S-FM 327 : Last Hope

[theoneceko]

i really hope pqrnhack's vote on me is troll.

so many scum-team possibilities rn...

[Varcron]

-vote theoneseko

You look really scummy for pushing someone other than Yuesford today

[theoneceko]

Village doesn't win by acting solo and doing selfish plays.
They win by finding each other and sharing information with each other.
Which isn't possible if the assumption that village tells the truth isn't correct.

no one cares about ur fucking meta here. so stop shitting on our site

[PQRnHack]

And I hope you are scum and not a villager trolling

[Oberon]

If blink got psychic'd last night then Magus was not RBed

Your logic is flawed


That's also assuming blink isn't lying

blink is scum, I don't trust anything he says

[PQRnHack]

You look really scummy for pushing someone other than Yuesford today

i'm wearing my COVID mask, you dont know what I look like ;)

[Varcron]

-vote Yuesford

[Varcron]

blink is scum, I don't trust anything he says

Here's the problem Oberon

If he is legit Paladin and he was levelled up to the Glorious master by Magus throwing him into himself, then we have to wait until at least tomorrow to see if that is legitimate.

He isn't a safe lynch until that point, but even then if Shadows have a roleblocking role then we mislynch anyways.

Yuesford is the safer lynch for now.

[CRichardForumLies]

blink is scum, I don't trust anything he says

Blink is outed scum if Yues is shadow for sure.
If Yues flips Darkness, then we turbo eliminate blink out of the game the next day.

[Varcron]

Here's the problem Oberon

If he is legit Paladin and he was levelled up to the Glorious master by Magus throwing him into himself, then we have to wait until at least tomorrow to see if that is legitimate.

He isn't a safe lynch until that point, but even then if Shadows have a roleblocking role then we mislynch anyways.

Yuesford is the safer lynch for now.

I also do not see a world where #2/Richard/LagAttack are scum together, and the pushes against his lynch today signals that scum does not want him lynched.

[CRichardForumLies]

no one cares about ur fucking meta here. so stop shitting on our site

Good luck retaining players if this nonsense is still ongoing.
Cheers I guess.

[Varcron]

Blink is outed scum if Yues is shadow for sure.
If Yues flips Darkness, then we turbo eliminate blink out of the game the next day.

See? This is why you are town in my eyes.

[Varcron]

Honestly if there is anyone whose play I despise right now, it's Oberon.
I absolutely hate it when people lie as village.
Don't ask me to come back for another game on this site.
I've got better things to do than being manipulated by trolls.
Seems Oberon is an outed troll at this point.

He could also be Templar

In which case that gives him the ability to do that sadly.

[theoneceko]

He could also be Templar

In which case that gives him the ability to do that sadly.

frinckles did make a case for that...

[Oberon]

And I hope you are scum and not a villager trolling

directed at ceko I assume?

[PQRnHack]

Ceko is not Magus and pushing to off Yues so early in the day is scummy AF, sounds like hoping to finish him before AFKs show up.

[theoneceko]

seeing that wrath and pqrn voted me, they're basically both outed scum. they're leveraging suspicion of my magus claim to distract from yuesford's lynch.

pqrnhack attacking and lynching ozy, attacking and voting blink, then attacking and voting ME tells me all i need to know. i will fireball oberon and wrath tonight, who are both pr claims, even though there's only room for one random hero. hopefully, scum don't pull off shenanigans with slime or horror. it is what it is.

i hope everyone realizes that yuesford is still the lynch for today. based on yues's flip, go after blink then consider lynching pqrn.

[theoneceko]

Ceko is not Magus and pushing to off Yues so early in the day is scummy AF, sounds like hoping to finish him before AFKs show up.

mirroring wrath lmao. sorry, but ur scum pushes suck
ok boomer

[Lumi]

Ceko is not Magus and pushing to off Yues so early in the day is scummy AF, sounds like hoping to finish him before AFKs show up.

Whether or not ceko is magus does not matter. Yues is the lynch today - what possible role could he be other than scum?

[PQRnHack]

Whether or not ceko is magus does not matter. Yues is the lynch today - what possible role could he be other than scum?

Magus

[theoneceko]

Whether or not ceko is magus does not matter. Yues is the lynch today - what possible role could he be other than scum?

blink said yues could be a wizard. it explains his vote on you. he obviously doesn't trust oberon anymore and thinks wrath is a templar.

[Varcron]

mirroring wrath lmao. sorry, but ur scum pushes suck
ok boomer

You're level of play isn't good

Anyone that disagrees with you you push as scum, that isn't smart towny play

Do they have motive? Why pressure that person? That's the question you need to ask rather than go OMG HE ISN'T DOING WHAT I WANT SCUM SCUM SCUM

[Oberon]

@PQRnHack

@PQRnHack would still like to hear your thoughts on this

[theoneceko]

You're level of play isn't good

Anyone that disagrees with you you push as scum, that isn't smart towny play

Do they have motive? Why pressure that person? That's the question you need to ask rather than go OMG HE ISN'T DOING WHAT I WANT SCUM SCUM SCUM

clearly, my original strategy resulted in me lynching a level 2 hero. i've literally had better results as a tunneling town (aka when i first started playing fm).

i'm merely putting pqrnhack in my PoE.

[PQRnHack]

@Auwt Does a maxed-level character (e.g. LVL-2 village Hero) receive any feedback when being leveled up (uselessly) again by Magus or by Wizard?

[theoneceko]

Magus

how the hell do u think yues is magus and not me?

[theoneceko]

@Auwt Does a maxed-level character (e.g. LVL-2 village Hero) receive any feedback when being leveled up (uselessly) again by Magus or by Wizard?

WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS

[PQRnHack]

@PQRnHack would still like to hear your thoughts on this

As stated in original post: "won't say why"

[Varcron]

how the hell do u think yues is magus and not me?

The better question is why are you debating who Magus is? That only benefits scum at this stage in the game.

[theoneceko]

The better question is why are you debating who Magus is? That only benefits scum at this stage in the game.

okay, ur right. i have both those slots locked as scum anyway

[PQRnHack]

WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS

To learn about mechanics.

BTW it's not possible for Blink to suggest Yues could be Wizard, as then Blink would have known at start of D2 that he got leveled up (per Frinckles info). Did Blink really suggest Yues could be Wizard?

[PQRnHack]

The better question is why are you debating who Magus is? That only benefits scum at this stage in the game.

Evils trying to turbo-lynch Magus before he even shows up to the game D3 seems plausible.

[Oberon]

As stated in original post: "won't say why"

[PQRnHack]

OK I guess Blink maybe thought Yues could be a Wizard who upped a scum!Frinckles impersonator. That theory has been disproven:

I suppose you are referring to a Sticky Impersonator.
No, a Sticky Impersonator could not jump from the night on cooldown to the level 2 version of the town role they would chose to be on the same night.

[theoneceko]

Evils trying to turbo-lynch Magus before he even shows up to the game D3 seems plausible.

yuesford is not a magus unless he was throwing

[PQRnHack]

yuesford is not a magus unless he was throwing

tell me more about throwing

[Oberon]

tell me more about throwing

rofl

[PQRnHack]

double entendre ;)

[Yuesford]

Holy shit. Don't lynch me yet. Wait till I reply. I'll reply a single post after this and you all be the judge afterwards. I'll reply before I sleep.

[PQRnHack]

ALL HAIL PAOPAN

[Lumi]

@Auwt Does a maxed-level character (e.g. LVL-2 village Hero) receive any feedback when being leveled up (uselessly) again by Magus or by Wizard?

I've asked Auwt this already in a PM, he said leveled up people do indeed receive feedback, even if it's redundant and they're max level (eg Darkness, level 2 heroes)
Saying now before Auwt has the time to confirm so you can start moving your thought process forwards, but of course don't take just my word for it, Auwt can confirm.

(deja vu - how many times have you asked a mechanics question which I thought of as well so I asked Auwt directly and then responded to you telling you to confirm with Auwt and not just take my word for it, lol)

[PQRnHack]

I've asked Auwt this already in a PM, he said leveled up people do indeed receive feedback, even if it's redundant and they're max level (eg Darkness, level 2 heroes)
Saying now before Auwt has the time to confirm so you can start moving your thought process forwards, but of course don't take just my word for it, Auwt can confirm.

(deja vu - how many times have you asked a mechanics question which I thought of as well so I asked Auwt directly and then responded to you telling you to confirm with Auwt and not just take my word for it, lol)

Thanks. And indeed

[PQRnHack]

Am I allowed to use out-of-game inferences (not communication)?

[PQRnHack]

Am I allowed to use out-of-game inferences (not communication)?

I should say: am I allowed to DISCLOSE my out-of-game knowledge (not communication)?

[Oberon]

I should say: am I allowed to DISCLOSE my out-of-game knowledge (not communication)?

I think you’re talking about Paopan’s meta, in which case yes.

[Oberon]

Would be best to clear it with Auwt if it ain’t that.

[PQRnHack]

I think you’re talking about Paopan’s meta, in which case yes.

Uhhh how did you come up with "Paopan's meta"? Explain.

[Oberon]

Uhhh how did you come up with "Paopan's meta"? Explain.

You just said ‘HAIL PAOPAN’ and it reminded me of shit ppl said on sc2 today.

It’s my reason for scumreading him. Paopan spams hard when he’s town. He doesn’t when he’s evil.

[PQRnHack]

You just said ‘HAIL PAOPAN’ and it reminded me of shit ppl said on sc2 today.

It’s my reason for scumreading him. Paopan spams hard when he’s town. He doesn’t when he’s evil.

Funny. What's your current SC2 Player name?

[Oberon]

Funny. What's your current SC2 Player name?

Ganelon