Yeap, we die in their place and flip as ??? in the graveyard if we die protecting someone; no revenge attack.
Vulnerable = We are announced at night start (and I presume EVERY) night start that we can be killed at night. I have no reason to suspect we can't be healed if there is indeed a healing role. The rolecard part is that we are announced to not be death-immune. That is all.
Uncoordination; we disagreed strongly over Empathy being town and then most of the hydra went inactive near night end. I PM'd Fire before night started but after the deadline.
I don't see why any of this is "majorly inconsistent."
Herp. I consistently mix up the acronym'd names. Amended:
Player Name Supposed Role D0 Actions N1 Actions Notes Calette Auditor - put someone in an anonymous night chat and roleblock them Night Chat with TDL None? Seen as town by Hell Frog TheDarkestLight Healing-type role None Roleblocked Claims cannot be healed OrpZedWorlds Cronenberg Hydra - target someone at night to die in their place None None? (we had talked about defending Empathy, but I don't think any action went through) Cannot be invested; at night, player is announced as vulnerable RLVG Amnesiac None Gain Funcall's role Claims to be town-aligned and have no other abilities Nicholas Cage Detective/Gladiator Nothing Detect RLVG; saw visiting SFT Claims to be town Hell Frog Wagon Sensor Checked a train with Calette+SFT on it, no scum None Hasn't revealed any other info Empathy17 Role Cop Nothing Checked Hell Frog; roleclaim matched Claims to also be a miller
Why does the game have to announce that you can be killed at night / cannot be healed?
Would you otherwise be immortal?
This is weird in contrast to everyone else lol.
Seriously let's think about this:
Their role is supposedly to die for someone else without taking down the attacker - a totally gimped pathetic role - and they felt the need to intentionally mislead the town to keep that gimp role alive. Doesn't make any sense at all.
It is not announced that we cannot be healed. In fact, I believe we can. Why it's that way is because Fire, in his role modification, inverted what we originally submitted: Instead of being immune to night-kills, we're night-killable AND publicly announced to be so. To quote Fire, "OrpZedWorlds Is Vulnerable To Death Tonight."
Do you really see Fire's message as indicating a scum alignment? I haven't seen how Orpz said it would happen, but saying that we can be killed at night certainly isn't a trait that makes sense to give to non-town or maybe non-neut/town.
Someone's role needs to be gimped, but I'm not even sure I accept the argument that ours is; If we die in someone's place and can successfully suggest who we protected, that person is cleared as non-scum. I'd also argue, as Orpz has already done, that Fire's public revelation semi-confirms us, which is a town bonus.
We are not neutral. Eliminate that possibility from your PoE.
-Matt
RLVG has done fuck all nothing the entire game. Only has really taken part once he has been called out.
Has there ever been a more concentrated effort to discredit us? There is literally no reason to call us neutrals and I would rather be called scum than neutral after spending so much time polarizing the discussion and attempting to figure out town/scum.
t. Orpz
Let the record show that, ~3 hours ago, Hell Frog announced that they were doing ISOs.
You've been justifying low conversation at LYLO for those. Frog's also promised Helz had something to mechanically lock the game. I'm waiting.
@Calette - thanks for clarification
This is Frog, and was Frog.
@Empathy @Ika @Silverwolf
We need to concensus - thoughts on +EV lynches?
My day 1 actions were survive. I'm getting tired of this stupid "Only neutrals want to survive" meme.
Before I left, I clearly stated that the other heads would be taking over my part in discussion. I can pull up that post if you like. Your attempting to make it sound like I was fleeing is invalid.
t. Orpz
Don't go for second best! Put your love to the test! Lol - this bar song
I speed read, but i haven't seen more than 2 votes on any player so far exlucding calette/empathy/hell frog votes, correct?
RLVG was someone out of the spotlight, with a null read. He was hiding so AIVION suggested we followed him.
If he had visited someone else other than Tank, we would be able to reveal this information if he claimed and it would either support his claim or go against it.
Either way it was to eliminate a player who was laying low and no one had a read on.
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OrpZedWorlds, Calette, Nicolas Cage
2 lurkers, reveal yourselves. I know you're not Hell Frog.
@Cage
What are your thoughts on TDL?
-Helz
It doesn't really help when our townies are lurking, we shouldn't have to argue with scum alone...
~deathworlds