been fairly accurate this game.[/QUOTE]

So then you are just trying to lynch TOWN? IDGAF if you are right if you are lynching town!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Actually I was wrong with shifty, I hard defended unknown to the grave.(The hammer was a joke to steal it from BCD)

I wanted voss lynched today, look at my last will I posted., and I even stated "the shifty and unknown trains feel like mislynches"

I have been fairly accurate this game.

So then you are just trying to lynch TOWN? IDGAF if you are right if you are lynching town!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Kovath;610681]Janitor sanitizes roles, wtf are you talking about?

If Voss actually tried and failed to recruit PoD N1, then his last will is revealed upon death, and his death means that FBI is done.

So in that case, it's a toss-up if he wants Gambinos to win or Lucianos. Maybe he just hates PoD's playstyle, I dunno. Remember his little spiel about policy lynching him in D1?[/QUOTE]

Lets think about this: What if Voss actually did manage to recruit someone N1? Does no one think rationally around here?

Originally Posted by Kovath

Janitor sanitizes roles, wtf are you talking about?

If Voss actually tried and failed to recruit PoD N1, then his last will is revealed upon death, and his death means that FBI is done.

So in that case, it's a toss-up if he wants Gambinos to win or Lucianos. Maybe he just hates PoD's playstyle, I dunno. Remember his little spiel about policy lynching him in D1?

Lets think about this: What if Voss actually did manage to recruit someone N1? Does no one think rationally around here?

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610677]Tell me I suck post game when I am wrong, until then say why you think pod is a bad lynch.[/QUOTE]

You have been wrong TWICE already with your lynches.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Tell me I suck post game when I am wrong, until then say why you think pod is a bad lynch.

You have been wrong TWICE already with your lynches.

[QUOTE=Kovath;610670]Tailor is a role, not an alignment. It's also a role likely to be lynched by town.

What are you thinking about??[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking why the hell does Voss ACTUALLY GIVE AWAY who he tried to recruit? What if Lucionos have a God Damn Janitor?

Originally Posted by Kovath

Tailor is a role, not an alignment. It's also a role likely to be lynched by town.

What are you thinking about??

I'm thinking why the hell does Voss ACTUALLY GIVE AWAY who he tried to recruit? What if Lucionos have a God Damn Janitor?

[QUOTE=Kovath;610670]Tailor is a role, not an alignment. It's also a role likely to be lynched by town.

What are you thinking about??[/QUOTE]

Why the FUCK does POD come out and say "Shifty is Tailor"?

Originally Posted by Kovath

Tailor is a role, not an alignment. It's also a role likely to be lynched by town.

What are you thinking about??

Why the FUCK does POD come out and say "Shifty is Tailor"?

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610663]You are probably town, and we are not lynching the dd'ers today anymore.

PoD will be the lynch.

We need more discussion I think, but I can't see PoD surviving today.[/QUOTE]

I am NOT fucking listening to you today. We haven't even heard what POD has to say yet. I mean REALLY, you SUCK at this game.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

You are probably town, and we are not lynching the dd'ers today anymore.

PoD will be the lynch.

We need more discussion I think, but I can't see PoD surviving today.

I am NOT fucking listening to you today. We haven't even heard what POD has to say yet. I mean REALLY, you SUCK at this game.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610660]He was not tailored because POD risks shifty posting and saying "im mafioso" "im doctor"

IS this wrong?[/QUOTE]

No, its because POD's claim that Shifty was tailor was true, so either POD has to be Underboss OR POD is Lucionos and has a Tailor on their team. What Lucionos in their right minds gives Shifty a red here?

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

He was not tailored because POD risks shifty posting and saying "im mafioso" "im doctor"

IS this wrong?

No, its because POD's claim that Shifty was tailor was true, so either POD has to be Underboss OR POD is Lucionos and has a Tailor on their team. What Lucionos in their right minds gives Shifty a red here?

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;610658]I'm willing to hang POD over Fatalis

[Vote]powerofdeath [/vote]

Looks like Kovath survives another day[/QUOTE]

You are terrible for saying this, just thought I would let you know.

Its between the Two DD claims and me. One of us is going today.

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

I'm willing to hang POD over Fatalis

-vote powerofdeath

Looks like Kovath survives another day

You are terrible for saying this, just thought I would let you know.

Its between the Two DD claims and me. One of us is going today.

[QUOTE=Kovath;610647]I'd like to note that Fatalis townread PoD on Day 1.

If PoD is scum, he is a possibility for Luciano buddy over Sino. And then Fatalis hard-switched his read on me after I DD-claimed.[/QUOTE]

If POD is is Lucionsos, Shifty was tailored. I don't think so. Die scum.

Originally Posted by Kovath

I'd like to note that Fatalis townread PoD on Day 1.

If PoD is scum, he is a possibility for Luciano buddy over Sino. And then Fatalis hard-switched his read on me after I DD-claimed.

If POD is is Lucionsos, Shifty was tailored. I don't think so. Die scum.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610642]Why did you state this when your plan was for pod to check you to prove you are beguiler?[/QUOTE]

I see your point. Lack of foresight.

So I guess its between Me and Kovath then eh?

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Why did you state this when your plan was for pod to check you to prove you are beguiler?

I see your point. Lack of foresight.

So I guess its between Me and Kovath then eh?

We hid behind Kovath.

[vote]Kovath[/vote]

We hid behind Kovath.

-vote Kovath

[QUOTE=Borderline Crazy Dealers;610087]If everyone is going to go full retard, can we shift towards Kenshin?

Like, literally anything over a lynch on a Tailor purely because they are Tailor.[/QUOTE]

And with that I am going to mosey on over to my bed and go to sleep.

Originally Posted by Borderline Crazy Dealers

If everyone is going to go full retard, can we shift towards Kenshin?

Like, literally anything over a lynch on a Tailor purely because they are Tailor.

And with that I am going to mosey on over to my bed and go to sleep.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610081]WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FLIP IS THOUGH DUMBFUCK BECAUSE IF SHIFTY IS MAFIA HE TAILORED HIM, IF HES TOWN HE DIDNT TAILOR HIM AND WE SEE ORANGE REGARDLESS GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL[/QUOTE]

Ok, I see what you're saying. The ONLY thing I can really add is that this game is not played in a vacuum and I have a hunch that there are more PR in the game which may or may not influence things a bit.

Thoughts?

Please, I am being both serious and honest without anything else attached when I say Lynching lurkers is not always the correct play. Sometimes its best to lynch the people who will give you the most information. And I am honestly very curious why you are so stuck on specifically mislynching Kovath and not Shifty. I just don't understand the reason why you think its so much worse to mislynch Kovath over Shifty.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FLIP IS THOUGH DUMBFUCK BECAUSE IF SHIFTY IS MAFIA HE TAILORED HIM, IF HES TOWN HE DIDNT TAILOR HIM AND WE SEE ORANGE REGARDLESS GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL

Ok, I see what you're saying. The ONLY thing I can really add is that this game is not played in a vacuum and I have a hunch that there are more PR in the game which may or may not influence things a bit.

Thoughts?

Please, I am being both serious and honest without anything else attached when I say Lynching lurkers is not always the correct play. Sometimes its best to lynch the people who will give you the most information. And I am honestly very curious why you are so stuck on specifically mislynching Kovath and not Shifty. I just don't understand the reason why you think its so much worse to mislynch Kovath over Shifty.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610072]shifty confirms both of them [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]assuming[/COLOR][/B] Kovath isnt the Fbi agent.

Shifty town= kovath mafia and bCD town

SHifty mafia = kovath town/agent bcd mafia

ITS THE SAME CONFIRMED IN BOTH LYNCHES JUST A WORSE LYNCHORDER IF WE DO KOVATH HOLY FUCKING SHIT. This is why I hated playing with fucking aivion and his dumbfuck ***** friend in charmanders revenge. He was literally braindead on the clarence train.[/QUOTE]

OK, so like I just want to point out the bold red. I can't really think of what else to say.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

shifty confirms both of them assuming Kovath isnt the Fbi agent.

Shifty town= kovath mafia and bCD town

SHifty mafia = kovath town/agent bcd mafia

ITS THE SAME CONFIRMED IN BOTH LYNCHES JUST A WORSE LYNCHORDER IF WE DO KOVATH HOLY FUCKING SHIT. This is why I hated playing with fucking aivion and his dumbfuck ***** friend in charmanders revenge. He was literally braindead on the clarence train.

OK, so like I just want to point out the bold red. I can't really think of what else to say.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610066]Sure. For Shifty:

Town:
Kovath- Luciano
BCD - Gambino

Mafia:
Kovath - Gambino or FBI Agent
BCD - Luciano


I think this is correct ?[/QUOTE]

OK like I think Like I have a counter argument.

For Kovath:

Town:
BCD - Lucionos
Shifty - Lucionos

Lucionos:
BCD - Town
Shifty - Lucionos

FBI:
BCD - Lucionos
Shifty - Lucionos

Like I think bigger numbers are the better option here. Like I have accounted for a whole nother set of criteria because I am just that good.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

Sure. For Shifty:

Town:
Kovath- Luciano
BCD - Gambino

Mafia:
Kovath - Gambino or FBI Agent
BCD - Luciano


I think this is correct ?

OK like I think Like I have a counter argument.

For Kovath:

Town:
BCD - Lucionos
Shifty - Lucionos

Lucionos:
BCD - Town
Shifty - Lucionos

FBI:
BCD - Lucionos
Shifty - Lucionos

Like I think bigger numbers are the better option here. Like I have accounted for a whole nother set of criteria because I am just that good.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610041]EXACTLY WHICH IS WHY WE ALWAYS LYNCH SHIFTY TODAY. "then we know shifty is lucionos tailor" we only know this BY LYNCHING SHIFTY. Meaning we have to lynch him tomorrow. But if shifty flips luciano then we mislyncehd kovath.

By lynching shifty first, we dont mislynch between kovath and BCD, you arent this fucking dense right?[/QUOTE]

I feel like a broken record at this point.

I'm going to have to throw this right back at you and say what if we mislynch Shifty?

So Like the reasons here is like if we lynch Kovath then like we know the alignment of two people, but like, if we Lynch Shifty then we only know the alignment of like one person. So like you could say having a bigger number in this case is like the better option, cuz like both Kovath and Shifty are both like playing super anti town and like they are both like scummy, but like Shifty is only scummy for like inactivity and like Kovath is like scummy for a whole bunch of reasons and like I sorta feel like having a bigger number in this case is like the better option.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

EXACTLY WHICH IS WHY WE ALWAYS LYNCH SHIFTY TODAY. "then we know shifty is lucionos tailor" we only know this BY LYNCHING SHIFTY. Meaning we have to lynch him tomorrow. But if shifty flips luciano then we mislyncehd kovath.

By lynching shifty first, we dont mislynch between kovath and BCD, you arent this fucking dense right?

I feel like a broken record at this point.

I'm going to have to throw this right back at you and say what if we mislynch Shifty?

So Like the reasons here is like if we lynch Kovath then like we know the alignment of two people, but like, if we Lynch Shifty then we only know the alignment of like one person. So like you could say having a bigger number in this case is like the better option, cuz like both Kovath and Shifty are both like playing super anti town and like they are both like scummy, but like Shifty is only scummy for like inactivity and like Kovath is like scummy for a whole bunch of reasons and like I sorta feel like having a bigger number in this case is like the better option.

[QUOTE=Fatalis;610038]The thing is, the same arguments can be made for BCD. We need to look at these actions as town tells and see which one is more easily fabricated.

The problem is, as far as my ability to find reasoning, is that BOTH these actions are more town motivated than not.

BCD doesn't have to confirm himself to the GF if he is a scum DD. He could've just not claim his role / fake claim when the time comes.

The best course of action would be to lynch someone that is the most likely to be scum. As of the moment that someone is probably Shifty.

We DON'T need to resolve this DD vs DD thing today, what matters is that we hit scum.[/QUOTE]

Ok Ok I will humor you.

In what world is Kovaths play Pro-Town?

Yeah, I think that simply question pretty much destroys you shitty hypotheticals.

Originally Posted by Fatalis

The thing is, the same arguments can be made for BCD. We need to look at these actions as town tells and see which one is more easily fabricated.

The problem is, as far as my ability to find reasoning, is that BOTH these actions are more town motivated than not.

BCD doesn't have to confirm himself to the GF if he is a scum DD. He could've just not claim his role / fake claim when the time comes.

The best course of action would be to lynch someone that is the most likely to be scum. As of the moment that someone is probably Shifty.

We DON'T need to resolve this DD vs DD thing today, what matters is that we hit scum.

Ok Ok I will humor you.

In what world is Kovaths play Pro-Town?

Yeah, I think that simply question pretty much destroys you shitty hypotheticals.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;610010]It is not irrelevent, His two mafia reads are confirmed town. Meaning his scum hunting was non existent, leading towards the fact shifty is a mafia tailor, not a town tailor.

So yes him being tailor makes a flip on kovath useless.[/QUOTE]

See here is the beauty of Lynching Kovath. IF Kovath flips LUCIONOS DD it can mean 1 of 2 things (can you count that high? I bet you can).

1) Kovath is Lucionos DD

2) He was Tailored Lucionos DD

If Kovath is indeed Lucionos DD, then we have made the correct play and lynched scum.

If Kovath is TAILORED Lucionos DD then we know Shifty is Lucionos Tailor and by extension BCD because all they have done is push for Kovaths Lynch ALL FUCKING GAME!!!!

So you see, we are actually hoping that Kovath will be tailored as Lucionos DD because then we get a 2 for 1 deal... like at walmart, only filled more with dumb as fuck people.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

It is not irrelevent, His two mafia reads are confirmed town. Meaning his scum hunting was non existent, leading towards the fact shifty is a mafia tailor, not a town tailor.

So yes him being tailor makes a flip on kovath useless.

See here is the beauty of Lynching Kovath. IF Kovath flips LUCIONOS DD it can mean 1 of 2 things (can you count that high? I bet you can).

1) Kovath is Lucionos DD

2) He was Tailored Lucionos DD

If Kovath is indeed Lucionos DD, then we have made the correct play and lynched scum.

If Kovath is TAILORED Lucionos DD then we know Shifty is Lucionos Tailor and by extension BCD because all they have done is push for Kovaths Lynch ALL FUCKING GAME!!!!

So you see, we are actually hoping that Kovath will be tailored as Lucionos DD because then we get a 2 for 1 deal... like at walmart, only filled more with dumb as fuck people.

[QUOTE=SexyDucK;609978]we get no clarity because shifty is a tailor. why do you no comprende. Kovath flips orange drug dealer every time as both real town and real luciano[/QUOTE]

Ah good you understand what I am saying. I made a comment a while back, don't know if you remember it or not. i will quote it for you.

[QUOTE=Rurouni Kenshin;609718]IF Shifty is TALOR LUCIONOS and Kovath Flips LUCIONSOS DD THEN we know he WAS NOT seduced because BCDs CLAIM is true. Reason for this is that BCD would have to be LUCIONOS teamed with Shifty. Either way, Optimal play is to Lynch Kovath today.[/QUOTE]

Please logically prove this wrong if it is not correct, thx.

Originally Posted by SexyDucK

we get no clarity because shifty is a tailor. why do you no comprende. Kovath flips orange drug dealer every time as both real town and real luciano

Ah good you understand what I am saying. I made a comment a while back, don't know if you remember it or not. i will quote it for you.

Originally Posted by Rurouni Kenshin

IF Shifty is TALOR LUCIONOS and Kovath Flips LUCIONSOS DD THEN we know he WAS NOT seduced because BCDs CLAIM is true. Reason for this is that BCD would have to be LUCIONOS teamed with Shifty. Either way, Optimal play is to Lynch Kovath today.

Please logically prove this wrong if it is not correct, thx.

[QUOTE=Fatalis;609971]yes but i only have one reason for town reading kovath and its a damn good one

HE CC'D UNKNOWN WHEN UNKNOWN WAS L-2

why would a luciano DD CC someone that he must know would flip town DD, you argue he has the 2 role of the same alignment argument but we all know how well that's gonna work out (spoiler : badly)[/QUOTE]

Gunna have to throw this right back at you. Why would Kovath CC Unknown when he was L-2 as Town.

Conclusion: Kovaths play was beyond shitty and they need to eat rope so we can get some much needed clarity that has offered us a goose egg this whole day.

Originally Posted by Fatalis

yes but i only have one reason for town reading kovath and its a damn good one

HE CC'D UNKNOWN WHEN UNKNOWN WAS L-2

why would a luciano DD CC someone that he must know would flip town DD, you argue he has the 2 role of the same alignment argument but we all know how well that's gonna work out (spoiler : badly)

Gunna have to throw this right back at you. Why would Kovath CC Unknown when he was L-2 as Town.

Conclusion: Kovaths play was beyond shitty and they need to eat rope so we can get some much needed clarity that has offered us a goose egg this whole day.