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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    CaLiX wanted DW LYNCHeD like BC wanted GYRlander lynched


    Prv [Prove?] shtty TPR play shall be LYNCHeD

    FuCK playng wrs [Mafia Wars?] as TPR


    DW very scummy and deserved LYNCH


    Claim not relevant

    MZ pnt [point?] in SJ first good MZ pnt
    Not fully able to translate. Would appreciate hints at my guesses in [brackets].

    We ask for claims before lynching for a reason, and "there's a jailor" was not a good enough reason to continue to lynch a TPR claim, especially when we had a jailor to confirm. But we can discuss this after the game if you're town.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Not fully able to translate. Would appreciate hints at my guesses in [brackets].

    We ask for claims before lynching for a reason, and "there's a jailor" was not a good enough reason to continue to lynch a TPR claim, especially when we had a jailor to confirm. But we can discuss this after the game if you're town.
    Y


    wrs lk bd r shtty


    Y


    TPRs r vrrtd nd VT gms r th bst bt cn dscss ltr

    CLX twn

    MZ bd t rdng CLX lk CLX bd t rdng MZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    @Calix , on a scale from 1-10, how much of your townread on Mesk is trusting her trust tell?
    probably 10, but she has amazing instincts so shut it


    waaaay better instincts then DW....
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    @Calix, on a scale from 1-10, how much of your townread on Mesk is trusting her trust tell?
    3

    twn tll crppy wy 2 ply

    tn nd wy MSK tlks v twny

    dffrnt frm BFN ply

    bt tr prtly BC th wy MSK clmd

    flt twn t CLX
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    mesk who do you think is scum?
    Honestly MattZeds been given a very scummy aura... so has RLVG
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    you could of asked me you know
    I could have, but I scum read you and town read her. There isn't a good incentive for you to answer me truthfully.
    And, as i was pondering two posts, SilverWolf had just made one. Which means she was probably on and reading the thread.
    Here's what I got:

    . . 02:03 PM as well as 02:05PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    wait, wait let me be unkwnon real quick

    "how do you know theres a lookout in the game"
    . . 02:16 PM
    this is why i have a fucking hdyra

    qyuote him where he said it before the post i link or STFU.

    im done for the reat of theday
    In a span of 11 minutes, you go from casual and carefree (making a joke), to being crass and abrasive (attacking their credibility).
    Maybe it's not scummy, but it is very odd behavior. If it was anyone else, I'd be adding this to the reasons to scum read them.
    I'm looking through your forum posts. Can you characterize what you have done this game?

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I could have, but I scum read you and town read her. There isn't a good incentive for you to answer me truthfully.
    And, as i was pondering two posts, SilverWolf had just made one. Which means she was probably on and reading the thread.
    Here's what I got:

    . . 02:03 PM as well as 02:05PM

    . . 02:16 PM


    In a span of 11 minutes, you go from casual and carefree (making a joke), to being crass and abrasive (attacking their credibility).
    Maybe it's not scummy, but it is very odd behavior. If it was anyone else, I'd be adding this to the reasons to scum read them.
    I'm looking through your forum posts. Can you characterize what you have done this game?
    what do you mena characterize what i have done?

    i can go from 0 to pissed of in an instance and silverwolf can atone to it so unless if im missunderstaing somethign, its not odd behavor of me when peole do stupid stuff to me.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    what do you mena characterize what i have done?

    i can go from 0 to pissed of in an instance and silverwolf can atone to it so unless if im missunderstaing somethign, its not odd behavor of me when peole do stupid stuff to me.
    I don't really have a problem with it and I trust that SilverWolf and you are not lying to me.
    I'm asking you to sum up what you have done this game:
    How you progressed the game/how you held the game back
    What notable reads of yours has changed and
    Whether or not you pushed someone's lynch/tried to convince someone

    stuff like that

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I don't really have a problem with it and I trust that SilverWolf and you are not lying to me.
    I'm asking you to sum up what you have done this game:
    How you progressed the game/how you held the game back
    What notable reads of yours has changed and
    Whether or not you pushed someone's lynch/tried to convince someone

    stuff like that
    well most of that could be asnwer by looking at my post no?

    are you accusing me of doing nothing all game?

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Right now, SJ's highlighted reading of me bothers me A LOT.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    MattZed
    Also agrees that Mesk should be Policy Jailed #1246
    This is a misrep of my post. My post did not suggest Mesk should be jailed, but rather spent discussing my hopes that she would be productive if jailed as town.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Claims to have never wanted Mesk to be Jailed (Despite his earlier arguements) #1313
    Again, I never said Mesk should be jailed. This is entirely a distortion of my discussion, which was that jailing Mesk was not the epicly dumb move people portrayed it as.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    THIS post has turned out to be extremely accurate, I'm getting a sense of TMI from MZ #1388
    A sense of TMI that I thought DW might be TPR? SCUM DON'T KNOW WHO THE TPRs ARE. HOW IS THIS A NOTE ON A SCUMREADING LIST?

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    THIS post where MZ has coincidentally forgotten about the Blackmailer, after spending a good amount of the day talking about the setup but not to worry. Because they probably couldn't cause problems with it anyway (Which shows that he does already have thoughts of how well the Blackmailer can work #1404
    Almost everyone didn't consider the Blackmailer, but it doesn't take several minutes to figure out that the BM can't do anything too devious to make us somehow uncertain that a jailing happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Places a vote onto Calix for driving this mess #1432
    She was trying to screw a TPR claim. I completely stand by her needing at least a slap on the wrist for that nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    #1490 Last post, MZ pushed the Blame to me for DW getting lynched. Dispute it being (at the time) the most logical and best move
    "the most logical and best move" KEK. A TPR is dead and Sino didn't get confirmed. But more importantly, SJ misreps me by suggesting I was blaming him for DW being lynched. I explained that it wasn't DW's fault his roleclaim happened so close to EoD; his train wasn't there yet. I wasn't saying "omg this is all SJ's fault for bringing shit up so late," as SJ implies.

    ISO'ing SJ now, but I stand by my current vote. I am especially bothered that he tries to cast suspicion on me here for thinking DW might be TPR; there is no way scum could know or not know DW was TPR, so it isn't scum indicative, but he frames it as if I have secret information.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    In a span of 11 minutes, you go from casual and carefree (making a joke), to being crass and abrasive (attacking their credibility).
    Maybe it's not scummy, but it is very odd behavior.
    This is ika's game personality to a T. Not alignment related at all.

    [off topic]He's super awesome IRL though. One of the best people you will ever meet. [off topic]

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    As I said, I am currently looking through your forum posts.

    Yes. I was wondering if you think this is a misrep.
    im asking you what you are accusing me of.

    if you think i cant go form 0 to pissed in 11 mins your wrong to the nth degree.

    if you think i have been doign nothing all game long i would like to see the evidence that backs up the acusation

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    im asking you what you are accusing me of.

    if you think i cant go form 0 to pissed in 11 mins your wrong to the nth degree.

    if you think i have been doign nothing all game long i would like to see the evidence that backs up the acusation
    I'm accusing you of
    1. Not doing anything the whole game. (not pro-town, deceptive)
    2. Avoiding getting involved. (survivalistic, anti-town)
    3. Accepting town reads on yourself that lack reasoning. (pro-scum)
    4. Not following through on what you believe in. (scum indicative)
    5. Not being like-minded as me. (scum indicative, usually)
    6. Not hesitant to pass judgment, but slow to communicate information. (pro-scum)

    Your "evidence" is your ISO. Which takes a wall post to tackle.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I'm accusing you of
    1. Not doing anything the whole game. (not pro-town, deceptive)
    2. Avoiding getting involved. (survivalistic, anti-town)
    3. Accepting town reads on yourself that lack reasoning. (pro-scum)
    4. Not following through on what you believe in. (scum indicative)
    5. Not being like-minded as me. (scum indicative, usually)
    6. Not hesitant to pass judgment, but slow to communicate information. (pro-scum)

    Your "evidence" is your ISO. Which takes a wall post to tackle.
    On your 5th point, I'm not really thinking like you this game and you are townreading me.

    Can you give me some examples of some of the other points?

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Do you think DW deserved his lynch?
    10/10
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    How come?
    Cause him flipping town just pretty much means he had tunnel vision, considering i am town.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Tunnel vision on whom, exactly?
    me, duh
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    because he let my claim get in the way of how he analyzed my behaviour... idk personally im more of a consistency seeker than a full on reads gyal and i must say im pretty consistent as fuck

    (took this page straight out of my PTB book)
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    because he let my claim get in the way of how he analyzed my behaviour... idk personally im more of a consistency seeker than a full on reads gyal and i must say im pretty consistent as fuck

    (took this page straight out of my PTB book)
    How would you prefer someone try to read you, if it's not dwelling on your claim?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    this is like a dog chasing its tail. i don't know what to say.
    however, i am mesk & i am always town. so DW can suck it. the odds were and still aren't in his favour
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    this is like a dog chasing its tail. i don't know what to say.
    however, i am mesk & i am always town. so DW can suck it. the odds were and still aren't in his favour
    How should DW have known you were town? Even some of your most ardent admirers won't give you more than a null read.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    How should DW have known you were town? Even some of your most ardent admirers won't give you more than a null read.
    lol uh, calix is smart as fuck and she knows im town...
    Unknown is my biffle and he town read me.

    so you have two top tier players town reading me

    and also, im given a null read due to the fact that DW made "cases" as to why i was scum. but they're terrible... because im not scum
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Spoiler : Post Summary of SJ :
    8 - RV Mesk
    86 - fluff
    89 - questions Sino is Mesk has to RVS
    94 - admits to finding D1 difficult
    100 - fluff
    105 - points out ika's familiarity with the setup
    113 - fluff
    118 - doesn't believe that meta won't apply to Calix
    125 - suspects me as neut for offering plan to neut
    135 - votes Sino for seeming "pretty upset" at SK siding with town
    138 - tells Calix to not ML him D1
    148 - asks Unknown to explain how Sino was "shade dropping"
    162 - says he will read setup
    167 - walks back #105 reasoning that ika tends to ask questions about setups
    203 - points out Mesk and ika would both quickhammer; doesn't unvote Sino
    229 - describes the scum team
    232 - tells Sino to explain SJ's vote before asking others to
    242 - objects to my pursuing SP for not denying being scum
    249 - asks me if I'm scum
    257 - suggests Sino was scummy, rather than there being pocketing going around
    261 - troll votes me following #242 and my response to #249
    265 - justifies Sino vote on weak evidence on grounds that D1 has little evidence
    269 - again disagrees with me about evidence for pocketing
    280 - votes me mirroring my reasoning on him; says "this Day I'm Serious"
    311 - claims my train wasn't building because he didn't have scumbuddies; defends missing the point of my posts as picking up on what others dont notice
    313 - leaves for bed
    316 - calls Unknown's unvote a "Flip Flop"
    497 - votes DW for sounding like he did last game, when he was scum
    510 - displays annoyance at Sino's critique of his scumhunting (this is in response to what post by Sino?)
    511 - says he'll address ika's read list and my posts later
    518 - explains going to sleep as not wanting to tunnel me; displays being upset about my discussion on him going to bed
    524 - "Since when was Mesk a great manipulator?"
    527 - says DW vote was for tone and meta, not just meta
    529 - claims Mesk is null and doesn't understand how people scumread her
    563 - again states that DW's play is similar to his scumplay in MW3
    599 - says Mesk isn't getting lynched today and that votes should be cast elsewhere; calls for more pressure on DW
    628 - posts readwall; DW, myself, and Sino are his top lynches, (oh look, all town, assuming Sino is indeed jailor) and Unknown, Calix, and Mesk are no-lynch
    629 - BRBs, dares me to call him scum again
    630 - says to mention him if needed
    657 - explains SW and yzb were off his lynch list because he hasn't read them yet
    673 - asks Unknown if he scumreads me for my absence for "calling me[SJ] scum for not being around?"
    675 - fluff
    793 - dares Mesk to ISO RLVG (oh look, that didn't happen)
    1027 - says he has been lurking off of invisible without posting and says he will post thoughts when he gets home
    1036 - explains to not expect anything for at least an hour
    1266 - says no one disbelieves Sino; argues for lynch to "gain that extra bit of VCA"
    1299 - "Atleas I have the balls to let people know when I'm reading."
    1312 - calls SP "moronical" and again argues for having VCA
    1331 - says he townreads Unknown because "nothing had caught my eye and raised a flag," but says this happened in Overwatch too, so he needs to re-read but leans town; says Mesk is null but would suspect her if no one picked on her because she's lynchbait; townreads Calix "god knows if its just the way you play, but I cannot find any scum motivation in what you have been posting."
    1343 - tells SP to explain how Sino could not be jailor
    1373 - accuses scum of avoiding VCA as the reason for DW not being voted
    1390 - reminds Sino that he has a jail chat and says everyone is assuming an execute
    1396 - suggests Emperor could blackmail Sino
    1403 - to DW: "Atleast you admit that you know I'm Town"
    1413 - accuses DW of trying to "wiggle" out of the post inspiring #1403
    1418 - expresses shock at people not considering Blackmailer
    1440 - expresses doubt at a jailor and an escort being in game
    1446 - tells SW she can turn of pedits
    1461 - tells Unknown DW will flip scum, and SJ will laugh for it
    1476 - justifies rampaging on the grounds that "no lynch is a terrible Idea"
    1483 - "5 Minutes Left"
    1500 - most recent readwall; townread on Calix, Sino, ika, Mesk; scumreads on me+RLVG+yzb
    1507 - votes me
    1509 - questions Unknown's interpretation that he's after Unknown today
    1519 - improves #1519 by saying he typo'd Unknown as his top lynch when he meant me
    1525 - justifies last-minute lynch on grounds that he and others had scumread DW, and that jailing was supposedly a terrible option
    1532 - claims his readwall was not the "finished version"
    1535 - responds to SW's concerns in his readwall that he was only commenting on final votes, not necessarily suggesting SW was just going along with train
    1541 - justifies skimming by being at work
    1545 - fluff
    1546 - asks if Unknown had a LW
    1556 - says he pegged SP as Town Leader (why?)
    1562 - says DW, not Calix, was to blame for DW's lynch; asks why no one spoke up for him if they townread him
    1572 - asks Gyrlander how long BM lasts
    1576 - asks SP why he blames Calix and not SJ, and why he didn't try to stop the train
    1582 - says squriming isn't town-indicative because scum also squirm
    1584 - accuses SP of blaming Calix because Calix scumreads her
    1593 - repeats suspicion of people not remembering BM and explains why he thought about BM
    1595 - says Sino has already had a confirmation bias in a previous question
    1597 - leaves
    1637 - disputes Calix's suspicion of him; admits he was wrong with DW but that DW played scummy;says he pegged SP as town leader for not caring about his actions due to being confirmable
    1643 - repeats to SW that he was strongly in favor of a DW lynch
    1645 - says SP's scuminess doesn't look intended now that the leader is lynched
    1648 - questions the notion that he's been scummy; accuses Calix of PTB-level conspiracy by thinking SJ has been doing "good scum play"
    1660 - finally goes to bed after #1597


    Heading off for the night, but thought I'd leave my notes on SJ. One big thing: there's no serious scumhunting going on here, at least not that he explains. He votes by leaving a single sentence most of the time. His argument on DW was that it felt like he was acting a lot like he was as scum in MW3 and that he had a perhaps overly-aggressive tone. And yet... SJ says the argument in about the same complexity I just did. There really isn't much given in the direction of deep reads.

    And yet... he's quite defensive. In 510 he gets mad at how Sino had been supposedly critiquing his scumhunting... when Sino had hardly paid any attention to him at all. He doesn't actually really make much of a case for DW; D1 his mantra near day end is "I want a lynch so we can do VCA, which is clearly much better than having the jailor act." He said he scumread DW, but he wasn't pushing that as his stated reason. He just wanted a lynch.

    I get it, I often want lynches too, but what did we really gain here by people killing DW? We still would have known who wanted to kill him, and now we don't have a confirmed jailor. Sure, I'll give 95% chance Sino's a town jailor, but it's not confirmed, and we lost the potential bonding and strategizing that can happen between a confirmed town and the person they jail. It was a rushed vote that mostly just tells us, well, people are stupid. (or that DW was clearly so scummy and deserved it if you follow that train... I don't)

    But let's get back to how he gets into DW for a moment: SJ wasn't pushing DW the same way or for the same reasons Calix was. Calix spent a lot of time on the way DW was going after Mesk, characterizing it as unproductive and thus a bit scummy. (I'm still not sure I follow that argument, but whatever) The point is SJ scumread DW for something initially, and then his view didn't get any more nuanced later.

    And this is what I consider to be the vital scumtell: SJ didn't continue to evaluate DW. He thought DW acted like he was before... and that's it. A few more posts trolling DW "oh so you admit I'm town" and telling Unknown he'll laugh when DW flips... but no asking DW for more information or responding to new information. At best, he offhandedly dismisses DW's claim on the grounds of setup balance... jailor and escort can't happen together? Didn't even bother to think why DW would claim escort, just continued going for the lynch.

    Was SJ's goal to get DW lynched, or did he just see a train and let it drive itself? I can't say that yet without seeing flips on the rest of his train. However, he wasn't sincere in hunting it.

    What were his other goals? He went after Sino (oh look, another town as far as we can tell), RV'd Mesk which he clearly never meant, and OMGUS'd me. Me, DW, and Sino. That's a very small list of people to pursue in ~85 posts, (and perhaps a little SP at the end) and none of them too seriously. He voted the people who were pressuring him, and applied pathetic counter-pressure.

    Oh yeah, and there's that protracted defense of Mesk and "omg guys you can't read her she's null, but since people are going after her it must be scum going lynchbait so she's probably town." Oy... just... oy. It was a protracted buttkissing of Mesk, who was never much on the block for a lynch. (HE EVEN SAYS IN POST 599 SHE ISN'T GETTING LYNCHED TODAY!) Just repeats the same point that we should be nice to Mesk so she can play well, and yet he only ever engages once with her, to ask for an RLVG ISO, which he never follows up on. That's an awful lot of trying to help Mesk when she didn't need it, and it's not even good help. I can't say if pocketing, white knighting, or just defending a weaker scumbuddy, but he wasn't defending someone who actually needed it, which is scummy.

    If this were any other player, with the OMGUSes, shallow reads, pushing mislynches, defending players who don't need it, defensiveness, and opportunism, he'd be dead by now. SJ is not a wonderkid who's been helping us. He drove a TPR to the grave and pretended to be helpful all along.

    SJ needs to die, and he needs to die today.

    We're 6v3v1, and need 6 votes to lynch. Town needs to vote SJ. NOW.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  49. ISO #1749

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post

    ika
    This game I am town reading him, he is active and forward, and only seems to be lacking the self-confidence that a town player uncertain of everyone else alignment would show.
    SJ, i'd like you to give more details about this line from your read on ika.

    Yes, he has been active, but forward ? No, he even said it himself at some point during d1, "just ask me if you want my opinion about something", now things may have changed since then, but i don't have the feeling he's helping getting the game forward, he's just questionning everything said about him, and doesn't really give his opinion about what's going on.
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

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    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    aeiou!"£$%^&*()_=+;:@'~#,.<>/?
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
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    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

 

 

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