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  1. ISO #2451

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Irrelevant.

    If #2 vanishes we are pretty sure Voss is town. If he doesn't we lynch him for the reset.
    We lynch a scum or we find a town.

    Im fairly confident in a few players and we should have a good town block in that case
    How are we pretty sure Voss is town...? Only the Judge and the Defendant cannot be the Insane Defense Attorney's target. The Defendant is dead. It gives us no info on Voss. Or did I miss something?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  2. ISO #2452

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Nvm. We don't need to vote Voss today, as forced guilty doesn't count as a mislynch.
    I'm fine with a MM/Mike vote today.
    . . . . . .. ... .. . . .... . . . ......................... . . . .. . .. ... . . .... . . ...

    What about no?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  3. ISO #2453
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Spoiler : cvote :
    MarshmallowMarshall,LightYagami,Mike,Gyrlander,Ken ny,Voss,Distorted,Numbertwo,Magoroth,

  4. ISO #2454

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    the nature of No2's claim is such that he literally cannot be anything else other than what he claims to be, unless he's courtroom Bomber and Voss is scum, and he guessed that (somehow? even then it doesn't really make much sense). the objectively correct thing to do today is to trial Voss and inno.
    Nope, not today, tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    what scares me is lets say we do guilty a town today. then we put Voss up to vote inno tomorrow. can't the MAfia use an auto guilty and win?
    The solution is simple. Get scum today.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  5. ISO #2455

  6. ISO #2456

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Nope, not today, tomorrow



    The solution is simple. Get scum today.
    ^ we get scum today, and right now I'm seriously for a Kenny lynch. I wanted to pressure Gyrlander but it doesn't do shit so... lol

    Spoiler : cvote :
    Kenny,Gyrlander,Voss,Mike,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Ma goroth,Distorted,MarshmallowMarshall,
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  7. ISO #2457

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    -vote Distored
    Are you trolling?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  8. ISO #2458

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    How are we pretty sure Voss is town...? Only the Judge and the Defendant cannot be the Insane Defense Attorney's target. The Defendant is dead. It gives us no info on Voss. Or did I miss something?
    If Aivion put us in an 8v5 setup with only 7 voting town and 0 night actions he should be banned from hosting.

    Ive said from early on that the insane attorney is our "sheriff"

  9. ISO #2459

  10. ISO #2460

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    If Aivion put us in an 8v5 setup with only 7 voting town and 0 night actions he should be banned from hosting.

    Ive said from early on that the insane attorney is our "sheriff"
    Im.basically just assuming our host didnt give us an unwinnable scenario

  11. ISO #2461

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    If Aivion put us in an 8v5 setup with only 7 voting town and 0 night actions he should be banned from hosting.

    Ive said from early on that the insane attorney is our "sheriff"
    ... This is a very very strange assumption... I don't say it's impossible, but it's irrelevant or at least not relevant enough to base a lock town read on someone AT ALL. 8v5 would be balanced since there's no nightkill and still a confirmed guy, along with Condorcet and Trial system which are pro-town IMO. And once again, fuck host meta, srsly.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  12. ISO #2462

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Gyr is the worst from that list. Voss im gonna wait for the #2 info on and MM is a bit scummier than Mike
    I give the town a scenario that makes it so town can't lose and I am a bit scummier than MM?? If i was scum I would not post as much dude to stay on the down low since my name has not been brought up. but I am scummy for helping town all game? Sloal if I am this scummy put me as number one guilty and then lych number 2 for a reset east town win. you will see my green flip. and people can stop bringing my name up with scum and I will just watch from the sidelines.
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  13. ISO #2463

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    ... This is a very very strange assumption... I don't say it's impossible, but it's irrelevant or at least not relevant enough to base a lock town read on someone AT ALL. 8v5 would be balanced since there's no nightkill and still a confirmed guy, along with Condorcet and Trial system which are pro-town IMO. And once again, fuck host meta, srsly.
    This isnt host meta, this is i-know-how-to-balance meta and 8v5 with no info is unwinnable.

  14. ISO #2464

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I give the town a scenario that makes it so town can't lose and I am a bit scummier than MM?? If i was scum I would not post as much dude to stay on the down low since my name has not been brought up. but I am scummy for helping town all game? Sloal if I am this scummy put me as number one guilty and then lych number 2 for a reset east town win. you will see my green flip. and people can stop bringing my name up with scum and I will just watch from the sidelines.
    Fucking god read mike

  15. ISO #2465

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    This isnt host meta, this is i-know-how-to-balance meta and 8v5 with no info is unwinnable.
    We also have TWO additional lose scenarios, innoing GD twice and guiltying 3 attorneys.

    Condorcet voting is slightly town but not that much, especially public, and the loss of night kills is mirrored by LITERALLY ZERO information. Judge is obviously confirmed town but i also can't even vote.

    If id been wrong on damus id be ignored and useless

  16. ISO #2466

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I give the town a scenario that makes it so town can't lose and I am a bit scummier than MM?? If i was scum I would not post as much dude to stay on the down low since my name has not been brought up. but I am scummy for helping town all game? Sloal if I am this scummy put me as number one guilty and then lych number 2 for a reset east town win. you will see my green flip. and people can stop bringing my name up with scum and I will just watch from the sidelines.
    The problem is that we lose if we lose majority, too, and you're far from being the scummiest of us all. And if you're town, you know you're town, so not sure why u would propose this o.O
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  17. ISO #2467

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    This save has 3 Scum roles 3 Mafia and 2 Nuets in it, only 1 Nuet is evil. the other will be NB since the one Nuet Evil is Uniqe role as Voss as said in an earlier post. so it is 8, 3, 2 save Aivion also wanted one more player so It would be a 9,3,2 if you remember.

    I belive Aivion has done a great job setting up this save and hosting it. I know I have enjoyed playing it.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  18. ISO #2468

  19. ISO #2469

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    This save has 3 Scum roles 3 Mafia and 2 Nuets in it, only 1 Nuet is evil. the other will be NB since the one Nuet Evil is Uniqe role as Voss as said in an earlier post. so it is 8, 3, 2 save Aivion also wanted one more player so It would be a 9,3,2 if you remember.

    I belive Aivion has done a great job setting up this save and hosting it. I know I have enjoyed playing it.
    He got his 13th. 14 is not allowed right now

  20. ISO #2470

  21. ISO #2471

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    This save has 3 Scum roles 3 Mafia and 2 Nuets in it, only 1 Nuet is evil. the other will be NB since the one Nuet Evil is Uniqe role as Voss as said in an earlier post. so it is 8, 3, 2 save Aivion also wanted one more player so It would be a 9,3,2 if you remember.

    I belive Aivion has done a great job setting up this save and hosting it. I know I have enjoyed playing it.
    Yes, exactly. There was no 14th player, but yes, bomber is not aligned with Mafia and the Benign isn't a "scum" either. So it's not unwinnable at all.

    And yea this is definetly a great setup that deserves a re-host some day. And I'm converted to Condorcet now xD
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  22. ISO #2472

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yes, exactly. There was no 14th player, but yes, bomber is not aligned with Mafia and the Benign isn't a "scum" either. So it's not unwinnable at all.

    And yea this is definetly a great setup that deserves a re-host some day. And I'm converted to Condorcet now xD
    Sfm storytellers is using condorcet for 1 part and classic for another

  23. ISO #2473

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    The problem is that we lose if we lose majority, too, and you're far from being the scummiest of us all. And if you're town, you know you're town, so not sure why u would propose this o.O
    I did in case to many people are focused on me I dont want my newb play to be the cost of town to win. So if it takes me bing voted out to help town win I still win. That was why.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  24. ISO #2474

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    @Marshmallow Marshall

    If Aivion gave us 8v5 ill never play another game by him again
    @AIVION <3
    Heresy. It's not 8v5 but 8v3v1 with a benign around. And scums don't have a nightkill. Your raw balance thing works for setups where scums have a nightkill.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  25. ISO #2475

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Spoiler : cvote :
    Magoroth,Distorted,Voss,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlan der,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Mike,Kenny,


    This would be my reads for now. I believe Mag and Distorted to be the scum team, the 2 neutrals are between MM, Voss and Numbertwo. If numbertwo isn't neut I'm obviously wrong on one of my scumreads, as numbertwo would be taking that slot.
    Mag is put in very towny positions in almost every player's vote lists right now. People who have contributed to that with defenses and praises of his play are Distorted, MM and Slaol. Gyrlander and numbertwo also have Mag at the bottom of their lists.
    I haven't put in much attention into Slaol's reads. I'm treating him as a 3rd party as he doesn't have any additional information and I never played with a role like his.
    MM has been acting flip-floppy and dependant on others all game. He seems to be very unsure about his reads and I highly doubt he could be scum in this game. Adding him scummy contributions others here have pointed out several times I have MM as neutral read like that.
    Voss still feels distanced to me. I like that he has Mag and Yagami at the top of his list and that influenced my read on him in some way. This seems to be coming from him instead of the general consensus for once. Before that however he was actively avoiding giving his reads, mostly put responsibility for his votes to Slaol. So my read on him is still mostly based on earlier interactions.
    Yagami feels towny to me. I don't want to go into to much detail on this slot, but his contributions seem to be making more sense than usual.
    numbertwo claimed neut, so we should lynch him tomorrow or make him win, depending on what happens today.
    Gyrlander is town.
    Mike is town.
    Distorted has been discrediting and neutral hunting if I'm not mistaken. I'm getting no town vibes from him whatsoever.
    Because I haven't put much attention into Slaol's reads I will change my vote later to take his opinion into consideration.

  26. ISO #2476

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I did in case to many people are focused on me I dont want my newb play to be the cost of town to win. So if it takes me bing voted out to help town win I still win. That was why.
    OBJECTION!!! We need all townies on here, and I think you're town. Not lynching u here.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  27. ISO #2477

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Spoiler : cvote :
    Magoroth,Distorted,Voss,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlan der,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Mike,Kenny,


    This would be my reads for now. I believe Mag and Distorted to be the scum team, the 2 neutrals are between MM, Voss and Numbertwo. If numbertwo isn't neut I'm obviously wrong on one of my scumreads, as numbertwo would be taking that slot.
    Mag is put in very towny positions in almost every player's vote lists right now. People who have contributed to that with defenses and praises of his play are Distorted, MM and Slaol. Gyrlander and numbertwo also have Mag at the bottom of their lists.
    I haven't put in much attention into Slaol's reads. I'm treating him as a 3rd party as he doesn't have any additional information and I never played with a role like his.
    MM has been acting flip-floppy and dependant on others all game. He seems to be very unsure about his reads and I highly doubt he could be scum in this game. Adding him scummy contributions others here have pointed out several times I have MM as neutral read like that.
    Voss still feels distanced to me. I like that he has Mag and Yagami at the top of his list and that influenced my read on him in some way. This seems to be coming from him instead of the general consensus for once. Before that however he was actively avoiding giving his reads, mostly put responsibility for his votes to Slaol. So my read on him is still mostly based on earlier interactions.
    Yagami feels towny to me. I don't want to go into to much detail on this slot, but his contributions seem to be making more sense than usual.
    numbertwo claimed neut, so we should lynch him tomorrow or make him win, depending on what happens today.
    Gyrlander is town.
    Mike is town.
    Distorted has been discrediting and neutral hunting if I'm not mistaken. I'm getting no town vibes from him whatsoever.
    Because I haven't put much attention into Slaol's reads I will change my vote later to take his opinion into consideration.
    .... omg lol. @Magoroth AND @Distorted together. You literally put the town core as your scum team. S C U M.

    Slaol is not a third party, that's just bullshit. He's confirmed town. Maybe he doesn't know who the scum are, but at least we know we can trust him.

    Tbh that's legit reasons to townread me but I guess I'm biased here so :P

    Gyrlander is town and Mike too? No explainations? . . . . .. . . ... .. . . . . . ...

    Wtf is with Distorted o.O that's false..???
    if ur scum i will eat squirrel stew post-game @Distorted
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  28. ISO #2478

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Spoiler : cvote :
    Kenny,Gyrlander,Voss,Mike,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Ma goroth,Distorted,MarshmallowMarshall,


    Didn't change list, just re-stating it
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  29. ISO #2479

  30. ISO #2480
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Spoiler : cvote :
    Magoroth,Distorted,Voss,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlan der,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Mike,Kenny,


    This would be my reads for now. I believe Mag and Distorted to be the scum team, the 2 neutrals are between MM, Voss and Numbertwo. If numbertwo isn't neut I'm obviously wrong on one of my scumreads, as numbertwo would be taking that slot.
    Mag is put in very towny positions in almost every player's vote lists right now. People who have contributed to that with defenses and praises of his play are Distorted, MM and Slaol. Gyrlander and numbertwo also have Mag at the bottom of their lists.
    I haven't put in much attention into Slaol's reads. I'm treating him as a 3rd party as he doesn't have any additional information and I never played with a role like his.
    MM has been acting flip-floppy and dependant on others all game. He seems to be very unsure about his reads and I highly doubt he could be scum in this game. Adding him scummy contributions others here have pointed out several times I have MM as neutral read like that.
    Voss still feels distanced to me. I like that he has Mag and Yagami at the top of his list and that influenced my read on him in some way. This seems to be coming from him instead of the general consensus for once. Before that however he was actively avoiding giving his reads, mostly put responsibility for his votes to Slaol. So my read on him is still mostly based on earlier interactions.
    Yagami feels towny to me. I don't want to go into to much detail on this slot, but his contributions seem to be making more sense than usual.
    numbertwo claimed neut, so we should lynch him tomorrow or make him win, depending on what happens today.
    Gyrlander is town.
    Mike is town.
    Distorted has been discrediting and neutral hunting if I'm not mistaken. I'm getting no town vibes from him whatsoever.
    Because I haven't put much attention into Slaol's reads I will change my vote later to take his opinion into consideration.
    Can you explain where the read on me comes from? And the association with Distorted? I literally have not interacted with Distorted at all, apart from a few troll posts.

  31. ISO #2481

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    ... This is a very very strange assumption... I don't say it's impossible, but it's irrelevant or at least not relevant enough to base a lock town read on someone AT ALL. 8v5 would be balanced since there's no nightkill and still a confirmed guy, along with Condorcet and Trial system which are pro-town IMO. And once again, fuck host meta, srsly.
    Condorcet isn't pro town. It's fair.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  32. ISO #2482

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    OBJECTION!!! We need all townies on here, and I think you're town. Not lynching u here.
    I agree but we need to lych some one tonight. MM I am starting to think I have been wrong about you. Frog is right I really need to stop tunneling.

    @MM; what are your true thoughts about Mag
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  33. ISO #2483

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    .... omg lol. @Magoroth AND @Distorted together. You literally put the town core as your scum team. S C U M.

    Slaol is not a third party, that's just bullshit. He's confirmed town. Maybe he doesn't know who the scum are, but at least we know we can trust him.

    Tbh that's legit reasons to townread me but I guess I'm biased here so :P

    Gyrlander is town and Mike too? No explainations? . . . . .. . . ... .. . . . . . ...

    Wtf is with Distorted o.O that's false..???
    if ur scum i will eat squirrel stew post-game @Distorted
    Slaol's reads are coming from a 3rd party position. A townie is voteable and bases his votes on other people's interaction with himself. This doesn't apply to Slaol.

  34. ISO #2484

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    this condorcet makes no fucking sense.
    Voss and gyrlander were at the top of the consensus when I voted.
    Light_Yagami is the 3rd lowerst in my list, yet he now appeared as top after I put in my vote.
    Because he went from not voted at all by you to voted by you, and since your list is really weird I think it ended up putting him scummier than people that are considered scummy by consensus so he ends up being > scummy people so he gets top.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  35. ISO #2485
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Slaol's reads are coming from a 3rd party position. A townie is voteable and bases his votes on other people's interaction with himself. This doesn't apply to Slaol.
    . more mayor discredit

  36. ISO #2486

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I agree but we need to lych some one tonight. MM I am starting to think I have been wrong about you. Frog is right I really need to stop tunneling.

    @MM; what are your true thoughts about Mag
    You have flip flopped on me a lot, so mind to say what you think about me now? :P

    And I think Mag is 99.999999999999999999% town. As I stated multiple times, his interactions with Damus clean him.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  37. ISO #2487

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Heresy. It's not 8v5 but 8v3v1 with a benign around. And scums don't have a nightkill. Your raw balance thing works for setups where scums have a nightkill.
    If youre balancing by anything other than town vs anti town youre not good at balance.

    And a benign aligned with scum is anti town, thus 8v5. You then weigh the villain factions against eachother seperately

  38. ISO #2488

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Can you explain where the read on me comes from? And the association with Distorted? I literally have not interacted with Distorted at all, apart from a few troll posts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    what has distorted done to make himself scummy.
    This was posted in response to Mike trying to push Distorted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    going by analogy - what's the difference between Distorted and Voss? there's no reason to townread one over the other.
    I'd sooner buy that Voss is neutral or scum with No.2.
    This was in response to Voss saying he townreads Distorted.

    Makes me think you're not honest on your Distorted read and are trying to distance yourself a bit, like it's usually done by scummates.

  39. ISO #2489

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    this condorcet makes no fucking sense.
    Voss and gyrlander were at the top of the consensus when I voted.
    Light_Yagami is the 3rd lowerst in my list, yet he now appeared as top after I put in my vote.
    Put me and avion in a discord chat and I'll explain

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  40. ISO #2490

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Slaol's reads are coming from a 3rd party position. A townie is voteable and bases his votes on other people's interaction with himself. This doesn't apply to Slaol.
    Kenny, you can't be discrediting slaol or I'll move you away from #2town. Slaol is not 3rd party. They have as much info as we do

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  41. ISO #2491

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    This was posted in response to Mike trying to push Distorted.

    This was in response to Voss saying he townreads Distorted.

    Makes me think you're not honest on your Distorted read and are trying to distance yourself a bit, like it's usually done by scummates.
    You are straight up ignoring what I said about Mag and Damus. Go read day one when Slaol starting posting and suspected Damus and me.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  42. ISO #2492

  43. ISO #2493

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Kenny, you can't be discrediting slaol or I'll move you away from #2town. Slaol is not 3rd party. They have as much info as we do
    We have info on votes. On who is voting us, when we ourselves know that we are town or whatever you might be. Slaol does not have this info.

  44. ISO #2494
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    This was posted in response to Mike trying to push Distorted.This was in response to Voss saying he townreads Distorted.Makes me think you're not honest on your Distorted read and are trying to distance yourself a bit, like it's usually done by scummates.
    I have absolutely no reason to believe Distorted is scum. Do you?Prove to me that Distorted is scum.You can't, because he hasn't done anything scummy to my knowledge.

  45. ISO #2495

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Spoiler : cvote :
    LightYagami,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlander,Numbertw o,Mike,Distorted,Kenny,Magoroth,Voss,


    BTW I'm phone posting, so diction will be off

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  46. ISO #2496
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Slaol is not personally invested in the game; he cannot die. His reads are worth much more than ours.The only thing he is doing is inhibiting the scum from acting scummy by virtue of his being confirmed town

  47. ISO #2497

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    I don't think that's a discredit. However, how would you explain his position if you personally believe what I'm saying is wrong and is a discredit?
    Like a mayor who's scum hunting....????? Because it's literally what he is. He's not infaillible, but he's still mayor and should be seen as such. It's pretty annoying that some people were like "JUDGE IS GOD ALMIGHTY I OFFER MY VOTE TO HIM WITHOUT CONDITION NOR EXPLAINATION" and then you're here like "Judge is just a third party, guys..." ........
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  48. ISO #2498

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    I have absolutely no reason to believe Distorted is scum. Do you?Prove to me that Distorted is scum.You can't, because he hasn't done anything scummy to my knowledge.
    What has Distorted done that makes him towny? Wasn't he defending Damus quite a lot day 1 as well? I think it was him who started the whole Damus is innocent train.

  49. ISO #2499

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Spoiler : cvote :
    LightYagami,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlander,Numbertw o,Mike,Distorted,Kenny,Magoroth,Voss,


    BTW I'm phone posting, so diction will be off
    How the fuck is Kenny townier than Distorted @Voss
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  50. ISO #2500

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Slaol is not personally invested in the game; he cannot die. His reads are worth much more than ours.The only thing he is doing is inhibiting the scum from acting scummy by virtue of his being confirmed town
    Look, I said I will adjust my votes to take his opinion into consideration towards the end of the day. For now I however treat him as someone with less information than I do, because that's what he is.
    For me his reads are not worth more than my own.

 

 

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