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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    i thought we were trying to end this.
    If I vote to end day early I'm literally gamethrowing

    you know this, you're mafia
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    sounds like angleshooting to me, I'm the SK.
    how is me not lynching myself angleshooting
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Because your the GF.

    Hopefully you'll get lynched and hit by a bus.
    fr tho dropping the game for a second

    did you read the link? how did it take so long for arsonist to get banned

    okay back to the game
    1. you're*
    2. alright
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    stealth didn't ping me?
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    thanks Game Over!

    Game Over!

    @Stealthbomber16 was lynched !

    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Serial Killer
    Giovanni Brusca, son of Berndardo, betrayer of the Mafia code, you can't stop killing, also known as "The Pig" for your thirst for blood.

    You are an absolutely sane artist, who likes the color red...
    Each night, you may kill a player.
    You are immune to nightkills.
    When investigated by the Cop, you appear as Suspicious, like non-Godfather Mafia members.


    The MAFIA wins - @Frinckles (Godfather), @Unknown1234 / @Kenny (Consort), @Light_Yagami (Framer)

    All Rolecards:
    Spoiler : All Rolecards: :
    Magoroth
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Doctor
    Giovanni Orlando

    You are a skilled doctor, working for the Town's well-being.
    Each night, you may save a player from one attack. If two or more attacks are issued against your target, they will still die.
    You are limited to two successful heals.
    You may not self heal.
    You are notified of successful healing; your target is not.


    Marshmallow Marshall
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Tracker
    Federico Leonardi

    You are a skilled hunter, using your skills on humans in your free time...
    Each night, you may follow someone to know who they have visited, or if they have taken no action.
    The Godfather is not immune to this.


    Frinckles
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Godfather
    Bernardo Brusca, old style don that respects the Mafia code, also known as the "The Butcher"

    You are the Godfather of the powerful Cosa Nostra, seeking to expand and seize control of Sicily.
    Each night, you may kill a player.
    You are immune to the Cop's ability.
    You are immune to night kills.

    Link to mafia chat: https://discord.gg/mu5NeUd


    Huey The Long
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Cop
    Carmelo Basile

    You are an experienced policeman, investigating the recent suspicious activity in Sicily.
    Each night, you may check a player to know if they are Suspicious or Not Suspicious.
    The Godfather will appear as Not Suspicious.
    The Serial Killer will appear as Suspicious, just like the normal mafia members.


    Mesk514
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    Citizen
    Francesca Di Matteo

    You are a citizen of the city of Sicily, trying to live a good life.
    You have no special abilities.


    blinkskater
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Citizen
    Santo Di Matteo

    You are a citizen of the city of Sicily, trying to live a good life.
    You have no special abilities.


    Efekannn02
    Spoiler : Role Card: :

    Citizen
    Giuseppe Di Matteo

    You are a citizen of the city of Sicily, trying to live a good life.
    You have no special abilities.


    Light_Yagami
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Framer
    Enzo Brusca, son of Bernardo, you help your family by framing others.

    You are a master of deception and conspiration, making people appear guilty of the Family's terrible actions.
    Each night, you may Frame a player, making them appear Suspicious to the Cop's ability.
    You may frame members of the Mafia; they will still appear as Suspicious.
    If the Godfather dies, you become the new Godfather and lose your abilities.


    Link to mafia chat: https://discord.gg/mu5NeUd


    Stealthbomber16
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Serial Killer
    Giovanni Brusca, son of Berndardo, betrayer of the Mafia code, you can't stop killing, also known as "The Pig" for your thirst for blood.

    You are an absolutely sane artist, who likes the color red...
    Each night, you may kill a player.
    You are immune to nightkills.
    When investigated by the Cop, you appear as Suspicious, like non-Godfather Mafia members.


    Mojoland/DS.
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Citizen
    Adolorata Giuffrida

    You are a citizen of the city of Sicily, trying to live a good life.
    You have no special abilities.


    Unknown1234 / Kenny
    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Consort
    Maria Brusca, daughter of Bernardo, you use your sultriness to lure in bait.

    You are a very beautiful woman, working for the Cosa Nostra.
    Each night, you may roleblock a player, preventing them from using their night ability.
    Your target is notified of being roleblocked.
    If the Godfather and the Framer/Actress are both dead, you become the new Godfather and lose your abilities.


    Link to mafia chat: https://discord.gg/mu5NeUd



    Clank / Voss

    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Citizen
    Riccardo Di Mauro

    You are a citizen of the city of Sicily, trying to live a good life.
    You have no special abilities.



    Rumox

    Spoiler : Role Card: :
    Citizen
    Rosalia Vitale

    You are a citizen of the city of Sicily, trying to live a good life.
    You have no special abilities.



    Host Notes:

    GG - hope you guys had fun til that last day. I had fun making and hosting this setup. I looked up mafia in Cosa Nostra, and stealth's name was actually the son of a mafia family who had betrayed the mafia code. He also murdered a 12 year old, which is what Efe is named after and blink and mesk were his parents LOL. I took a page out of @Cryptonic 's book when I made the names up, and I was scared that it was too town-sided when I had made the mafia/scum have the same last name and three towns that had the same last name, so I came up with that bit of flavor. A shame Efe was town, since he can't play right and actually prove himself town. You guys fell short by trying to rely on meta too much, and got convinced out of the cop's red (but the paranoia was fine there). Epic 4 way tie that hardly saved the game for town, but both scums killed Mag, ending any chance for town to win. If stealth had been lynched the game would have been instantly over.


    Link to mafia/dead chat: https://discord.gg/mu5NeUd
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    hi, question on same terms:
    hedging
    echoing
    FoS (its in wiki but not explained really..)
    bird voting
    king making
    difference between buddying and sheeping. (on wiki they both sound the same to me)


    By the way, why is the website offline like 10 times a day?


    Edit: if wolfing is just acting scummy - why not just say "acting scummy"? and if someone says someone is "open wolfing" or whatever, is it an accusation of being scum?
    Last edited by OzyWho; October 27th, 2019 at 12:43 AM.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    I got a couple of improvements on the bird voting, because random sucks.

    How does everyone feel that if there are ties, the least scummiest person resolves ties. (Fun fact if this was in play, Day 3 wouldn't have been changed)

    Also, improvement 2: Since condorcet voting is designed to not care about what others are voting, I'm thinking about hiding votes during the last tenth of the day, but making votes public after EoD. It seemed people were trying to swing the end of day vote by putting the consensus #1 vote as their last vote. Which didn't do much except destabilize the rankings such that anyone could vault up to the top.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Also, as I said, I don't feel bad about losing this game. If town members are going to claim vigilante once 4/3 real TPRs claim, they're not really playing optimally.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    After Efe, I/we had Frinkles and Yagami as priority #2 and priority #3 lynch at EoD Day 2. The game could have been a lot different.

    Note, I'm not saying that mafia don't deserve their win, nor didn't play well.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Lastly, if I was alive in that end game scenario I would have done the following
    - Ask SK to kill a mafia
    - Ask mafia to kill no one
    - Skip day
    - wait for next day.

    next here are the scenarios.
    - if mafia and and sk kill 2 town, sk auto wins this scenario
    - if mafia and sk double tap 1 town, side with mafia
    - if mafia kills town and sk kills scum, side with sk
    - if mafia kills no one and sk kills town, side with mafia
    - if mafia kills no one, and sk kills mafia, town wins

    @rumox

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Lastly, if I was alive in that end game scenario I would have done the following
    - Ask SK to kill a mafia
    - Ask mafia to kill no one
    - Skip day
    - wait for next day.

    next here are the scenarios.
    - if mafia and and sk kill 2 town, sk auto wins this scenario
    - if mafia and sk double tap 1 town, side with mafia
    - if mafia kills town and sk kills scum, side with sk
    - if mafia kills no one and sk kills town, side with mafia
    - if mafia kills no one, and sk kills mafia, town wins

    @rumox
    that turns your "scenario D" into a potentially winnable scenario.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    GG to my team for managing to pull off the win, and to Kenny for managing to fit in well with my abnormal gameplay.

    Props to naz for managing to keep the game together despite some bumps along the way. Hopefully I'll see you hosting games more in the future.

    Also props to Stealth for evading sk suspicion for the majority of the game and to MM for calling me scum where most people couldn't see. If it wasn't for my risky play I would have no doubt been lynched day 2, convincing the sheriff to suspect me enough to check me. To anyone that was wondering, the Tracker claim was NOT planned, it was me taking an educated guess on Magoroth's role based on a post he he made about him having information nobody wanted. I figured I needed to take a risk or I was going to be lynched anyways, and I always try to have a backup plan in mind in case something like that happens.

    I apologize to those in the game for having to replace out. I understand how difficult it can be to have to read two different people on one slot. Real life circumstances came up that made it too difficult to dedicate any time to the game. Glad Kenny was able to step in as quick as he did.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Lastly, if I was alive in that end game scenario I would have done the following
    - Ask SK to kill a mafia
    - Ask mafia to kill no one
    - Skip day
    - wait for next day.

    next here are the scenarios.
    - if mafia and and sk kill 2 town, sk auto wins this scenario
    - if mafia and sk double tap 1 town, side with mafia
    - if mafia kills town and sk kills scum, side with sk
    - if mafia kills no one and sk kills town, side with mafia
    - if mafia kills no one, and sk kills mafia, town wins

    @rumox
    Can guarantee you would die twice without a doubt in my mind, LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Good game for the most part. WP @Unknown1234 and @Kenny for picking up where Unknown god fake claim left off. Sorry @Stealthbomber16 I tried but just wanted the game to end rather than convince rest of town to lynch Frinckles lol.

    -vote Unknown/Kenny


    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    After Efe, I/we had Frinkles and Yagami as priority #2 and priority #3 lynch at EoD Day 2. The game could have been a lot different.

    Note, I'm not saying that mafia don't deserve their win, nor didn't play well.
    Efekannn game threw, congrats on ruining another game. Every game I have played with him as been shit like this but people defend him and say they can "meta read him fine" or something. Kinda sick of the excuses for him cause he is just going to keep doing it. It's also a shame no one payed attention to my post that Efekannn was #1 and #2 priority in basically everyone's list meaning he was being pushed by scum as well (Only Magoroth and Yagami didn't have him in top #3 IIRC). I don't really fault town for lynching him tho, what a joke. Won't be signing any future games with him in it.
    Last edited by rumox; October 27th, 2019 at 01:59 AM.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    hi, question on same terms:
    hedging
    echoing
    FoS (its in wiki but not explained really..)
    bird voting
    king making
    difference between buddying and sheeping. (on wiki they both sound the same to me)


    By the way, why is the website offline like 10 times a day?


    Edit: if wolfing is just acting scummy - why not just say "acting scummy"? and if someone says someone is "open wolfing" or whatever, is it an accusation of being scum?
    Hi.
    1. Hedging i believe is just another term for "fence sittin." Like ozzy cant commit to if naz is town or scum because hes probally scum and knows giving a read on naz wouldnt be good. Hence ozzy is hedging on naz.
    2.echoing is just pretty much repeating what another player has said in the thread. Seems like ozzy was just echoing nazs reads on efekan. Does she really agree with them or is she just yaking content that looks good and reposting it.
    3.fos is i think just the player the thread is focousing on. Like fos on ozzy right now because of yesterdays EOD.
    4. Bird voting is just the voting system we used this game. It wasnt majority it was an offsite bot that i have no idea on how it works boss can help u there.
    5.king making was explained already i think.
    6. sheeping is just seemingly blindly following a player's Vote or read on somebody. Buddying is being nice to somebody or trying to reiterate their reeds so that they don't suspect you or it could be also used if your town like somebody that you strongly Town read you want a buddy up to them so that they trust you.
    7. Open wolfing is just another way of saying that you're openly playing scum in the thread it's just different terminology as you come across different sites they use scum some use wolf
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Most that stuff is explained pretty well on the mafiascum wiki (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php...egory:Glossary)

    FoS = Finger of Suspicion

    Hedging I'm not sure there even is a clear definition for. I'd think it's about building a hedge around yourself, as to not become the target for kill or lynch. It can also be taking the suspicion onto others for that same purpose. Usually doing so is seen as a bad strategy for disposable roles like citizen, which is why it's often used as argument for a scumread.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Howdy, GG to the mafia bois. I think i played decently well as cop given its my first time ever playing the role, i think the game went decently enough besides Efe fucking it all up so ya know. Also as a geezer who dont like meta i gotta agree with the host here people on this site use meta wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much i feel and ive only been three games in.
    Share Our Wealth, for not Sharing the wealth leaves the risk of dying when the communist arrive, and we dont want communist now do we.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    So I looked up a bit more on hedging and there are definitely two definitions.
    One what I said above about protecting oneself.

    Another what blink probably meant but didn't quite get right.
    Fence sitting is about literally being indecisive between multiple choices and really not committing to one.

    Hedging doesn't require one to have multiple choices, but just describes the act of adding anything to one's speech to lower its significance or express room for error etc. Wikipedia has a page with a few examples. Beginning a sentence with anything implying something similar to "someone else than me might know better" would be one.

    I definitely hedged a fair bit this game.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Howdy, GG to the mafia bois. I think i played decently well as cop given its my first time ever playing the role, i think the game went decently enough besides Efe fucking it all up so ya know. Also as a geezer who dont like meta i gotta agree with the host here people on this site use meta wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much i feel and ive only been three games in.
    There are definitely a lot of players that visibly have a "I need to do this to not look scummy because my town meta requires it" mindset, which is terrible. I agree. Noone should play like that, no decent player also reads like that.

    I disagree about Efe ruining this game though. Just pointing a finger at him postgame is already bad sportsmanship honestly, but that's a different topic.

    Like, yea, Efe trolled a fair bit and even threw a random sk claim out, but I believe he made it clear enough it wasn't serious. Even if it was, I would've only considered it as part of wifom. He gave some reads and had a decent overall game presence, even when ignoring his troll posts.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Hi.
    1. Hedging i believe is just another term for "fence sittin." Like ozzy cant commit to if naz is town or scum because hes probally scum and knows giving a read on naz wouldnt be good. Hence ozzy is hedging on naz.
    2.echoing is just pretty much repeating what another player has said in the thread. Seems like ozzy was just echoing nazs reads on efekan. Does she really agree with them or is she just yaking content that looks good and reposting it.
    3.fos is i think just the player the thread is focousing on. Like fos on ozzy right now because of yesterdays EOD.
    4. Bird voting is just the voting system we used this game. It wasnt majority it was an offsite bot that i have no idea on how it works boss can help u there.
    5.king making was explained already i think.
    6. sheeping is just seemingly blindly following a player's Vote or read on somebody. Buddying is being nice to somebody or trying to reiterate their reeds so that they don't suspect you or it could be also used if your town like somebody that you strongly Town read you want a buddy up to them so that they trust you.
    7. Open wolfing is just another way of saying that you're openly playing scum in the thread it's just different terminology as you come across different sites they use scum some use wolf
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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    There are definitely a lot of players that visibly have a "I need to do this to not look scummy because my town meta requires it" mindset, which is terrible. I agree. Noone should play like that, no decent player also reads like that.

    I disagree about Efe ruining this game though. Just pointing a finger at him postgame is already bad sportsmanship honestly, but that's a different topic.

    Like, yea, Efe trolled a fair bit and even threw a random sk claim out, but I believe he made it clear enough it wasn't serious. Even if it was, I would've only considered it as part of wifom. He gave some reads and had a decent overall game presence, even when ignoring his troll posts.
    I'm not going to go so far as to say that I won't sign games with Efe, but I will say that if I see things like that again from anyone, I will always vote them, and not feel bad at EoG if I lose.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Sb16 why u kill me bruh u were 4th in my poe =(
    I couldn't think of anyone to kill so I randomized my target
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    Bird votes combined with the blitz as seen this game allows the mafia to practically gain double vote power anyway. They can vote one of their own, pro town, and offset everyone's reads, shifting them in their favor like that. EoD they can then blitz and gain a double vote from the cancelled pro town vote and the added pro mafia vote. The strongest vote in birdbot is one of a player who shifts their read entirely by 180°.

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    Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

    yes that death note from day 2 was completely genuinely made- it was the second time I generated a list because the first time had me as the kill for the night
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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