S-FM 313: Mushroom Kingdom Madness II

[Gyrlander]

@Bruno @FrostByte this is the way

I agree

[Gyrlander]

Also @Marshmallow Marshall 's post screwed the page. Thank you.

[bakermir]

Also @Marshmallow Marshall 's post screwed the page. Thank you.

when MM is pissed, the forum breaks

[Gyrlander]

ceko flip clears Martin/FB slots.

I am spewed town here as much as bruno.

if bruno didn't bus zoneQQ then they are fine mostly town here.


frostbyte could be LAMIST here, I actually had a lot of thoughts on this after ceko flip.

gyrlander can't go on without voting for days. it would be good to see some moves from them soon.


renegade taking initiative is good. problem is, they could be wolf here.

bahkieh was the first one to post no feedback, this is good in my books. i had no feedback either entire game.


nothing from whysper. in no community you can go on for days with less than 10 posts so this slot is starting to worry me. ISO is shit too. it might be community meta difference here with them but i expect more contribution.


mm is a renowned player but handed us 0 scum so far, even defended both zoneQQ and ceko. if MM can't find scum but I find scum here then this should be alarming to all.


as for mike; read #2196


I am not voting anyone until these issues are resolved.

bruh I voted Bakhieh. Although I knew he wasn't gonna be lynched.

[BananaCucho]

Did you guys have a good night

[Gyrlander]

I'm having some issues discerning which players are alive due to the nicknames HUM

[bakermir]

Did you guys have a good night

it was fine. halloween is special for me every year.


how was yours banana?

[Whysper]

No we need to kill baker today not keep derailing it off him.

If Mike fails to reply to those questions or to say WHY THE HELL BAKER WOULD BE SCUM, I riot
and probably vote him, too

I've been trying to look back at posts from Mike for his reasoning to suspect Baker but can't find much. I just found something about Baker trying to self-prez, but that's it.

Baker has been posting a lot and attempting to solve, so I've been town leaning him.

I'll probably end up voting Mike as well unless he explains more.

[Bahkieh]

I'm having some issues discerning which players are alive due to the nicknames HUM

It's pretty simple. Which one do you need to know?

[Whysper]

Nevermind, I need to take into account too many posibilities making my decision just a random one. Personally, between all the possible lynches that I think can happen today I'd go with Bakhieh. My read on him is inexistent and I have him as a random Lurker.

bruh I voted Bakhieh. Although I knew he wasn't gonna be lynched.

Did you have any other scum reads at all? It seems weird to just throw a vote on the lurker, especially when you know no one else is voting for him.

[Whysper]

It's pretty simple. Which one do you need to know?

Originally I wasn't sure about "steve the pirate" and "Fred". But I figured out steve was you from your pfp. And so I assume Fred is Mike.

[Bahkieh]

Originally I wasn't sure about "steve the pirate" and "Fred". But I figured out steve was you from your pfp. And so I assume Fred is Mike.

Fred was also the only one I didn't understand but by process of elimination that's what I got too

[bakermir]

fred = mike


it is a reference to this game

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-(15p)/page109

[bakermir]

there are two questions we need to answer:



1. Did anyone else got doused so far? Please don't hide this information

2. @Firebringer did you get roleblocked again?

[bakermir]

so far only Mike reported being doused and this is the only reason why I haven't rushed voting them. Today is the epicenter of this game and we need to figure this out without a ML happening

[Bahkieh]

I expect them to continue roleblocking him to limit ways we can get concrete evidence.

[Mike]

If Mike fails to reply to those questions or to say WHY THE HELL BAKER WOULD BE SCUM, I riot
and probably vote him, too

Dude you are not my lock town day 1 reads are hard to go on. I also town read baker day one and Kenny was telling me no he is scum.

The fact you are saying this trash makes me think you might be his partner.
I am not makeing up being doused. So now you are saying there is no arsonist and I made it up .

Why the fuck would I make that up when there was NO pressure on me???? WHY explaine that???? Why would I bring more heat on myself?? Are you the one who doused me and trying to discredit it so people don’t hunt the arsonist?????? Is the fact there was not pressure on you why you did not burn me last night???? Answer those a questions MM

[Mike]

his entire readlist is either TMI or just scumpaint without basis. why are you taking Mike serious after yesterday's flip?

You claimed me and ceko where scum team becuse we both read you scum. Now when ceko flips neutral that still makes me scum???? What the fuck???

Baker you tryed hard to derail the lynch I was helping push on zero... he fliped mafia GF role. Then your reactions to my push on you day 2 was awful. Then you claim PR with no info to help us Day 4 still not claiming a roel becuse you would be outed as all roles are UNIQUE. Just PR. Dude you are as scummy as it gets.

Also you never went over becise your mafia partners did not vote you. Notice how quickly Ceko went over no partners to help him. Yes he was town but he was. Trying to give town reads.

[Mike]

ceko flip clears Martin/FB slots.

I am spewed town here as much as bruno.

if bruno didn't bus zoneQQ then they are fine mostly town here.


frostbyte could be LAMIST here, I actually had a lot of thoughts on this after ceko flip.

gyrlander can't go on without voting for days. it would be good to see some moves from them soon.


renegade taking initiative is good. problem is, they could be wolf here.

bahkieh was the first one to post no feedback, this is good in my books. i had no feedback either entire game.


nothing from whysper. in no community you can go on for days with less than 10 posts so this slot is starting to worry me. ISO is shit too. it might be community meta difference here with them but i expect more contribution.


mm is a renowned player but handed us 0 scum so far, even defended both zoneQQ and ceko. if MM can't find scum but I find scum here then this should be alarming to all.


as for mike; read #2196


I am not voting anyone until these issues are resolved.

Please explaine in what fantasy world you are spewed town????? You are spewed Scum...

You have done nothing pro town this game on claim a bogus PR that is fake as shit!!!!

[Mike]

Now, I missed Mike's doused claim, and it appears he was doused D2? Why wouldn't he make a ruckus about it? Instead most of us didn't know. I'm suspicious he might be the Insane Wario trying to clear himself through claiming he has been doused.

I'd consider lynching him if no one else claims having been doused (I haven't).

Omfg reread the day. I said it several times. People not reading then claiming oh know what fuck it vote my cc ass off give mafia the win this town is full of retards they want to belive mafia fucking outed mafia... I hand them a mafia lynch baker and they are to stupid to follow it. Yes you are are fucking restarted notice the graveyard all people who backed me. Who where seeing what I had been saying. Get me out of this game. Vote me then when you see. My flip as toad fucking vote baker just promise me when you lynch me KILL BAKER he is MAFIA

@BanananAchocho is suiciding alowed?

[Mike]

I've been trying to look back at posts from Mike for his reasoning to suspect Baker but can't find much. I just found something about Baker trying to self-prez, but that's it.

Baker has been posting a lot and attempting to solve, so I've been town leaning him.

I'll probably end up voting Mike as well unless he explains more.

Read end of day 1 please then read thru the start of day 2 then tell me if you have a town lean on him.

If you want to vote me then please a vote don’t just claim it. I am ok with dieing here when town losses it will not be on me and post game I will be told you dump asses handed the town win on a player and you all ducked it up.

[Mike]

there are two questions we need to answer:



1. Did anyone else got doused so far? Please don't hide this information

2. @Firebringer did you get roleblocked again?

Martian prob did. I know now you all going to say I lied and faked it

[Mike]

so far only Mike reported being doused and this is the only reason why I haven't rushed voting them. Today is the epicenter of this game and we need to figure this out without a ML happening

Well if we vote you we will not have a ML.

[Mike]

Look at facts please people.
Fact 1 day 1 DM claimed Toad
Fact 2 day 2 DM claimed his roel was changed to PR claiming he can fix firm at night. Meaning a someone changed role for that to happen.
Fact 3 night 2 DM was killed. I was doused. I outed to confirm That to show Martian was real I defended Martian and DM day 3 WTF would I do that day 3 baker kept scum painting them both.
This means wario prob rng his shot night 1 to become arso.
Fact 4 EOD Baker did try hard to stop us from lynching Zone.

These are all facts we know about wtf is people ignoring these facts????

[Mike]

People this is why I am getting sick of playing FM games because people are not reading them. They alow mafia to tell lies and change the facts becuse people are to laszy to read the game. Oh wow 4 pages I am not going to read that. Like someone saying I claimed doused day 2 that is a fucking lie. I claimed day 3 over and over I claimed it. No I did not scream it but I also posted how that would make it more than likely Martian was not evil daisy. How fire was prob real and to stop scum painting them how baker then kept scum paining them both.

Fucking read the game stop just going what lies mafia feed you!!!

[bakermir]

Martian prob did. I know now you all going to say I lied and faked it

no one thinks that, stop feeling so entitled to shit in this game.

you are calling me scum based on EoD1 in which I believed you to be TPR so I bussed you TvT to attract scum kill on myself and you went with this.


I already telegraphed I would be voting Zone before CFD happened. I had mostly scumread on him due to him QQ but I was not sure till the last minute. WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PURPOSE IN THIS GAME?

[Mike]

no one thinks that, stop feeling so entitled to shit in this game.

you are calling me scum based on EoD1 in which I believed you to be TPR so I bussed you TvT to attract scum kill on myself and you went with this.


I already telegraphed I would be voting Zone before CFD happened. I had mostly scumread on him due to him QQ but I was not sure till the last minute. WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PURPOSE IN THIS GAME?

That is an out and out right lie you tryed to move the lynch from Zone onto me. This is an out and out right Lie baker you are outed scum. Wow town has to be full of idiots if they belive this crap you are shoveling.

They need to reread day 1. Also I am basing it on your reactions day 2 major scum points there. Even Kenny scum read you and died night 1.

Town please wake up and read the game for your selfs.

[Mike]

Arson please if baker is not lynched today please please burn me tonight. I am begging you. Becuse only way town will wake up is to see eather me or baker flip.


Mafia will not kill me becise it would put Baker as mafia.

[bakermir]

That is an out and out right lie you tryed to move the lynch from Zone onto me. This is an out and out right Lie baker you are outed scum. Wow town has to be full of idiots if they belive this crap you are shoveling.

They need to reread day 1. Also I am basing it on your reactions day 2 major scum points there. Even Kenny scum read you and died night 1.

Town please wake up and read the game for your selfs.

No it isn't a lie, you are so obnoxious when your ego is on the line, oh look the noob baker is more credible than me BOOHOOO @BaBnana can I haz suicide??

play the game or shut up. people don't want to read another 10 pages of you calling me mafia here, you already made your case now if you don't have anything else to say on gamestate or any other slot here then get the hell out of here so we can solve this without getting derailed further

[bakermir]

@Mike

show where Kenny scumreads me??

[bakermir]

@Mike

who is arsonist? who are koopas? who is survivor?


how the fuck were you so sure Martin was toad before ceko flip??


Why didn't you vote ceko earlier with MM?


dude you didn't even listen to others about getting doused but calling martin doused like what the fuck do you know???

[bakermir]

@Mike

what do you think about Rene's vote on Gyrlander and @ at frost/bruno?????


What do you think about Gyr/MM voting bahkieh?

where is your read progression?


Kenny's LW states Martin/Gyr scum, Martin's LW states you are scum.

How are you so sure last wills are fake? koopas can only rb and kill or do another action and kill. they can't both corrupt lw and rb unless they rolled a 4th koopa from hidden any

like if you gonna TMI this much then at least explain your logic and read progression here

[Mike]

baker what the fuck do you know now

zone flip value = 0


you or martin are better options for flip value. ceko too.


or vote Mike the outed 3P

On what basis? Why the fuck did you wait till now to start talking? EoD is 10 minutes. We have pretty good association tells on zone with gyro and martin. The guy has been acting scummy and did nothing to tell the town. We'd literally have this same situation every other day too if he's not flipping over now

yea zone is equally annoying as bruno

neither have flip value



GREAT SCUM THEATRE



when I flip tonight get the people who pushed for this lynch

Get zone to flip first. We'll have exactly this same situation tomorrow again if you don't

Nah bake super scummy

Dude, No one hunted you are just brodcasting you are Mario. I am like dude even a Blind Mafia can tell what you are claiming. So Protection on Baker tonight. Calll me scum for outing you but you outed yourself. at lest we can ask for any porotetive rolls on you at least.

When you RNG PR stop acting scummy and stop outing your role I mean for real man. In sprits I did not care becuse I was scum but this game I am a bit anoyed

You all do the math.

[Mike]

baker what the fuck do you know now

zone flip value = 0


you or martin are better options for flip value. ceko too.


or vote Mike the outed 3P

On what basis? Why the fuck did you wait till now to start talking? EoD is 10 minutes. We have pretty good association tells on zone with gyro and martin. The guy has been acting scummy and did nothing to tell the town. We'd literally have this same situation every other day too if he's not flipping over now

yea zone is equally annoying as bruno

neither have flip value



GREAT SCUM THEATRE



when I flip tonight get the people who pushed for this lynch

Get zone to flip first. We'll have exactly this same situation tomorrow again if you don't

Nah bake super scummy

Dude, No one hunted you are just brodcasting you are Mario. I am like dude even a Blind Mafia can tell what you are claiming. So Protection on Baker tonight. Calll me scum for outing you but you outed yourself. at lest we can ask for any porotetive rolls on you at least.

When you RNG PR stop acting scummy and stop outing your role I mean for real man. In sprits I did not care becuse I was scum but this game I am a bit anoyed

@Mike

what do you think about Rene's vote on Gyrlander and @ at frost/bruno?????


What do you think about Gyr/MM voting bahkieh?

where is your read progression?


Kenny's LW states Martin/Gyr scum, Martin's LW states you are scum.

How are you so sure last wills are fake? koopas can only rb and kill or do another action and kill. they can't both corrupt lw and rb unless they rolled a 4th koopa from hidden any

like if you gonna TMI this much then at least explain your logic and read progression here

Martins LW is old. Notice he had DM town PR in his reads as scum. So don’t give me this crap.

Also answer me this baker? Why the fuck would I a scum come out and hard push you???? Why if you where not scum and you flip town that would so outmyself. So explaine why Day ducking 2 would I as scum want to lynch you? How is that going to help my win con I would just pocket you.

Also you claiming I have TMI on Martin well let’s look at this if I was Mafia how the fuck would I have info TMI that Martian was town not Neutral?? So mafia team get info on who is town and who is neutral????

The only 2 posible roles Martian could be from logic was neutral or town with fires green check and fire was never CC as Marieo. And I knew I was doused. Meaning there was no wario to kill him. So please explaine how I would have TMI. Als I you tryed to get town to belive I was mafia team with Ceko ceko fliped neutral so who is my ducking partner now???baker you are so outed. By logic not I think.

[Mike]

Now I have church so I will not be on so don’t try to claim I ran scared. Dude I got you and you know it.

[Renegade]

I believe Bruno was right about Gyrlander.

He was right about Zone, but wrong about me. 2/3 is pretty good.

[FrostByte]

If Mike fails to reply to those questions or to say WHY THE HELL BAKER WOULD BE SCUM, I riot
and probably vote him, too

He was actually a little subtle about being doused but he definitely did say it. And then I clarified to Bake. If you didn't know he was claiming doused then you're not reading thoroughly enough.

Or you're scum looking for low hanging fruit with which to confuse town.

[FrostByte]

Bake is trying soooo hard to derail lynch on them.

Don't think I've forgotten about your scumminess, bake. Ceko was an easier lynch yesterday and he was actively lying and spreading misinfo so he was more of a priority.

You're being more subtle about your bullshit but I see it.

Bake needs to go today and MM after.

MM is too intelligent and too good at FM to keep playing this "derr I didn't read good" card. He's scumpainting based on bullshit and subtlely trying to spread misinformation. He just used that excuse one too many times.

-vote Bakermir

[FrostByte]

Ceko's fatal mistake was going too hard after me lmao that's why he got spammed into the dirt and didn't have a response.

No hard feelings, Ceko.

[FrostByte]

I believe Bruno was right about Gyrlander.

He was right about Zone, but wrong about me. 2/3 is pretty good.

Maybe Gyrl is scum but he's laying low and not having much of an impact so he's not a priority. We can clean him up after we get some of the more active trash out of the way.

[FrostByte]

@Mike

who is arsonist? who are koopas? who is survivor?


how the fuck were you so sure Martin was toad before ceko flip??


Why didn't you vote ceko earlier with MM?


dude you didn't even listen to others about getting doused but calling martin doused like what the fuck do you know???

@Mike

what do you think about Rene's vote on Gyrlander and @ at frost/bruno?????


What do you think about Gyr/MM voting bahkieh?

where is your read progression?


Kenny's LW states Martin/Gyr scum, Martin's LW states you are scum.

How are you so sure last wills are fake? koopas can only rb and kill or do another action and kill. they can't both corrupt lw and rb unless they rolled a 4th koopa from hidden any

like if you gonna TMI this much then at least explain your logic and read progression here

You're trying to get Mike all flustered lmfao

I applaud the effort but this is all word salad trash. Most of this shit is so irrelevant.

[bakermir]

Martins LW is old. Notice he had DM town PR in his reads as scum. So don’t give me this crap.

Also answer me this baker? Why the fuck would I a scum come out and hard push you???? Why if you where not scum and you flip town that would so outmyself. So explaine why Day ducking 2 would I as scum want to lynch you? How is that going to help my win con I would just pocket you.

Also you claiming I have TMI on Martin well let’s look at this if I was Mafia how the fuck would I have info TMI that Martian was town not Neutral?? So mafia team get info on who is town and who is neutral????

The only 2 posible roles Martian could be from logic was neutral or town with fires green check and fire was never CC as Marieo. And I knew I was doused. Meaning there was no wario to kill him. So please explaine how I would have TMI. Als I you tryed to get town to belive I was mafia team with Ceko ceko fliped neutral so who is my ducking partner now???baker you are so outed. By logic not I think.

ok where exactly Kenny is scumreading me from these quotes? HMMM???


I wasn't around for the most of that time and when I arrived zone was already gettin yeeted, why would you think scum!baker would go and behave in such way for a slot thats gonna get eliminated. I give a rats ass about my scum mates if I ever be scum, do you think I would be out here with idiots confidence and get myself in this situation?


Like you put frostbyte's comment there which has nothing to do with Kenny either lmao


I panicked there with your alignment and your tpr hunt and thats the reaction you get. Next time don't tpr hunt or paint targets on people if you rolled VT dude.



Because it doesn't matter if I get eliminated or not, the more flips we have the pool gets smaller. You literally don't give a fuck about who flips and that's fine usually NAI from you but you could at least try this game. If you weren't so obnoxious and voted ceko instead on D2 then we would have progressed further.

I personally didn't town clear neither Martin or FB on d2 or d3 because they weren't confirmed mechanically. You on the other hand did claim Martin/FB 100% town and accused me for pushing a ML on martin which is again false. YOu turn a blind eye to everything happening in this game and then put the blame on me. If you are not scum this game then I have no more words dude, just stop this nonsensical crap you have on me about EoD1.

You never claimed doused until d3 and you claimed Martin/FB town on d2 after claims. You were also sure on DM being town too when people had doubts on their claim. If you know every shit in this game then thats very well TMI coming from you




I never hard claimed you two are partners, I only called you both scum because of the mindless scumpainting and push coming from both of you and people refusing to acknowledge my point on Ceko's case where I questioned why CEKO is getting TR'd by almost everyone in this game while ceko doing non-town plays the whole time, wasn't that fuckin suspicious to any of you??

[bakermir]

Bake is trying soooo hard to derail lynch on them.

Don't think I've forgotten about your scumminess, bake. Ceko was an easier lynch yesterday and he was actively lying and spreading misinfo so he was more of a priority.

You're being more subtle about your bullshit but I see it.

Bake needs to go today and MM after.

MM is too intelligent and too good at FM to keep playing this "derr I didn't read good" card. He's scumpainting based on bullshit and subtlely trying to spread misinformation. He just used that excuse one too many times.

-vote Bakermir

bring it on

[bakermir]

the moment I publicly mention a possiblity of frostbyte being scum here based on LAMIST posts and being a bystander, i get their vote.

I am on the right track here.

[Firebringer]

hello, i got roleblocked again.

scum keep giving no info kills.

[Mike]

Bake is trying soooo hard to derail lynch on them.

Don't think I've forgotten about your scumminess, bake. Ceko was an easier lynch yesterday and he was actively lying and spreading misinfo so he was more of a priority.

You're being more subtle about your bullshit but I see it.

Bake needs to go today and MM after.

MM is too intelligent and too good at FM to keep playing this "derr I didn't read good" card. He's scumpainting based on bullshit and subtlely trying to spread misinformation. He just used that excuse one too many times.

-vote Bakermir

I am never lynching frost.

[Firebringer]

W H Y

What's up with people not explaining their votes??


Also:

- Fuck majority mushrooms, @Voss is RIGHT
- Ceko played like town lynching him was bad
- If Ceko flipped as standard Toadstool, then someone else needs to have changed role
- Why is this thing still alive and why are people still pushing baker

-vote Bahkieh

I kind of feel this vote. But at same time i wonder why.

[Firebringer]

the moment I publicly mention a possiblity of frostbyte being scum here based on LAMIST posts and being a bystander, i get their vote.

I am on the right track here.

it aint frost and mike.

if its one its mike doing the "protect the townie" thing.

Anyways..

I am not certain who to vote maybe i should parse my read list quick

[Firebringer]

Bake is trying soooo hard to derail lynch on them.

Don't think I've forgotten about your scumminess, bake. Ceko was an easier lynch yesterday and he was actively lying and spreading misinfo so he was more of a priority.

You're being more subtle about your bullshit but I see it.

Bake needs to go today and MM after.

MM is too intelligent and too good at FM to keep playing this "derr I didn't read good" card. He's scumpainting based on bullshit and subtlely trying to spread misinformation. He just used that excuse one too many times.

-vote Bakermir

Random thought:
What if its MM and Mike

[Mike]

ok where exactly Kenny is scumreading me from these quotes? HMMM???


I wasn't around for the most of that time and when I arrived zone was already gettin yeeted, why would you think scum!baker would go and behave in such way for a slot thats gonna get eliminated. I give a rats ass about my scum mates if I ever be scum, do you think I would be out here with idiots confidence and get myself in this situation?


Like you put frostbyte's comment there which has nothing to do with Kenny either lmao


I panicked there with your alignment and your tpr hunt and thats the reaction you get. Next time don't tpr hunt or paint targets on people if you rolled VT dude.



Because it doesn't matter if I get eliminated or not, the more flips we have the pool gets smaller. You literally don't give a fuck about who flips and that's fine usually NAI from you but you could at least try this game. If you weren't so obnoxious and voted ceko instead on D2 then we would have progressed further.

I personally didn't town clear neither Martin or FB on d2 or d3 because they weren't confirmed mechanically. You on the other hand did claim Martin/FB 100% town and accused me for pushing a ML on martin which is again false. YOu turn a blind eye to everything happening in this game and then put the blame on me. If you are not scum this game then I have no more words dude, just stop this nonsensical crap you have on me about EoD1.

You never claimed doused until d3 and you claimed Martin/FB town on d2 after claims. You were also sure on DM being town too when people had doubts on their claim. If you know every shit in this game then thats very well TMI coming from you




I never hard claimed you two are partners, I only called you both scum because of the mindless scumpainting and push coming from both of you and people refusing to acknowledge my point on Ceko's case where I questioned why CEKO is getting TR'd by almost everyone in this game while ceko doing non-town plays the whole time, wasn't that fuckin suspicious to any of you??

Well duh I was doused NIGHT 2 Not night 1 I WAS DOUSED NIGHT 2. How can I claim doused brfore Day 3 ?????? please explaine that HOW IF I AM DOUSED NIGHT 2 With my Day 3 feedback from night 2. Last night I received NO feedback. Becuse I was not doused last night. And since I am Toad. If nothing happens to me I dont get feedback.

LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR

NIGHT 1 NO FEEDBACK I AM TOAD.
NIGHT 2 Feedback "You were doused in an oily substance last night"
NIGHT 3 NO FEEDBACK I AM TOAD.

SO DUH I never claimed I was doused I untill D3.

Facts Day 1 DM claimed TOAD
Day 2 DM claimed his role changed meaning someone role changed Night 1. ( Warieo Shot and Missed making him Insane Wario) So no Evil Dasy.
Day 3 I was Doused. This is how I knew 100% Fire and Martian where cleared. NO ONE CC Fire. Fire had a Green check on Martian.

THIS IS CALLLED LOGIC NOT TMI BAKER!!!!!!!!!!