I read Calix as scum for the obvious support of Never Unlucky.
"Something something makes strong points against sp. Town." -- as said by Calix.
I read Calix as scum for the obvious support of Never Unlucky.
"Something something makes strong points against sp. Town." -- as said by Calix.
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
Exception for Iced. Okay back to work.
-vote secondpassing
I'm content with this. Scummy or just sheer bad. Which is unfortunately such a common thing that comes up in regards to scum reading people, but oh well.
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
You're slipping so hard you'll be outdoing Paladin in the Hall of Fame. Anyone who scum-reads you becomes suspect and whoever agrees with you is town? lmao
You don't remember the reasoning that you supposedly agree with. Right.
Can everyone on the NU train pull their head out of their arse and vote for this instead?
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
TDL - secondpassing is scummy or just plain bad, either way we should lynch him.
You're not helping yourself TDL!
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
So how does that question relate to anything about your reads then? It's a vanilla setup.
I asked why Iced voting for NU wasn't giving you pause. You responded by saying that something else was - that clearly has some link with your Iced read because why would you bring it up in your answer otherwise?
Today in 'that's not how that works'
Scum do not all act like robots who push the exact same players, nor are they prone to hogging the spotlight just so they can lynch one player, especially on Day 1.
Try again.
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
The second question is irrelevant at the moment since you are the current focus of discussion. I am though, interested in your affiliation with Iced. It's perhaps pushing it but it seems like a possible connection there.
And... that assumes the scum think you're some super high priority target that must be taken out asap.
Sorry, but I don't think anyone here thinks you are that level of player.
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
Those weren't points I was making on SP, those were points criticizing his last post. My case on SP is not based on NAI stuff.
I didn't say that OMGUS voting made SP scum necessarily. I said that the fact that he bases his reads on others' reads makes him appear scummy.OMGUS isn't something only scum does, I literally did this last game. We aren't the same people, but my point is you are relying on textbook ideas and making it seem scummy.
Throwing shade is AI. zzzThrowing shade is NAI, it's a personality thing.
Oh, so you agree that 'Lurking = scum', 'Effort = Town', 'happy = town' and 'posting = town'? Probably not.That's just a massive discredit.
Yes, it is a discredit. A very needed one.
You've seen me being desperate in previous games (IC and Politico). I am nowhere near this state of mind, I do not understand where you're coming from with this affirmation. I'm also not supporting an early lynch, obviously.NU, I don't know why you are so desperate to get an early lynch. You are trying too hard to be the best, and it honestly just works against you.
Err, I'm not sure how my posts make you think that I'm trying the best. LMAO XD, sorry.
Marginalizing your own reads. Politicoscum!NeverUnlucky says hi.
Explain your position on SP and myself. Calix hasn't put pressure on SP, but k.TOWN
Spruance
DarknessB
secondpassing
Unknown1234
LESS TOWN
Mesk514
Eggy
DAY 1 LYNCH POOL
TheDarkestLight
Never Unlucky
Calix
Iced_Monopoly
gg 2 ez
You suddenly scum-read TDL! Waouh-ya!
Why? Because he had an interaction with you?
I suppose you now town-read Spruance too seeing as he town-reads you. As I, DB and Calix said -- Contribution =/= Alignment.
You mean because she supports the case I made on you, right? Booooo...
1. Calix
2. DarknessB
3. Eggy
4. Iced_Monopoly
5. Mesk514
6. Never Unlucky
7. Spruance
8. TheDarkestLight
9. Unknown1234
10. secondpassing
1. Typical Calix, nothing pinged me weird. Nothing to add.
Spoiler : ;_; :
2. Logical posts made in an attempt to scum-hunt/pressure. However, DB's tone feels distant/neutral. His posts feel objective and lack opinion IMO. He hasn't given his reads on SP with whom he's had a substantial interaction.
His tone in IC felt way more engaged -- maybe it's because Spruance had shot him, and he got salty. If not, perhaps he's being a cautious town. Either way, I'm keeping a reserve on my DB read.
3. It's purely gut. I tend to read Eggy correctly, and I do not feel like he's scum this time around from the few posts he's made. He could be trying to evade conversation with me so that I cannot read him, but I doubt this because he voted me in RVS.
4. Really disliked how he suggested a policy lynch ~6 hours into the game. As I said, that's most likely what scum would want to do this game -- lynch someone and call it a PL. I'm also questioning his motives to put me at L-2. No one on my train made a case on me, so his vote is pretty suspicious.
5. Pretty much what everyone said about her -- Didn't soft-claim, didn't claim being town.
I also pointed out that her pre-defense looked like the typical scum pre-defense. This is one of the scum-tells that never lies.
6. /
7. Purely based on meta since his posts are garbage. In Politico, a game in which he was scum, he was always acting defensive and he cared. So far he hasn't done that.
8. His latest post, in my eyes, didn't bring anything new on the table. I have the feeling that he's sheeping the leading trend.
9. LMAO XD, sorry. Really don't have a read on him yet.
10.I don't like that TDL's vote is on him.Spoiler : ... :
Possibility of being a (very) stupid town?
If nothing strikes you as weird about Calix why town read her? Wouldn't Null be more accurate?
Spruance is fucking 100% town in your eyes? What? You even openly admit it to be meta.
And... I haven't added anything new? Alright then. Nice to know you are skimming.
I also like how you seem to think I'm teamed with SP. Care to explain to me how that works?
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
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I don't know why everyones on this meta train, Eggy clearly voted me based on personal spite. do you not see those apologizes?
do you not see that there's literally no explanation besides, "i'm like 99.9% sure"
Spruance's vote came with no explanation, i think i dunno it's hard to think at the moment.
courtesy of iced monopoly i got a comic that represents this exact game... so go fuck yourselves
Never Unlucky, stop kissing Calix's ass please.
anyways, nap time... bye
Yes, my issue with the host is resolved.
I hereby rescind my vote on Never Unlucky until I can more fully comprehend what this means.
Context of the quote: sign-up thread for the other S-FM. He quotes signs 9. Spruance 10. Slayer and.... All the way at the bottom of the list, reserve 1. secondpassing.
If he thinks I am trash tier scum, I think he would have been elated in having caught the scum game one. That or he thinks that I am that bad.
But I have a feeling it is not the above, and that he is frustrated at me. You basically only get frustrated with town players or town that won't listen to you.
Which means, down under, he probably thinks I'm town, can't explain it in his terms why a town player would play like me, and concluded that I was scum.
(look man, I'm was wrong to call you a noob, I could have used a different term in addressing you.)
-vote deathworlds
FoS on Calix while I contemplate
[mod]Note: This post was originally posted in an incorrect thread and was moved to its correct location about 40 minutes after the fact
-MattZed[/mod]
Last edited by MattZed; August 11th, 2016 at 04:54 PM.
Shootdid that not post?
None can stand against the coming Darkness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Sometimes, the light can come from the darkest places...
NU unsigned because I hadn't signed.
Not that you should need to know this to realise how ridiculous USING SIGN UP THREADS TO READ PLAYERS IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
The fact that every single read you make somehow relates back to how other people treat you is insanely self-centred.
If you think I'm scum, try voting me instead of just waving your 'FOS' around. Do you even have a read on me outside of "town-read NU"?
She didn't slip, she's playing the Calix town game... Why would null be more accurate? I don't think I understand where you're coming from.
No, of course he's not 100% town in my eyes. I read him not scum, I am not saying anyone is 100% town in my reads. He won't ever post something substantial, so the only way I had of reading him was with meta. Basically if he's not obvious scum, he's town for me.Spruance is fucking 100% town in your eyes? What? You even openly admit it to be meta.
Granted, I exaggerated when I wrote 'anything'. My points stand though.And... I haven't added anything new? Alright then. Nice to know you are skimming.
And no, I didn't skim your posts. I read them from A to Z. I only skim Kovath's posts (when he's in the game) because I find his writing style annoyingly nerdy.
No, I don't think you are in a team with SP, hence why I don't like that your vote is on him. I lean-scum-read both of you, so your vote on him is clouding my reads.I also like how you seem to think I'm teamed with SP. Care to explain to me how that works?
Because at the time, the alternative train was on SP, which I was reading as town. There was time to go for multiple trains and see how people reacted to them, so it was best to make a start on one of the bigger ones, other trains could be moved to later.
You need to stop with the misrep. Not only did you ignore the post that i @mentioned you in initially refuting your point, but you then proceeded to ignore me all together until calix had to bring up your train of thought twice before you realised you needed to make a reply. I also questioned you the first time as to what all these times have been where ive gone into scum lurk mode, and you failed to respond, yet you continue to push this as meta reasoning. Not only have a played few scum games, but ive never lurked as scum. The only game you could possibly be referring to is WoM, where on the third day I dissapeared for a period of around 24hrs, which I explained in that game I was legitimately not around for, I was not at home, and not in a position to be posting on my phone, did that cost me the game? Probably, but you conveniently forgot that for the first two days of that game, it was my trains and my pushes that were lynched. A scum flying under the radar would not have driven two succesful mislynches in the opening of the game. So now reflecting on what has happened this game; What I did at the start of the game was courtesy, I was on for brief periods of time where I was able to read a 1/2 page, or sometimes a full page before leaving again, Instead of just letting my name pop up in the 'on this thread feed', I wanted my fellow players to know that I was indeed reading, and would be posting when possible, instead of not giving a fuck about the game and going lurker mode. Everyone else understood that, except you, because youre attempting to build a flimsy fucking (false) meta case against me.
Which brings me back to calixs point on you not having a vote, which is the scummiest thing thats pinging me so far. If you in any way believed I was scum based on my oh so obvious and totally legit meta, then you wouldve dropped a vote on me, but no, you havent, because you dont want to be flip flopping votes around this whole day looking like you just want to get a lynch off, and you dont want to be analysed if you avoid putting a lynch on a teammate, instead youre setting up these shitty points so that after a train already builds on me (or anyone else you misrepped), you can jump onto it at any time and claim 'oh well i was already scum reading them earlier, remember? so its cool that im here now, not sus at all' and get away with a mislynch. That right there is some scummy shit, and im now going to go back and determine if youre a better lynch candidate than NU.
Also welcome Spruance, and if NU and SP could stop tunneling on eachother, that'd be great.
Monopoly of the Iced variety
And your current thoughts on the NU/ SP thing are?
I'm assuming you're going to get to that though.
Which train of thought do you refer to again?You need to stop with the misrep. Not only did you ignore the post that i @mentioned you in initially refuting your point, but you then proceeded to ignore me all together until calix had to bring up your train of thought twice before you realised you needed to make a reply.
I think you lurked as scum in PM 2.0. That's just a technical point though as Unknown hasn't read that game.I also questioned you the first time as to what all these times have been where ive gone into scum lurk mode, and you failed to respond, yet you continue to push this as meta reasoning. Not only have a played few scum games, but ive never lurked as scum.
Unknown's point is indeed shitty and has no bearing on your alignment, nor has he provided a solid explanation for why he found your check-in posts scummy. I find your touchy response to be more interesting, however. Instead of shrugging it off, you went out of your way to defend yourself against this flimsy-ass accusation.What I did at the start of the game was courtesy, I was on for brief periods of time where I was able to read a 1/2 page, or sometimes a full page before leaving again, Instead of just letting my name pop up in the 'on this thread feed', I wanted my fellow players to know that I was indeed reading, and would be posting when possible, instead of not giving a fuck about the game and going lurker mode. Everyone else understood that, except you, because youre attempting to build a flimsy fucking (false) meta case against me.
In general, you come across as defensive in your response. I wouldn't consider it a scum tell taken as it is but as an emotional response it's something I wouldn't expect from you.
Question. If Unknown's lack of a vote is the scummiest thing he's done, why didn't you mention it yourself earlier? Unless you are saying that I brought it to your attention, that part didn't make much sense to me.
I will, im currently following another thought atm that im posting soon.
your posts where you had to repeatedly ask how it was AI on mine and TDLs post, and then just mine.
I had shrugged it off until he continued to attempt to paint me as scum based on those points, and I could see him coming back to jump on a train on me by citing his continued bs here, so I wanted it stamped out for good. Slight emotion because dealing with blatant stupidity hurts.
It wasnt initially scummy to me until he continued to push the agenda, at which point you called out his lack of vote. This was going down in the wee hours of the morning for me, so I was asleep.
Monopoly of the Iced variety
Fair enough.
Ha.
@MattZed @deathworlds Is it possible to re-post the comment SP made in the sign up thread? I would like to reply to it.
Being obstructive with votes in a game where VCA is one of the few tools that town has = anti-town at the very least. Typically suggests that you have no avenues to pursue; something which doesn't apply with Unknown. In that sense, his scum-read on you comes across as insincere because he is unwilling, for whatever reason, to back this up with a vote.
I don't town-read either of you so I expect your in-depth interactions with each other to be revealing.
So being around you 24/7 must be like living in Hell, eh? ;)
Okay I'm going to actually read the chat and find the posts but I'm pretty sure you said you couldn't find a compelling scum narrative for him and whatnot so want to see if this is consistent or not.