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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Let me ask you something. Let's say hypothetically you are town, yes? Let's also hypothetically you trolled and day killed on d1. Should you be killed?

    The answer to this is NO. Lynching town is ANTI-TOWN. It baffles me how you guys don't understand this
    Lynching a townie just cuz he acted anti-town is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me lol

    It means you didn't want to figure out his alignment because "tis too difficult" so you just set a barrier past which you do not feel bad if you are wrong

    I'd like to play this game properly and actually try to understand these things and people's mentality and etc which is what this game is about.

    In the end, you have to accept that trolling is part of the game and it happens lol
    But how do you know the person is town if the supposed troll is likely just scum? Plus, we as a community should simply not accept such play from townies. That's called punitive meta. Remember our conversations about it 3 years ago? If anything, this could be you TMIing Ceko as town.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    This policy lynch argument would be valid if ceko still had access to a day kill, but he doesn't anymore lol
    I am not saying ceko is town, but killing him for just "he did thing which is bad to town so therefore he is bad" is stupid.
    He did something that makes Z E R O sense from a town PoV. The only way he does it and is town is if he griefed the game, which should not be assumed
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  5. ISO #155

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    But how do you know the person is town if the supposed troll is likely just scum? Plus, we as a community should simply not accept such play from townies. That's called punitive meta. Remember our conversations about it 3 years ago? If anything, this could be you TMIing Ceko as town.
    okay, i dont like this, why r u ALSO attacking oberon?

  6. ISO #156

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    But how do you know the person is town if the supposed troll is likely just scum? Plus, we as a community should simply not accept such play from townies. That's called punitive meta. Remember our conversations about it 3 years ago? If anything, this could be you TMIing Ceko as town.
    By talking to them
    How did Distorted know you were Citizen in that game where you CC'd a fucking CONFIRMED TOWN ROLE as a Citizen?

    Also I'd rather play the game than engage in punitive meta, which doesn't sound that interesting to me and is besides the point of the game
    If I can win with a troll in the game because I figured out they were trolling and didn't surrender my intellect to emotion I would feel a lot better about myself than if I lost because "fuck trolls"

  7. ISO #157

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    He did something that makes Z E R O sense from a town PoV. The only way he does it and is town is if he griefed the game, which should not be assumed
    You are assuming he didn't grief the game. Why would you make that assumption, especially considering the nature of the setup?

    Also it was you that posted in the setup thread ages back that this game can be fun both as a troll game and as a regular game. You're now insisting it has to be taken as a regular game. WHY?

    I certainly didn't expect anyone to hammer on D1, and took it as a normal game, but is this really that far outside of something ceko would do as Town? This reminds me of plotato skipping dudes' songs on Discord and laughing to himself IRL

    Not that far-fetched as you make it out to be IMO, this is how the previous setup ended

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    He did something that makes Z E R O sense from a town PoV. The only way he does it and is town is if he griefed the game, which should not be assumed
    i thought this was wildwild WEST, WHY TF is everyone dissecting my fuckin troll shoot

    like, i am sorry but i did not want lag in this game anyways,

    if u guys dont randomly shoot, ur not playing the setup the way it is meant to be played. EVERY0NE HAS A DAYKILL FOR A REASON L0L, FUCK JUST HAVE FUN,
    fuckfuck, fuck

  10. ISO #160

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    i thought this was wildwild WEST, WHY TF is everyone dissecting my fuckin troll shoot

    like, i am sorry but i did not want lag in this game anyways,

    if u guys dont randomly shoot, ur not playing the setup the way it is meant to be played. EVERY0NE HAS A DAYKILL FOR A REASON L0L, FUCK JUST HAVE FUN,
    fuckfuck, fuck
    Most certainly not and I don't appreciate you repeating the same words as me and by the way you are still in my lynch pool

  11. ISO #161

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    You are assuming he didn't grief the game. Why would you make that assumption, especially considering the nature of the setup?

    Also it was you that posted in the setup thread ages back that this game can be fun both as a troll game and as a regular game. You're now insisting it has to be taken as a regular game. WHY?

    I certainly didn't expect anyone to hammer on D1, and took it as a normal game, but is this really that far outside of something ceko would do as Town? This reminds me of plotato skipping dudes' songs on Discord and laughing to himself IRL

    Not that far-fetched as you make it out to be IMO, this is how the previous setup ended
    He is playing on the "but it was a fun shot" here. There is no world where we can safely trust him, as it's very easy to just play on this as scum. And EVEN if you're playing for a fun game, shooting people who haven't spoken yet is not exactly "fun"...

    Also, one shouldn't assume rulebreaking, since rulebreaking is technically not part of the game lol. It's a dangerous way to approach the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  12. ISO #162

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    He is playing on the "but it was a fun shot" here. There is no world where we can safely trust him, as it's very easy to just play on this as scum. And EVEN if you're playing for a fun game, shooting people who haven't spoken yet is not exactly "fun"...

    Also, one shouldn't assume rulebreaking, since rulebreaking is technically not part of the game lol. It's a dangerous way to approach the game.
    I'm not making any assumptions. You're the one assuming he didn't break the rules. Technically if anyone is in the wrong here it's you lol

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    we should lynch everyone who says “pls do not shoot”

    ok, not rly, but seriously WTF?!? anyways this does N0T MATTER!!!!

    mm dropped from null to possible scum, note that he hasnt commented at all on channelminer! mm shud know why, so this is QUITE odd from MM

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yes, but I was basically a noob and tried a bad gambit. If I had done what Zeus said, I wouldn't have CC'd Crier and wouldn't have ruined things xD.

    And yes, you always can play suboptimally, just like you always have a choice when you do anything: RADICAL FREEDOM! But if you want to achieve a goal that consists in winning the game, you shouldn't do that.
    Distorted looked at it non-mechanically and tried to actually read you and did figure out you were town in the end, so this argument is invalid lol
    Want to know who followed this policy Lynch gut "always Lynch anti-town"? Lenneth! What did he do? He lynched 2 townies in a row!

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    u P0CKET AND ATTAK ME AT THE SAME TIME, HMM
    I'm not pocketing you. I hate how people are just dead set on this lynch because of "numbers". If they want that kind of certainty they should be playing Scrabble not Mafia

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I'm not making any assumptions. You're the one assuming he didn't break the rules. Technically if anyone is in the wrong here it's you lol
    I wasn't saying you shouldn't assume something, but rather that you should assume people are playing without cheating or straight up playing against their wincon intentionally. I'll grant you that I was unclear, though.

    And I guess "but I thought the game was a troll game!!" is..... well, it's a shit defense, but it has some merit, considering the setup.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    And yes it's possible we just gave him excellent WIFOM by defending him excessively but I blame you for being bloodthirsty and wanting to lynch because MM.exe stopped working
    You shouldn't. This is very informative, and I think you're honestly town thinking you can avoid a mislynch; if you're scum, I honestly fail to see why the heck you would put your own life at risk to defend him lol. Hell, you might even be right. But there is absolutely no world in which we can bring this guy to LYLO. And the nice thing with lynching him is that he cannot shoot us to avoid the lynch, meaning we get to see a standard-ish wagon.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  19. ISO #169

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    we should lynch everyone who says “pls do not shoot”

    ok, not rly, but seriously WTF?!? anyways this does N0T MATTER!!!!

    mm dropped from null to possible scum, note that he hasnt commented at all on channelminer! mm shud know why, so this is QUITE odd from MM
    ChannelMiner is playing his first game, and the only thing he could say before you monster murdered Lag in cold blood was "hello my fellow Americans"...

    I am so very glad the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution doesn't allow you to have more than one gun in this game
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I wasn't saying you shouldn't assume something, but rather that you should assume people are playing without cheating or straight up playing against their wincon intentionally. I'll grant you that I was unclear, though.

    And I guess "but I thought the game was a troll game!!" is..... well, it's a shit defense, but it has some merit, considering the setup.


    You shouldn't. This is very informative, and I think you're honestly town thinking you can avoid a mislynch; if you're scum, I honestly fail to see why the heck you would put your own life at risk to defend him lol. Hell, you might even be right. But there is absolutely no world in which we can bring this guy to LYLO. And the nice thing with lynching him is that he cannot shoot us to avoid the lynch, meaning we get to see a standard-ish wagon.
    Ceko can defend himself by trying to play the game like a townie. That will help us get a read on him.
    If he does so satisfactorily we will not lynch him unless we literally have no targets. We have plenty of things to go around on, such as Martin, yourself and Zeus, neither of whom are particularly townie. Heck, from your perspectives even I can be scum. I'm pretty fucking sure I could say this as scum too, at least in the mod, where I always act towny irrespective of alignment (as Mafia I always bus my teammates if they're retarded. I'm not carrying dead weight and outing myself just cuz they got found out).

    If through his interactions we become convinced he is scum then we will lynch him. But I am not policy lynching him just because.

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I wasn't saying you shouldn't assume something, but rather that you should assume people are playing without cheating or straight up playing against their wincon intentionally. I'll grant you that I was unclear, though.

    And I guess "but I thought the game was a troll game!!" is..... well, it's a shit defense, but it has some merit, considering the setup.

    You shouldn't. This is very informative, and I think you're honestly town thinking you can avoid a mislynch; if you're scum, I honestly fail to see why the heck you would put your own life at risk to defend him lol. Hell, you might even be right. But there is absolutely no world in which we can bring this guy to LYLO. And the nice thing with lynching him is that he cannot shoot us to avoid the lynch, meaning we get to see a standard-ish wagon.
    You should not be making these kinds of assumptions if you want to win the game tho

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Ceko can defend himself by trying to play the game like a townie. That will help us get a read on him.
    If he does so satisfactorily we will not lynch him unless we literally have no targets. We have plenty of things to go around on, such as Martin, yourself and Zeus, neither of whom are particularly townie. Heck, from your perspectives even I can be scum. I'm pretty fucking sure I could say this as scum too, at least in the mod, where I always act towny irrespective of alignment (as Mafia I always bus my teammates if they're retarded. I'm not carrying dead weight and outing myself just cuz they got found out).

    If through his interactions we become convinced he is scum then we will lynch him. But I am not policy lynching him just because.
    Hmm

    REALLY looks like oberon is mafia, hm?

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Ceko can defend himself by trying to play the game like a townie. That will help us get a read on him.
    If he does so satisfactorily we will not lynch him unless we literally have no targets. We have plenty of things to go around on, such as Martin, yourself and Zeus, neither of whom are particularly townie. Heck, from your perspectives even I can be scum. I'm pretty fucking sure I could say this as scum too, at least in the mod, where I always act towny irrespective of alignment (as Mafia I always bus my teammates if they're retarded. I'm not carrying dead weight and outing myself just cuz they got found out).

    If through his interactions we become convinced he is scum then we will lynch him. But I am not policy lynching him just because.
    He doesn't really seem to be planning to play like a townie...

    And sure, you could say this as scum, because absolute certainty with behavioral tells doesn't exist. RADICAL FREEDOM!!! Only mechanics can give absolute certainty. We don't have cop checks here, though, so we have to rely on behavioral tells. And here, I think you're town, whether you like it or not

    also I am most obviously town
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    He doesn't really seem to be planning to play like a townie...

    And sure, you could say this as scum, because absolute certainty with behavioral tells doesn't exist. RADICAL FREEDOM!!! Only mechanics can give absolute certainty. We don't have cop checks here, though, so we have to rely on behavioral tells. And here, I think you're town, whether you like it or not

    also I am most obviously town
    There are no mechanics to speak of in this game

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    There are no mechanics to speak of in this game
    Exactly, which is why your "but this is all possible to do scum" stuff doesn't mean much: we have to work with uncertainty. The most certain things in this game are Ceko's shot being horribad and your defense of him being probably towny (arguably)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  32. ISO #182

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Exactly, which is why your "but this is all possible to do scum" stuff doesn't mean much: we have to work with uncertainty. The most certain things in this game are Ceko's shot being horribad and your defense of him being probably towny (arguably)
    I disagree it being horribad means he is scum. I certainly don't think it's alignment indicative either way lol

    Ceko's slot is so terrible though that we should leave him for last and look for "information" on real unknowns like the people I just mentioned

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I disagree it being horribad means he is scum. I certainly don't think it's alignment indicative either way lol

    Ceko's slot is so terrible though that we should leave him for last and look for "information" on real unknowns like the people I just mentioned
    At best, he's a question mark we will never be able to trust, and that is exactly what we do NOT want to bring to LYLO...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  35. ISO #185

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    At best, he's a question mark we will never be able to trust, and that is exactly what we do NOT want to bring to LYLO...
    No, YOU are question marks. Ceko has done something extremely anti-town. With a person like Ceko you leave them around until LyLo in case other lynches don't flip scum, that way we can at least have a buffer if we fuck up.

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    No, YOU are question marks. Ceko has done something extremely anti-town. With a person like Ceko you leave them around until LyLo in case other lynches don't flip scum, that way we can at least have a buffer if we fuck up.
    That means you think Ceko is scum after all...? If so, then let's just lynch him RIGHT NOW and remove vote power from scum?
    ...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  37. ISO #187

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    That means you think Ceko is scum after all...? If so, then let's just lynch him RIGHT NOW and remove vote power from scum?
    ...
    Nope but if we have 0 scum deaths 3-4 days from now it will become much more likely that the guy who hammered town on d1 after 10 minutes was mafia

  38. ISO #188

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    someone should just shoot me, i am town but this is madness . there’s so much wifom for what should be a fun setup
    This does sound pretty fake tho

    Reminds me of what Mike said in his literal first post as evil one game
    "carry me, I have no clue who it could be at this point"

    Slaol was also in that game if @Marshmallow Marshall remembers

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    hey guys
    hi

    CAN YOU PLEASE NOT COMMIT MURDER

    Apart from this, thoughts on Ceko and the whole thing surrounding him?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  41. ISO #191

    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    This does sound pretty fake tho

    Reminds me of what Mike said in his literal first post as evil one game
    "carry me, I have no clue who it could be at this point"

    Slaol was also in that game if @Marshmallow Marshall remembers
    Oh god. No, I think I suppressed those memories xD.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    Why shouldn't i shoot martin
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Because murder is immoral
    ^

    And most importantly, because Ceko murdered Lag without letting them speak, which is horrible

    Why would you shoot Martin if murder weren't immoral and anti-town at this point, though?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I don't see how it's the same, though. Mike was basically saying "pocket us and we will follow", whereas Ceko's post is basically self-contempt applied to Mafia lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I don't see how it's the same, though. Mike was basically saying "pocket us and we will follow", whereas Ceko's post is basically self-contempt applied to Mafia lol
    Yeah this is the feeling it gave me at the time, but after the fact I don't really see the similarity anymore lol

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    I see word salads
    I'm glad we're in either of those words:
    - I'm not dumb and Martin really prepared some word salad for us to eat
    - We're both dumb

    In all seriousness, though, what do you think he's trying to achieve?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I'm glad we're in either of those words:
    - I'm not dumb and Martin really prepared some word salad for us to eat
    - We're both dumb

    In all seriousness, though, what do you think he's trying to achieve?
    Dinner

 

 

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