S-FM 212: Paired Mafia

[MattZed]

Yeah, you're still scum and you should stop calling true statements and misunderstandings misreps.

Talking to you this game is like talking to a brick wall. And I thought Calix could be frustrating.

[MattZed]

It was a fake claim. I don't actually have a night action.

You still haven't explained why you claimed that paired roles had night chats while you had a paired role.

[MiniZed]

Talking to you this game is like talking to a brick wall. And I thought Calix could be frustrating.

That has been how I've felt about her all game.

[Eggy]

-unvote

Prince and Matt, feedback and roles.

prince is a sheriff that means that mattzed has to be doctor to have any useful feedback and even then not very useful. He could be a another role who was targetted by SK or mafia nightkill

[MiniZed]

prince is a sheriff that means that mattzed has to be doctor to have any useful feedback and even then not very useful. He could be a another role who was targetted by SK or mafia nightkill

He didn't utter the words Sheriff, did he?

[MattZed]

I'm fine with Orpz unless we hear a counterclaim.

-vote Frog

[Orpz]

You still haven't explained why you claimed that paired roles had night chats while you had a paired role.

Quick sends out rolecards in the form of a Night Chat. Since I didn't know that paired meant existence, I thought I just didn't have anyone to talk to. I also didn't think it was weird that rolecards were sent out since if you're in a night chat with someone, you would know their role anyways from the Special Mechanics -- hence I didn't think my rolecard being in there was weird.

[Eggy]

He didn't utter the words Sheriff, did he?

he said he knew there was a miller n the gane which means he is sheriff or he is sheriff. no possible other option

[MattZed]

Quick sends out rolecards in the form of a Night Chat. Since I didn't know that paired meant existence, I thought I just didn't have anyone to talk to. I also didn't think it was weird that rolecards were sent out since if you're in a night chat with someone, you would know their role anyways from the Special Mechanics -- hence I didn't think my rolecard being in there was weird.

You didn't think "oh wait, why would Sheriff share a night chat with all Millars, thus defeating the purpose of Millars being negative utility"?

[Orpz]

I'm fine with Orpz unless we hear a counterclaim.

-vote Frog

I'm fairly certain Superjack is a 3P.

-vote Superjack

[SuperJack]

prince is a sheriff that means that mattzed has to be doctor to have any useful feedback and even then not very useful. He could be a another role who was targetted by SK or mafia nightkill

If there is a Sheriff/Miller in group 2.

Then there is no Doctor in group 2.

[Orpz]

You didn't think "oh wait, why would Sheriff share a night chat with all Millars, thus defeating the purpose of Millars being negative utility"?

I didn't think too much into it. It didn't seem that important at the time.

[MiniZed]

MattZed should be voted then if he faked having information:

[Eggy]

I'm fine with Orpz unless we hear a counterclaim.

-vote Frog

mattzed what is your info? you are not a sheriff so how did u possibly get info?

[MattZed]

I'm fairly certain Superjack is a 3P.

-vote Superjack

You mean, you specifically think he's an executioner with you as a target?

I would rather lynch a mafia than executioner. If you thought he were SK, it's good to keep Titus alive and make sure two roles don't leave the game at the same time, but otherwise we're just eliminating someone Mafia wanted dead anyways.

[Eggy]

mattzed is obv scum at this point what info could he possibly have? your right he is not doctor was just trying to see what he would claim

[ThePrince]

@ThePrince please return this is the worst time to leave.

Sheriff, I investigated SuperJack and got a town result. I hinted that I knew there was a miller in the game since Sheriff is paired with Miller.

[SuperJack]

Here we go:

MZ claims "Feedback"

Prince Claims "SuperJack is town (Based on either Mechanics/Feedback).
Prince claims a Miller exists.

Orpz claims "Miller"




These are the claims (Down to Basics)

[MiniZed]

MattZed is done.

[ThePrince]

-unvote

[MattZed]

My feedback is that I was attacked last night.

[MattZed]

Alright, let me be completely frank:

I am an executioner with Frog as my target.

I'm revealing because I'm pretty sure the mechanics just made Frog scum.

[Eggy]

Sheriff, I investigated SuperJack and got a town result. I hinted that I knew there was a miller in the game since Sheriff is paired with Miller.

exactly okay yea so mattzed is scum or 3P 100% everyone vote him lets get this over with

[SuperJack]

-unvote

Should be clear now.

@MattZed

Post your claim now, since everyone is now revealed.

[SuperJack]

Alright, let me be completely frank:

I am an executioner with Frog as my target.

I'm revealing because I'm pretty sure the mechanics just made Frog scum.

Matches his "Information" Fact.

[Eggy]

-vote frog

this is game over basically. just need to find the scum from group 1

[MattZed]

(specifically, my feedback said that I lost HP, but I was not told how much)

[MiniZed]

I'm climbing DOCTOR because I give no fucks. I healed MattZed.

[Eggy]

frog is scum GG this game is so unbalanced mass claim wins the game everytime

[SuperJack]

This question should be public because it -may- effect how this goes.

@Quick Does Executioner win end the game?

[MattZed]

I'm climbing DOCTOR because I give no fucks. I healed MattZed.

LOL nope. You're scum. My feedback was that I lost HP, not that I was attacked.

gg everyone!

[Orpz]

You mean, you specifically think he's an executioner with you as a target?

I would rather lynch a mafia than executioner. If you thought he were SK, it's good to keep Titus alive and make sure two roles don't leave the game at the same time, but otherwise we're just eliminating someone Mafia wanted dead anyways.

Yes. My reasoning was that
1) Executioner and Abductor exist.
2) Executioner has a shittier time winning in this game because of no Jesterfication mechanic
3) Miller is a lynchbait role
4) Executioner probably has Miller as target.

[Eggy]

I'm climbing DOCTOR because I give no fucks. I healed MattZed.

so how did he lose HP then?

[MattZed]

This question should be public because it -may- effect how this goes.

@Quick Does Executioner win end the game?

I have asked in my quick topic and been informed that my win merely eliminates me from the game. (and my target dying by other means does th same)

Think about it: Since my target can be scum, why would my win end the game? This would be completely unfair to town.

[Orpz]

LOL nope. You're scum. My feedback was that I lost HP, not that I was attacked.

gg everyone!

Minized on suicide watch

[MiniZed]

LOL nope. You're scum. My feedback was that I lost HP, not that I was attacked.

gg everyone!

How is that physically possible?

@Quick if I heal MattZed will he lose hp if he is attacked or will I prevent it?

[ThePrince]

Well, that escalated quickly.

-vote Frog

[Eggy]

game over minized is last scum mattzed could not have lost hp if he targetted him as doctor

[MattZed]

How is that physically possible?

@Quick if I heal MattZed will he lose hp if he is attacked or will I prevent it?

Okay I will say to be fair that the setup isn't clear if doctors can heal SK attacks, or just mafia. (I think actually this may mean I was attacked by newb SK if you're doc)

[Quick]

I can.

Also, I'm more curious about what you mean by it's impossible. I checked the setup again and there's literally nothing that says it's impossible. The closest I can find is "something is paired with something" in the Special Mechanics which I can understand might be interpreted as "these roles exist together". I understood it as "These roles share a night chat".

Host, what did you mean by this?

Look at all the other roles that are paired together.. If Sheriff was paired with anything other than millar, it would be weird since millar is pointless if there is no sheriff.

[Orpz]

Let's not get too honeydicked here.

We need to sort out the case with Titus. Why did the Abductor fail to cuck Titus?

[MiniZed]

game over minized is last scum mattzed could not have lost hp if he targetted him as doctor

I'm calling you out as evil now. You jumped to that conclusion.

[MiniZed]

My claim should be obvious as fuck. There must be a confusion error but when she claimed 1hp Townie I immediately confirmed her.

[Orpz]

My claim should be obvious as fuck. There must be a confusion error but when she claimed 1hp Townie I immediately confirmed her.

Please link to this post.

[MiniZed]

@Quick can you answer my question?

[Quick]

Here is Orpz painting MZ as scummy for not understanding key parts of the setup, and missing day posts.









Here is Orpz not understanding key parts of the setup, and missing day posts.





Here are the Answers

That is exactly the one color you are not supposed to use.

@SuperJack has been warned for using MY color.

[SuperJack]

MattZed - Executioner
OrpZ - Malicious Savior
Frog - Scum
SuperJack - Citizen
ThePrince - Sheriff
Titus - 1HP Townie
MiniZed Doctor

Duck/Yuki/Eggy - Smell

[Eggy]

Okay I will say to be fair that the setup isn't clear if doctors can heal SK attacks, or just mafia. (I think actually this may mean I was attacked by newb SK if you're doc)

I am 2hp townie and was attacked by so it has to have been from SK otherwise I would be dead. Yuki is last scum duck is neutral GG I beleive minized it would be retarded for him to pull a claim like that

[SuperJack]

That is exactly the one color you are not supposed to use.

@SuperJack has been warned for using MY color.

Omg lol he caught me >->

[Orpz]

The struggle here is,

MattZed is 100% confirmed 3P
Frog is 50/50 with Superjack.

While lynching MattZed isn't necessary for victory, it would be nice to merge the group chats so that our lynches aren't limited. Thus, lynching him has a lot of strategic benefit.