S-FM 203 Artificial Intelligence II

[Lolunicorn12358]

Anywho, gimme a good reason to vote Grylander and I shall. I always follow the mayors vote when I am confused in Town Of Salem, but this is smaller.

[Lolunicorn12358]

I can't find d2 page. Looking for a player list.

[Never Unlucky]

Alrighty, so here we are only on page 73, thank god. I'm back and I'll try to stay more active about now, I'll keep this tab open, is what I'm saying.
Okay, so currently its Carrot as mayor, Mesk claiming citizen, Unknown claiming doctor, aaaand RLVG claim vig? am I missing any weird claims?

Think ThePaladin claimed doctor as well.

[Lolunicorn12358]

Think ThePaladin claimed doctor as well.

Oh did he? I'll mark that down, even though I'm not sure I believe that.

[Never Unlucky]

Why did I agree to do this...

@Orpz , can I get a link to D2 start?

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ence-II/page45

[Lolunicorn12358]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ence-II/page45

Hey that helped me too now I have a players list

[Never Unlucky]

I CC Doc

Spoiler : Here's my gambit for waiting this long to reveal :

Not Really

There.

[Lolunicorn12358]

There.

Cool!

I still don't much believe it, but that's okay.

[Gyrlander]

I accused you of being scum and you blanked me. so I SC read you further.
the stubirn town are to stoborn to not argue with each other and vote or even pressure scum.

that is allowing the rest of the scum not to even try. and you aren't being voted because your scum team won't vote you. because they are know town is happy killing themselve instead. so why would they help me pressure other scum.

Taking assumptions that I'm not being voted because the scum team is stupid and basically you're saying that people that are being active right now are scum and can be faking to have a debate. You should understand and mention that.

I don't understand how just saying one option of the many that can the roleblock be discarts all the rest. Maybe this shows that you know the truth and if you were not Mayor I would suspect you being a consort.

[Lolunicorn12358]

So are we trying to do a full roleclaim, or are we just spouting about as the feeling passes? I mean, unknown was pressured, but like Mesk just kinda put it out there.

[Unknown1234]

Believe it or not, Mesk voting strenghtened the town-read I had on her. She's trying to pressure people, and I can respect that. Also, she hasn't scumslipped like you have, I wouldn't support a Mesk lynch, but I'd support seeing you lynched.

Explain in your own words how I slipped. Because I'm town. So clearly I didn't slip.

[Unknown1234]

Think ThePaladin claimed doctor as well.

No. He fake-claimed 4/5 times.

He was trying to manipulate the situation and confuse everyone. HE WAS STILL ROLEBLOCKED BTW.

[Mesk514]

Hi

[Unknown1234]

Hi

What if I told you voting me would prove my innocence?

[Lolunicorn12358]

What if I told you voting me would prove my innocence?

Voting you proves your innocence at the cost of your life, dude. And if you are town, (I'll bet you are) then that is a loss of (semi)competent town.

[Carrot Cake]

all 3 Scum are in the following:
3. Firebringer
5. Spruance
6. Calix/matzed
8. Lolunicorn12358
9. Gyrlander
10. Never Unlucky

[Carrot Cake]

which is why pressuring / voting these players and pushing them to contribute is high priority.

[Unknown1234]

which is why pressuring / voting these players and pushing them to contribute is high priority.

You are giving ThePaladin WAY too much credit considering him being roleblocked=no Ultron kill

Also, effort=/= scum.

My guess at this moment would be ThePaladin, Never Unlucky, and Gyrlander/MattZed

[Unknown1234]

You are giving ThePaladin WAY too much credit considering him being roleblocked=no Ultron kill

Also, effort=/= scum.

My guess at this moment would be ThePaladin, Never Unlucky, and Gyrlander/MattZed

Actually, more likely Spruance as the third slot.

[Unknown1234]

Effort=/=Town*

[Carrot Cake]

Taking assumptions that I'm not being voted because the scum team is stupid and basically you're saying that people that are being active right now are scum and can be faking to have a debate. You should understand and mention that.

I don't understand how just saying one option of the many that can the roleblock be discarts all the rest. Maybe this shows that you know the truth and if you were not Mayor I would suspect you being a consort.

it called mafia. It is a basic Scum move made when town fights it self. lay low and let them fight.

attacking me back but then saying oh you mayor is terribly poor. you gave the pov Scum give only blaming town for rolwbloxk on paladin. You did not suspect him to be scum because you are scum and know he is not. I ask that question many time but you refuce to comment.

[Lolunicorn12358]

all 3 Scum are in the following:
3. Firebringer
5. Spruance
6. Calix/matzed
8. Lolunicorn12358
9. Gyrlander
10. Never Unlucky

Well what about paladin

[Unknown1234]

Well what about paladin

He is confirmed for "scum-hunting"

[Lolunicorn12358]

He is confirmed for "scum-hunting"

Oh. Alrighty, then.

[Never Unlucky]

I don't care. Lynch me, cry about it. You didn't fucking read anything I've said which makes you look like shit. This is a biased opinion.

Please vote me, I actually genuinely want to be lynched so I can prove them wrong. I also don't want Vig wasting a bullet on me.

all 3 Scum are in the following:
3. Firebringer
5. Spruance
6. Calix/matzed
8. Lolunicorn12358
9. Gyrlander
10. Never Unlucky

Why are you reading me as scum?

Why are you certain that Mesk, Unknown and Paladin are town?

WHY ARE YOU THE MAYOR?

[Never Unlucky]

Disregard the two Unknown quotes, my mistake.

[Never Unlucky]

You are giving ThePaladin WAY too much credit considering him being roleblocked=no Ultron kill

Also, effort=/= scum.

My guess at this moment would be ThePaladin, Never Unlucky, and Gyrlander/MattZed

I gave you explanations as to why I voted you. I expect the same of you, otherwise you're just sheeping Mesk.

[Lolunicorn12358]

So what now? Are we going to sit here, find a lynch, be absolutely useless, or pressure people logically with a nice effort of teamwork?

[Unknown1234]

I gave you explanations as to why I voted you. I expect the same of you, otherwise you're just sheeping Mesk.

Your explanation was a Sheeps explanation. I've already said why I don't like you, but I will summarize if you like.

-you are way too defensive, you get upset when called a lurker and try to throw the shade onto someone else. The defensive part isn't exactly a scum-tell but the way you defend yourself is to make others look worse. (E.G I'm not lurking MESK, my points have more depth than yours) it's also funny seeing that player scum-reads you. Discrediting maybe.

You go with the flow. I don't agree with your read on me, and it's clear you haven't read what I've said. I would categorize you with RLVG for not reading my posts or even commenting on them. Did you even see the one about you? I bet not.

You lack opinions. As far as I can tell you only give opinions on the people who are likely getting lynched anyways (that would be me) it's easy enough to pick off the low-hanging fruit and come up with reasons why. (Apparently you "found" me slipping)

You avoid my questions as well. Why didn't you answer my question on how I supposedly 'slipped' if I slipped you should have no problem finding it. If you can't find it/refuse to answer it just furthers my thoughts that you are just sheeping an opinion, and in the long-run a vote.

[Unknown1234]

So what now? Are we going to sit here, find a lynch, be absolutely useless, or pressure people logically with a nice effort of teamwork?

If we are going to get anywhere, I would suggest voting me, then making a case on ThePaladin because everyone else thinks he's town.

[Lolunicorn12358]

If we are going to get anywhere, I would suggest voting me, then making a case on ThePaladin because everyone else thinks he's town.

Well I don't think hes town, and I don't think you are scum, therefore I shall not vote you... yet.

[Unknown1234]

Disregard the two Unknown quotes, my mistake.

Why would you quote something and refrain from talking about it?

[Lolunicorn12358]

Why would you quote something and refrain from talking about it?

Maybe twas an accident

[Unknown1234]

Well I don't think hes town, and I don't think you are scum, therefore I shall not vote you... yet.

But see, this is what will happen.

Giving a look at where the votes are currently, and judging by who is what and who is confirmed, there likely won't be enough votes on ThePaladin. RLVG and Carrot Cake + 3 mafias = 5, 11-5=6. So unless all 6 remaining remaining towns agree on lynching ThePaladin, there won't be anyone dying. The only reason I suggest me is for two reasons:

1.) Everyone will know that the 'slips' ThePaladin capitalized on were brutally emphasized and wernt even correct (I will flip town)

2.) The Vigilante won't shoot me. I would appreciate it if the Vigi doesn't waste his last bullet on me, I know that if I'm not lynched RLVG will shoot me, so it will be wasted. IF he doesn't shoot me,

3.) Tomorrow i will probably be the lynch. RLVG Firebringer and ThePaladin have some weird pact going on, and I don't like where it's taking the town. They won't stop accusing me until I flip, and I know this because they constantly avoid my questions and what I say.

This is why you need to vote me. If somebody sees this as a scum plan I will laugh in their face.

[Unknown1234]

Maybe twas an accident

Twice?

[Lolunicorn12358]

Twice?

twas. Means it was.

[Lolunicorn12358]

Twice?

If he had copied that earlier, for a different post, and misclicked trying to copy something else for his post, then maybe it would happen.

[Unknown1234]

twas. Means it was.

I said Twice because he would have had to do it by accident twice (two quotes)

[Never Unlucky]

Your explanation was a Sheeps explanation. I've already said why I don't like you, but I will summarize if you like.

-you are way too defensive, you get upset when called a lurker and try to throw the shade onto someone else. The defensive part isn't exactly a scum-tell but the way you defend yourself is to make others look worse. (E.G I'm not lurking MESK, my points have more depth than yours) it's also funny seeing that player scum-reads you. Discrediting maybe.

You go with the flow. I don't agree with your read on me, and it's clear you haven't read what I've said. I would categorize you with RLVG for not reading my posts or even commenting on them. Did you even see the one about you? I bet not.

You lack opinions. As far as I can tell you only give opinions on the people who are likely getting lynched anyways (that would be me) it's easy enough to pick off the low-hanging fruit and come up with reasons why. (Apparently you "found" me slipping)

You avoid my questions as well. Why didn't you answer my question on how I supposedly 'slipped' if I slipped you should have no problem finding it. If you can't find it/refuse to answer it just furthers my thoughts that you are just sheeping an opinion, and in the long-run a vote.

Fair enough. And that's a major problem you have. When you're being accused of something, you go on the offensive rather than defending yourself.
Or you act like a victim.

I didn't board the Paladin lynch train on Day 1. I'm the one who's highly favorable of a Spruance lynch: RLVG and Paladin consider poking him, you just think he's one of the three scums.
Only trains I've been on was Banana's (Flipped NSA), Carrot (Claimed the vigi was an ultron) and yours. All those trains had valid reasons. Saying I follow others is saying I follow common sense and you don't.

I lack opinions, huh? Apparently you don't read my posts. I think I'm the only one who prefers to see Unicorn or Spruance lynched, that's an opinion. Others gravitate around Paladin, me or you as a lynch target. You'll say I'm discrediting others, and I am willfully: Neither Unicorn nor Spruance has even casted an opinion. Carrot would say that they're watching the town fight each other.

AS WELL. So you admit not responding to others' questions. Blame me for something you don't do, make yourself look smart.

Essentially what you're doing on the soon-to-be-train on me.

Unknown, since day one you've been making wrong reads. Dougler turned out to be mayor, RLVG turned out to be Vigilante, and I know I am town. I will claim my role when needed. So, as I see you right now, either you're another Carrot Cake or you're an Ultron. I have a stronger feeling that you're Carrot Cake v2 though.

[Carrot Cake]

@Lolunicorn12358

get voting or become voted. i dont know how inexperianced you are but by the sounds of it you are unsure and its a norm for newb scum to avoid voting.

[Lolunicorn12358]

@Lolunicorn12358

get voting or become voted. i dont know how inexperianced you are but by the sounds of it you are unsure and its a norm for newb scum to avoid voting.

Oh cool then I'm normal? Great. Listen, I do not feel that I have a good reason. Whenever I ask for a reason why to vote another person, I either (ESPECIALLY BY YOU AND VOTERS OF GRYLANDER) get ignored completely, or I just get crap reasons! So I shall ask again, WHY do I vote grylander?!

[Unknown1234]

LMAO, I can't believe you took the "as well" as if I was talking about myself. I was talking about the two people that practically ignore everything I say.

You pick the two noobs to give reads on, wow. Explain your town reads. I'm not impressed seeing a "gut feeling" read ether.

No. I thought RLVG could be scum when he claimed I lied about my night action because that was bullshot. Before that I said that RLVG COULD be scum based on his interactions with pre-flip associations (I also said I'd re-read if ThePaladin flipped scum, so nice job there) my thedougler read was based on 4 pages, I sucked at the beginning, sure. I know that my thedougler read was wrong. That's the only time I've been wrong, and the difference between us is that I make enough of an opinion to be wrong. Where have you been? Sitting around waiting to call someone stupid. Nice work detective.

The reason you didn't board ThePaladin train is why I am linking you with him, I read you both scum for separate reasons but when I connect them together it makes sense. You just proved my point. You didn't have any valid reasoning on Banana btw, and your reasoning on mine was shit. Carrot Cake played really dumb so of course everyone would vote him.

Why would I want to defend myself and argue with others? This entire game those 3 have been set on lynching me, and everything I say/do is ignored or considered a 'slip.' So tell me why I should be more defensive then, id rather spend my time saying why I think people are scummy before I die then waste my time saying "this person is scummier then me though"

You can't assume I'm Carrot Cake v2 and then say I 'slipped' that's another reason you are highly scummy. You are trying to shape it so there is a logical excuse when I flip town, but towns don't 'slip' so you actually just contradicted myself.

[Carrot Cake]

Why are you reading me as scum?

Why are you certain that Mesk, Unknown and Paladin are town?

WHY ARE YOU THE MAYOR?

i am not reading you as scum. i am reading you as not town.

paladin is town. shown town intentions. his last will should be enough information to show how he is town.
unknown claims the doctor and claims to have healed mesk. after reading i am hapy to agree that scum coul easily target mesk since she made it clear she would be softclaiming. my thought is that scum thought she was a lurking tpr.

the only other possible explination to the nightkill is that scum decided not to night kill. i refuse to use this justification to lynch unknown. as its not only highly unlikly but unknown would be a prime target for night kills now. even if he is scum which is very unlikly there are 2 more scum out there and pressuring them and lynching them is prioity.

so as far as i am concerned the night kill was on mesk and mesk was healed by unknown.

[Lolunicorn12358]

WHY do I vote grylander?!

Or anyone else? I haven't seen too much a reason for the people you are looking towards. I think Paladin, or maybe RLVG

[Unknown1234]

I can already tell this game that townies rely too much on supposed 'slips'

[Unknown1234]

i am not reading you as scum. i am reading you as not town.

paladin is town. shown town intentions. his last will should be enough information to show how he is town.
unknown claims the doctor and claims to have healed mesk. after reading i am hapy to agree that scum coul easily target mesk since she made it clear she would be softclaiming. my thought is that scum thought she was a lurking tpr.

the only other possible explination to the nightkill is that scum decided not to night kill. i refuse to use this justification to lynch unknown. as its not only highly unlikly but unknown would be a prime target for night kills now. even if he is scum which is very unlikly there are 2 more scum out there and pressuring them and lynching them is prioity.

so as far as i am concerned the night kill was on mesk and mesk was healed by unknown.

Carrot Cake I don't know how many games you've played, but his last will tells jack shit about his allignment. If you think Effort=/=Town then you will never be killed and scum will win.

[Carrot Cake]

Oh cool then I'm normal? Great. Listen, I do not feel that I have a good reason. Whenever I ask for a reason why to vote another person, I either (ESPECIALLY BY YOU AND VOTERS OF GRYLANDER) get ignored completely, or I just get crap reasons! So I shall ask again, WHY do I vote grylander?!

DO YO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MAFIA WORK?

THERE IS PLAYER. THERE IS A CHANCE THEY CAN BE SCUM. THEY HAVE POSTED LITTLE BUT EACH POST SHOWS SCUM LEANING INTENTIONS.


THE NEXT STEP IS VOTING THEM. PRESSUREING THEM TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION AND READS. THIS WILL THEN FURTHER SHOW IF THEY ARE SCUM OR IF THEY ARE TOWN!



WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO DO? SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR SCUM TO REVEAL THEMSELF? IF YOU DO NOT PUSH PEOPLE AND VOTE THEM THEN YOU WILL LOSE IF YOU ARE TOWN.

AND IF GYLANDER IS TOWN. THE VOTES ON THEM/ NOT ON THEM WILL REVEAL SCUM.



IF YOU DO NOT PRESSURE AND VOTE PEOPLE. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANALISE THE POSTS TO FIND THE SCUM.

[Carrot Cake]

Carrot Cake I don't know how many games you've played, but his last will tells jack shit about his allignment. If you think Effort=/=Town then you will never be killed and scum will win.

i have never claimed it is the effot. i said it is the content of which paladin has made that show he is town.

if you want i can vote either of you and throwing against my thoughts just to prove how wrong you both are once you flip town. because im getting to the point where im going to quit because no town is scum hunting.

[Unknown1234]

i have never claimed it is the effot. i said it is the content of which paladin has made that show he is town.

if you want i can vote either of you and throwing against my thoughts just to prove how wrong you both are once you flip town. because im getting to the point where im going to quit because no town is scum hunting.

ThePaladin is probably scum, and you just confirmed him.

[Lolunicorn12358]

DO YO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MAFIA WORK?

THERE IS PLAYER. THERE IS A CHANCE THEY CAN BE SCUM. THEY HAVE POSTED LITTLE BUT EACH POST SHOWS SCUM LEANING INTENTIONS.


THE NEXT STEP IS VOTING THEM. PRESSUREING THEM TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION AND READS. THIS WILL THEN FURTHER SHOW IF THEY ARE SCUM OR IF THEY ARE TOWN!



WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO DO? SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR SCUM TO REVEAL THEMSELF? IF YOU DO NOT PUSH PEOPLE AND VOTE THEM THEN YOU WILL LOSE IF YOU ARE TOWN.

AND IF GYLANDER IS TOWN. THE VOTES ON THEM/ NOT ON THEM WILL REVEAL SCUM.



IF YOU DO NOT PRESSURE AND VOTE PEOPLE. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANALISE THE POSTS TO FIND THE SCUM.

Hush for a second.

I am prettttty sure that once you think they are scum, THEN you pressure them. If I am incorrect, let me know.
After all, it isn't as if I have played only two games quite a while ago, and sucked, and this is my only recent game.. OH WAIT